Hello All-
I am glad to have found this website and forum. I'm new around here so please forgive me if I'm asking simple questions. Fifteen years ago I read "The Overspent American" and a few books on investing and it greatly influenced my life. However, after discovering MMM just a few weeks ago, I realize there was a lot more I could have done to save. I don't feel too bad about it, since in my case I was a musician for most of my 20's and made virtually no money but have still managed to put away a decent nest egg. I have just started making what I consider to be a great salary at $120K/ year. My wife and I are both 36, and we just had our first baby. We had both planned on working until 50 and then fully retiring. By then, we'd have more than enough put away, plus a decent pension coming. Now, however, we are starting to wonder about ways to possibly "semi-retire" in about 4-5 years.
Here is the current situation:
Savings
Combined 401Ks: $275,000
Combined Roth IRAs: $157,000
Taxable Investments: $110,000
529 Plan for the little one: $5,800
Debt
$6,000 in low-interest student loan debt
Car is paid off
Income
I recently started making $120K
Wife made $80K until we had the baby, she is staying home right now.
Overall we're pretty happy with our financial situation, and we generally like our jobs, but we like each other more than work, and we do fantasize about having a lot more time at home together and to spend on hobbies of which I have many. The main problem we have right now is that we live in an extremely expensive area for work and family reasons, so we own no real estate and our single biggest expense is rent which sets us back about $20K per year. More on that later.
In the next year or two, I have an opportunity coming up at work which would allow us to live rent and utilities free for about 1.5 years, and also make an additional $50K in salary during that period. So I think with some diligent savings, we could conservatively end up with the following picture by age 40:
Savings
Combined 401Ks: $450,000
Combined Roth IRAs: $200,000
Taxable Investments: $250,000
529 Plan for the little one: ???
I am trying to figure out what kind of lifestyle this amount of money could support, and how exactly we would go about getting the money since most of it will be tied up in retirement accounts that have early withdrawal penalties. I have just begun to learn about 72t withdrawals, and as far I understand it I could pull about $16K per year at age 40 from the 401K using that method. Are there other ways I could withdraw more without a penalty? I am also trying to determine which pots of money we would want to be withdrawing from at which times in order to be best positioned for taxes. I should point out that I will be able to collect a pension starting at age 62 which will be worth about $18K per year (not to mention Social Security, which at 62 would be worth an estimated additional $13K per year for me, and probably a similar amount for the wife).
Another question I have relates to the 529 plan for the little one. As you can see, it is rather modest for now, but a college education is a priority for us. However, we are struggling with how much to put away each month. I've seen estimates of everywhere from $250/month to $600/month, and I am wondering if there is any consensus around here. Another thought is to just divert a large chunk from our taxable investment accounts to the 529 right now and just be done with it. Although again, if we did that, how much would be enough? Is college savings a legit reason to delay retirement until 50 or am I overthinking this one?
A final question involves real estate. A big part of the reason MMM is able to keep his monthly expenses so low is they have a paid off house. In our area, real estate is insanely expensive and we have stuck to renting for that reason. The only way we would currently consider buying is to purchase a duplex or triplex and live in one unit while renting the others. Still, this would require putting all of our taxable investments into a down payment which we are somewhat hesitant to do, especially if we could be looking to retire and move elsewhere in 4-5 years. One question I am grappling with is, if I do quit my job at 40, and we moved to a less expensive area, should we take our $250k in taxable investments and purchase a home outright? Or do we continue renting? Or should we just put 20% down on property, perhaps a duplex, and just make the minimum payment every month?
If we could could cut our housing costs to near-zero like MMM, we would probably only need about 30K/year to live a very comfortable life. As such, I am trying to figure out how to squeeze maximum value out of the money we'll have saved up by age 40. My wife has a professional skill set that would allow her to easily make some part time income, and I would probably do little things here and there to make money as well. So it's not as if we would need to live entirely off our savings. Up until now, we had always just assumed we'd be retiring "early" at age 50, so we haven't given much thought to actual mechanics of how we would start living off the money we had saved. So now, given that we are looking at retiring in a 4-5 year time horizon, I am trying to get a starting point for thinking about these kind of questions, as well as hear ideas from the community about how best to build upon what we have started and make sound decisions going forward.
Thanks all and I look forward to hearing your responses!
BNY