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small raise: 401k or Vanguard Roth IRA?
« on: March 31, 2016, 07:53:11 AM »
My husband received a small raise (another $150-200 per paycheck). Should I increase his 401k contribution or put it into my Roth IRA that's through Vanguard?

His 401k is through fidelity, fees are a little over 2%.

I feel like it's a no-brainer and that vanguard wins, but everywhere I keep reading to max out the 401k first.
We are never close to maxing it out and put in between 7k and 8k a year (I change the percentage every other month depending on how we're doing as a family.) I put between $50-100/month into my Roth IRA, again, depending on the family budget.


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Re: small raise: 401k or Vanguard Roth IRA?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2016, 08:02:12 AM »
Advice to max out 401k first is wrong. From the Bogleheads wiki:

Here is a general account funding priority that often works well for many people (not all points will apply to everyone):

1. Contribute to the work-based plan (401(k), 403b,) enough to get the full employer match (the match is like free money, your best possible investment)
2. Pay off high interest debt (a guaranteed high return, the next best thing to free money)
3. Contribute to a Health Savings Account (HSA) if available (unlike many other tax deductions, there are no income restrictions to contribute to an HSA)
4. Contribute the maximum to an IRA, traditional or Roth, depending on eligibility and personal circumstances
5. Contribute the remainder of the maximum employee contribution to the work-based plan
6. Contribute to a taxable investing account or use the backdoor Roth technique
7. Non-deductible IRAs or annuities

If the company plan offers good, low-cost funds, it may be preferable to contribute to the company plan before contributing to an IRA.

An investor's tax bracket may influence the decision as well: those in higher tax brackets should consider higher contributions to a tax-deferred plan (e.g. traditional 401(k) or IRA) rather than a post-tax plan (e.g. Roth 401(k) or IRA); see Traditional versus Roth for more guidance.

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Re: small raise: 401k or Vanguard Roth IRA?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2016, 08:19:02 AM »
Thank you, this makes good sense.

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Re: small raise: 401k or Vanguard Roth IRA?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 08:24:01 AM »
How do you have 2% fees at Fidelity? Are there any other funds you can choose?

My 401k is with Fidelity as well. This is what I have:

Spartan® 500 Index Fund - Fidelity Advantage Class
Symbol: FUSVX
Expense Ratio: 0.07%

Spartan® Extended Market Index Fund - Fidelity Advantage Class
Symbol: FSEVX
Expense Ratio: 0.07%

Fidelity® Capital & Income Fund
Symbol: FAGIX
Expense Ratio: 0.72%

I should probably reallocate the last one to an index...

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Re: small raise: 401k or Vanguard Roth IRA?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2016, 08:39:48 AM »
My fidelity accounts (via 401k at work) are now in Vanguard.   Fidelity rolls them over automatically once you qualify for the better shares.

The lion's share of my savings goes into the 401k, and a little into Roth.   But, I don't need access to the Roth for a long time, so I'm not terribly worried about it.  Any further increases go into Roth first.

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Re: small raise: 401k or Vanguard Roth IRA?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 08:46:04 AM »
JLee,
Honestly, I don't know. He's in some Model Portfolio and I just assumed it was good.
Ha.
I will poke around more and try to change some things.