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roomtempmayo

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Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« on: November 22, 2024, 02:03:57 PM »
My wife and I have talked for years about getting a home audio setup, but we've never taken action. 

What we'd like is a single setup that can cover three rooms (living, dining, and kitchen), playing music from our phones and maybe a record player, and the ability to control each room separately (e.g. only in the kitchen).

I think what we want is something like what Sonos offers with modular speakers and players, just for less money.

Any recommendations?

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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2024, 02:12:14 PM »
Ubiquiti recently released a networked power amp product, so that would be worth a look if you are into the UniFi ecosystem at all.

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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2024, 11:20:35 AM »
If you can get it down to 2 zones and are willing to run wires, a lot of surround sound amps have a "speakers A" and "speakers B" button. My 20 year old Yamaha has that feature, and I'm about to run wires to the kitchen.

Would the music be inaudible from the DR if it was playing in both the kitchen and LR? Do you really need DR speakers?

A bluetooth device that can plug into a regular receiver is less than ten bucks on ebay, and will allow you to DJ from a phone or tablet. A decent receiver/amp can be found for $50 on FB marketplace all day long. Note that most amps made in the past 30 years lack a "phono" input, and record players produce a tiny signal compared to other devices, so you'll probably need a pre-amp for the record player ($40 and up).

Then blow all the money you saved on some nice passive speakers with a neutral flavor and crisp bass, like most Bowers & Wilkins or Paradigms, and they will work with whatever tech comes next. I love my early 2000's B&W DM303's (but do not buy the 302's) and they can be had in good condition for $250/pair on ebay. Newer models cost about the same on the used market though.

Get the biggest speakers your spouse will allow you to fit into the space, and a decent subwoofer too. Position them in the corners, at ear level if possible. A good center channel does wonder for actors who mumble their lines in movies.

This advice is optimized for sound quality on a budget, so your priorities might differ. If you don't mind having the sound quality of a high end retail store and having your equipment go obsolete in 10 years, something like three Sonos boxes will be fine. It costs a bit more to go that way than my way though. Also, I'm not sure how easily a record player interfaces with a Sonos system, but I'm sure it can be done if you buy new and high end. I'm running a 1970's Dual that I found in my dad's garage and it sounds extraordinary, but that's with everything hard-wired to a cheap pre-amp and traditional analog receiver.

You do lose some resolution when moving sound signals with Bluetooth, especially pre 5.0 standards, so I'm skeptical about what is essentially a daisy chain of connections between speakers using wireless standards. Add to those losses if you're listening to compressed internet radio stations. So one thing I like about the traditional setup is you can always play a CD or record and hear your music at 100% of the quality you can afford. And you can upgrade piece by piece over time, until satisfied. Start with 2 of the best bookshelf speakers you can fit and afford and move up the chain from there, if it's even necessary.

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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2024, 02:43:04 PM »
FWIW, it's easy enough to run a turntable and CD player through a SONOS system. My turntable goes into a pre-amp then into an A-B switch, with the CD player going into the other terminal. The switch then connects to the line in terminal on an ERA100.

Select A (turntable) or B (CD player) and line in on the SONOS speaker and you can have whatever you like on any speaker throughout the house.

Read the current reviews on the SONOS app before committing any cash though; they 'improved' it so they could accommodate their own headphones and it's been, er, interesting ever since...

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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2024, 07:12:17 PM »
How about Amazon Echo Studio and/or other Echo devices in each room?

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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2024, 05:19:50 AM »
Ikea has their own brand Sonos speakers, thet work with the Sonos app but are significantly cheaper. I can definitely recommend them.

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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2024, 08:53:18 AM »
@ChpBstrd We're dealing with three rooms with walls in between, so we'd really like to avoid wires.  I started going down the rabbit hole of vintage hifi gear, and had to pull myself back.  We live in 1300sqft, and filling it with stereo gear wouldn't be a good use of space for us.

@Chuck Ditallin Thanks, that's good to know.  I'm going to read more on the Sonos app.  The people I know who have a Sonos setup seem to really like it.

