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Being homeless on purpose for a week
« on: July 03, 2015, 04:22:15 AM »
I recently came across an article of a woman in the USA becoming homeless on purpose.

She was college educated, an intelligent woman but she became homeless for months... on purpose. She wanted to do it.

http://www.xojane.com/issues/i-became-homeless-on-purpose-to-overcome-my-fear-of-failure

This got me thinking and very interested. What if I tried being homeless, begging on the city streets, sleeping on park benches with nothing but a set of old clothes and a blanket.

What would the experience teach me? What would I gain out of it? Would sure make for an interesting story when I get older.

Thoughts?


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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2015, 04:49:57 AM »
My thoughts are this: being homeless on purpose and knowing you have a good home and safety net to fall back on is not ever going to teach someone what it REALLY feels like to be homeless. If you really want to know what it's like to be homeless, ask people who are homeless.

I see a lot of homeless people on the streets and would feel humiliated having to beg for money and the lack of basic hygiene and comfort. However, I do appreciate the minimalist movement and being able to travel and live out of a back pack and having all the time in the world. I think living with less will help people be more grateful what they do have and a better understanding of their priorities. It would be like a material things vacation.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2015, 05:32:29 AM »
Buddhist monks and those in training have done something similar forever. While not technically homeless, they do "beg" for food and necessities. It's a fantastic method for teaching humbleness.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2015, 06:44:26 AM »
Interesting article: she did it for 4 months, right?

I think it was better for her children not to subject them to the streets, but I also think that having that support network "I went home to regroup" and "my kids were staying with my ex" meant that the biggest stressors for living on the street were taken care of.

I think everyone should know themselves at a core level, and know that they 'can' deal with it.

Whatever it becomes. Homeless. Jobless. Whatever.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2015, 08:10:48 AM »
I wouldn't feel right about asking for money when I had put myself in that situation voluntarily. And if you use shelters and soup kitchens you are taking resources away from someone else in need.

And I have a willingness to pay for decent shelter. Being super frugal does not mean "spend the absolute minimum possible". It's about rethinking what you do spend on to maximize your actual happiness. For me, I am fine with going to work for the relatively small amount of time it takes to provide an inexpensive shelter, electricity, Internet, etc.

But I could see how living without any material possessions beyond what you had on your person could be a liberating experience for people (although I would *not* recommend anyone actually try it). You really don't need all that much to sustain life.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2015, 08:29:12 AM »
I wouldn't feel right about asking for money when I had put myself in that situation voluntarily. And if you use shelters and soup kitchens you are taking resources away from someone else in need.

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In the city where I live, shelter space is extremely limited. I would feel horrible taking resources from some who actually needed them.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2015, 08:30:05 AM »
My thoughts are this: being homeless on purpose and knowing you have a good home and safety net to fall back on is not ever going to teach someone what it REALLY feels like to be homeless. If you really want to know what it's like to be homeless, ask people who are homeless.

I see a lot of homeless people on the streets and would feel humiliated having to beg for money and the lack of basic hygiene and comfort. However, I do appreciate the minimalist movement and being able to travel and live out of a back pack and having all the time in the world. I think living with less will help people be more grateful what they do have and a better understanding of their priorities. It would be like a material things vacation.

I was about to write the exact same thing.  You'll never know how being homeless REALLY feels until you have no other options.  No one to turn to for help.  No way to get nice clothes to look for a job, no way to know when your next meal will be, etc., etc.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2015, 08:35:08 AM »
People that work and make responsible decisions do so because they DON'T want to be homeless. Therefore, pretending to be homeless seems to be a meaningless endeavor.

Our city has a "homeless day" once a year where a few known business people and social activists sleep in a tent for a night to "experience" homelessness. Of course, it always takes place in pleasant weather and they all camp out together, which is as far from homeless as it gets. It's the equivalent of someone's kids "camping" in their own back yard.

What is always overlooked during these feel-good events is that none of the business people involved have ever offered a homeless person a job, and none of the social activists do anything other than complain that everyone else isn't doing enough.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2015, 08:49:54 AM »
My thoughts are this: being homeless on purpose and knowing you have a good home and safety net to fall back on is not ever going to teach someone what it REALLY feels like to be homeless. If you really want to know what it's like to be homeless, ask people who are homeless.

