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Bread Makers?
« on: May 18, 2015, 07:49:27 PM »
Hi everyone,
I would like to cut my family's grocer bill a bit by making our bread at home. I am thinking a bread maker purchased from Craig's List might help with that. Many of the models I see new on Amazon seem to have significant reliability issues according to user reviews. Does anyone have recommendations on how to proceed? (We make a lot of whole food meals at home as it is so making bread from scratch is likely to be impractical.)

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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2015, 08:12:08 PM »
http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/2010/02/09/back-to-basics-tips-and-techniques-to-create-a-great-loaf-in-5-minutes-a-day

Making bread is actually quite easy.  I don't like breadmakers, as the bread is not as good.  Thrift stores and Craigslist if you want one, not worth more than $10.

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2015, 10:17:13 PM »
My wife makes/bakes bread from sourdough starter every week. It's pretty simple to get going and even easier to keep up with. I've even helped out on occasion. We figure that a loaf of bread, of much higher quality than anything else we've come to know, costs somewhere around 25 cents in supplies and electricity. If you value your time at exorbitant amounts, then the value of baking your own bread goes down. If you value learning a new skill and having children help out in the kitchen, then the value will go up considerably. Plus, it's nice to know that every ingredient is natural.

A decently inexpensive bread maker may suffice for a while, but sourdough starter was the way to go for us.

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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2015, 09:12:35 AM »
http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/2010/02/09/back-to-basics-tips-and-techniques-to-create-a-great-loaf-in-5-minutes-a-day

Making bread is actually quite easy.  I don't like breadmakers, as the bread is not as good.  Thrift stores and Craigslist if you want one, not worth more than $10.

I bought a breadmaker on sale and have hardly used it.  I just bought this book and agree that bread maker bread is just not that good.  This approach is much easier and quite economical.

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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2015, 09:15:41 AM »
http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/2010/02/09/back-to-basics-tips-and-techniques-to-create-a-great-loaf-in-5-minutes-a-day

Making bread is actually quite easy.  I don't like breadmakers, as the bread is not as good.  Thrift stores and Craigslist if you want one, not worth more than $10.

I bought a breadmaker on sale and have hardly used it.  I just bought this book and agree that bread maker bread is just not that good.  This approach is much easier and quite economical.
Thanks I will look that over.

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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2015, 09:31:00 AM »
I had a breadmaker years ago but eventually got rid of it. It's so much easier to just make no knead bread (google it for recipe). I hate extra appliances cluttering my small kitchen.

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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2015, 09:34:27 AM »
In a family of hungry teenagers a breadmaker can be pretty useful. We would buy our 2 boys a couple of loaves of bread a week and then if they wanted any more they could spend about 3-5 minutes throwing ingredients in the breadmaker and have fresh bread first thing in the morning. We also used it for quick and comparatively cheap gluten free bread (compared with $5-7 for a tiny loaf from the Supermarket)

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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2015, 10:16:35 AM »
I love mine, got it off Kijiji for $20. We use it on average 3 times per week.

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2015, 11:19:13 AM »
I don't eat a lot of bread, but I do use my bread maker to make up a reliable pizza dough.  When I used to make bread, the best part of having the bread maker is being able to run it in the basement rather than heating up the rest of the house in summer.

I think most bread machines have a bake-only setting, so if you had the time you could mix/knead/ferment the dough yourself, and have it do the baking for you.

Not that it's going to come out the same as properly baking it in the oven, but if you just need some passable bread and don't want to think too much about it, or you just don't want to heat your house up in the summer, the bread machine is pretty decent.

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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2015, 11:26:26 AM »
I've used my breadmaker on and off for about fifteen years (my dad was throwing it out when I was in university, as he had been given a new one as a wedding gift).  Yes, granted, I tend to make my own bread from scratch in the oven more often than use the breadmaker these days . . . but every once in a while I'm tired, and want some bread when I come home from work.  Just takes two minutes to set, and you come home to something that works great for sandwiches and grilled cheese.

