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Home Cider Help
« on: September 26, 2014, 07:32:43 AM »
I have been trying to make my own cider for a while now but I can't quite get it to turn out right.  I prefer a cider that has more carbonation than what I have been getting using MMM's article as a guide.  Does anyone know how I can get more carbonation into my cider?  Is it as simple as adding more yeast?  Thanks in advance

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2014, 07:53:09 AM »
Add sugar (maybe a half cup to a gallon of cider) and shake after the initial 2 weeks, seal with sterilized cap and leave in fridge 2 more weeks. That made enough carbonation for me, if you want more add more sugar.

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2014, 08:00:52 AM »
Are you bottling at all? That might be the next step, since you can add sugar before you bottle it and it'll have time to ferment those sugars without the air escaping.

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2014, 08:39:37 AM »
Thanks for the tip Philo, I will give that a try on the next batch.  Senecando, no I am not currently bottling.  I have just been keeping it in my one gallon glass jugs at least until I get a recipe that I like then I am considering bottling.  Is it a hassle to bottle your own cider?

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2014, 09:18:40 AM »
Strangely, I have found that using juice from concentrate produces substantially more carbonation than actual apple cider / juice with pulp. This is probably due to the increase in nucleation sites.

Also, I have found that using bread yest can produce a sweeter tasting cider with added sugar. The Champaign yeast just makes a sour drink, and all added sugar is consumed quickly.

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2014, 09:22:19 AM »
Thanks for the tip Philo, I will give that a try on the next batch.  Senecando, no I am not currently bottling.  I have just been keeping it in my one gallon glass jugs at least until I get a recipe that I like then I am considering bottling.  Is it a hassle to bottle your own cider?

I don't think it's a hassle though it does take more work. It is more expensive. You need bottles and some tubes, a place to store that stuff, etc. Over time, those costs are pretty minimal.

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2014, 09:35:01 AM »
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The Champaign yeast just makes a sour drink, and all added sugar is consumed quickly.

True, the Champagne yeast loves to gobble up tons of sugar till the juice is very dry...  What I do if guests want it sweet/taste more like sweet cider is to add a little frozen apple juice concentrate...  Bam, it doesn't significantly water down the cider, and adds sweetness that wont ferment out with a nice apple taste.  Do similar with my dry wines, just add a splash of Cranberry juice, and you have a super tasty drink on the rocks, that rocks you!  Might try bread yeast, just concerned about the flavor...  Really don't want it tasting too yeasty/off flavors.

As for carbonation, I too have added a little sugar to the bottle, and left in the fridge, carefully monitored.  Fizzes right up for me.

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2014, 09:38:45 AM »
Strangely, I have found that using juice from concentrate produces substantially more carbonation than actual apple cider / juice with pulp. This is probably due to the increase in nucleation sites.

Also, I have found that using bread yest can produce a sweeter tasting cider with added sugar. The Champaign yeast just makes a sour drink, and all added sugar is consumed quickly.

I find that adding a bit of sugar and a cinnamon stick and leaving the cider sealed in the fridge for 2 weeks after initial fermentation fight off that sour flavor quite well. I'm going to make 3 gallons for our Halloween party that's coming up so I may try bread yeast in one of them. 

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2014, 10:04:15 AM »
There is only one kind of Cider I like! And that is Dickens Brand Cider!!!  :  )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz2imNk5qAg

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2014, 10:41:21 AM »
I'll also point out the time it takes to bottle. If you are only doing one gallon batches at a time, it's not too bad, but prepping all the bottles (washing, sanitizing, etc.) for a 5 gallon batch does take a while and is best done with an assembly line with friends/family/other people :) Not that it cannot be fun, I've had "beer bottling" parties, and had a great time.

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2014, 11:59:16 AM »
This is also a great place to utilize any child labour you have available. My 5yo loves to help me bottle beer and cider. She thinks the siphon is very cool.

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Re: Home Cider Help
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2014, 10:24:28 PM »
Yes, youll need to bottle carb...  Search any homebrew site and you'll get loads of info.  Getting a racking cane and bottle filler is the right way to go, but you can certainly get some big swing top bottles and gently pour the primed cider in there too while youre getting started.