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Knock wood, I'm going to be in Europe on a Viking river cruise for about two weeks in August.

I know from previous experience that my cell carrier (Page Plus) does not work there.

I'd like my cell phone to work there.  Specifically I want Google maps to work and basic web queries to work.  I don't need to make phone calls with my phone.

My phone is a Samsung Galaxy A11.

I think I have read that I just need to buy some sort of SIM card there and install it.

So my dumb questions:

1.  Is that basically it?

2.  Where do I buy one of these?

3.  About how much should it cost?

4.  Anything else to know or keep in mind?

Thanks!

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A Eurolink prepaid SIM might fit your needs. If your phone is unlocked you will be fine. https://www.airalo.com/europe-esim

I can't comment on whether it's a good deal as until recently (Grrr Brexit) I was in Europe.

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Yeah, that looks like it would work - my phone is unlocked - except it's an eSIM.  I think I need a physical SIM because my phone apparently doesn't support eSIM.

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Typically I just pick up a physical SIM in the arrivals area when I fly into Europe, or reasonably good-sized cities in most other parts of the world - as long as it's during business hours....if you arrive at 3am, you may have to wait til the next morning, when your hotel can help you sort it out.

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1.  Is that basically it?

Yes. On arrival, you simply swap out the SIM card (look up how to do this for your type of phone in advance if you haven't done it yourself before) and your phone will start operating on a different network (and with a different phone number, which would be relevant if you plan to text anyone at home via SMS). You're basically prebuying access to a given amount of data on a particular European network (or possibly multiple networks).

2.  Where do I buy one of these?

I have bought them in the airport on arrival, but you can order one in advance (from any number of websites) and take it with you.

3.  About how much should it cost?

It depends how many gigs of data you want it to offer, and whether it needs to work in multiple countries (I'm guessing yes, for a two-week river cruise?). If you only need a few GBs, you should be able to get one for $20-30 tops, last I checked. I've previously used this one, but it's probably more data than you need so may be overkill: https://orange.simoptions.com/ (looks like there is a 20% discount with coupon code "simoff20").

4.  Anything else to know or keep in mind?

Your phone needs to be "unlocked" (i.e. can be used on multiple networks). You should be able to check with your carrier to see whether this is the case.

Make sure to check the activation steps before you leave; with some cards it's a good idea to activate them shortly before your trip. Others will simply work on arrival.

Enjoy, and please report back! I've always been interested in European river cruises and would love to hear a review.

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I stopped at a mall close to the airport and bought a SIM card for 20 Euro. That gave me unlimited everything for a month.

I used three - http://three.com/

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OK, I just went ahead and got one of these in advance so I don't have to mess around when I get to the airport:

https://www.amazon.com/Unlimited-Three-Mobile-High-Speed-Free-Roaming/dp/B07MVR985Y

I think it'll work.

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@mckaylabaloney this will be my second one; I imagine it will be much like my first.  Let me know what you're interested in and I can give you my feedback based on my first one now.  I'll forget to get back to you after my second one mid-August!

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4.  Anything else to know or keep in mind?

Your phone needs to be "unlocked" (i.e. can be used on multiple networks). You should be able to check with your carrier to see whether this is the case.

Make sure to check the activation steps before you leave; with some cards it's a good idea to activate them shortly before your trip. Others will simply work on arrival.

Enjoy, and please report back! I've always been interested in European river cruises and would love to hear a review.

Also check your phone's LTE band support. LTE band 20 (800MHz) is going to be important in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe

Especially as many North-American market phones seem to use bands unique to the Americas.

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^ Thanks.  Mine appears to support band 20, as well as a bunch of others.

https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a11/sm-a115u1/

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@mckaylabaloney this will be my second one; I imagine it will be much like my first.  Let me know what you're interested in and I can give you my feedback based on my first one now.  I'll forget to get back to you after my second one mid-August!

Oh, cool -- that's a good endorsement in itself, I suppose. One thing I'm curious about is what the experience of just being on the boat is like -- I know they're not the same as ocean cruises, with an excess of entertainment, so what do travel days feel like/what do you do? I'm envisioning a lot of time reading books on a quiet deck (which to me sounds much better than an ocean cruise), but I don't know if that has any basis in reality :) Also, do you eat all your meals on the boat, and if so, do you feel like you're missing out on experiencing local restaurants etc.?

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@mckaylabaloney this will be my second one; I imagine it will be much like my first.  Let me know what you're interested in and I can give you my feedback based on my first one now.  I'll forget to get back to you after my second one mid-August!

Oh, cool -- that's a good endorsement in itself, I suppose. One thing I'm curious about is what the experience of just being on the boat is like -- I know they're not the same as ocean cruises, with an excess of entertainment, so what do travel days feel like/what do you do? I'm envisioning a lot of time reading books on a quiet deck (which to me sounds much better than an ocean cruise), but I don't know if that has any basis in reality :) Also, do you eat all your meals on the boat, and if so, do you feel like you're missing out on experiencing local restaurants etc.?

Well, I go with my Dad.  He's 85, has mobility issues, but likes to travel.  So he invites me along to help with mobility logistics and just to travel and spend time together.  Overall they're enjoyable enough but I doubt I would do one on my own.

The boats are tiny compared to ocean cruises - the one we're on has 93 rooms, so only about 186 passengers on board, plus maybe 20 or 30 crew.  So you do tend to get to know other passengers much better, which I like.

The rivers are generally calm, and the boats are long, so there's really not any issue with sea sickness.  I suppose it depends if you're going upstream or downstream, but they go pretty slow too.  We're taking 10 days to get from Passau, Germany to Budapest, Hungary, to give you an idea.

