### Author Topic: Calculating The Exact Savings Rate  (Read 1698 times)

#### cforchirivi

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##### Calculating The Exact Savings Rate
« on: September 08, 2017, 10:33:45 PM »
Evening moustachian crew. I would appreciate any insight you could offer on calculating my exact savings rate. I will use this as a starting point to work towards FI.

WEEKLY paycheck includes:
Gross Income - 1,055.39
Federal Income - 129.42
FICA - 80.17
CA SDI Income Tax - 9.43
CA Income Tax - 31.29
401K Contribution - 158.31
401 Employer Match - 42.22
Medical/Dental - 7.58
MONTHLY Total Spending comes out to 2136.49 (working on bringing this down, I promise)
MONTHLY General Savings - 455.00
MONTHLY Roth Ira - 140.00

To complicate things further, I earn a \$500 stipend MONTHLY for an internship. After assuming a 25% tax due to my 2017 tax bracket, the average monthly pay out for 10 months should be 312.50.

Below is my best attempt to follow MMM's formula for figuring out your savings rate.
(1055.39-129.42-80.17-9.43-31.29+158.31+42.22-7.58)*4 weeks of pay = 3992.12 + 312.50 =  "Take Home Pay"
(Take home pay – spending) / (take home pay) = Savings Rate
(4304.62-2136.49)/4304.62 = 50%

As awesome as 50% savings rate sounds, I think I'm doing some math wrong here because there is plenty of room for improvement in my life financially. My questions include the following:
1) MMM states in his article How Rich Are You? that he doesn't count income tax or payroll tax, yet further down the same article he uses Federal and State taxes. I don't know how these differ from the taxes on my paycheck. So should I include the above taxes? And if not, what should I replace them with?
2) Should I add my 401 K contribution like my Employer Match? Or subtract it? I don't consider it an expense as it's an investment but I'm a little unclear here. And it makes a HUGE difference whether I add or subtract it so I want to make sure I get this right.
3) Should I add my medical/dental insurance as it comes in pre tax per my company policy?

#### marty998

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##### Re: Calculating The Exact Savings Rate
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2017, 06:53:53 AM »
No no no no no!!!! To misquote Yogi Berra it's groundhog day all over again!

There's too many variables, and life isn't a perfect mathematical formula (this post written by an extreme INTJ maths nerd).

Your income can go up and down, your expenses can go up and down, the markets can go up and down, taxes can change, government policy can change... there's a hundred other things that can change.

Figure out a ballpark range, once your passive income reaches the level of your expected ER expenses, then you'll know you're ok.

#### Zikoris

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##### Re: Calculating The Exact Savings Rate
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2017, 10:33:15 AM »
For MMM, you use take-home pay, and add in the 401K to both sides of the equation.

(regular savings + 401K contributions and employer match)/(take-home pay + 401K contributions and employer match). You can also do the reverse and get your "spending rate" with (expenses)/(take-home pay + 401k contributions and match), which can be easier to calculate since it requires about two clicks on Mint to get your annual spending.

As far as "How can I possibly be at a 50% savings rate when I have tons of fat in my budget and am not suffering at all?", that's the reality of this whole thing. We're there too, at 60%+, and travel to five or six countries a year, in addition to living in a nice apartment in a great city and having tons of hobbies. It just sort of happens when you optimize the shit out of everything.