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Kunimaro15689

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From suicidal to wanting to win!
« on: October 19, 2016, 10:44:32 AM »
Hi, guys! This already feels like where I need to be!!!

I am 24 years old with big goals and big dreams. Just those two elements. No money, just got back into my industry (car sales) no place or transportation of my own. How did someone with dreams end up in such an unfortunate place, you ask?

Self destructive suicidal depression.

It was bad. With 4 attempts over the past 10 years, I have managed to destroy a lot with myself and everything around me. But away with the sobs. Something finally clicked that has always been there and it is awesome.

I've always wanted to achieve the stars. As a kid I loved motivational speakers, success stories and developing visions. I have an ethic that is unstoppable when I focus. I have a heart and a do-or-die desire to make the world a better place. The reason I wanted to leave so badly was because of how bad it is and always has been.

So like I said, something clicked. It was this voice, with the stern tone of a strong and seasoned coach that started asking me during my self defeating boxing matches, "What are you going to do about it?!" My answer was "I will help!" Instead of walking around town with my head hung in the dirt, it makes me look at beautiful, elegant parts of nature, immaculate houses that are perfectly sized for my family along with all the other things we could need or dream of and it says, "what makes you think that you can't have that? Why do you believe you don't deserve that? Go get it!!!"

Well i don't know WHERE this voice came from, but the best way to get me motivated is with a nice firm challenge and goodNESS I am already seeing changes! When I tell you guys I knocked my new interview out of the park, I should have walked in the dealership with a baseball bat! I developed a plan to get my OWN foundation beneath me and once I got it all worked out I became ADDICTED to strategizing. All distractions? Gone. All my wants? Don't care. I have this mantra I repeat, "I will get it in the end. I will get it in the end. I will get it end the end!!!!"

I have a high IQ and a ton of blessings that most would kill for. I abused them and made a fool of myself. All of that has changed. I am finally putting the pieces together.
 
I bumped into you badasses while researching wealth building so I can change the way I think and breath about money on a day to day basis. If it is what makes the world go 'round with it evidently spinning the wrong way, I want to do my part in changing the direction. That takes money. That is the step after step 1: foundation is achieved; Step 2: re-invention, picking a destination and setting sail for it full blast like the Spartan I know I was born to be. Not just for me, but for my kids and humanity.

I need help on developing this mindset and ultimately where to start with taking money and making money. "It takes money to make money" has always been an earworm I didn't understand it until the words "turn it over, turn it over" popped up. That sounds like it fits and if that is how money works, through flipping and turning it over then that is insane! It sounds like a game I want to play.

Even if you can't tell me where to start, challenge me!!!
If you think I've bitten off more than I can chew, motivate me!!!

The bad part already feels like it is over because I finally want something now. I want to knock this challenge and any others out of the park. I want to win! I want to be a Spartan!
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Re: From suicidal to wanting to win!
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2016, 11:13:28 AM »
Not trying to be a dick (of course not, not trying either), but are you in a good place overall?  Seeing a professional therapist regularly? Again, not to be a dick, I genuinely hope you are given your history. 

I've got a few bipolar, manic-depressive friends and your backstory and then over-enthusiasm about your future really reminds me of them.  I'm afraid you now have a goal that you are laser focused on, but if face any sort of setback towards that goal you will revert back to your depression.  Again, not a  dick, blah blah blah, and not trying to diagnose you over the internet, but that post worried me more than anything.

I hope you do achieve your goal and get the advice you are seeking from here, but keep it all in perspective. Don't chase what you hope will be happiness.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2016, 11:15:09 AM by plog »

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Re: From suicidal to wanting to win!
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2016, 11:56:12 AM »
I'm also a little concerned with this posting.

FIRE and wealth building will not automatically create happiness.  It is not an end onto itself.  It is only a means to help some people ultimately free up their TIME in order to pursue more personally  meaningful things.


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Re: From suicidal to wanting to win!
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2016, 12:23:50 PM »
I understand your concerns! I was diagnosed with schizoeffective bipolar disorder this year. I am receiving treatment. I have had goals in the past and have had setbacks crush me. I'm tired of it. You guys notice the pattern. I notice the pattern. I know you aren't trying to be a dick. No need to apologize. I just don't want people to look at me like I have a handicap. I don't want to feel like I can't have a life where I achieve great things because I am a little different. Okay.... A lot different. But does that mean I can't give it my all, too? If I am going to face the setbacks and major pitfalls and literal weight of anything in life then why not face it for something worth accomplishing. I am not chasing happiness. Despite being bipolar, this is the first time I have felt anything in years. Literally years. THAT makes me happy. Money for happiness is to simple to miss the error within it. Its the journey that makes me happy. The little moments and the story I am writing along the way. If I want it to have a good ending then I dont think that is a bad idea. So what if I don't achieve it all? What I do achieve with that intent will be much better than anything I have done before and in my opinion would show a lot of progress with my will, patience, determination and service along the way.

