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Young People Making Mistakes That Old People Stopped Making
« on: March 07, 2019, 08:18:25 PM »
To go along with the other thread that was started:

https://spectator.org/millennial-repo-car-loan-defaults-on-the-rise/

It's almost as if these kids don't have as much life experience as their elders.

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Re: Young People Making Mistakes That Old People Stopped Making
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2019, 05:27:48 AM »
That reminds me of my generation (Gen X) and the Boomers complaining years ago about Millennials recording their mistakes on social media for posterity. Usually someone would speak up and remind everyone of the stupid things we did, and how we were just lucky that there weren't cell phone cameras and ubiquitous social media. 

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2019, 10:29:40 AM »
Aside from the nonsense the author tried to insert about blaming the rising cost of average cars on increased gov regulation (while simultaneously acknowledging that engines that don’t melt down is a good thing), there is an interesting point about people simply buying too much car. The point I take away for this is that we probably need to rethink 6-year car loans.

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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2019, 10:33:28 AM »
That reminds me of my generation (Gen X) and the Boomers complaining years ago about Millennials recording their mistakes on social media for posterity. Usually someone would speak up and remind everyone of the stupid things we did, and how we were just lucky that there weren't cell phone cameras and ubiquitous social media.

My dad (aging boomer) got all worked up last year about news reports of kids eating tide pods.  He had this whole rant about how kids today are so stupid and society is doomed.  I had to remind him that one of his childhood friends died from huffing gasoline.

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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2019, 12:17:44 PM »
That reminds me of my generation (Gen X) and the Boomers complaining years ago about Millennials recording their mistakes on social media for posterity. Usually someone would speak up and remind everyone of the stupid things we did, and how we were just lucky that there weren't cell phone cameras and ubiquitous social media.

My dad (aging boomer) got all worked up last year about news reports of kids eating tide pods.  He had this whole rant about how kids today are so stupid and society is doomed.  I had to remind him that one of his childhood friends died from huffing gasoline.

"These damn youngsters are stupid and have no respect!"  At least one unknown Mesopotamian author and Aristotle.  Future generations will never cease to disappoint us.

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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2019, 09:33:56 AM »
Aside from the nonsense the author tried to insert about blaming the rising cost of average cars on increased gov regulation (while simultaneously acknowledging that engines that donít melt down is a good thing), there is an interesting point about people simply buying too much car. The point I take away for this is that we probably need to rethink 6-year car loans.
Well, there *is* some truth to the government regulation part.  Stricter safety and efficiency standards require more numerous and complex systems to be engineered and installed in every car.  Backup cameras, for example, are required from model year 2018 and onwards.  Engineering and installing the cameras, wiring, and displays doesn't come free.

<puts on grumpy old guy hat>And those new displays are leading manufacturers to ruin the ergonomics of their cars.  The term "infotainment" needs to die in a fire.  HVAC controls should be physical buttons and should in no way require any sort of touch screen to operate.   Head units should fit in a single or double DIN form factor, so that when technology inevitably changes, owners can upgrade their sound systems, rather than be stuck with a terribly-designed and outdated system.

The need for backup cameras is at least partially a result of other government regulations--higher fuel efficiency requirements mean that cars are more streamlined, which forces rear windows to be smaller, which reduces backward visibility, and so you need a camera to see behind you.  My '95 Corolla, on the other hand, has a comparatively huge rear window, and I have excellent rearward visibility.  It's glorious!

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Re: Young People Making Mistakes That Old People Stopped Making
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2019, 10:37:07 AM »
To go along with the other thread that was started:

https://spectator.org/millennial-repo-car-loan-defaults-on-the-rise/

It's almost as if these kids don't have as much life experience as their elders.

It's almost as if most of those kids had shitty examples of how to behave around money while growing up . . .

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Re: Young People Making Mistakes That Old People Stopped Making
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2019, 07:30:12 PM »
To go along with the other thread that was started:

https://spectator.org/millennial-repo-car-loan-defaults-on-the-rise/

It's almost as if these kids don't have as much life experience as their elders.

It's almost as if most of those kids had shitty examples of how to behave around money while growing up . . .

So true!

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2019, 07:15:19 AM »
Wow, his review of the Mirage (linked in the article) is pretty spot on. Back in 2014 when I got mine, most of the articles on the Mirage were like this New York Times review whose sole redeeming point was that it inspired this hilarious Jalopnik response:

It's nice to seem inexpensive cars getting a fair shake.

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Re: Young People Making Mistakes That Old People Stopped Making
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2019, 07:36:29 AM »
Nothing wrong with cheap cars. Probably not what I want to do coast to coast touring with but as a commuter or shopping vehicle - it doesn't take much of a car to haul a person and their shopping around. I've owned many small cheap and cheerful cars in my time.

I wonder if we'll wake up one day and wonder where all the cars went?

Pop culture has shamed everyone away from everything but SUVs (crossovers) and pickups.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2019, 10:13:14 AM by Just Joe »

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Re: Young People Making Mistakes That Old People Stopped Making
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2019, 10:34:34 AM »
Wow, his review of the Mirage (linked in the article) is pretty spot on. Back in 2014 when I got mine, most of the articles on the Mirage were like this New York Times review whose sole redeeming point was that it inspired this hilarious Jalopnik response:

It's nice to seem inexpensive cars getting a fair shake.
That car review was great for a laugh!

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Re: Young People Making Mistakes That Old People Stopped Making
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2019, 06:29:35 PM »
Wow, his review of the Mirage (linked in the article) is pretty spot on. Back in 2014 when I got mine, most of the articles on the Mirage were like this New York Times review whose sole redeeming point was that it inspired this hilarious Jalopnik response:

It's nice to seem inexpensive cars getting a fair shake.
That car review was great for a laugh!
+1 Meeelion!
Fuck John Pearl-clutching Huffman and that high-on-the-horse faux bastion of liberalism NY Times.
Rate the car as it's intended to be used. As a commuter car. For that high-school or college kid.
Jalopnik always delivers... they're still going strong per this recent review: https://jalopnik.com/driving-one-of-europes-forbidden-economy-cars-the-alps-1832117547

to be fair, their new Honda Insight review is the best I've ready calling the car as it is. Fair and balanced. https://jalopnik.com/2019-honda-insight-way-more-normal-than-the-old-one-bu-1831148061
That car is in the running to replace mein frau's 2006 Honda Civic.

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Re: Young People Making Mistakes That Old People Stopped Making
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2019, 03:04:38 AM »
Wow, his review of the Mirage (linked in the article) is pretty spot on. Back in 2014 when I got mine, most of the articles on the Mirage were like this New York Times review whose sole redeeming point was that it inspired this hilarious Jalopnik response:

It's nice to seem inexpensive cars getting a fair shake.
I love my little 2014 Mirage.

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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2019, 07:46:04 AM »
I hate reading reviews written by someone with no appreciation of the vehicle in the first place. I remember reading a review of a Eurovan campervan once that was apparently written by a Corvette owner. Of course he wouldn't appreciate camping in a van. Of course the handling and power were poor compared to a sporty car. Of course the fuel economy was so-so.

Why even bother writing these kinds of reviews? I get it - the author dislikes that car and all the cars like it. Why would his opinion be valued?

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Re: Young People Making Mistakes That Old People Stopped Making
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 09:00:35 PM »
Average new car price might be over $35,000, but there are perfectly fine new cars for less than $15,000.

It's not government regulation that's driving up the new car prices into the stratosphere, it's consumer demand for more luxurious cars than they can afford.