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Title: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: ReadySetMillionaire on May 04, 2016, 02:44:47 PM
My fiance and I just moved into our first house last November. We love everything about it (location, school district, etc.), except for our neighbor.

My mom says it's like I'm living in a sitcom where writers are trying to make the worst neighbor imaginable just for everyone else's comic enjoyment. While sometimes it is actually funny, it's becoming incredibly annoying. His presence is oppressive and I need to do *something* about it to keep my sanity.

Let's list some things this guy does on a regular basis:

(1) Rakes snow from his lawn into the street, and then hoses down the snow in the street;

(2) Washes mailbox with a bucket and rag right at dusk, and pretty much peers into other houses for 10 minutes while he pretends to wash this mailbox;

(3) Mows his lawn, then blows it with a leafblower, then weedwacks it (the entire yard, not just the edges);

(4) Mows and fertilizes up to my driveway (a good 10 feet onto my property)...I asked him to stop and he said "I've been doing this since 1978;"

(5) Any time I go outside he comes and talks to me about how much he hates the other neighbors, how things used to be different, etc. All of these conversations do not end unless/until my fiance comes and asks me for help (he talks 95% of the time);

(6) Edges/trims my mailbox;

(7) Puts dirt and the debris from the curb and sweeps it into my yard.


Honestly I could go on forever. Like I said earlier, my fiance and I feel like we need to do something about it. Talking to him and telling him to stop over and over has been fruitless, so I need to do something physically.

The problem with that, though, is that it costs a decent amount of money. Which brings me to MMM.

Option 1--Fence Entire Side of Yard: I could build a fence all the way down his property line. With current zoning laws, I can have a 6' fence all the way to the frontage of my house, then I would need a variance to have a more than 3' fence in the front. I called zoning and they said applying for a variance would be $150 and they obviously can't guarantee this would be granted. My estimated cost for this would be $1,300.

Option 2--Fence Back Yard and Natural Fence Front: Given the above described zoning law, I could just do a "natural fence" in the front yard and have the fence go through the back yard. This would be a little cheaper at $1,100 (the trees I would get are on sale for $20/each this weekend) and I think would actually look a lot better.

But here's the issue: the neighbors behind my evil neighbor put up big pine trees that are about 20 feet off of his property. Evil neighbor went and cut all the branches from about six feet down (to the point I could completely walk under the tree), thus making this natural privacy fence worthless.

Option 3: You tell me. I might not be considering something here. Maybe I can build a wall and make him pay for it?

What would you do?


Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Johnez on May 04, 2016, 02:57:36 PM
A lot of these things don't actually seem like "problems" that really hurt you.  Who cares if he "washes" snow with a hose?  Or washes his mailbox.  I honestly consider the entire list pretty harmless "annoying neighbor" problems that don't actually cause any damage.  I would say give it time, and like many other minor problems it'll just fade into the background as you have more pressing things to worry about.  The neighbor is high up on your list because you just moved in, wait till your work, school, kids, maintenance, etc. take over your thoughts and if the guy is being a douche-then do something about it. 
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Chrissy on May 04, 2016, 03:00:15 PM
Option 1. 
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: VaCPA on May 04, 2016, 03:02:47 PM
So he's an obsessive landscaper. The guy probably is lonely and bored as hell. I know I'm not in your shoes but honestly I don't think much of that stuff would irritate me too much. The fact that he confides in you about how much he dislikes everyone else maybe means he likes you?
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: v8rx7guy on May 04, 2016, 03:06:52 PM
I wouldn't waste my time being annoyed by those kind of things either.  He's probably got a bad case of OCD or some slight mental issues.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Mr. Green on May 04, 2016, 03:07:09 PM
You're really considering spending over $1,000 just to keep the guy from mowing 10 feet of your property? Yikes! Why are you annoyed by how the guy mows his own yard? That seems bizarre. Is he just outside all the time? Does he wash his mailbox all the time? What neighborhood doesn't have a nosy neighbor. If he's lived there since '78 then I assume he's and old man. Maybe he's just trying to get to know his neighbors and his social skills aren't that great. If you were more open to engaging him in conversation and trying to be a friendly neighbor maybe he would be open to not doing something anymore. I don't know if you've tried that.

I don't think I could bring myself to spend four figures just to keep my neighbor from mowing a bit of my yard.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: BarkyardBQ on May 04, 2016, 03:14:29 PM
You're better off trying to understand him and creating a friend vs alienating a neighbor and creating an enemy. He sounds old and lonely and you seem seriously bent on taking it personally. Have you actually had a real conversation with him or are you just starting a war over a classic lack of communication?

But here's the issue: the neighbors behind my evil neighbor put up big pine trees that are about 20 feet off of his property. Evil neighbor went and cut all the branches from about six feet down (to the point I could completely walk under the tree), thus making this natural privacy fence worthless.

Seriously, back to how old is this guy and have any of the neighbors talked to him? If he mows his lawn religiously, and can't bend over, how is he supposed to get a lawn mower under 4ft branches? Did anyone offer to mow the lawn for him?
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: SKL-HOU on May 04, 2016, 03:18:41 PM
1 thru 4: not significant issues.
5: Just turn around and leave
6: what is the big deal?
7: this is the only one that is even an issue I think but even that doesn't make this guy a neighbor from hell.

I think maybe you got annoyed once and now anything he does annoys you. And it sounds like other neighbors told you stories so you are already biased. If this is the extend of the thing he does, then just relax.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: slugline on May 04, 2016, 03:23:14 PM
Honestly, I clicked in expecting to read about someone more threatening than this. You don't have to become best friends, but there's nothing here that would stop me from being polite and friendly when outside. Is there more you've left out? Because your description makes him sound more "eccentric" than "crazy."
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: hops on May 04, 2016, 03:31:11 PM
I have a few elderly neighbors, some lonely and obsessive, others descending into senility, who do things like that. One is now too frail to spend every waking moment landscaping and trapping passersby in conversation. Every time I see him, slumped and speechless in the wheelchair his caregiver sometimes parks in front of his glass door, I feel like a gargantuan asshole for all the occasions I wished he'd go inside.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Fred2004 on May 04, 2016, 03:33:42 PM
option 3 made me laugh...wait to see how The Donald handles that before pursuing this option!

Plant some trees and see what he does to them...$20 a pop sounds like a cheap experiment!
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Frankies Girl on May 04, 2016, 03:35:03 PM
(1) Rakes snow from his lawn into the street, and then hoses down the snow in the street;

(2) Washes mailbox with a bucket and rag right at dusk, and pretty much peers into other houses for 10 minutes while he pretends to wash this mailbox;

(3) Mows his lawn, then blows it with a leafblower, then weedwacks it (the entire yard, not just the edges);

1-3 are silly stuff that lots of neighbors do and are harmless to you. Forget about this stuff. But do close your blinds if you can see in at dusk. ;)



(4) Mows and fertilizes up to my driveway (a good 10 feet onto my property)...I asked him to stop and he said "I've been doing this since 1978;"
Tell him to stop if this activity is doing any damage to your property. Tell him "You do not own this part from this point over, so you need to stop doing any further lawn work in the future. I don't care if you've been doing it since 1878, I am telling you again to stop mowing/treating my yard because I do not like it and it is damaging my property."

