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Title: 401K - pre and post tax employer match
Post by: Cervelo123 on November 23, 2014, 11:14:57 AM
I was reading my benefits information again and just realized that my employer not only matches pre-tax contributions, but ALSO post tax spillover contributions.   They contribute $2 for my $1, up to 3% of base pay - for both pre AND post tax.  I already max out my 401K yearly pre tax contribution, but now I'm considering upping my contribution so I at least get their matching dollars for the 3% post tax.

I currently dump all my contributions into the Vanguard VTSAX option they provide us, and all my contributions are immediately vested.
I also already max out my yearly ROTH contribution as well into VTSAX.

3% Post tax, I would be looking at ~$208/monthly contribution and then my employer kicking in  another ~$416/month. 

Is this a wise move to add the post tax contribution so I get the employer 3% match?   Is it as straight forward as I think it is?



Title: Re: 401K - pre and post tax employer match
Post by: wtjbatman on November 23, 2014, 11:47:41 AM
I was reading my benefits information again and just realized that my employer not only matches pre-tax contributions, but ALSO post tax spillover contributions.   They contribute $2 for my $1, up to 3% of base pay - for both pre AND post tax.  I already max out my 401K yearly pre tax contribution, but now I'm considering upping my contribution so I at least get their matching dollars for the 3% post tax.

I currently dump all my contributions into the Vanguard VTSAX option they provide us, and all my contributions are immediately vested.
I also already max out my yearly ROTH contribution as well into VTSAX.

3% Post tax, I would be looking at ~$208/monthly contribution and then my employer kicking in  another ~$416/month. 

Is this a wise move to add the post tax contribution so I get the employer 3% match?   Is it as straight forward as I think it is?

Do they really match 3% of after-tax contributions IN ADDITION to 3% of pre-tax? And if so, why are you even asking if it's a wise move? Of course it is! Free money is free money.

I just keep feeling like they mean they match 3% of one or the other, not both. But obviously you have the benefits information in front of you, I don't :)
Title: Re: 401K - pre and post tax employer match
Post by: ZiziPB on November 24, 2014, 08:14:29 AM
You may be misreading the matching info.  My employer also matches both pre-tax and post-tax contributions but the overall match limit applies. My match is dollar for dollar up to 6%.  So in my case, I get the match equal to 6% of my base (salary plus bonus) each pay period as long as I contribute at least 6% of my own salary (on a pre- or post-tax basis) during that pay period.  In my case I reached the IRS max of $17,500 a while ago but I continue to contribute on a post-tax basis through the end of the year.  My employer continues the matching 6% contributions as long as I continue to contribute at least 6%.

I suspect your program works the same with the 3% limit being the aggregate annual cap.
Title: Re: 401K - pre and post tax employer match
Post by: planner10 on February 10, 2015, 11:42:15 PM
Agree with zizipb. Also note that even when the match applies to both Roth and traditional 401ks, the employer match goes into a traditional 401k fund, regardless. This is not well known.