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MountainFlower

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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2015, 01:16:04 PM »
TRAVEL!  No question. 

I never felt good during pregnancy and I've known people who were so sick that they could barely function.  Morning sickness can last all day for some people.

Also, I had my second at 41.  I was pregnant the first month we tried. 

None of this is really relevant to you except that pregnancy is different for everyone and you can't predict 1.) how soon it will happen, and 2.) how good or bad you will feel. 

Just do the travel and maybe toward the end, start trying. 

Good luck!


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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2015, 03:37:23 PM »

I'm 37, but I'm not sure how that's relevant to the conversation.
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Maybe the takeaway here is "anecdotal evidence of one person's personal experience does not demonstrate statistical trends."
Not sure what there is to argue about.  Statistically most women / men don't travel, especially globally for months / years on time, at least in America. It's fact.  Why do we keep going round and round on this?  Do you have some stats that contradict that?

And the age is relevant in that most women in their 30's have kids, family, and find it a lot harder to travel (hence the basis for the OP's question in this thread to begin with). 

You seem to have taken my words personally as if it's an attack on your lifestyle.  I'm really glad you're doing what you're doing, your lifestyle is not the norm in the U.S.  I think more people should do what you're doing, but it's not reality.
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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2015, 04:01:07 PM »

I'm 37, but I'm not sure how that's relevant to the conversation.
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Maybe the takeaway here is "anecdotal evidence of one person's personal experience does not demonstrate statistical trends."
Not sure what there is to argue about.  Statistically most women / men don't travel, especially globally for months / years on time, at least in America. It's fact.  Why do we keep going round and round on this?  Do you have some stats that contradict that?

And the age is relevant in that most women in their 30's have kids, family, and find it a lot harder to travel (hence the basis for the OP's question in this thread to begin with). 

You seem to have taken my words personally as if it's an attack on your lifestyle.  I'm really glad you're doing what you're doing, your lifestyle is not the norm in the U.S.  I think more people should do what you're doing, but it's not reality.

Statistically most women / men don't retire early, either.  That doesn't mean they wouldn't enjoy it.

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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2015, 04:10:14 PM »


Statistically most women / men don't retire early, either.  That doesn't mean they wouldn't enjoy it.
Again not what I said (quite the opposite!!).  Why are a few people putting words in my mouth?

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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2015, 04:20:47 PM »


Statistically most women / men don't retire early, either.  That doesn't mean they wouldn't enjoy it.
Again not what I said (quite the opposite!!).  Why are a few people putting words in my mouth?

I must have misunderstood.

If you're looking to travel for months on end, let me tell you that's going to get really old really quick.


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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2015, 04:28:07 PM »


I must have misunderstood.

If you're looking to travel for months on end, let me tell you that's going to get really old really quick.
Which was validated by a few people who also did that.  Nor I didn't say "everyone" would feel that way, but it was a potential downside for a lot of people.   Everything in moderation.  That applies to travel, for the majority of the people out there.  My post was more of an observation for a lot of people, but not 100% of the people out there.

I supposed I could have worded it like a "viagra" ad... and cover every possible exception...better sharpen up my legalese.
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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2015, 04:57:57 PM »
Not sure what there is to argue about.  Statistically most women / men don't travel, especially globally for months / years on time, at least in America. It's fact.  Why do we keep going round and round on this?  Do you have some stats that contradict that?

And the age is relevant in that most women in their 30's have kids, family, and find it a lot harder to travel (hence the basis for the OP's question in this thread to begin with). 

You seem to have taken my words personally as if it's an attack on your lifestyle.  I'm really glad you're doing what you're doing, your lifestyle is not the norm in the U.S.  I think more people should do what you're doing, but it's not reality.

I do have a family.  I've only been abroad once with kids.  All this travel happened in my 20s pre-children (pre-marriage, in fact).  I currently live a reasonably "normal" life.

To be honest- you did strike a nerve.  The whole "OMG YOU'RE A WOMAN AND YOU FEEL THIS WAY??!?!?" response to limeandpepper ... well I guess it got my hackles up.  Yeah, I think extendo-traveling is awesome. I'm also an engineer.  I'd also rather camp than go shopping.  The whole women-generally-fit-into-this-bin attitude gets pretty tiring after awhile.  I've heard it about lots of things (stop the presses, I can do math) but never about traveling.  That's a new one.