(5) Any time I go outside he comes and talks to me about how much he hates the other neighbors, how things used to be different, etc. All of these conversations do not end unless/until my fiance comes and asks me for help (he talks 95% of the time);
Wear earbuds even if you're not listening to music so you can point to them and just wave and walk on by. Or take your phone out with you with a bluetooth headset and point to it and say "un huh" into it a few times so all you have to do is smile and nod as you walk through. Then go about your business. Or simply say "so sorry, don't have time to talk right now" and move away from them even if that means he's talking as you leave.

(6) Edges/trims my mailbox;
Same as #4.

(7) Puts dirt and the debris from the curb and sweeps it into my yard.
Same as #4.


What do your neighbors do about him? Might want to ask them how they handled him? He sounds like he may be an old guy that hasn't many friends and is obsessed with yard work and is doing stuff on your yard because it's not up to his standards and he likes his area to look just so. I'd go talk to the people that live on the other side of him just for giggles to see how they've handled his overactive lawn grooming.

But mostly, I'd just ignore him. If he wants to go crazy trimming and edging his yard and into yours, then again, as long as he hasn't done any damage I'd just try to let the annoyance part go. The only way I'd confront the guy is if 1) he damages anything; or 2) he tries to plant or build anything that is not mutually agreed on, because in many states, land usage can be construed as ceding over that portion of the property (my mom had that happen in her favor with a very old house and a common drive, and my dad's house lost about 2 foot of property along one edge because he didn't protest a neighbor having a driveway laid over the property line).

I had neighbors with small kids that for some reason set up their slip and slide in the space between our houses and set their garbage cans out on my side of the yard which is very obviously mine - instead of in their back yard. They have a yard service that mows the side yard like it is an even 50/50 split, but it's more like 20% is theirs and 80% is mine (fence/property lines are obvious), so that means every 10 days our side yard gets a partial cut and edge. Annoyed the ever-loving crap out of me for the first year.

But you know what? I don't give a rat's ass now. Obviously after 13 years here, the kids are grown up and are no longer using the slip and slide, and nothing they're doing is damaging my usage and/or enjoyment of my own property.

Getting pissy with the neighbors over something that is at most annoying is just a recipe for having a very uncomfortable time for the rest of the time you are neighbors. Let it go unless he's really causing damage or hardship. Honestly, you're still a bright and shiny new homeowner so I think you're letting this guy get under your skin way too much. Chill and realize that you will always have the probability of having a kook or crazy person in your neighborhood and as far as kooks go, yours is pretty lightweight.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: ShoulderThingThatGoesUp on May 04, 2016, 03:47:27 PM
Chill out. None of that is a big deal at all.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Fireball on May 04, 2016, 03:47:53 PM
(7) Puts dirt and the debris from the curb and sweeps it into my yard.

I had a 63yr old neighbor across the street that blew his leaves & grass clippings in my yard for 5-6 years. I finally confronted him about it, to which he denied the grass clippings and said that every leaf in the neighborhood was from my two trees. He was just giving them back. Keep in mind there were literally hundreds of trees in our neighborhood. The story ends with me telling this 63 yr old that he won't be able to do either soon because I'm going to shove his leaf blower up his &$%.  Not my proudest moment. Don't be the guy who threatens bodily harm to a senior citizen.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: marty998 on May 04, 2016, 03:58:42 PM
Meh, I don't think you have it bad at all.... you could have neighbours who*:

1) Are up all night screaming at each other in domestic disputes
2) Are up all night screaming and moaning in a fit of passion so you can't sleep
3) Park on your part of the curb, or leave their boat/trailer in front of your house
4) Build a garden trellis structure and cover it in toxic plants like Jasmine which kills of all the natives in your garden
5) Ignore you when you say hi and try and make friendly conversation

* All of these have happened to me or family at some point

Then there are the real nasty ones who are

- cooking meth
- keeping guns in an unsafe manner
- otherwise engaging in shady behaviour
- rubbish and waste hoarders

etc etc

In the grand scheme of things you've got it easy
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Guava on May 04, 2016, 04:00:03 PM
I have a neighbor that does things like that too. We just call him the goofy neighbor. It took some time, but we figured out he is just a genuinely good and lonely guy that is trying to help out. We started asking him why he did some of his goofy things in the hour long conversations we got trapped in and found out he had pretty logical answers for everything...somehow.

As for fence or shrubs, your best bet might be to ask him his opinion. Tell him you want to add some beauty to your yard. If you work with him, he will be less likely to cut branches.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: frugaliknowit on May 04, 2016, 04:33:10 PM
Your neighbor is a bit obsessive and quirky, but REALLY, I'd take him over someone who does not take care of their place and is a pig.  As for mowing your grass, etc.:  Just let it go!
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Reynolds531 on May 04, 2016, 04:44:59 PM
I would wait until you see him back out of his driveway and drive away.

Then I would mow his entire property.

.....giggles and runs away.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: bobechs on May 04, 2016, 04:47:04 PM
This guy is no doubt a major rectal spasm for you, but consider that he has neighbor problems too.

Viz, he has you for a neighbor.  So ease up.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Dezrah on May 04, 2016, 04:54:57 PM
Fwiw, I get it. I understand you're listing some of these details not even because they affect you but because they convey that the guy is generally weird and unsettling.

Feeling uncomfortable about going outside your house for fear of being accosted by a windbag is upsetting and is destined to sour your love for your house.

My FIL is also a windbag. He doesn't hear a word anyone has to say and will just talk at you for hours if you let him. I would first suggest you up your own personal conversation skills so that you are better able to interject and let yourself talk or excuse yourself. It will feel like you're being rude but I promise there is no other way; he probably grew up in a household/culture where this was normal. Once you get the rhythm right, you will no longer dread seeing him and he will probably still like you personally (which is good since you never want to be enemies with your neighbors).

Beyond that, close your blinds at night. I left my husband's family phone plan because same FiL would check my call log. Boundaries, they're nice.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Neustache on May 04, 2016, 04:56:50 PM
This guy maybe think he is doing you a favor, but for people like us, it feels like he's violating what should be well-known boundaries (our property lines). 

Go into it assuming the best about him:  quirky neighbor who may think he's helping.

Personally, I'd probably plant a nice hedge of boxwoods along the edge to make a more noticeable boundary, and befriend the guy.  I like boundaries, I like them respected.  I also like to be a friendly neighbor. 
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: iknowiyam on May 04, 2016, 05:09:42 PM
FWIW I live next to a similar guy. We did nothing for a awhile and just put up with his extreme noise pollution, light pollution (crazy flood light for "safety" coming in our back window) and trespassing (both mowing a section of our lawn and sending the chemical guy on a portion of our property to spray), etc.

