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Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« on: July 02, 2016, 05:32:02 AM »
2012 Sportswagen TDI owned outright. My buyout is $20,827. I want to take it and get a MMM worthy vehicle that's meets the following:
  • $5000 to $7500
  • carry a family of four (kids 6 and 4) and our stuff on a trip
  • can tow a small boat to the landing (1500 lbs ~1 mile)
  • fuel efficient

No other constraints. Would love to hear your suggestions.
Thanks!

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2016, 02:01:14 PM »
Not even one suggestion?

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Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2016, 04:37:03 PM »
http://cars.axlegeeks.com/stories/5035/best-compact-suvs-towing-capacity#Intro

Any of these in older models. I personally like the Subarus because they are kind of the State Car of Maine and there are always a ton available used.
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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2016, 05:03:00 PM »
Honda Fit. You can still totally tow that boat with it (I know two people with that exact car that do it), assuming your estimate of the weight isn't too far off. Smaller cars are much more capable at towing than we typically give them credit for.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2016, 05:16:42 PM »
Mazda 2, 3, 6

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2016, 07:22:51 PM »
Honda Fit. You can still totally tow that boat with it (I know two people with that exact car that do it), assuming your estimate of the weight isn't too far off. Smaller cars are much more capable at towing than we typically give them credit for.
We've looked at the Fit, and test drove it. Not to be too tongue and cheek, but that is a wicked tight fit with the family. Car seats take up SO much room!

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2016, 07:23:46 PM »
Mazda 2, 3, 6
Thanks! I'll check these out.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2016, 07:28:49 PM »
http://cars.axlegeeks.com/stories/5035/best-compact-suvs-towing-capacity#Intro

Any of these in older models. I personally like the Subarus because they are kind of the State Car of Maine and there are always a ton available used.
Thanks, PBK. I had a 2WD Subby (I know... weird) a few years back and LOVED it! Got it for $2500, put 75k miles on it, spent $60 in repairs, and sold it for $1600. Best car, ever.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2016, 07:49:25 PM »
Fellow buyout here! 2015 Jetta TDI =o Greatest used buy ever for us... we got it for $15k, our buyout is going to be ~$23k (plus the $5k "we're sorry" payback or whatever that is). We did verify that the buyout comes to the person who *currently* owns the car. Which I was paranoid about.

It's sad though- we really love the car, but it's not like we're going to pass up the buyout- it's literally making money on the car to sell it back. But my husband drives a TON for work, so we need to figure out another fuel efficient highway commuter for him.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2016, 11:07:43 PM »
If the Fit is too small Volvo XC70s are good too, and would definitely be more spacious for the kids. If you can find one with a good maintenance history you're set (they seem to come in two flavors: trouble-free and always-breaking).

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2016, 06:06:10 AM »
That's a shame, the Sportswagen is the ultimate family car.

The newer "compact SUVs" have decent fuel economy, think CR-V.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2016, 07:45:10 AM »
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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2016, 07:47:08 AM »
How are you finding out about your buyback offer? I have a 2012 Golf TDI and haven't heard anything yet. I really don't want to get rid of that car!

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2016, 07:49:48 AM »
How are you finding out about your buyback offer? I have a 2012 Golf TDI and haven't heard anything yet. I really don't want to get rid of that car!

Well, it doesn't finalize until a hearing on July 26th, but they have the proposed settlement and buyout details online here: https://www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en/ Look under "class action settlement agreement". The VIN lookup right now just tells you if you're affected.

And a good accessible overview: https://www.cars.com/articles/volkswagen-diesel-settlement-what-owners-could-get-1420684898611/

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2016, 03:38:19 PM »
I had a 2007 Pontiac Vibe, before I got a VW (sold before the scandal). Loved the Vibe.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2016, 02:28:55 AM »
Fellow buyout here! 2015 Jetta TDI =o Greatest used buy ever for us... we got it for $15k, our buyout is going to be ~$23k (plus the $5k "we're sorry" payback or whatever that is). We did verify that the buyout comes to the person who *currently* owns the car. Which I was paranoid about.

It's sad though- we really love the car, but it's not like we're going to pass up the buyout- it's literally making money on the car to sell it back. But my husband drives a TON for work, so we need to figure out another fuel efficient highway commuter for him.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Bracken, but you will only be getting 50% of that, or $14k. The original owner gets the other 50%.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2016, 02:29:28 AM »
How are you finding out about your buyback offer? I have a 2012 Golf TDI and haven't heard anything yet. I really don't want to get rid of that car!

http://jalopnik.com/heres-exactly-how-much-volkswagen-will-pay-you-for-your-1782745097

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2016, 02:31:50 AM »
I had a 2007 Pontiac Vibe, before I got a VW (sold before the scandal). Loved the Vibe.
How's the room in the back seat? Cargo? Can it tow?

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2016, 02:32:00 AM »
That's a shame, the Sportswagen is the ultimate family car.