Get a simple one, and get it cheap (used).

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 03:28:36 PM »
Can anyone recommend cheap reliable models?

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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2015, 04:30:12 PM »
Had a cheapo Oster breadmaker for years but didn't like the square + paddle in the middle loaf. Used it mostly to make dough and transferred it to a french bread mold or loaf pan. Lately, been a fan of the no-knead bread and "high hydration / ferment overnight" type of breads. These taste less yeasty to me and no work at all!

Homemade bread is the best. Good luck!

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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2015, 05:30:40 PM »
I don't like the shape of bread machine bread.  I either make several loaves of my own (freeze before second rise) or I buy bread dough from the bakery. 

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2015, 05:41:28 PM »
try the no knead bread recipe here:

http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/11376-no-knead-bread

i've never bought a book on bread, but I've used recipes from here after trying the jim lahey bread recipe:
http://www.thefreshloaf.com/lessons

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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2015, 05:43:07 PM »
When I make bread--which is not very often, because we can get whole wheat Sarah Lee at the bakery outlet for $1/loaf--I use my Cuisinart to do the kneading. Almost as easy as a breadmaker.

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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2015, 06:16:23 PM »
Can anyone recommend cheap reliable models?

I have this one and got it two years ago from Amazon Warehouse deals. Its holding up fine but I haven't used it as much since I realized I can make the dough way faster in my food processor. I know mixing and kneading dough by hand is not hard but every time I try my bread turns out awful. I've accepted that this is not one of my skills in life.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003GXM0EM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1432080810&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&keywords=bread+machine&dpPl=1&dpID=31yYjv27%2BaL&ref=plSrch

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2015, 06:54:34 PM »
If your goal is to save money, you'll do better by shopping at the day old bread store.  I can buy three loaves of bread for $2 and cookies or other snacks for similar prices.  The place I shop is all of about a mile out of my way as I go to work, and it's such a small place that it takes about ten minutes to get in and out.

In contrast, when I make homemade bread, I usually spend at least that much -- not counting my time. 

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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2015, 07:12:49 PM »
Some people love their breadmakers, and some people hate them. So you can probably get one cheaply from Craigslist from someone who didn't like it and then send it back to Craigslist if you don't like it either.

I don't use the breadmaker often--maybe a few times a year. But I have fun with it and like the bread. My problem is that I can't eat a whole loaf before it gets dry, but now I've started slicing the bread and freezing what I can't eat within a day or two. Hopefully I'll get to use it more often now.

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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2020, 06:24:05 AM »
I haven't noticed much difference between a cheap bread machine and an expensive one.  We've had both.  I really like having one and have a few recipes that we love.  If you are looking to replace sandwich bread, you may find yourself disappointed.  The bread machine loaves are usually square or round and not traditional bread shapes.  Maybe it is me, but I can never seem to slice bread machine bread thin enough for sandwiches.  I usually use it for dinner rolls or for thick bread to go with dinner.

I also keep sourdough starter.  If you are looking for a more traditional sandwich bread, you may want to consider sourdough.  It is really easy and tastes fantastic.  I'll bake up a loaf, slice, and freeze for sandwiches.  I also make sourdough English muffins, and freeze those as well.

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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2020, 08:16:05 AM »
We've had a couple of 5 and $10 dollar yardsale breadmakers over the years.  I agree that the bread isn't generally amazing, but I really like it.  They're dead easy, really cheap, and you can experiment a lot with recipes.  Our latest was a low sugar ginger raisin bread that has been a real hit with our 5 yo daughter.  I'm going to look into some of the other bread recipes referred to here, though, as I love a crusty sourdough.  Thanks!

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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2020, 08:59:41 AM »
I am no expert but every time I use my bread machine the loaf is always dense. If you are looking for a light airy bread like a store bought loaf I have yet to learn the secret. I agree with other posters that there are better ways to make homemade bread to get better results. Nothing like a hand kneaded loaf, it's so relaxing and rewarding to make it by hand. We are also a small family of three and every loaf in the bread machine is huge and we struggle to finish it before it molds.

