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am i being greedy at work?
« on: March 15, 2016, 11:43:44 AM »
I am mad that my work decided to reduce pay incentive yet is begging staff to pick up extra during spring break while continuing to hire contracted travelers at a much higher pay. It is beautiful weather out right now and I don't "need" the extra money, although I have a ways to go before being FI. Should I just relax this week and take a stand against decreasing incentive pay while under-staffing the unit or just be glad I still have some pay incentive and continue to further my FI goals?

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2016, 11:49:28 AM »
Is the extra work optional?  If so, is the incentive pay worth it to you?

Yes/No - Fuck it
Yes/Yes - Do it
No/Yes - Do it
No/No - Look for a new job

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2016, 11:54:04 AM »
The extra work is optional. I'm not sure the incentive pay is worth it because I would rather say "fuck it" just to the fact that work is trying to reduce the pay incentive. :-)

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2016, 12:30:48 PM »
what is the pay incentive for (holidays, certain hours of the day, overtime for 40+)?

and what are they reducing it to?

by going to work every day you are telling the world that you believe it is worth trading your time for your normal hourly pay
Therefore if you have extra time then you should definitely pick up incentiveised shifts for normal pay + incentives

I really doubt your relaxing week in protest will be noticed in the slightest...
Unless you idea of relaxing is standing outside your work protesting incentive decreases.

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2016, 12:42:24 PM »
The pay incentive decrease would only amount to $60 less for a 12 hour shift. I still get overtime pay (time + 1/2) for over 40 hours, and the extra for night shift and location, etc. I guess I should take the opportunity for extra work since I didn't plan anything except non-profit hobbies this week. I would never plan to actively protest my job unless I was fully FI. I was just planning on taking the passive-aggresive route.

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2016, 12:45:05 PM »
The pay incentive decrease would only amount to $60 less for a 12 hour shift. I still get overtime pay (time + 1/2) for over 40 hours, and the extra for night shift and location, etc. I guess I should take the opportunity for extra work since I didn't plan anything except non-profit hobbies this week. I would never plan to actively protest my job unless I was fully FI. I was just planning on taking the passive-aggresive route.

The passive-aggressive route never plays out well. 
If the money is worth it to you, do the extra shift.  Otherwise, 'opt out' - especially since you say it's optional. 
Pay doesnt' always go up - that's another great reason to be FI as quickly as possible.

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2016, 01:06:03 PM »
The pay incentive decrease would only amount to $60 less for a 12 hour shift. I still get overtime pay (time + 1/2) for over 40 hours, and the extra for night shift and location, etc. I guess I should take the opportunity for extra work since I didn't plan anything except non-profit hobbies this week. I would never plan to actively protest my job unless I was fully FI. I was just planning on taking the passive-aggresive route.

I guess I'm saying that no one on the other side will notice your passive-aggresive behavior... they will just think you already had plans those days... so why do it?

If you will get more money than normal pay and you don't think it will cause any other side effects like work burnout then I would take the extra shifts for sure

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2016, 01:40:49 PM »
They want you to do more work for less pay, and you think *you* are the one being greedy?

Make the decision based on what you want more right now:  the money or the free time. If it's the time, just say, "Sorry, I already have plans." You don't have to justify having other plans, whether they involve something noble or just lying on the couch eating ice cream.

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2016, 02:02:10 PM »
Depends what else you plan to do with the time off. Will you sit at home being bored or take advantage of the time off going to like the Houston rodeo or something? If you don't "need" the time off, I'd work. Heck I'm picking up extra shifts this month despite that I'll probably save 20k this month and 15k+ next month. Averaging around 65 hours/week. That's just how I've always been though. I'm 27 and just so used to working a lot. When I don't i tend to spend more money anyways. If I lived somewhere I enjoyed a bit more maybe it'd be different.

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2016, 03:31:59 PM »
The pay incentive decrease would only amount to $60 less for a 12 hour shift. I still get overtime pay (time + 1/2) for over 40 hours, and the extra for night shift and location, etc. I guess I should take the opportunity for extra work since I didn't plan anything except non-profit hobbies this week. I would never plan to actively protest my job unless I was fully FI. I was just planning on taking the passive-aggresive route.
I wouldn't go passive aggressive.

Personally, it wouldn't be worth it to me, but then, I have better things to be doing with my time.  If they are hiring contractors and paying them more?

Pay the contractors then.  But I would make it clear that it's why you aren't working more.  But in a nice way.  "Well, let me think about it.  You know, normally I'd be happy to help out and work extra - you need the help, I like the money.  But with the decrease in incentive pay, it's becoming less worth it to me to pull the extra shifts.  Especially considering how much more you are paying the contractors.  If you'd like me to pick up the extra shifts - bring the extra incentives back."

My company did something similar.  We had times when we were on call, and managed to get a flat fee per shift that you were on call.  We also had engineers on shift, and I fought really hard to get them a shift differential.  Over the space of a few years of cost-cutting, they got rid of the shift differential for exempt employees, but not the shift.  So they were still working nights, but not getting paid for it.

Amazing that when someone else went on vacation - we weren't able to get another engineer to agree to cover that shift.  When stuff broke on weekends, nobody was willing to come it.  We had 7 junior engineers take off for a 3 day weekend to go backpacking, and the management freaked the fuck out.  Like, "What if there is an EMERGENCY!!!"  Well, thing is, the 7 guys had 5 different bosses, and all of them got Friday approved off, and they don't work Sat/Sun normally.  You can't do anything.

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Re: am i being greedy at work?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2016, 03:35:48 PM »
The pay incentive decrease would only amount to $60 less for a 12 hour shift. I still get overtime pay (time + 1/2) for over 40 hours, and the extra for night shift and location, etc. I guess I should take the opportunity for extra work since I didn't plan anything except non-profit hobbies this week. I would never plan to actively protest my job unless I was fully FI. I was just planning on taking the passive-aggresive route.
I wouldn't go passive aggressive.

Personally, it wouldn't be worth it to me, but then, I have better things to be doing with my time.  If they are hiring contractors and paying them more?

Pay the contractors then.  But I would make it clear that it's why you aren't working more.  But in a nice way.  "Well, let me think about it.  You know, normally I'd be happy to help out and work extra - you need the help, I like the money.  But with the decrease in incentive pay, it's becoming less worth it to me to pull the extra shifts.  Especially considering how much more you are paying the contractors.  If you'd like me to pick up the extra shifts - bring the extra incentives back."

My company did something similar.  We had times when we were on call, and managed to get a flat fee per shift that you were on call.  We also had engineers on shift, and I fought really hard to get them a shift differential.  Over the space of a few years of cost-cutting, they got rid of the shift differential for exempt employees, but not the shift.  So they were still working nights, but not getting paid for it.

Amazing that when someone else went on vacation - we weren't able to get another engineer to agree to cover that shift.  When stuff broke on weekends, nobody was willing to come it.  We had 7 junior engineers take off for a 3 day weekend to go backpacking, and the management freaked the fuck out.  Like, "What if there is an EMERGENCY!!!"  Well, thing is, the 7 guys had 5 different bosses, and all of them got Friday approved off, and they don't work Sat/Sun normally.  You can't do anything.

(chuckles)

Company deserves it!