We're not arguing that extended travel is not the norm- of course it's not...we're arguing (or discussing, or whatever) whether it's so abnormal for a WOMAN (!) to travel rather than a man that a woman who traveled and ENJOYED IT (!) is an astonishing thing to run into.  You mentioned that in your experience, women travel less than men.  I noted that in my experience, more women than men travel.  I also noted that neither of these experiences makes a trend.

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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2015, 05:09:53 PM »
Count me in as another woman who enjoys long term travel!

One of my long term travels involved renting an apartment in Spain for 1 month, so maybe that part needs to be classified as relocation... Also I stayed in Bosnia for about a month once... Never traveled for work though.

Perhaps long term travel is less common in the states, but what does that have to do with the likelihood that the OP will get tired of travel after a few weeks? What an absurd statement.

But for an American, especially one who has never been abroad? This is highly atypical...and highly likely that they will get tired of travel after a few weeks.

To the OP, my vote is go travel first! 1 year won't make much difference and you can start trying to get pregnant on the trip.

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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2015, 06:25:35 PM »
Again not what I said (quite the opposite!!).  Why are a few people putting words in my mouth?

If one person thinks you're spouting generalized truisms, maybe it's them.  If 5 people think you're spouting them, maybe it's you.  :-)

To the OP, go try it!  You can always come home.  My wife is just now starting to be able to travel with me now that our daughters are out of the house, and we certainly would've delayed children to experience that earlier if we could have (I'm an old fogey here at 48).

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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2015, 02:44:31 PM »
There was a great article in the Atlantic a couple of years back on the topic of age and fertility (and the many myths surrounding it). The link is below. Travel away, a year isn't going to make a difference! Also, don't quit traveling once you have children- just got back from 5 weeks in Nicaragua with my wife and 8 month old son. You can't ask for a better ice breaker than a baby!

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/07/how-long-can-you-wait-to-have-a-baby/309374/

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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2015, 04:02:08 PM »
Yes, it may take awhile to get pregnant... but it may not. Case in point:

I am also 30 (31 next month). I removed my non-hormonal IUD in December 2014 and BAM! got pregnant in January 2015. Husband and I were very VERY surprised it happened that quickly (then I miscarried in March 2015, but that's not the point I'm making).

To all those saying "why not both?" I would caution that if the knocking up part happens early on in the travelling part your plans may change quite quickly.

We honeymooned mid-January to February 2015; I was already feeling pregnancy-yucky by the end of it and travelling is NOT something that I would want to do in the early days of human gestation (morning sickness, food aversions, tiredness, etc). Having also gone through the subsequent miscarriage, I would not want to miscarry in a country where healthcare is not as easy-to-access [and FREE] as my own is.

Just some food for thought. But what an exciting time for you!

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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2015, 05:10:39 PM »
Yes, it may take awhile to get pregnant... but it may not. Case in point:

I am also 30 (31 next month). I removed my non-hormonal IUD in December 2014 and BAM! got pregnant in January 2015. Husband and I were very VERY surprised it happened that quickly (then I miscarried in March 2015, but that's not the point I'm making).

To all those saying "why not both?" I would caution that if the knocking up part happens early on in the travelling part your plans may change quite quickly.

We honeymooned mid-January to February 2015; I was already feeling pregnancy-yucky by the end of it and travelling is NOT something that I would want to do in the early days of human gestation (morning sickness, food aversions, tiredness, etc). Having also gone through the subsequent miscarriage, I would not want to miscarry in a country where healthcare is not as easy-to-access [and FREE] as my own is.

Just some food for thought. But what an exciting time for you!

yes yes yes.  So many good points here.  And I felt like crap the minute I was pregnant and pretty much stayed that way.  The LAST thing that I would want is to be on travel. 

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Re: Get knocked up or travel
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2015, 05:30:04 PM »
I have traveled a bit.  Visited maybe 10 other countries.  Lived in Russia for a few years.  I would not give us that experience easily.  It changed me and helped me understand myself and others better.  I would recommend living somewhere foreign, but not tourist-y  big cruise-ship style of travel.  That doesn't change you as much.  If you really want to travel, try studying the history and language and staying in the country for a little while so you understand the place better. 

However, I would give it up all of that experience for my kids.  If I had to pick travel or children, I would pick kids.  They changed me more than traveling did.  They give me a different outlook on life.  They make me a better person and happier.  I like kids more than traveling, although I hope to travel much more when the kids are grown and leave the nest. 

It sounds to me like you are unsure whether to travel or have kids.  To quote the Cheshire cat from Alice in Wonderland:

Alice: “Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
Cat: "That depends a good deal on where you want to get to."
Alice: "I don't much care where –"
Cat: "Then it doesn't matter which way you go.”