The newer "compact SUVs" have decent fuel economy, think CR-V.
I know! We're wicked bummed. VW really screwed the pooch on this one. I was ready to be a lifer. Absolutely no chance now.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2016, 02:46:43 AM »
If the Fit is too small Volvo XC70s are good too, and would definitely be more spacious for the kids. If you can find one with a good maintenance history you're set (they seem to come in two flavors: trouble-free and always-breaking).
Thanks, Soccer! I'll check it out.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2016, 04:57:56 AM »
I don't see the point of small SUVs. As I was pulling my C-Max Energi into the service bay, an Escape was behind me. They're the same height, they both seat five, but the C-Max gets like 45 MPG and then gets ludicrously cheap to fuel when you plug it in. (I had a Fit previously, and the C-Max is much more roomy feeling, but probably hard to get for $7500 still. Depending how much you drive, the plug-in benefits might make it worth it, though.)

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2016, 07:57:47 AM »
Fellow buyout here! 2015 Jetta TDI =o Greatest used buy ever for us... we got it for $15k, our buyout is going to be ~$23k (plus the $5k "we're sorry" payback or whatever that is). We did verify that the buyout comes to the person who *currently* owns the car. Which I was paranoid about.

It's sad though- we really love the car, but it's not like we're going to pass up the buyout- it's literally making money on the car to sell it back. But my husband drives a TON for work, so we need to figure out another fuel efficient highway commuter for him.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Bracken, but you will only be getting 50% of that, or $14k. The original owner gets the other 50%.

According to the article you posted below, only the restitution is divided, not the car buy back value. However, we searched pretty heavily on the settlement paper work, and I don't see where the article is pulling this from. I would love to find where he found the 50/50 claim, since there's a whole section on leasees and new owners on the settlement website, and I didn't see that anywhere.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2016, 10:37:14 AM »
If the Fit is too small Volvo XC70s are good too, and would definitely be more spacious for the kids. If you can find one with a good maintenance history you're set (they seem to come in two flavors: trouble-free and always-breaking).
Thanks, Soccer! I'll check it out.

You're welcome! I forgot to add - the non-AWD version, the V70, is equally good and a bit better on gas. :) But they're not quite as popular because of that whole Subaru effect (you know, where Station Wagons are Boring, but Slightly Raised AWD Station Wagons Are Wicked Cool!!!)

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2016, 01:27:26 PM »
 VW really screwed the pooch on this one. I was ready to be a lifer. Absolutely no chance now.
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This! Won't buy another VW because I don't believe in rewarding really shitty behavior.

I have a 2013 Golf TDI, and am searching for something similar.  Thinking about the Mazda 3 hatchback, though I wasn't crazy about the rear/side visibility when I test drove one (before I bought my Golf).

What I'd really like is a car with all of the features of my VW,  that isn't a VW, and I think Mazda is the closest I can get. Anyone out there in the Mustachian hive mind with a better suggestion?
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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2016, 02:18:21 PM »
Fellow buyout here! 2015 Jetta TDI =o Greatest used buy ever for us... we got it for $15k, our buyout is going to be ~$23k (plus the $5k "we're sorry" payback or whatever that is). We did verify that the buyout comes to the person who *currently* owns the car. Which I was paranoid about.

It's sad though- we really love the car, but it's not like we're going to pass up the buyout- it's literally making money on the car to sell it back. But my husband drives a TON for work, so we need to figure out another fuel efficient highway commuter for him.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Bracken, but you will only be getting 50% of that, or $14k. The original owner gets the other 50%.

According to the article you posted below, only the restitution is divided, not the car buy back value. However, we searched pretty heavily on the settlement paper work, and I don't see where the article is pulling this from. I would love to find where he found the 50/50 claim, since there's a whole section on leasees and new owners on the settlement website, and I didn't see that anywhere.
Lots of info in this thread and other threads on that same forum: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=463038

BTW, there is no $5K on top of the buyout price - the buyout price includes the "fraud compensation".

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2016, 03:43:16 PM »
We're not going to sell back our 2013 TDI passat.  We love it too much.  We'll just take the reduced cash payment and pay off most of what's left on the car. We love it too much to get rid of it.  And then deciding what to buy is impossible.  Our model also only has a firmware fix, which I think they may have already done because our car is going through more of the Bluetec fluid.  I honestly could care less about the emissions, they are still emitting less than a diesel truck.  Unless it extremely affects gas mileage, I can't see getting rid of it.

 

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2016, 07:10:26 AM »
We're not going to sell back our 2013 TDI passat.  We love it too much.  We'll just take the reduced cash payment and pay off most of what's left on the car. We love it too much to get rid of it.  And then deciding what to buy is impossible.  Our model also only has a firmware fix, which I think they may have already done because our car is going through more of the Bluetec fluid.  I honestly could care less about the emissions, they are still emitting less than a diesel truck.  Unless it extremely affects gas mileage, I can't see getting rid of it.

You will not receive any cash from VW unless you get your car fixed - at this point no fix has been identified for any of the affected engines.  The bandaid fixes they tried so far have not worked.  So it may be a while before you see any money from them.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2016, 08:04:01 AM »
Just wanted to add, in response to the OP, that I am considering replacing my Jetta Sportwagen TDI with a gas version of the same car.  The fuel efficiency is not as good as the TDI but it is decent in comparison with similar cars.  Other than that you get exactly the same car you have now.

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2016, 08:53:29 AM »
Mazda 2, 3, 6
Thanks! I'll check these out.

We have a mazda3 hatch, love it love it love it

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Re: Future VW diesel buyout recipient... what next?
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2016, 08:14:32 PM »
Thoughts on Mazda 5? I kinda have a crush on them right now.