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Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« on: November 30, 2015, 03:30:40 PM »
I saw the thread about cell phone plans. But I have a particular question. I know pagepluscellular is probably the cheapest, if you never really use a cellphone but just want to have a cellphone with you, pageplus cellular will cost you ONL $2.50 per month.

Truphone is also pretty cheap if you dont talk all the time. One bonus is it allows you to receive calls/texts for free, even if you have zero balance.

The ONLY PROBLEM I have with truphone is the data is extremely expensive at $0.09 per megabyte (9 cents a megabyte).  This is way too expensive and sometimes my phone accidentally uses data somehow and all of a sudden within 30 seconds I lose $5 of my balance.

Are there any other phones with a fair and decent price with data?   

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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 08:14:52 PM »
I saw the thread about cell phone plans. But I have a particular question. I know pagepluscellular is probably the cheapest, if you never really use a cellphone but just want to have a cellphone with you, pageplus cellular will cost you ONL $2.50 per month.

Technically from a pure cost perspective, Truphone is actually the cheapest MVNO available from a minimal monthly usage standpoint as there's no airtime expiration or service fees so long as the account doesn't go idle for longer than 30 or 45 days, IIRC. It's the only MVNO I know of where you can basically make a $10 credit last forever and keep the phone number so long as you received an SMS once a month and don't use it for anything else.

The ONLY PROBLEM I have with truphone is the data is extremely expensive at $0.09 per megabyte (9 cents a megabyte).  This is way too expensive and sometimes my phone accidentally uses data somehow and all of a sudden within 30 seconds I lose $5 of my balance.

Are there any other phones with a fair and decent price with data?

Actually, from a PAYGO standpoint, 9¢/MB isn't a bad rate. P'tel is 10¢/MB with a minimum monthly cost of $5, Airvoice is 6.6¢/MB with a minimum monthly cost of $3.33 minus $1/month service fee, H2O Wireless is 10¢/MB at $3.33/month with their EasyGo sub-brand running 5¢/MB at a minimum of $5/month, and even Page Plus is 10¢/MB at that $2.50/month. For PAYGO data on a low usage plan, it's not a terrible rate.

Also, the math here isn't exactly tallying. $5 in mobile data at 9¢/MB is ~55.56MB at a rate of around 15Mbps. Though T-Mobile's network can do this and better under certain conditions, and I don't know how much throttling happens for Truphone... it's not technically outside the realm, but it's also an insane amount of data for even a smartphone to randomly gobble up in the background the instant it gets internet access. This leads me to wonder one of two things, either you missed a major setting regarding OTA software updates and data backups to be restricted to WiFi only somewhere, or there may be something on your phone doing something that it really shouldn't be. There should be logs indicating how much data the phone has used and what specifically used the data to help button it down.

Excuse the tip#5 bit at the bottom given it's sales copy for Truphone's competitor Knowroaming, but the first four points here are pretty simple and easy to follow for data restriction on both Android and iOS, it's one of the better general data restriction guides I've found.

All that said, if your usage is light enough to justify PAYGO in general (excuse the non-deliberate bursts of data usage), then there's really not going to be a satisfactory solution that's not going to cost you at least $25-30+/month, and large gobs of data usually run about $10/GB with the commitment to pay for "unlimited" talk and text at around $20 a month in order to get that pricing.

Your best and cheapest solution isn't to try and find cheaper data with another carrier, it's to either turn off and never use mobile data at all, or figure out where the leak is coming from and fix it. Spending more money just to accommodate abnormal behavior from your phone is letting your device dictate your spending and usage habits. When that happens, it ceases to be a tool you control and instead becomes a liability that controls you.

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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 08:29:46 PM »
I love my Truphone. I am Cdn and use it when I travel to the US. I absolutely love being able to use data only occasionally and not have to pay a minimum amount. And yet, I can use it if I want it. One weekend trip, I spent under 50cents to have a cell number. A couple of calls, a text or two, and jumping online a couple of times to make dinner reservations. It was fabulous.

And...Truphone customer service has been the absolute best I have ever dealt with. Wow. I have had to call several times and each time they have wowed me. Their call centre are based in the Philippines and have excellent English skills and are super helpful...and follow up!

A fab service if u are looking for wide coverage (they use both At&T and Tmobile), and just need a phone for very occasional use. The no minimum top up is very freeing. Most other plans u have to spend a min of $50-100 a year. Yes I can get cheaper phone/text/data with other plans..
But the min requirements end up eating it all up because I really only use maybe $10+ a year.

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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 08:34:04 PM »
The line rental is $6 and you can get 100 MB for $3 (i.e. 3c/MB), 500 MB for $12 (2.4c/MB) (continues to go down the more you use).

Once you factor taxes, that's no better than P'tel Real PAYGO rates on the low end assuming you use up every last bit of each bucket without going over. 5¢/minute, 2¢/SMS, 10¢/MB for data, 100 of each is $17. Ting's $6+$3+$3+$3 just to get a little of everything for a single line runs $15+tax. Next bucket up for any of those services pops you right up to the $20 threshold, which is where P'tel starts their "unlimited" talk, text and data plans with 250MB of data. Over on Ting, minimal talk and text with 1GB of data runs $31+tax a month, where both P'tel and Airvoice offers "unlimited" talk and text with the same amount of data for $30. Granted, Ting GSM offers T-Mobile partner roaming, but if you need that kind of coverage, you might as well go with an AT&T MVNO.

Ting and Consumer Cellular aren't really bargains for single line accounts when you run the math. Where they save money is through multi-line households.

BUT of course it doesn't allow you to receive calls for free (I assume receiving texts is free? Do we ever get charged for that? Someone correct me if I'm wrong), so that cost might negate the good value of the data.