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Re: From suicidal to wanting to win!
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2016, 12:33:23 PM »
I ask that you guys really read my original post to get an idea of what I want out of life now...

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Re: From suicidal to wanting to win!
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2016, 12:34:29 PM »
I understand your concerns! I was diagnosed with schizoeffective bipolar disorder this year. I am receiving treatment. I have had goals in the past and have had setbacks crush me. I'm tired of it. You guys notice the pattern. I notice the pattern. I know you aren't trying to be a dick. No need to apologize. I just don't want people to look at me like I have a handicap. I don't want to feel like I can't have a life where I achieve great things because I am a little different. Okay.... A lot different. But does that mean I can't give it my all, too? If I am going to face the setbacks and major pitfalls and literal weight of anything in life then why not face it for something worth accomplishing. I am not chasing happiness. Despite being bipolar, this is the first time I have felt anything in years. Literally years. THAT makes me happy. Money for happiness is to simple to miss the error within it. Its the journey that makes me happy. The little moments and the story I am writing along the way. If I want it to have a good ending then I dont think that is a bad idea. So what if I don't achieve it all? What I do achieve with that intent will be much better than anything I have done before and in my opinion would show a lot of progress with my will, patience, determination and service along the way.

I don't think anyone's telling you not to do what you want to do, I think they're just a bit concerned for your safety.  We just want to make sure you didn't do what many people in similar situations to you do, and totally bail on treatment and therapy because you're having a good week/month/few months.   

Your self confidence is enviable, and you've got a lot of energy (at least it seems that way based on your writing).  There are many mental "disabilities" that are actually advantages in certain jobs/industries.  Plenty of famous historical figures have these "quirks," and it can be a good thing.  Inventors who have a touch of autism or ADD, artists with bipolar issues, business leaders with ADD or sociopathy, the list goes on.  You just have to be aware of your vulnerabilities, as well as your strengths.  A job in sales seems like a good fit for you, knock it out of the park!

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Re: From suicidal to wanting to win!
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2016, 12:37:32 PM »
Thank you for your support! I have been studying my disorder to understand it's strengths and weaknesses. There is a lot of information to go through. But, all in all, the more I understand, the better :)

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Re: From suicidal to wanting to win!
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2016, 05:43:51 AM »
Kunimaro15689, you and I have some key background pieces in common. I invite you to come hang with me at my blog: https://financialtipsforthebroke.com/   There I explore some of the financial pieces relevant to having an interesting neurology, requiring different strategies than most, etc, yet succeeding in the fullest sense of the word.

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Re: From suicidal to wanting to win!
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2016, 08:00:09 AM »
Cool! Checking it out now :)

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Re: From suicidal to wanting to win!
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2016, 08:37:46 AM »
...big goals and big dreams.... No money, just got back into my industry (car sales)

.... I have an ethic that is unstoppable when I focus... I have a heart and a do-or-die desire to make the world a better place.

I have a high IQ and a ton of blessings that most would kill for.
 
I need help on developing this mindset and ultimately where to start with taking money and making money. "It takes money to make money" has always been an earworm I didn't understand it until the words "turn it over, turn it over" popped up. That sounds like it fits and if that is how money works, through flipping and turning it over then that is insane! It sounds like a game I want to play.

Even if you can't tell me where to start, challenge me!!!
If you think I've bitten off more than I can chew, motivate me!!!

First off lets start with your industry, car industry as you put it.  This is an excellent starting point for a salesman going into more of a career.  However, at this time lets put a car salesman in the scope of a 'job'.  We need a career and to build on the skills you already have.  (Only if you want to consider this as your industry)

 - I would challenge you to look towards a college degree like marketing, accounting, or finance.  There are multiple reasons but the first should be to increases your self-worth/self-esteem.  Another reason is it will make you more marketable and others will look at you differently while on your career path (inc Experience & inc Education...  well he can be a manager)

Second what would our career path look like?  Well if we are staying in this market a career ladder may look like the following:

Car Salesman -> Finance Manager -> Sales Manager -> Used Car Mgr -> General Sales Mgr -> General Mgr -> Dealership/Owner

Look at what a promotion would need and entail.  Also do searches online about what the job pre-reqs are so you can start striving to get promoted.  Be prepared to work at a different dealership if you have the skills but cannot get promoted.  Always leave on good terms.

Work on inspirational quotes that help motivate you to meet your goals
(If you get a job in field you love, you never work a day in your life)

A journey starts with one step but every step along the way start building up the strengths needed to succeed.