ADVICE: Be PATIENT. Get to know him a little better. Know your city, county, and/or HOA rules about property and noise control. Know your property line. Take deep breath. Starting a full-out battle could get ugly or expensive. Limit your biggest concerns to ones that actually break rules.

Here is what we did:

(1) Got black-out shades to deal with flood light.

(2) We asked him not to mow part of our lawn (which he did not agree) and left it at that - UNTIL he started interrupting our walks to approach us tell us how our yard looks "like hell" and that we need to cut, weed, etc. He even called the city on us, but we were not actually in violation of any ordinance. Our yard really wasn't bad; he was just annoyed with us. He also dished out a veiled threat towards our business, reminding us how many of our clients attend his church.

(3) Got a property survey, $375. Once he was fully aware of EXACTLY where the property line was he got at least a little bit better. Turns out we own half of every single one of his precious back yard trees...

(4) Actually called his weed treatment service and politely informed them of property line markers and told them to stay off our property. They tried to shift blame to him, but I informed them our neighbor is aware of the property line and that they are to stay off my property. They agreed.

(5) Got friendlier with his polite and sweet wife. That was easy and pleasant. I think this helped a lot.

(6) Got friendlier with his church. We did not go to his church or anything, just made point to say we know their fellow congregation member when we met people who went there - never said anything bad, treated his acquaintance as a pleasant one.

Now he stays entirely off our property and does not complain about our lawn maintenance. It took 1.5 years to get to this point. Take your time. Set boundaries. Carefully pick your battles.

FYI: Legally, depending on your state, ignoring the problem entirely could actually lead to him taking legal possession of some of your land (after many years). Avoiding this was our primary goal.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: NonprofitER on May 04, 2016, 05:12:56 PM
I feel for you. I know a lot of the responses are along the lines of "What's the big deal?", but I also know that typing anecdotes objectively onto a screen is different than actually living them. The interpersonal nuances, the 'creep' factor, etc. are hard for people to actually sense  via reading it on a screen. We had a super senile bachelor neighbor once who kept his front door open at all times during the day, and would stand gaurd/keep watch of the street during about 40% of the day as something of a self-appointed neighborhood watch. It was very off-putting even though it didn't "hurt" us. (Of course, when someone's house got robbed, he was the first person everyone wanted to talk to - since we all assumed he did strange things like keep track of cars, license plate numbers, etc...).

Anyway, I'd probably gradually work towards some privacy fencing or boxwoods. It's not an emergency. If you react too soon, it'll feel reactive financially, and/or give him the idea you hate him - but over time, if you gradually work towards creating boundaries (literal and conversational) he'll probably "get it". 
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Tjat on May 04, 2016, 07:43:19 PM
weak sauce man.

Growing up I had a neighbor that inherited his step-fathers home, left his dangerous dog unleashed and unfed, and had a hobby of revving his car engines multiple hours of the day. One time, he set up a tape recorder, put a brick on his gas pedal, and left for an hour.

Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: justajane on May 04, 2016, 07:57:16 PM
This is pretty tame overall. I'm sure you'll get some stories that will make your situation seem rosy in comparison. I've had a bipolar neighbor who lurked at all hours, waiting to chat when I went out my front door. I've had a prostitute live next door. And I think I've had it pretty easy all things considered. Our last two batches of neighbors mow their lawn about 2-3 times a summer, and that's just the center of the lawn. They leave the perimeter wild, which breeds chiggers and creates a habitat for the snakes. The same house had a broken down truck parked in the middle of the yard...for an entire year.

My friend had a bipolar neighbor who would stand on her lawn and yell profanities and threats at all hours. She would hide food in random places so that it would stink to high heaven and cause maggots. It was deliberate and very aggressive. That shit was crazy, and it's very hard to get someone like that institutionalized.

Seriously, I would describe your neighbor as eccentric at best. I know it's annoying, but it's not insurmountable.

Hell is other people sometimes.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: ReadySetMillionaire on May 04, 2016, 08:19:30 PM
I feel for you. I know a lot of the responses are along the lines of "What's the big deal?", but I also know that typing anecdotes objectively onto a screen is different than actually living them. The interpersonal nuances, the 'creep' factor, etc. are hard for people to actually sense  via reading it on a screen. We had a super senile bachelor neighbor once who kept his front door open at all times during the day, and would stand gaurd/keep watch of the street during about 40% of the day as something of a self-appointed neighborhood watch. It was very off-putting even though it didn't "hurt" us. (Of course, when someone's house got robbed, he was the first person everyone wanted to talk to - since we all assumed he did strange things like keep track of cars, license plate numbers, etc...).

Anyway, I'd probably gradually work towards some privacy fencing or boxwoods. It's not an emergency. If you react too soon, it'll feel reactive financially, and/or give him the idea you hate him - but over time, if you gradually work towards creating boundaries (literal and conversational) he'll probably "get it".


This guy gets it.

I said earlier "I'll go on," and because my neighbor apparently isn't crazy enough based on the above, let's continue.

I know the previous owners (the husband is a priest at a church that I've been to a couple times). Mr. Neighbor would fertilize while their two and three year old kids were outside playing in the driveway  (and parents were outside). The fertilizer would cake the driveway and get all over the kids toys. Mr. Neighbor didn't apologize. Cops were apparently called and everything.

Mr. Neighbor also called the wife's parents and said he thought she was a victim of domestic abuse. Why? Because she was mowing the lawn. That's a man's job according to Mr. Neighbor, and he put the impetus on himself to call her parents and tell them as much.

As for those pine trees I mentioned earlier, they are a good 20 feet off of his property. The other neighbor put up a fence because Mr. Neighbor wouldn't stop cutting his grass, either.

Mr. Neighbor has also brought a lawsuit against the neighbor across the street just last year. The other neighbor was in the middle of treatment for esophageal cancer. The lawsuit was dismissed within two months.

Again, I could go on and on and on. This guy has absolutely no respect for his neighbors or their boundaries.

So I hope I've now sufficiently met my burden of proving how nuts this guy is. This isn't some lonely old guy. He's malicious and I don't want to deal with him.

So I'll ask again, any ideas?
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Blatant on May 04, 2016, 09:09:54 PM
Based solely on what I've read, I'd take him over you. But I probably don't know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: lbmustache on May 04, 2016, 09:57:07 PM
People here are not being helpful. Annoying neighbors are the worst and living next to someone like this would be very annoying.

I would just suck up the $1300 and build the fence. IMO $1300 is a small price to pay for some semblance of sanity/normalcy. Maybe get tinted windows for the home too to keep his snoopy eyes out. Which will also help with heat.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Chrissy on May 04, 2016, 10:19:26 PM

...Mr. Neighbor would fertilize while their two and three year old kids were outside playing in the driveway  (and parents were outside). The fertilizer would cake the driveway and get all over the kids toys. Mr. Neighbor didn't apologize. Cops were apparently called and everything.

