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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2018, 10:57:33 AM »
Replace the smoking for sleep with masturbation.

Now THIS idea I can get behind!

The problem with this is that it's way more fun to jill off high lololololol
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« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2018, 11:06:53 AM »
I thought that pot was less addictive than caffeine?

For me, it isn't. It's more of a psychological thing but I do have physiological effects when I stop entirely. I could quit caffeine easily and have done so in the past - it's been far more difficult for me to change my pot habits.

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2018, 11:41:53 AM »
I tend to treat anything that gets to the "I need XYZ..." stage as a problem to address. Caffeine, alcohol, pipe tobacco, etc.

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« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2018, 01:24:24 PM »
this thread is now making me feel real guilty over needing my morning cup of coffee to "get things moving."  Sure I can quit, but I LOVE it!  I'll quit when I retire, I promise!

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« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2018, 01:27:48 PM »
Yeah Iím working from home today and really wanna bust out the vaporizer. Must resist...

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2018, 01:40:31 PM »
Do you know how addiction works? It's not as simple as "just quit".

It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when you think of it that way.  Baby steps can work, but you have to accurately measure your progress.  And it's all too easy to deceive yourself that you are making progress towards your goal if you continue to smoke even a little.  The person inside who craves the smoke is not going to give it up so easily and will do anything to deceive the rational mind.  It's like the fox guarding the hen house.  The fox must be confronted head-on and you can't underestimate the intelligence of the fox.  I'm not judging here, that's just the way it is with us humans.

Smoking is going to interfere with an exercise routine, so the more exercise you do and the more you enjoy it, the greater power you will have to quit.

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2018, 01:51:30 PM »
this thread is now making me feel real guilty over needing my morning cup of coffee to "get things moving."  Sure I can quit, but I LOVE it!  I'll quit when I retire, I promise!

I quit caffeine but I really do miss the morning cup. my problem is moderation. I seem to build a tolerance very quickly and before I know it im sucking down a whole pot in the morning... when it got to the point of me getting a headache if I don't get my cup in the morning, I realized I needed to stop.

Caffeine had far worse withdrawal symptoms than pot. Nasty headache for several days and feeling really slow/sluggish in the mornings before I got used to not having a constant drip of caffeine. Pot for me was just the decision to stop, some weird dreams for a few weeks and thats about it.

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2018, 10:27:08 AM »
I thought that pot was less addictive than caffeine?

For me, it isn't. It's more of a psychological thing but I do have physiological effects when I stop entirely. I could quit caffeine easily and have done so in the past - it's been far more difficult for me to change my pot habits.

Kudos to you for at least trying to work on the problem. 

Youll have to experiment to find what works best for you.  As you say, this isnt really a physical addiction, it is more of a habit that you have to break. 

If you have a routine for your consumption try breaking that routine by skipping a couple of iterations.

Ironically, due the the illicit nature of this habit ( in most of the country it's still illegal and frowned upon by most polite society ) most of us that use have also developed routines around that use.  Things related to where we hide our stash (hehe not how we normally use that term around here) or where we smoke. 

The nature of those routines, the cycles, create something of a ritualization which makes it even more psychologically habit forming.  You have to consciously take control of you brain to intervene and stop some of those cycles.   So maybe dont think of it as not using per se but rather as breaking more behavioral cycles that lead to that use.   Adjust the circumstances that coincide with your habitual use and see if it helps reduce the reflexive use. 



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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2018, 11:35:10 AM »
No tips on how to stop smoking, please, I'm not there yet :P

Sorry, but I would quit.  Get outside and take a walk, bike, or get some other form of exercise.  Feel the warm sun on your face.  Start today.  A little exercise does wonders.

Do you know how addiction works? It's not as simple as "just quit".

I found a 12 step program very helpful.  I tried quitting lots of times before that with no luck.  And I identify as an athiest, for what it's worth.

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2018, 01:41:39 AM »
I'm aware it's a lot, which is why I'm asking for advice! I make $72k currently and live in Cleveland, so I do have a lot of disposable income. I dream of what I could save if I could stash that money away instead of burning it (literally) on weed.