I see a lot of homeless people on the streets and would feel humiliated having to beg for money and the lack of basic hygiene and comfort. However, I do appreciate the minimalist movement and being able to travel and live out of a back pack and having all the time in the world. I think living with less will help people be more grateful what they do have and a better understanding of their priorities. It would be like a material things vacation.

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Camping out in a city is easy.  Even going without bathing can be done. It's the "oh shit I've failed at life got zero support or prospects and people think I'm a POS" angst that can't be replicated.  Not even joining begging monastic orders can replicate that.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2015, 09:12:23 AM »
If you do try being homeless be careful, it will depend what area you are in but street culture (the rules and consequences people on the street live by) can be very different than anything you've likely been exposed to.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2015, 10:30:07 AM »
Her article is frustrating scarce on details, but it sounds like any money she was given went towards a 'rental assistance grant' that she gave away. I agree, though, that taking money or resources under false pretences is extremely unethical. I do think something could be gained from sleeping on the streets for a period of time (it wouldn't be true homelessness but you would have to depend on what you could carry and would have little to entertain/distract you) - a sort of urban version of survival camping.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2015, 10:50:34 AM »
This kind of reminds me of those experiments where white people try to be black for a day, or men try to be women for a day, to see if they're treated any differently. Totally bogus. And  sensationalistic. Try a lifetime of  really living in someone else's shoes, then you'll see. Pretending to be something you're not temporarily won't really offer any sort of real experience, since you know you can just switch the experiment off at any time. The experimental factor in and of itself makes the experience less than real.

Agree with the poster above, that the best way to find out is to ask someone who's lived as a homeless person, and then listen, rather than judge or guess what it's like.

I know people who've lived in a van for a while to save money, which was also partly just a personal challenge to see what's possible for them. They weren't just looking for a story to tell, once they got back to their comfortable lives. I guess it all depends what your motives are.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2015, 10:57:53 AM »
There is a book called Scratch Beginnings by Adam Shepard where he did just that.

He was fresh out of college and set off with nothing but a backpack with a sleeping bag, $25 in cash, and his driver's license.  His goal was to be gainfully employed and living in an apartment with a roommate at the end of the year.  It was a really interesting read, although I agree that being homeless by choice and being homeless because you have no other options are two different things. 

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2015, 02:37:00 PM »
There is a book called Scratch Beginnings by Adam Shepard where he did just that.

He was fresh out of college and set off with nothing but a backpack with a sleeping bag, $25 in cash, and his driver's license.  His goal was to be gainfully employed and living in an apartment with a roommate at the end of the year.  It was a really interesting read, although I agree that being homeless by choice and being homeless because you have no other options are two different things. 

Having youth, mental health, a college degree, no substance abuse issues, and no criminal record are pretty different than your typical homeless person.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2015, 03:16:50 PM »
I recently came across an article of a woman in the USA becoming homeless on purpose.

She was college educated, an intelligent woman but she became homeless for months... on purpose. She wanted to do it.

http://www.xojane.com/issues/i-became-homeless-on-purpose-to-overcome-my-fear-of-failure

This got me thinking and very interested. What if I tried being homeless, begging on the city streets, sleeping on park benches with nothing but a set of old clothes and a blanket.

What would the experience teach me? What would I gain out of it? Would sure make for an interesting story when I get older.

Thoughts?

Waste of your time and also the waste of time of everyone you meet on the streets.

As a dillatentte, slumming it, the only thing you will gain is a sore back from not having a comfy bed for the night.

As for exposing how shitty it is for the homeless, George Orwell beat you to it by writing about it in the 1930's.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2015, 06:48:37 AM »
Trying out being homeless could be a valuable learning experience, but you could raise your awareness in other ways, even if we don't fully understand unless we walk in their shoes for real.

My parents had a way of helping others that cracked my eyes open a little bit. A woman who used to work for my mother's family came to live with us when I was a baby and stayed with us for the rest of her life. One time fter she died, my mother brought home a homeless woman and took care of her for a couple of weeks. Another time, my parents took in a homeless teenager and my father gave him a job at the family business. My parents taught us children to be very hardworking, but to understand that misfortune can hit anyone.