Mr. Neighbor also called the wife's parents and said he thought she was a victim of domestic abuse. Why? Because she was mowing the lawn. That's a man's job according to Mr. Neighbor, and he put the impetus on himself to call her parents and tell them as much.

As for those pine trees I mentioned earlier, they are a good 20 feet off of his property. The other neighbor put up a fence because Mr. Neighbor wouldn't stop cutting his grass, either.

Mr. Neighbor has also brought a lawsuit against the neighbor across the street just last year. The other neighbor was in the middle of treatment for esophageal cancer. The lawsuit was dismissed within two months.

...So I'll ask again, any ideas?

Holy shit!  Option 1, option 1, option 1, option 1.  Fence fence fence fence fence fence.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Kaikou on May 05, 2016, 03:03:05 AM
Just build a fence and be done with it. I really don't think outside opinions really matter for this. Kind of seems like you made up your mind already.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: ShoulderThingThatGoesUp on May 05, 2016, 05:27:28 AM
Fence it is, then.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Ann on May 05, 2016, 05:38:48 AM
(1) Rakes snow from his lawn into the street, and then hoses down the snow in the street;
Legitimate question from a poster who only sees one day of snow every two years: doesn't hosing down the snow in the street make the road icier, and therefore more dangerous?  Or does it not matter, because people have already winterized their vehicles?
In Houston, the entire city shuts down if there is even a smidgeon of ice.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: plog on May 05, 2016, 07:15:02 AM
Hosing the snow, could, but most likely doesn't make the road icier.  Water doesn't immediately freeze at 32, so even if its only 25, most of it will go to the sewer.

RSM sounds like the wife comedians make fun of -- she presents her husband with what seems to be a serious problem, the husband presents a matter of fact resolution and assesment of the situation, wife counters with--'I just want you to listen to me and tell me I am right in feeling this way'.

RSM doesn't want our advice, he wants a sounding board.  So, RSM--yes you look pretty, those pants don't make you look fat, Sheryl in Accounting is a total bitch and you should definitely put up that fence for that monster of a neighbor you have.   

 
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: NonprofitER on May 05, 2016, 07:29:55 AM

...Mr. Neighbor would fertilize while their two and three year old kids were outside playing in the driveway  (and parents were outside). The fertilizer would cake the driveway and get all over the kids toys. Mr. Neighbor didn't apologize. Cops were apparently called and everything.

Mr. Neighbor also called the wife's parents and said he thought she was a victim of domestic abuse. Why? Because she was mowing the lawn. That's a man's job according to Mr. Neighbor, and he put the impetus on himself to call her parents and tell them as much.

As for those pine trees I mentioned earlier, they are a good 20 feet off of his property. The other neighbor put up a fence because Mr. Neighbor wouldn't stop cutting his grass, either.

Mr. Neighbor has also brought a lawsuit against the neighbor across the street just last year. The other neighbor was in the middle of treatment for esophageal cancer. The lawsuit was dismissed within two months.

...So I'll ask again, any ideas?

Holy shit!  Option 1, option 1, option 1, option 1.  Fence fence fence fence fence fence.

Yep. This is certifiably crazy.  Fertilizer use is a known contributor to nasty childhood cancers. 
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: VaCPA on May 05, 2016, 07:32:34 AM
(7) Puts dirt and the debris from the curb and sweeps it into my yard.

I had a 63yr old neighbor across the street that blew his leaves & grass clippings in my yard for 5-6 years. I finally confronted him about it, to which he denied the grass clippings and said that every leaf in the neighborhood was from my two trees. He was just giving them back. Keep in mind there were literally hundreds of trees in our neighborhood. The story ends with me telling this 63 yr old that he won't be able to do either soon because I'm going to shove his leaf blower up his &$%.  Not my proudest moment. Don't be the guy who threatens bodily harm to a senior citizen.

Haha, this made me laugh and also I can relate because I've had a few regrettable moments like that in my life. OP, I think the moral is life is short and choose your battles because a lot of the time it's just not worth it. Now we haven't experienced it firsthand, but you asked an anonymous msg board for opinions and I think the consensus is it's not worth making a big deal out of. If you think the fence will improve your sanity and decrease your frustration enough to warrant the cost then by all means do it.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: ReadySetMillionaire on May 05, 2016, 07:34:16 AM
Just build a fence and be done with it. I really don't think outside opinions really matter for this. Kind of seems like you made up your mind already.

Ya, I think it's important that "do nothing" was not one of my options. I've already made my mind up that I want some kind of privacy. I was more looking for creative alternatives that I may not have considered (e.g., this forum had a 150+ post thread on whether to use toilet paper or not...I figured I might get some similarly "out of the box" ideas).
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: hops on May 05, 2016, 07:36:11 AM
Fence it is, then.

Yep. And if you'd posted the truly batshit stuff he's done to other neighbors to begin with, rather than the mildly annoying stuff he's done to you personally, you would've gotten the answers you wanted sooner.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: purple monkey on May 05, 2016, 07:44:48 AM
Option 1.

+1

Yes, I too, have had neighbors from Hades.  I moved 700+ miles away because I had two AWFUL neighbors (parties and bands, etc.)
I could go on and on, but won't hijack.

It will be the best money you have spent and it will hopefully add to the value of your home.

So sorry.

Also, find out when his birthday is between now and the fence. He would probably tell you every event in his life-very lonely dude.
Mail him a birthday card.

I know, sounds counter- intuitive, but would not hurt.

GOOD LUCK!
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: big_owl on May 05, 2016, 07:45:28 AM
Responses in this thread remind me why I don't live in a city and prefer the woods over other people.  It's bad enough to be stuck with an annoying neighbor that you can't effectively do anything about, but then you have a bunch of judgie-judgersons telling you it's all in your head and you're the problem.  To the exurbs....

No real advice OP but I feel your pain.  I like fences, and you can take some solace in that you'll probably outlast him if he's older.

One of my neighbors when they first moved in 12 years ago got a large dog and just let it run all over the place all day and night and basically kept it like a wild animal.  It would shit all over my yard and I would step in piles of it whenever I cut my grass.  I asked them twice if they could please control dog...didn't make any difference.  So eventually one day I flipped out and gathered up about 8 piles of dog crap with a shovel and threw them all on his driveway.  He came over and confronted me about it, I told him I was going to keep doing it and to basically STFU.  It didn't exactly foster a friendship...I think we've talked about 4 times in 12 years, but the dog no longer shits in my yard and I never have to deal with him again.  In fact he's turned out to be a pretty good neighbor - almost invisible to me, like he's not even there. 
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: JZinCO on May 05, 2016, 07:50:41 AM

Let's list some things this guy does on a regular basis:

(1) Rakes snow from his lawn into the street, and then hoses down the snow in the street;

(2) Washes mailbox with a bucket and rag right at dusk, and pretty much peers into other houses for 10 minutes while he pretends to wash this mailbox;

(3) Mows his lawn, then blows it with a leafblower, then weedwacks it (the entire yard, not just the edges);

(4) Mows and fertilizes up to my driveway (a good 10 feet onto my property)...I asked him to stop and he said "I've been doing this since 1978;"

(5) Any time I go outside he comes and talks to me about how much he hates the other neighbors, how things used to be different, etc. All of these conversations do not end unless/until my fiance comes and asks me for help (he talks 95% of the time);

(6) Edges/trims my mailbox;

(7) Puts dirt and the debris from the curb and sweeps it into my yard.
Mr. Neighbor also called the wife's parents and said he thought she was a victim of domestic abuse. Why? Because she was mowing the lawn. That's a man's job according to Mr. Neighbor, and he put the impetus on himself to call her parents and tell them as much.