Your phrasing there makes me concerned that you have a problem. And that's not because it's weed - I'd have the same concern if it was cigarettes, or booze, or anything. If you find that you "need" weed - for any reason, that's not good. The key with any of these substances is that it's something you enjoy, but if for whatever reason it wasn't available, you'd shrug and move on with your day.

I recommend that you try not using weed in any form for a month. One full month. At the end of the month, sit down and reflect on how it went. How do you feel? How are you sleeping, hows your work, family, and social lives? Really honestly reflect. More than that, figure out the person who cares for you, wants the best for you, and will give you brutal truth when necessary. Ask them if they've noticed anything different about you over that month.

Once you've done that, then decide what level of consumption you're ok with, both personally and budget wise. Then stick to it.

Oh I'm well aware that I have a problem. I'm physically and psychologically dependent on it, I've admitted that. It's not quite as simple as "just stop smoking" for a month, and you'll notice I specified that I didn't want that kind of advice. I am looking for ways to be more frugal with my weed usage, like using economical vapes or using a pill case to track how much you use.

I have smoked in the past, but I never inhaled.

According to my PSY100 textbook, it's not possible to be physically dependent on marijuana. However, it's very possible to be psychologically dependent. Your behavior seems to be consistent with psychologically dependence. Marijuana is very unique because it has reverse tolerance properties. It stays in your system for 30 days. The more is in your system, the easier it is to get high. This is why many people do not get high their first time smoking pot.

To eventually stop being psychologically dependent, I would first try to go smoke free at least one day/week. I would replace the smoking in front of the television with exercise. You will need to avoid the physical environment that is associated with smoking pot. When you get home from exercise, do not sit on the couch. Go directly to your bedroom.

I think one month of being smoke free would be the best, but you are not there yet. Start with one day/week and try to get some momentum. You might need to avoid hanging with your friends for one month. It's doable. After the one month, you can go back to smoking, but there is a good chance you will no longer be psychologically dependent.

For frugal consumption, I would stick with a bong.

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2018, 08:50:35 AM »
No tips on how to stop smoking, please, I'm not there yet :P

Sorry, but I would quit.  Get outside and take a walk, bike, or get some other form of exercise.  Feel the warm sun on your face.  Start today.  A little exercise does wonders.

Do you know how addiction works? It's not as simple as "just quit".

Actually some people can "just quit" though I won't argue that everyone can do such things.  Whether you can or can't is something only you can know (or find out!).

That being said, I am not saying you should quit.  We all have our "sins" after all, and it seems like you are taking advice to at least tapper use, and replace it with healthier activities (The gym is a GREAT start!).   Here is hoping you succeed in cutting cost and use!

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2018, 09:53:10 AM »
I spend between $50-100/month, and it seems to last forever. 1g ground up = ~10 small bowl packs.....if you're burning through 7g a week then I would cut consumption by 50%.....you will enjoy it more when you do smoke.

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2018, 11:52:34 AM »
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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2018, 12:13:05 PM »
Honestly it sounds like there's a dependency and you should get help with that. I recommend talking to a counselor who specializes in addictions. Marijuana might not be organically addicting, but it can turn into a dependency for sleeping, eating or social situations.

Another actionable tip I recommend: invest in a vaporizer. I bought the original model of the PAX for $200. It's paid itself back at least twice just in efficiency. Not to mention it doesn't involve taking a bunch of smoke into your lungs. The PAX has gone through two more iterations since and the newer ones are even better. Smoking once a week for me and my S/O, I go through 1/4 in about 6 months. Half an ounce for an entire year is pretty good.

I also recommend growing it if you're interested in the botany/science (so long as it's legal). The minute it becomes legal in my state, I'm growing. I've been fascinated by growing and would really like to take it on as a hobby. Problem is, I don't actually smoke a whole lot so I guess I'd have to give away a lot of it to friends!

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2018, 12:45:58 PM »
I also recommend growing it if you're interested in the botany/science (so long as it's legal). The minute it becomes legal in my state, I'm growing. I've been fascinated by growing and would really like to take it on as a hobby. Problem is, I don't actually smoke a whole lot so I guess I'd have to give away a lot of it to friends!
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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2018, 12:57:03 PM »
How much time do you spend watching TV on average?