One of the scariest times in my life was when I couldn't find a job. It lasted for years. So many job applications... so many rejections... so much debt. My parents helped us get by. In my retirement, I would like to help others who can't find work. Years ago, I learned to teach English as a second language; it might be good for me to go back to that.

I'm not sure why, but the original post reminded me of the book, The Yearling, in which a boy makes a series of choices that threaten his family's food supply, a vegetable garden. Oh, I see, I guess I did that, too. Thank you, MMM, for helping me learn how to reverse my fortunes. It's time now to plant my vegetable garden. (Sometimes I'm such a dope.)

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2015, 08:52:17 AM »
I worry about you, Kiwi Mustache. I know you're young and experimenting with different approaches to life, but reading your regular posts suggest to me you're not thinking before posting, and hurtling from idea to idea with break neck speed.

Homelessness is a serious issue. I spent the morning working at a shelter as I do every week, and I know without asking that everyone of those good people there would swap to be in your shoes in a heartbeat. Don't make a mockery out of them. If you do want to hear how hard it is to make ends meet, or decide between food & shelter, or how to while away the hours with no resources, I suggest you volunteer or make friends with the needy. No need to turn it into a personal experiment. (Please note, I haven't read the article. I suspect it will make me sad.)

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2015, 09:34:18 AM »
I think you all are giving less credence to the idea than it might merit.

Regarding the taking away resources from someone who needs it/taking money when you voluntarily put yourself in that situation: I 100% agree, but I think that can easily be mitigated by donating 2x what you get, or whatever.

 Regarding the idea that you won't truly know what it's like to be there for real, with no safety net: I 100% agree. It'd be totally different.

The above criticisms/drawbacks are all true.

But what sort of positives can be gained?  That's what's being glossed over.  Humbleness. Empathy. Walking in someone else's shoes, even if imperfectly and not exactly. A better understanding of people.

I don't think it's the best way to go about this, but it's an exercise perhaps worth contemplating for awhile, even if not doing, and then trying to see how you might get some of those benefits in other ways.
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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2015, 10:47:46 AM »
Our city has a "homeless day" once a year where a few known business people and social activists sleep in a tent for a night to "experience" homelessness. Of course, it always takes place in pleasant weather and they all camp out together, which is as far from homeless as it gets. It's the equivalent of someone's kids "camping" in their own back yard.

What is always overlooked during these feel-good events is that none of the business people involved have ever offered a homeless person a job, and none of the social activists do anything other than complain that everyone else isn't doing enough.

See, they're doing it wrong. What they should do is freeze those people's bank accounts (so they can't use ATMs) and then drop them off in a different city at least a hundred miles away with nothing but the clothes on their back, then tell them "you can resume your normal life when you make it back here yourself."

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2015, 01:05:45 PM »
Yeah, I can see the value of seeing how others live. I was just watching the Belize episode (last link) and thought it related to this.

Brit lives in Indian slums for a week or two (parts 1 and 2):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im0tHRs9Bng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPANDq-XOEs

Brit visits British family living on their own jungle home in Belize:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzzfmegqt9I

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2015, 04:38:24 PM »
I recently came across an article of a woman in the USA becoming homeless on purpose.

She was college educated, an intelligent woman but she became homeless for months... on purpose. She wanted to do it.

http://www.xojane.com/issues/i-became-homeless-on-purpose-to-overcome-my-fear-of-failure

This got me thinking and very interested. What if I tried being homeless, begging on the city streets, sleeping on park benches with nothing but a set of old clothes and a blanket.

What would the experience teach me? What would I gain out of it? Would sure make for an interesting story when I get older.

Thoughts?

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2015, 04:54:35 PM »
I mean, sure, walk a mile in someone's shoes. And well, you still really don't know exactly how they feel because you know it's only a mile and you always knew you could take them off. But you can never really understand someone else by that reasoning, So better to walk a mile than not at all.

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Re: Being homeless on purpose for a week
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2015, 09:06:34 PM »
The responses to this inquiry seem a little mean spirited. I don't think the OP is looking to take food from a person in need or "play poverty" for the purpose of mocking others.

Personally, I think it's a great idea. I lived in my car for a summer when I was much younger. I didn't take away social services from needy people, but did get a real sense of gratitude for the basics in life.

I also drove around the country and lived the vagabond life. Again, without the intent of mocking those who live in poverty but to test my own capacity to face challenges.

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