The European rivers have a bunch of locks on them to raise/lower the ships periodically.  Those are kind of cool the first few times.

Usually there's one destination per day, with a free walking excursion of whatever city you're at to see the local sights in the morning, then some free time to explore on your own.  Then maybe some paid activities on shore in the afternoon, or reading on board, or occasionally a local cultural lesson / demonstration, like local singers, or a local discussion of a historical event (we heard a good lecture on the bridge at Remagen and the history around that).  Dinner is somewhat long, with five courses or so.  Depending on the next destination, the ship usually gets underway in the afternoon, and people tend to enjoy just watching the scenery - which usually includes picturesque villages and also castles.

As far as meals, they have all three on the ship every day, but some people will choose to skip the shipboard lunch to eat on shore to experience, as you say, the local cuisine.  Occasionally on the walking tours the ship guide will buy a local treat of some renown, like chocolate or cheese.  Several of the stops on the last one we went on had village markets of fresh food which you could buy.  In Strasbourg I found a cheese shop that I liked and bought a random block of cheese which was really good.  And the paid excursions often include a wine tasting / vineyard visit or similar, and people often buy wine from those either for onboard consumption or more often gifts to family (hard to get back home in your luggage safely, but you can try it or have it shipped).

It's mostly people over sixty, but they're usually interesting - not to be snobby, but river cruises tend more towards the cultural and mobile set vs. ocean cruising which is more entertaining and staying on board ship.  There are middle aged people like me, and occasionally college age or so grandchildren.

I would say that the pace is leisurely, but not slow.  Depends on your travel personality I suppose.

HTH.

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Thank you!

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If you don't need calls, an easier and cheaper option would be to just download the Google Maps areas you need to your Offline Maps prior to leaving and continue to use the ship's Wi-Fi/local Wi-Fi for any web searches.

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I'm envisioning a lot of time reading books on a quiet deck (which to me sounds much better than an ocean cruise), but I don't know if that has any basis in reality :)

That's funny; this is exactly what I do on days at sea.

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The other nice thing about Viking river cruises is that they don't allow anyone under 18. 

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I'm envisioning a lot of time reading books on a quiet deck (which to me sounds much better than an ocean cruise), but I don't know if that has any basis in reality :)

That's funny; this is exactly what I do on days at sea.

This is honestly good to know; my impression of ocean cruises is that they are overwhelming and mostly pretty loud, but that's all secondhand info and probably down to the personalities of the people I know who have taken them. Do you recommend them, as a general rule?

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I'm envisioning a lot of time reading books on a quiet deck (which to me sounds much better than an ocean cruise), but I don't know if that has any basis in reality :)

That's funny; this is exactly what I do on days at sea.

This is honestly good to know; my impression of ocean cruises is that they are overwhelming and mostly pretty loud, but that's all secondhand info and probably down to the personalities of the people I know who have taken them. Do you recommend them, as a general rule?

Not the person you asked, but I've been on one ocean cruise too.

Ocean cruises are much bigger ships, so there's thousands of people on board instead of a couple hundred.

Ocean cruises vary in their "at sea" days vs "in port" days.  A traditional Caribbean cruise might have 2 of the former and five of the latter.  A repositioning cruise might have 10 of the former and 2 of the latter.

"At sea" days are generally like being in a large, floating hotel.

When the ship arrives in port, you and 3000 of your closest friends are all trying to get ashore to do excursions, go shopping, visit the beach, whatever.  It's like herding a lot of cows, honestly.

Regardless of where and when and which line you pick, big cruise ships have loud areas (casino, shops, swimming pool, show area, dining area, zip lines, roller coasters, whatever) and quiet areas (lower and rear decks, library, your room, the spa), so you can sort of self select into the area and crowd you like.

Most ocean cruises are the 50 and up crowd.  Some cruise lines have a reputation for younger crowds (Disney?, Celebrity?), but honestly cruising - regardless of how you do it - usually costs $200 to $500 per person per day, and most cruises last a week or two.  And generally speaking, older folks are the ones with the time and the money to do that.

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I'm envisioning a lot of time reading books on a quiet deck (which to me sounds much better than an ocean cruise), but I don't know if that has any basis in reality :)

That's funny; this is exactly what I do on days at sea.

This is honestly good to know; my impression of ocean cruises is that they are overwhelming and mostly pretty loud, but that's all secondhand info and probably down to the personalities of the people I know who have taken them. Do you recommend them, as a general rule?

Cruising isn't necessarily our most favorite form of vacation, but they definitely have a place, and are great for relaxation as you have very few responsibilities during the cruise.  So while a minority of Americans still have not gone on a cruise, yes I would recommend them, particularly as a way to sample an area of the world you are not familiar with.

Yes, well the biggest cruise line is named "Carnival" for a reason.  And of course Disney is going to cater to families with kids.  Generally, the more upscale you go, the older the crowd.  We like Royal Caribbean, which is big enough to be reasonably priced, but has a better balance of quiet and loud places on the ship, for a variety of tastes.  I tend to camp out in the Solarium, an adults-only area, near the lemonade stand where they also put out fresh cookies.  No way to lose weight, but great way to pass an afternoon.  You can even doze off for a while, if you want.  My wife, who is a true sun worshipper but has issues with loud noise, also seems to be able to find quiet, sunny places when she wants.

I used to hate days at sea because I tried to engage in the activities the cruise line had going on.  (Days at sea are the most profitable for the cruise line, as they are not splitting the alcohol / shopping / activity money with any port)  You are able and welcome to do what you want, though, and let the gamblers and barflies subsidize your cheap vacation accommodation and transportation.