If it's several hours every night, that might be more of a concern than the smoking. It's been discussed that it's not a physical addiction so much as a psychological habit and TV can be the same way. When I lived with smoking roommates, the smoking wasn't as much of an issue as the time wasted watching a TV. I remember nights where I couldn't get the TV fix in and I had this nagging feeling like I had missed out on something but of course I hadn't missed anything.

As for the cost, others have made good suggestions but even just rationing would be a good start. You really can bring your tolerance down but TV and smoking are a bad combo, it's too passive. Even if it's good TV, you're going to get bored and reach for the bowl. Maybe try rationing your TV time first?

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« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2018, 07:30:44 PM »
I also recommend growing it if you're interested in the botany/science (so long as it's legal). The minute it becomes legal in my state, I'm growing. I've been fascinated by growing and would really like to take it on as a hobby. Problem is, I don't actually smoke a whole lot so I guess I'd have to give away a lot of it to friends!
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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #67 on: September 20, 2018, 11:44:22 PM »
CBD oil is a good alternative. $300 dollars on pot is way too much for me. I hope you find what you're looking for. All the best.

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« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2018, 09:00:33 AM »
No tips on how to stop smoking, please, I'm not there yet :P

Sorry, but I would quit.  Get outside and take a walk, bike, or get some other form of exercise.  Feel the warm sun on your face.  Start today.  A little exercise does wonders.

Do you know how addiction works? It's not as simple as "just quit".




Judges have "encouraged" plenty of people to "just quit".  It's amazing how the serious actions a judge can take will get you to quit immediately.  Might not be "fun", but it works!!  lol

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Re: Frugal marijuana use?
« Reply #69 on: September 21, 2018, 06:10:11 PM »
During the week, maybe try replacing the pot with CBD oil for sleep?  May or may not work, but it is commonly used for insomnia.  I see two potential benefits:

1 - It's legal, so you benefit from price competition.  It's still going to cost money, but quite possibly less than the pot you are currently buying.
2 - Because it doesn't have the THC, you'll be taking a break from that during the week, so you'll need less pot to get high when you are actually trying to do so.

Very good idea! I've heard a lot about CBD but haven't ventured into it yet. I should try that on weekdays.

If interested, here is a posting I made on the subject:

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/making-cheap-cbd-oil/msg2087316/#msg2087316

Also, you CAN get high from industrial hemp...  It's just a matter of knowing the chemistry.  Industrial hemp must be under .3% THC by dry weight to be sold in all 50 states.  But as with regular cannabis, there may be little to no THC in the buds, but there is THC-A.  So what does this mean???  Well, after decarboxylation (basically toasting the plant material for 40-50 mins @220 degrees or so), the THC-A, converts into THC.  I have bought lab tested industrial hemp with ZERO % THC, yet after the heating step wind up with a product of about .5% THC.  It just takes a little bit of time to read the lab report for the hemp you want to buy, to see which ones will convert to the most THC, if desired.

Sure, it may take 5-7 grams of this hemp material to work, but when put through just a bit of mortar and pestle time, you have a product that looks just like ground cumin.  Mix it in some coconut oil to extract the THC, and you now have a mix containing 25mg or so of THC.  Buying a 1/2b of very good quality hemp for about $70 makes A LOT of very good CBD oil, and other medicine.  Good luck.

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« Reply #70 on: September 21, 2018, 09:23:51 PM »
No tips on how to stop smoking, please, I'm not there yet :P

Sorry, but I would quit.  Get outside and take a walk, bike, or get some other form of exercise.  Feel the warm sun on your face.  Start today.  A little exercise does wonders.

Do you know how addiction works? It's not as simple as "just quit".




Judges have "encouraged" plenty of people to "just quit".  It's amazing how the serious actions a judge can take will get you to quit immediately.  Might not be "fun", but it works!!  lol

It doesn't work for everyone, even for judges.  Yes, some people can 'just quit', but that doesn't mean everyone can.  Everyone's addiction is different.