Truphone is the only US MVNO that provides free incoming minutes and texts. Everyone else charges the same rate for both incoming and outgoing.



And...Truphone customer service has been the absolute best I have ever dealt with. Wow. I have had to call several times and each time they have wowed me. Their call centre are based in the Philippines and have excellent English skills and are super helpful...and follow up!

Either this is new, or it's the luck of the draw. Every time I've talked with someone at Truphone, they've been in London. :)

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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2015, 09:42:24 PM »
Ring plus has free plans... sprint network but decent in my area... I'm in their world hq city

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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2015, 10:40:57 PM »
Your best and cheapest solution isn't to try and find cheaper data with another carrier, it's to either turn off and never use mobile data at all, or figure out where the leak is coming from and fix it. Spending more money just to accommodate abnormal behavior from your phone is letting your device dictate your spending and usage habits. When that happens, it ceases to be a tool you control and instead becomes a liability that controls you.

Thanks everyone. I think your right , truphone is probably actually the best thing for me. one other BIG PROBLEM is with Imessage on IPHONE. Is there a way to make it WIFI only? I looked everywhere in settings, it seems that "imessage" is either on or off. It does not allow you to restrict it to wifi only. So then this makes a problem because if someone sends you a few photos your phone automatically  uses the data whether you open it or not. 
I have lost lots of data due to receiving photos on imessage.
 
the iphone allows you to restrict "facetime" to wifi only, but not "imessage".

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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2015, 10:43:06 PM »
On an iphone it's easy to turn off cellular data.  Just go into Settings > Cellular and there's a toggle for turning on and off cell data.


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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2015, 11:36:51 PM »
On an iphone it's easy to turn off cellular data.  Just go into Settings > Cellular and there's a toggle for turning on and off cell data.

Yes thats correct. But I don't want to turn cellular data off all the time. The iphone also allows you to turn off cellular data for any app and restrict it to WIFI only. However, for some reason, "imessage" is the only app that does not appear on the list.

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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2015, 12:12:38 AM »

On an iphone it's easy to turn off cellular data.  Just go into Settings > Cellular and there's a toggle for turning on and off cell data.

Yes thats correct. But I don't want to turn cellular data off all the time. The iphone also allows you to turn off cellular data for any app and restrict it to WIFI only. However, for some reason, "imessage" is the only app that does not appear on the list.

I use tracfone which has a marginal cost of 1-3 cents per mb but that's only if you buy the data cards after using up the monthly allotment (180mb) on the $20/90 day cards.  So the minimum cost is $6.66/month and you get 180min/180sms/180mb of data for the 90 days.

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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2015, 08:09:12 AM »
one other BIG PROBLEM is with Imessage on IPHONE. Is there a way to make it WIFI only? I looked everywhere in settings, it seems that "imessage" is either on or off. It does not allow you to restrict it to wifi only. So then this makes a problem because if someone sends you a few photos your phone automatically  uses the data whether you open it or not. 
I have lost lots of data due to receiving photos on imessage.

Nope. Call it an Apple klassy tax. <tone="sarcasm">Poor people plans clearly shouldn't be allowed with such a fancy machine, and people are apparently too stupid to be trusted with the option of wanting to deliberately restrict bloated media file transfers via iMessage to WiFi use only, only download when opened, or even possibly provide a file quality setting to restrict/resize on the fly.</tone> To be fair, neither Google Voice or any of the many other balkanized smartphone messaging apps really have those options either, but at least they're not integrated directly into the core SMS/MMS system, can be restricted to WiFi only, and many of them do have more reasonable file size caps.

Given the situation and device, you either need to strategically be connected to WiFi as much of the time as possible to minimize the data dent and just accept the cost of the clown-sized files being sent to you when you're off WiFi, disable mobile data entirely except when you need to use it specifically, psychology hack the biggest offender(s) to email you those photos in the future instead of send via iMessage, or disable iMessage entirely and fall back to SMS/MMS which forces those image files to be gratuitously cut down in size thus dramatically reducing your mobile data burden - but may be a poor choice if it's taking the brunt of your outgoing text costs if most of the people you're texting are on iMessage themselves. Under that circumstance, the iMessage data usage might be cheaper than the increased outbound SMS costs, especially given the two are equal in price, but that's a judgment call. You have to figure out if receiving each (X)MB sized photo (for example) happens less often than sending (X) outbound messages.

This brings us to a final point of consideration, be frugal, not cheap. Don't be afraid to pay for what you actually need, and don't use what you cannot afford. Is it great to get by on just $2-3 of mobile use a month at times? Absolutely! But the savings differential between spending, say $3 and $10 every month is only an extra $84 a year. If you can't justify that additional cost difference, you probably can't actually justify the cost of using a cell phone and likely don't actually need one in the first place. And let's be honest here, nobody actually needs a cellphone - it's a miracle first world convenience that's only existed for a blink of an eye compared to the annals of historical civilization, not a requirement for survival. And even from a first world convenience perspective... only paying an average of $10/month for your mobile phone bill? That's friggin' amazing in a country that averages over $50 a line!
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Re: Any plans cheaper than Truphone?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2015, 08:23:14 AM »

And...Truphone customer service has been the absolute best I have ever dealt with. Wow. I have had to call several times and each time they have wowed me. Their call centre are based in the Philippines and have excellent English skills and are super helpful...and follow up!

Either this is new, or it's the luck of the draw. Every time I've talked with someone at Truphone, they've been in London. :)

Interesting. I always ask where they work (they're very friendly and chatty and there's usually downtime while they solve my problem) and all of them have been in the Philippines so far. I have called maybe 4 times now. Good to know they have reps in London too.