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jamesbond007

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Calculating savings rate.
« on: July 23, 2021, 08:22:32 PM »
Do you calculate savings rate based on take home pay or gross pay after subtracting health insurance + taxes?

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Re: Calculating savings rate.
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2021, 08:24:58 PM »
Both?

It really doesn't matter. What matters is your savings vs spending.

If you save $50k and spend $50k, that's not really meaningfully different than making $125k, saving $50k, spending $50k, and spending $25k on taxes.


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Re: Calculating savings rate.
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2021, 09:34:11 PM »
Opinions will differ, but for me the most intuitive approach has always been:

Savings rate = (after tax savings + payroll deduction savings*)/(take home pay + payroll deductions)

*401k/403b/457, HSA, etc.

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Re: Calculating savings rate.
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2021, 10:42:15 AM »
I just base it off gross income, because it's easy :) We currently save 34% of gross income.


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Re: Calculating savings rate.
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2021, 10:55:06 AM »
The only thing that actually matters is that you are consistent within your own calculations so that you can compare your year to year results and set reasonable goals.

For our own purposes, we just compare savings to spending and taxes. It is just a matter of interest, as the first time we looked, it was clear that it came to 50/25/25 (it included self employment taxes, so our effective rate looked high). We don't really do anything with these, as our goal is to use all the available workplace programs, and invest the proceeds from RSUs and ESPP, rather than any number.

For discussion purposes, I can then do some math and convert that information into whatever savings rate someone else has defined. There is another active thread where many people are posting both gross and net and it is interesting to see the difference tax rates via that method.


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Re: Calculating savings rate.
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2021, 04:36:10 PM »

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Re: Calculating savings rate.
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2021, 05:37:46 PM »
Thank you for your opinions. Right now, I am calculating it with my take home + 401K.

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Re: Calculating savings rate.
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2021, 05:39:59 PM »
Ultimately it doesn’t matter, so long as you are honest with yourself. Your retirement won’t change based on which method you use, and if someone decides to nit-pick your method - screw ‘em. 

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2021, 08:29:17 AM »
I calculate SR using income as any payroll $ that ends up in my accounts (checking, saving, 401k, etc), so that's gross income less payroll taxes and health/dental premiums.  If I earn 1k that goes directly into my 401k/HSA/FSA, that's still income.

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2021, 02:09:54 PM »
You can do it however you like, but when the BEA does it they use disposable personal income. Which means the income available to persons for spending or saving. It is equal to personal income less personal current taxes. So if you use that method you can compare your savings rate to the data you see for the national average.

https://www.bea.gov/resources/methodologies/nipa-handbook/pdf/all-chapters.pdf

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Re: Calculating savings rate.
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2021, 05:10:32 PM »
I agree with everyone else. Do it however you want, it doesn't matter except in terms of what you are using it for.