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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2020, 11:48:39 AM »
I've been making a lot of bread lately and don't use a machine. Just an oven and bread pan. Comes out just fine and doesn't take long at all. Most of the time is just waiting for the dough to rise.

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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2020, 07:47:39 AM »
I am not sure how much it cost originally, but I love my Zojirushi bread maker and make bread twice a week.  It is very easy and only take a few minutes to throw together the ingredients, then I can go about my day.

But I do think it is definitely an individual preference because I got this bread maker for free from a family friend who now prefers to make their own bread.  It is an older model, but I found an identical one on eBay: https://ebay.us/Xm6zj5

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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2022, 12:36:59 PM »
how many are still baking bread at home with COVID-19 easing up?

I'm going almost 8 years with my basic $50 Hamilton Beach model 29882. Been making whole wheat (with/without fresh rosemary), cinnamon raisin (with/without walnuts), cranberry walnut, sundried tomato (with/without sunflower seeds), honey wheat loaves, and pizza dough (white/wheat).

Recently my wife picked up a copy from the library of America's Best Bread Machine Baking Recipes by Donna Washburn and Heather Butt. Made a loaf with eggs. Next is a beer bread recipe (sub the water for beer) using a local dark beer.

I used to bake one every Sunday. But last few weeks have been 2 a week. Tomorrow's bake will be a 3rd for this week. Wife has been sharing with family and some friends visiting.


try the no knead bread recipe here:

http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/11376-no-knead-bread

i've never bought a book on bread, but I've used recipes from here after trying the jim lahey bread recipe:
http://www.thefreshloaf.com/lessons

I tried this in Summer of 2019 and failed. Too warn down here in FL, even with the AC on. Over-proofed it. Came out flattish but a nice crust. Cut slices, soaked overnight, and baked some excellent cinnamon French toast.

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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2022, 12:51:05 PM »
I got my bread machine off Craigslist for $30. I've actually been through three--the first two were ancient castoffs that wore out pretty quick. The latest one was brand new in the box. They are extremely easy to find on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace.

I have the bread machine recipe book by Donna Washburn and Heather Butt mentioned above--I've never had a bad recipe from that, and I've tried many of them. Currently I have the egg bread recipe memorized and make it about once a week for the kids' breakfast toast and grilled cheese. It takes me less the five minutes to throw it together.

Now, I do own a Kitchen Aid stand mixer, and I do make bread with it. But it's more hands-on--I have to time the rise and shape the dough. And no knead is too chewy for my kids' taste. So even though it really isn't difficult to make bread without a bread machine, I don't do it nearly as often as my weekly egg bread loaf that takes only five minutes of hands-on time.

Bread in Hawaii is expensive--even the cheapest, store-brand white bread is $3.50 per loaf. I buy a 50 lb bag of bread flour from Costco for $25 and a 2 lb container of yeast, which I keep in the freezer. The bread is delicious and it comes together quite easily.

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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2022, 12:56:58 PM »
I used this Pullman pan with cover, when I used to eat bread.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TO3CN8

It's still in my kitchen.  Reminds me to sell it because I could probably fetch $15-20 for it used :)
« Last Edit: February 10, 2022, 01:01:49 PM by JenniferW »

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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2022, 01:03:11 PM »
how many are still baking bread at home with COVID-19 easing up?

Over the past two years we've gone through two 45 kg bags of flour and probably 3 lbs of yeast.  Zero breadmaker use though - I have a foolproof method:

I mix the stuff together the night before (3 cups all-purpose flour, 2 cups water, half a tsp yeast, 1 tsp salt) and stick it in the fridge.  Then first thing in the morning I take it out, quickly knead in a little more flour (no more than half a cup), stick it in a greased pan for an hour or two to rise, and then pop it in the oven.  Set the oven to 425, and your timer to 40 minutes.  Then let it heat up with the bread inside, you've got fresh awesome bread.