Not to make light but these behaviors are neurotically hilarious. Have you considered writing and selling a screenplay about Mr. Neighbor to pay for a privacy fence?
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: SomedayStache on May 05, 2016, 07:55:29 AM
Whatever you do, no matter how you are seething inside, you should maintain a facade of good relations with the neighbor. 

Trust me.

Once things becoming openly hostile it is all downhill.  I have seen this escalate to the point that lawsuits occur, the neighbor dispute shows up on the local evening news, or people actually move out of their house because it gets so bad.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Fishindude on May 05, 2016, 07:58:45 AM
I don't dislike my neighbors, not do I consider myself an unfriendly neighbor, but I put a fence on the property line between myself and my neighbors to make it clear where their activities end and mine start.  My biggest gripe was their pets having free run, and debris / trash from their places blowing onto mine and them not cleaning it up.  The fence stops all of that stuff, and we get along fine.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: KCM5 on May 05, 2016, 08:05:59 AM
I think you should do a fence AND a living fence in the front. The three foot fence would protect the living fence from neighbor damage.

Make sure you have good curtains/blinds.

Also, I second all of the people that say to maintain a friendly relationship. You do not want to be on crazy's bad side.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Mr. Green on May 05, 2016, 08:11:36 AM
Your first post makes it hard to understand who is the contrarian. It could have just been that you were uptight and this guy was being relatively harmless. Your follow on comment clears that up nicely. A fence is your best option. It sets clear boundaries and I'd gladly pay $1,000 to eliminate the kind of maliciousness you describe.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Miss Piggy on May 05, 2016, 11:08:26 AM
$1300? Do the fence, and don't delay.

We had similar issues with a neighbor (junkyard in the backyard, one never-finished exterior project after another, never mowing the lawn, tons of trashcans and other junk in the yard, etc.). Called the city, which cited him. He threatened us. Neighbors behind us begged us not to put up a fence, so we have spent THOUSANDS (not a typo) on a "living fence" of mature trees, etc., some of which have died. Mature trees ain't cheap, and we didn't want to wait for young trees to mature in order to have any kind of privacy.

In hindsight, I soooooooo wish we had done the fence. Would have been a helluva lot cheaper.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Spiffy on May 05, 2016, 11:10:53 AM
This makes me miss my old neighbor. He was actually a nice guy, but very old and very bored. So as the first flakes of snow started to fall, he started up his riding snow plow and would ride in circles for hours. It was annoying, but sort of soothing in a way. Plus, he plowed my driveway, too. Now I live in Texas, so no snow plows, but my current neighbor (also nice, old, and bored) does a similar thing with the leaf blower. Once I saw him standing in his driveway on a windy day holding it like a machine gun and blowing away the leave as the were falling! I thought it was the funniest thing I had seen in a long time. My other neighbor is annoying, but in a stupid way. She waters the grass all day every day. I can not imagine what her water bill is. I have muttered so much about it that now my kids complain about how much water she is wasting. But I just smile and wave. It is never good to argue with your neighbor if you don't have to. But your guy sounds sort of nuts, not just old and bored
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Cassie on May 05, 2016, 11:25:51 AM
I had a truly crazy neighbor that would stand outside and yell all night and it was hot and we had to have the windows open. We would call the cops and they would tell him to quit and an hour later he would be doing it again. We finally had to buy room size air conditioners for the bedrooms so we could sleep.  This guy is probably lonely and OCD.  I would just be nice to him. When I was young I had an old guy on my walking route that would wait outside to talk to me. It was annoying but then 1 day he tells me he is lonely since his wife died. I then build in an extra 10 min's to stop and talk to him. When he got cancer I was the only person that he had to talk too. Really sad.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Fireball on May 05, 2016, 12:26:33 PM
Yeah man. Get the fence. Don't wait. Just make up some excuse as to why you need it when he asks. And he's gonna ask. The other crazy stuff you mentioned helped paint a better picture of this guy.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Catbert on May 05, 2016, 12:52:21 PM
When you do the fence be sure you know exactly where the property line is - and ensure the fence is a couple of inches on your property.  check out bldg permit requirements and ensure you pull permits if required.  Yes, even if no one else ever pulls permits.

Don't make an enemy of this guy.  He has a lot more free time and energy than you do.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: AZDude on May 05, 2016, 12:57:23 PM
Be nice but firm. Build a small fence, or even do something simple like put down a ceramic boundary(like the red half-circles) at the property line. Something that clearly defines where one property starts.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: doggyfizzle on May 05, 2016, 01:02:39 PM
I'd go buy a huge jug of Roundup, wait until night, and spray it all over his lawn.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Cpa Cat on May 05, 2016, 01:41:06 PM
Build a fence. It's the only cure for intrusive neighbors. Build it as high was city code allows. Do full privacy - no gaps that he can spray through or spy through.

Make sure you get a survey.

Our neighbors were like this. There was no fence between our yards, and their yard was full of stuff - kids toys, giant trampoline, swingset, etc. So there was nowhere for their kids to do things like play catch, or run around. There was nowhere for their dogs to run. Oh wait - there was a place - our yard, which had neither kids nor dogs.

Their dogs would run over and dig up my garden. Their kids would leave garbage and toys everywhere. The neighbors were always real careful to pick up dog poop in their own yard, but they didn't care if it was in my yard. One day I went out to garden and my neighbors on both sides had their dogs - five of them - in my yard to play. Some kind of doggy playdate. In my yard. Another day, I went outside to find one of their kids swinging upside-down from my tree.

When I tried to politely discuss the issues, they made it seem like I was the bad guy - rather than the person whose homeowner's insurance takes the hit when some kid falls on their head, or a dog bites someone. I was spoiling the fun of kids and dogs everywhere. The wife actually said, "It's not like you're doing anything with your yard. You don't even have a dog." W T F.

When they found out we were putting a fence in, they kept coming over with sections of city code printed out, trying to change what we could do. They even questioned our property survey and demanded to speak to the surveyor directly. They were angry because they felt fences were ugly and "blocked their view." Whatever. The fence has been up for 7 blessed years. They still spray my lawn weeds in the front yard, where there is no fence.

