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MrsW

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401K Options
« on: March 23, 2015, 10:34:28 AM »
hi all!

I've been reading the site/ forum for a few months now and decided to dig into the wealth and knowledge here to ask a few questions and get your input. I'm trying to rebalance my 401k and these are the options available -- took a couple snaps in attachments. What would you suggest? which ones are the best funds? Currently I have the Lifepath 2050 fund and the company's stock fund. Thanks to all in advance for the advice!

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Re: 401K Options
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 11:24:19 AM »
Well, on the face of it that fund seems just fine.

If you wanted to get a bit more optimized you could figure out the stock/bond split from that and use the S&P 500 fund and the vanguard bond fund to get the same asset allocation with slightly better MER. But those MERs look great for the lifepath funds.

What is the "company's stock fund" where is it on the list?

MrsW

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Re: 401K Options
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 12:02:32 PM »
thanks DividendMan! here's the info for the company stock fund. It's been doing well the last few year but it's too risky to continue with it so I'd like to switch out of it.


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1 yr 3.66% 3 yr 4.18% 5 yr 17.40%  10 yr 15.02% -- -- gross expense ratio 0.0096%

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Re: 401K Options
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 12:25:09 PM »
That is a fantastic expense ratio on the target date/lifepath funds. If I was you I would simply rebalance out of the company stock fund and go 100% into the lifepath fund that fits your desired AA (2050?).

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Re: 401K Options
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 12:50:43 PM »
Yeah company stock funds are way too risky.

Many of my friends lost a LOT of money when HPQ tanked and they had most (if not all) of the 401k balance in the stock!

Generally don't buy individual stocks.. stick with ETF type investments and ride for the long term.

MrsW

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Re: 401K Options
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 01:20:48 PM »
we plan on FIRE in about 15 years at the max. They automatically gave me the 2050 lifepath fund when I started with the company. would you do a 2030 or 2040? what do you suggest? thanks again!

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2015, 01:38:24 PM »
Tough to say for sure since we don't know more about your situation. Do you currently have any other savings? Own any real estate?

Going with the assumption that you have no other savings and this is your primary retirement vehicle, I would do the following in your shoes:

- Read this: http://jlcollinsnh.com/2012/05/12/stocks-part-vi-portfolio-ideas-to-build-and-keep-your-wealth/
             - As well as the other articles on his site. Great advice overall.

- I generally keep my savings in two funds the VTSAX (Vanguard Total Market Index) and the VTIAX (Vanguard Total International Market Index) at an approximately 80% - 20% allocation. I differ from the author of the previous website a bit in this aspect as he doesn't keep any investments in International Stocks. I do not keep any investments in bonds currently, but if I were closer to retirement age I would suggest adding
VBTLX (Vanguard Total Bond Fund) which is available in your 401K plan.

- It appears that you may be just starting out as an investor and as such, I would suggest keeping it simple. The closest fund to the VTSAX in your 401K plan is the S&P 500 Index. I would put everything into their until you have a more sizeable sum of money. Again, if you are closer to retirement age you could put 80% in the S&P index and the rest in the Vanguard Total Bond Fund.

- Or you could keep it in the Lifepath fund as others have suggested. That seems like a worthy option as well. The only problem I have with those funds is they general put more money in bonds than I would prefer personally.

- Don't ever pull the money out or try to time the market. Keep investing when the market goes down. By doing this you will be ahead of a vast majority of investors.

These are just my thoughts (And I am definitely not a financial advisor), I am sure others will have different opinions, but in general indexing and diversification are the way to go. This exposes you to a lot of stocks with low fees.

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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 02:24:50 PM »
If it were me ( I'm 46 years old)

50% s&p index
20% small cap index
30% total bond index

Diversification is always smart