@GilesMM We've avoided Alexa so far out of a desire to not have Bezos constantly listening to our conversations.

Ikea has their own brand Sonos speakers, thet work with the Sonos app but are significantly cheaper. I can definitely recommend them.

Ooh, this might be exactly what we're looking for.  We're not audiophiles, we just want pretty good sound with minimal fuss.
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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2024, 11:44:05 AM »
Thanks for the recommendations everyone.

We ended up buying a pair of the Ikea-branded Sonos speakers, and with one evening of use so far we're very happy with them.  We'll probably grow the setup in the future.

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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2024, 03:02:49 PM »
if you are an apple person - you can use home pods and tie them together

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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2024, 09:05:24 AM »
Thanks for the recommendations everyone.

We ended up buying a pair of the Ikea-branded Sonos speakers, and with one evening of use so far we're very happy with them.  We'll probably grow the setup in the future.

Glad they meet your expectations 😃

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Re: Home Audio Setup Recommendations?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2024, 10:56:43 AM »
A bluetooth device that can plug into a regular receiver is less than ten bucks on ebay, and will allow you to DJ from a phone or tablet. A decent receiver/amp can be found for $50 on FB marketplace all day long. Note that most amps made in the past 30 years lack a "phono" input, and record players produce a tiny signal compared to other devices, so you'll probably need a pre-amp for the record player ($40 and up).

Bluetooth sounds like... something the dog scratched up, processed, and left in the lawn, unless all parts of the chain support more modern codecs, and then still sound marginal.  Hardwired inputs are nice, and some of the USB-C DACs can be found cheaply as an input source - the Apple adapter ones (USB-C to 3.5mm, or Lightning to 3.5mm, though I believe those are obsolete now) have amazing performance - and are under $10.  They outperform far higher end DACs, especially if you're going into a high impedance input and not driving a set of headphones (though I believe they push a remarkable amount of power for their size too).

The turntable output signal is not only tiny, it's not properly equalized - the phono preamps boost the level, but also apply the RIAA equalization curve to reverse the recording curve.  The raw signal, boosted, is very "tinny" sounding - highs are amplified dramatically and lows are cut down when mastering the record, and the preamp reverses this process.  But, yes, a good phono preamp is no bit of exotica, and you need not spend insane money on a preamp unless you want to.

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Get the biggest speakers your spouse will allow you to fit into the space, and a decent subwoofer too. Position them in the corners, at ear level if possible. A good center channel does wonder for actors who mumble their lines in movies.

I agree, and you mention them later, but modern bookshelf speakers (the larger AudioEngines A5s or such) can sound excellent as well if you don't have access or space for the larger, older style.  Those have the advantage of often having an internal amplifier, so you can simply run your line level signals in.  I've got several sets of those scattered around, and they're a good option for smaller spaces.  But, yes, a subwoofer is worth the money for a rumble - and you should have a separate output signal for it off whatever your amplifier is.

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You do lose some resolution when moving sound signals with Bluetooth, especially pre 5.0 standards, so I'm skeptical about what is essentially a daisy chain of connections between speakers using wireless standards. Add to those losses if you're listening to compressed internet radio stations.

Indeed... never learn to hear compression artifacts if you haven't, because you will never learn to unhear them.  And they are everywhere.  Cymbals should be crisp, not a muddy swirling smorwooshing.

How about Amazon Echo Studio and/or other Echo devices in each room?

"Please, sir, may I buy more surveillance technology for my house so you can properly market to me at all hours of the day?"

The sound quality is atrocious, but even if they were full high end audio gear for $50, the vile concept of those means one ought never have one.

We ended up buying a pair of the Ikea-branded Sonos speakers, and with one evening of use so far we're very happy with them.  We'll probably grow the setup in the future.

Congratulations on your future ewaste.  Your parents old audio system will well outlast your new app-based atrocity, but at least they have the deliberate bricking "recycle mode" feature to ensure that nobody can repurpose them!