Don't half-ass it. No little boxwoods or trees. No brick boundary. A real privacy fence. Right on the property line.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: SKL-HOU on May 05, 2016, 02:10:37 PM
If you are going to get the fence, make sure it is a little more into your yard (don't put it right on the survey line) so if he destroys the other side, you can make a claim against him. Maybe even install a camera somewhere to monitor the house/fence.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: bobechs on May 05, 2016, 02:27:45 PM
And razor tape.

Nothing says stay-the-fuck-off-my-property like razor tape does...

Well, suveillance cameras, motion-detectors and HESCO bastions do too, but there is a piquant je nais se quoi to peering out through old-school concertina razor tape gleaming in the moonlight.

(http://sjzasia.en.alibaba.com/productshowimg/440366743-218418952/Concertina_Razor_Tape_Wire_Fence.html)
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Mr. Green on May 05, 2016, 02:37:25 PM
And razor tape.

Nothing says stay-the-fuck-off-my-property like razor tape does...

Well, suveillance cameras, motion-detectors and HESCO bastions do too, but there is a piquant je nais se quoi to peering out through old-school concertina razor tape gleaming in the moonlight.

(http://sjzasia.en.alibaba.com/productshowimg/440366743-218418952/Concertina_Razor_Tape_Wire_Fence.html)
Don't forget to add the salute and a "Heil, Hitler!" when you go outside either.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: HipGnosis on May 05, 2016, 02:51:40 PM
Put up a fake security camera facing your property line and mailbox.
Spray paint your property line (they have temporary paint for this, but I don't know what it's called).
Every time you see him out, go out where he can see you with a notepad and paper.  Look at your watch repeatedly - look at your wrist even if you're not wearing a watch. 
If he comes toward you, look at your watch and duck inside.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: TheInsuranceMan on May 05, 2016, 03:06:53 PM
My fiance and I just moved into our first house last November. We love everything about it (location, school district, etc.), except for our neighbor.

My mom says it's like I'm living in a sitcom where writers are trying to make the worst neighbor imaginable just for everyone else's comic enjoyment. While sometimes it is actually funny, it's becoming incredibly annoying. His presence is oppressive and I need to do *something* about it to keep my sanity.

Let's list some things this guy does on a regular basis:

(1) Rakes snow from his lawn into the street, and then hoses down the snow in the street; Weird, but why does this bother you, or your property?

(2) Washes mailbox with a bucket and rag right at dusk, and pretty much peers into other houses for 10 minutes while he pretends to wash this mailbox; Again, a bit strange, but maybe he doesn't like a dusty mailbox and takes pride in his stuff?

(3) Mows his lawn, then blows it with a leafblower, then weedwacks it (the entire yard, not just the edges); What is wrong with this?  Seems awfully common.  Do you use sheep instead of mowing?  Leave your grass on the sidewalks?  Let your weeds and grass grow where your mower doesn't reach?

(4) Mows and fertilizes up to my driveway (a good 10 feet onto my property)...I asked him to stop and he said "I've been doing this since 1978;" What's wrong with fertilizer, or the overreaching fert that lands on your property?  Not sure how this negatively impacts you.

(5) Any time I go outside he comes and talks to me about how much he hates the other neighbors, how things used to be different, etc. All of these conversations do not end unless/until my fiance comes and asks me for help (he talks 95% of the time); People are grumpy, deal with it.

(6) Edges/trims my mailbox; He's probably sick of your property bringing down his property value because you don't keep it up and look like slob.  Why not take the time to edge and trim around your own mailbox so he doesn't have to?

(7) Puts dirt and the debris from the curb and sweeps it into my yard. Only valid beef here, and I bet you are over playing it.


Honestly I could go on forever. Like I said earlier, my fiance and I feel like we need to do something about it. Talking to him and telling him to stop over and over has been fruitless, so I need to do something physically.

The problem with that, though, is that it costs a decent amount of money. Which brings me to MMM.

Option 1--Fence Entire Side of Yard: I could build a fence all the way down his property line. With current zoning laws, I can have a 6' fence all the way to the frontage of my house, then I would need a variance to have a more than 3' fence in the front. I called zoning and they said applying for a variance would be $150 and they obviously can't guarantee this would be granted. My estimated cost for this would be $1,300.

Option 2--Fence Back Yard and Natural Fence Front: Given the above described zoning law, I could just do a "natural fence" in the front yard and have the fence go through the back yard. This would be a little cheaper at $1,100 (the trees I would get are on sale for $20/each this weekend) and I think would actually look a lot better.

But here's the issue: the neighbors behind my evil neighbor put up big pine trees that are about 20 feet off of his property. Evil neighbor went and cut all the branches from about six feet down (to the point I could completely walk under the tree), thus making this natural privacy fence worthless.

Option 3: You tell me. I might not be considering something here. Maybe I can build a wall and make him pay for it?

What would you do?
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: little_brown_dog on May 05, 2016, 04:01:19 PM
I think you are overthinking this. Quirky and annoying neighbors are just part of living in a community. He’s a bit annoying and intrusive, but no one is getting hurt, and no one’s property is being destroyed or seriously impacted. But if you want a fence, I'd go with the natural treeline, just make sure it is slightly behind your property line so he can't hack at them and claim they were on his side.

One of my neighbors always parks in the street right behind our driveway (for no apparent reason), making it tough to back the car out. Another definitely thinks some of our property is his (he mows and fertilizes there) but it’s great because it means less lawn care for us (the law doesn’t care who mows the grass, just where the property lines are). One of our old neighbors hated leaves and would actively complain about our trees every fall, as if the trees (and us by default) were dropping leaves on purpose. She actually cut down almost all of the trees on her own property and was obviously frustrated we didn’t want to do the same (we love our trees and natural landscape). This lady literally moved into a house next to a mini forest and surrounded by trees, but hated them and wanted to cut them all down. It was silly…we just laughed at her secretly behind her back and listened sympathetically about the evil trees once a year.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: MsPeacock on May 05, 2016, 07:26:52 PM
Boundary survey and fence.

I have bad neighbors of somewhat similar ilk (lawsuits against other neighbors, calling the city because the smoke from our firepit  "got in their yard," constant monitoring of everyone around them, not respecting physical or emotional boundaries, etc. Basically nasty people who need hobbies.)

As they say, good fences make good neighbors. Expect that you might have a struggle on your hands over the fence, which is why I recommend a boundary survey. Based on past experience i would also arrange that the install be done in one day without advanced notice to the neighbor.

ETA: My neighbors went ape shit when I replaced the existing 50 year old falling down fence *on my property*. It took 5 months to resolve because of problems they created - entirely on my property. Lawyers had to be involved, etc. Police called. It was fun. The fence guys, as it turned out, were quite familiar with "crazy neighbor" problems. Apparently a lot of people have fences put in for similar problems.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: LeRainDrop on May 05, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
There's a reason why "good fences make good neighbors" is such a well-known saying.  I would go with option 1 here.

Also, find out when his birthday is between now and the fence. He would probably tell you every event in his life-very lonely dude.  Mail him a birthday card.  I know, sounds counter- intuitive, but would not hurt.