The long slow rise in the fridge really improves flavour.  It has kinda spoiled me for other bread.  Sometimes I get fancy and swap a cup of flour for a cup of buttermilk pancake mix, which is also tasty but slightly different flavoured loaf.

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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2022, 07:14:34 PM »
I got this one recently and really like it. I would say the bread isn't quite as fancy as when I was into baking totally from scratch sourdough, but it is so quick and easy to use that it's worth it to me. It was also only $50 when I got it last November though, not sure why the price has gone up. My only complaint is that it takes up a chunk of counter space.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-2-lb-Digital-Bread-Maker-Model-29881/16503557?athbdg=L1600

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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2022, 08:29:14 PM »
I've had bread makers before and don't really like them, for reasons listed above, plus I like to make bigger batches.  I make bread and pizza dough every week with my stand mixer though.

Simple bread/ pizza dough:
Place in mixer in this order.
2 cup warm ish water.
4.5 tsp dry yeast (I buy the 2lbs brick, lasts forever in the fridge)
About 7 cups flour (less if using whole wheat or mixing in other stuff)
2 tsp salt (add after flour or it will kill your yeast)

Mix on speed 2 until dough forms into a ball. Add little bits of flour or water at a time until it looks right.
Let rise until it doubles (about an hour but can take longer if the kitchen is cold or if using whole wheat). It won't hurt it to sit longer if you have something else to do.
Punch down and reshape into a ball and divide into two portions.
You have some choices now:
-roll it out for pizza dough, add toppings, and bake immediately (about 20 min at 450)
-shape into loaves and let rise again until they double,  then bake (450 for 15-20 min or until it smells done and sounds hollow when tapped- I am horrid at writing recipes).
-put one in the fridge for later. When you get it out let it sit on the counter for a couple hours then shape and let rise until it doubles, or roll out for pizza

Once you have the basics down feel free to experiment!!!
To make a fluffier loaf I've found the best thing is to replace about 1/2 cup flour with chia seeds-still playing around with quantity there. You will need to add extra water and the dough will be sticky,  but the bread turns out fluffier and a little crunchy. I've also mixed in oats, flax seeds, corn meal, herbs, all kinds of stuff.
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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2022, 08:43:02 AM »
LOL - I learned to bake bread in 4H in 1964! I’ve baked it regularly ever since.

I do have a thrift store bread machine which is nice for summer when I don’t want to turn the oven on, but usually I’m just baking old favorites the old fashioned way.

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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2022, 01:49:29 PM »
how many are still baking bread at home with COVID-19 easing up?

I'm still making mostly-whole-wheat sourdough 2-3 times a month.  Usually also knead in some pumpkin seeds. I don't knead all that much. Mix, wait 30 minutes, knead, leave covered for 8-12 hours, bake.

12 heaping spoonfuls of King Arthur WW flour
9 heaping spoonfuls of KA bread flour
~1C sourdough starter
Water as needed
Pumpkin seeds
Maybe some raisins

I feed the starter with 2 heaping spoonfuls of each flour and water as needed.

It's the larger size spoon that came with the stainless flatware set my parents gave us ~30 years ago.

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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2022, 11:06:22 AM »
how many are still baking bread at home with COVID-19 easing up?

I baked bread out of necessity when it was unavailable in stores. Went through about 100 lbs of flour because the teenagers LOVED homemade bread and ate way more of it than of store bread. Once supplies in stores stabilized, I went back to buying it. I would have needed 3 or 4 bread machines to keep up with the demand, so I used the artisan bread in 5 minutes book.

Now we're empty nesters and I'm back to baking. I use the stand mixer, which makes for very little work, and better and more consistent results than I ever got kneading by hand. I've been using this recipe, but without the heated bowl--I just warm the bowl with water before I start and let the dough rise in the oven with the light on.
https://www.yummly.com/recipe/Honey-Wheat-Bread-with-Oats-2139522?prm-v1=1

 

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