That's actually a pretty neat idea.  Since your neighbor seems to like you, I would continue to let him talk at you for awhile when it's not too inconvenient for you.  Hopefully that may go some way towards pacifying him and relieving a bit of whatever craziness he would direct at your property.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: justajane on May 06, 2016, 05:12:59 AM
If you are going to get the fence, make sure it is a little more into your yard (don't put it right on the survey line) so if he destroys the other side, you can make a claim against him. Maybe even install a camera somewhere to monitor the house/fence.

Yes, you need complete ownership of the fence. Better to cede a small part of your property to him  (for practical reasons) then have him be able to either take it down or alter your investment.

1.5K for a fence is super cheap too. We paid 3K for only one side of a four foot cedar fence. Our yard is very deep though and this included two gates.

Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Zamboni on May 06, 2016, 06:55:17 AM
The last one on the list is weird and slightly annoying, but the rest have "just ignore" written all over them.

I love it when any of my neighbors does yard work in my yard. LOVE IT! One guy with a riding lawnmower sometimes mows 4 yards in a row (I am 4 houses over from him, but we all have pretty small yards.) I LOVE this guy. In fact, I wish the neighbor on other side of me who really cares about his lawn would just weed treat the 6 feet of what is technically my property between my driveway and the property, because when the dandelions pop up each spring I can tell it drives him crazy.

Truly crazy neighbors? Oh, I've had some of those in past residences. Just a few examples:

The thieves:
Routinely helped themselves to anything in our yard that was not nailed down or locked up. Besides the normal yard stuff like BBQ grill and snow tires from our shed, their children also pilfered more personally identifiable items from our home (jewelry, athletic equipment with our names written on in permanent marker.) One particularly unique necklace was spotted on their daughter's neck and eventually the children were banned from coming inside. My mom had a fit about the snow tires, but  we couldn't prove they were ours so nothing came of that. Then there was a small row over a baseball mitt, but last straw was theft of our basketball, which somehow pushed my very mild mannered but large and apparently quite-scary-when-he-is-angry father over the top . . . several items, including things we didn't even know they had, were returned to us that day. The thieves also decided to cover their entire lawn with rocks . . . not a rock garden or well planned xeroscaping, mind you, just rocks like they throw down on an unpaved road. Weeds then grew up anyway . . . beauty.

Much to our relief, the thieves were eventually evicted for nonpayment of rent and were replaced by:

The hillbillies:
Two words: pit bulls.
The wife and youngest child were sweet but extremely low IQ. The patriarch and grown sons were just plain scary. We were in the suburbs on quarter acre lots, but they talked of shooting any neighborhood cats who strayed onto their property (although I have no idea why they thought any cat would do this; see the two words.) Daughters were instructed to steer clear of their oldest son. Rocks were mostly scraped up and their yard became a hard dirt patch for the enjoyment of the pit pack. They also had several cars on blocks in their front and back yards, one of which (a VW van) was filled to the ceiling with bags of clothes. My mom mostly felt sorry for them and their dogs who were chained up outside year round, so she befriended the wife by inviting her over for coffee once in a while and it was mostly peaceful. The dogs were definitely not friendly and we had no doubt about their plan to kill us if they ever escaped while we were outside. We bribed them by periodically sneaking them milk bone dog biscuits with the hopes that they would remember our kindness when the fateful day of their escape came.

Psycho dad:
This was years later in a townhouse complex. Psycho dad was named by another neighbor, not me . . . . we had actually been calling him psycho neighbor. So you get the idea: two different household independently came up with the same adjective for him. Think drunk on the porch all day who would skulk around at night vandalizing the property and cars of neighbors and then decide to drunk dial everyone on the neighborhood directory 100 times. One morning I watched him use the same can of spray paint on the dumpster that he had used to spray all over a neighbors car one night the week before . . . . or maybe the exact type of paint was a coincidence? Let's just say it was a larger pattern, and the HOA began trying to foreclose on him (technically for nonpayment of HOA dues.) He moved a couple of months later.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: debbie does duncan on May 06, 2016, 07:27:07 AM
Had crazy neighbours to the east, had encroaching neighbours to the west. Put up a fence post survey. Only wish I had done it sooner. Your crazy peeps may attack the fence, ours did not.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: ShoulderThingThatGoesUp on May 06, 2016, 08:45:53 AM
I had "Biker Neighbors" and "Fireworks Neighbors". Biker neighbors left shortly after their bikes got repo-d. They called the cops on the repo guys, cops came by (not a lot going on here), saw the paperwork, and laughed in the bikers' faces. They were replaced with a very large family who now don't like me because I knocked on their door when I saw their 8-year-old on their metal roof. (Think "OKAY, thaaaaaaaaaanks" when I knocked and pointed that out, with a sarcastic head-tilt.)

Fireworks Neighbors are really only annoying in July and August.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: neo von retorch on May 06, 2016, 09:04:49 AM
Fireworks Neighbors are really only annoying in July and August.

Why are Fireworks Neighbors annoying in July and August?
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: ShoulderThingThatGoesUp on May 06, 2016, 09:20:17 AM
Fireworks Neighbors are really only annoying in July and August.

Why are Fireworks Neighbors annoying in July and August?

They buy a crapton of fireworks for Independence Day and they don't run out until August. Their favorite time to set them off is 10pm.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: KittyFooFoo on May 06, 2016, 12:07:57 PM
I must point out OP that post 1 and post 2 give *very* different impressions.

Post 1 you described a relatively harmless old kook who plays weird games with dirt.

Post 2 described actual, sinister acts of aggression, physical (smearing shit on children's toys) and legal (lawsuit against cancer dude, domestic abuse allegations). 

So you may have been surprised by the number people telling you to calm your anus, but I think post 1 just did not communicate your experience.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Roadrunner53 on January 31, 2018, 08:48:45 AM
Curious if you ever put up the fence?

I have problem neighbors too. One has a 21 year old kid who has decided to tear apart junk cars to sell for parts. He is constantly making loud cutting noises, hammering noises and dragging metal noises. He has a diesel truck that he will let idle for hours on end in the driveway which is next to our living room. This kid is a menace and is junking up his fathers yard. Plus, it is illegal to do this crap in a residential neighborhood. Then I have another neighbor who has two dogs that patrol their yard all day long and anytime we go to get the mail they bark and bark. I let my dogs out and they start barking which gets my dogs barking. Then in the front of my house, across the street, there is this guy who moved in about 2 years ago and first had a small car, manual transmission. Every morning at 5:30 am he get in and revs it up the driveway and is so LOUD! It takes him forever to get to the top of the driveway and then he maxes out each gear to sound like he is in the Indy 500. Well, lucky us, that car must have blown up and he bought a SUV that was quiet. Now, the muffler is shot on it and it makes a racket. They just don't give a crap that they wake the whole neighbor hood up. The house in back of me leaves flood lights on all night long and they shine right into my bedroom. I have blinds or otherwise it would be lit up like daylight in there. I would prefer to live on about 50 acres right in the middle with no neighbors if I could.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: ReadySetMillionaire on January 31, 2018, 09:44:30 AM
Curious if you ever put up the fence?

I have problem neighbors too. One has a 21 year old kid who has decided to tear apart junk cars to sell for parts. He is constantly making loud cutting noises, hammering noises and dragging metal noises. He has a diesel truck that he will let idle for hours on end in the driveway which is next to our living room. This kid is a menace and is junking up his fathers yard. Plus, it is illegal to do this crap in a residential neighborhood. Then I have another neighbor who has two dogs that patrol their yard all day long and anytime we go to get the mail they bark and bark. I let my dogs out and they start barking which gets my dogs barking. Then in the front of my house, across the street, there is this guy who moved in about 2 years ago and first had a small car, manual transmission. Every morning at 5:30 am he get in and revs it up the driveway and is so LOUD! It takes him forever to get to the top of the driveway and then he maxes out each gear to sound like he is in the Indy 500. Well, lucky us, that car must have blown up and he bought a SUV that was quiet. Now, the muffler is shot on it and it makes a racket. They just don't give a crap that they wake the whole neighbor hood up. The house in back of me leaves flood lights on all night long and they shine right into my bedroom. I have blinds or otherwise it would be lit up like daylight in there. I would prefer to live on about 50 acres right in the middle with no neighbors if I could.

I guess I feel guilty to report that my neighbor is suffering from some very strange gastrointestinal illness that has largely kept him indoors.  He's probably under 110 pounds at this point and I feel bad for the guy.  He's barely outside and now pays people to do all his landscaping.

He still does seem weird stuff, though.  He comes over with an empty gallon of water at like 9:00 AM on a Saturday morning asking us to fill it because he thinks his water is tampered.  He gave out handfuls of chocolate chips on Halloween.  He wanders over nearly every time I'm outside to tell me about his health issues, and I just politely deal with him.

I'm playing it by ear for now, but I don't wish poor health on anyone.  Hope he gets better.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: jim555 on January 31, 2018, 10:19:56 AM
The OP, I would drive in some wood stakes along the property line.  On my side I would plant in some hidden green metal rods.  If he tries to cut it it will ruin his blades.
If he gives you any grief shank him and throw his body in the woods.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: lbmustache on January 31, 2018, 11:21:08 AM
Curious if you ever put up the fence?

I have problem neighbors too. One has a 21 year old kid who has decided to tear apart junk cars to sell for parts. He is constantly making loud cutting noises, hammering noises and dragging metal noises. He has a diesel truck that he will let idle for hours on end in the driveway which is next to our living room. This kid is a menace and is junking up his fathers yard. Plus, it is illegal to do this crap in a residential neighborhood. Then I have another neighbor who has two dogs that patrol their yard all day long and anytime we go to get the mail they bark and bark. I let my dogs out and they start barking which gets my dogs barking. Then in the front of my house, across the street, there is this guy who moved in about 2 years ago and first had a small car, manual transmission. Every morning at 5:30 am he get in and revs it up the driveway and is so LOUD! It takes him forever to get to the top of the driveway and then he maxes out each gear to sound like he is in the Indy 500. Well, lucky us, that car must have blown up and he bought a SUV that was quiet. Now, the muffler is shot on it and it makes a racket. They just don't give a crap that they wake the whole neighbor hood up. The house in back of me leaves flood lights on all night long and they shine right into my bedroom. I have blinds or otherwise it would be lit up like daylight in there. I would prefer to live on about 50 acres right in the middle with no neighbors if I could.

The first instance may be something that can be reported to the city - you can't really run a shop/garage type set-up in a neighborhood. The barking may also be something that can be reported to animal control, if it is constant enough.

I feel for you and all the others with annoying neighbor crap. I too have annoying neighbors. I live in a condo with a parking structure underneath and I have a guy with a modified car (cue intense motor and exhaust noises) who leaves for work at the crack of dawn. Before I replaced my windows (A GODSEND, do this if you haven't already), they would rattle and create even MORE noise in the morning. There are plenty of other annoying people but I'll save the stories for later.

I love living in the city, but crappy/annoying neighbors make me want to move someplace with no one around me for miles.
Title: Re: How Should I Deal with My Crazy Neighbor?
Post by: Roadrunner53 on January 31, 2018, 11:45:38 AM
Curious if you ever put up the fence?

I have problem neighbors too. One has a 21 year old kid who has decided to tear apart junk cars to sell for parts. He is constantly making loud cutting noises, hammering noises and dragging metal noises. He has a diesel truck that he will let idle for hours on end in the driveway which is next to our living room. This kid is a menace and is junking up his fathers yard. Plus, it is illegal to do this crap in a residential neighborhood. Then I have another neighbor who has two dogs that patrol their yard all day long and anytime we go to get the mail they bark and bark. I let my dogs out and they start barking which gets my dogs barking. Then in the front of my house, across the street, there is this guy who moved in about 2 years ago and first had a small car, manual transmission. Every morning at 5:30 am he get in and revs it up the driveway and is so LOUD! It takes him forever to get to the top of the driveway and then he maxes out each gear to sound like he is in the Indy 500. Well, lucky us, that car must have blown up and he bought a SUV that was quiet. Now, the muffler is shot on it and it makes a racket. They just don't give a crap that they wake the whole neighbor hood up. The house in back of me leaves flood lights on all night long and they shine right into my bedroom. I have blinds or otherwise it would be lit up like daylight in there. I would prefer to live on about 50 acres right in the middle with no neighbors if I could.

The first instance may be something that can be reported to the city - you can't really run a shop/garage type set-up in a neighborhood. The barking may also be something that can be reported to animal control, if it is constant enough.

I feel for you and all the others with annoying neighbor crap. I too have annoying neighbors. I live in a condo with a parking structure underneath and I have a guy with a modified car (cue intense motor and exhaust noises) who leaves for work at the crack of dawn. Before I replaced my windows (A GODSEND, do this if you haven't already), they would rattle and create even MORE noise in the morning. There are plenty of other annoying people but I'll save the stories for later.

I love living in the city, but crappy/annoying neighbors make me want to move someplace with no one around me for miles.

Yes, I have thought about reporting this junk yard kid many times but spouse used to work with the kids father for years and years. So there is a friendship issue. I keep hoping the kid will move and in the event we try to sell our house, that is when the hammer will come down for them to clean up the mess. We have seen these kids from the time they were babies and now grown men. The dogs are definitely good guard dogs but annoying. I guess I just have to be happy they have a home. The guy with the loud car needs an ass kicking. I live on an acre lot but still too close to the neighbors. I have looked on line mostly at some new construction in other states and OMG, the houses are on top of each other. You could put your arm out the window and ask your neighbor for a cup of sugar! Not for me! Next home needs to be surrounded by lots of acres. The junkyard kid really irks me. Last night he left his diesel loud ass truck running for about 2 hours straight in the driveway and I can feel vibrations from it in my house. Why are people so inconsiderate? Horrors on the guy in your condo garage!