Newly uncovered divorce filings reveal allegations of a “secret life” and help explain why the presidential candidate, who has earned millions of dollars over the years, has hardly anything left.
It's certainly a case study for the fact that multiple degrees from fancy, prestigious universities does not necessarily equate to being good at math. Or being an ethical person . . . which is ironic given that he is a Professor of Religion. Or is it ironic?
It's certainly a case study for the fact that multiple degrees from fancy, prestigious universities does not necessarily equate to being good at math. Or being an ethical person . . . which is ironic given that he is a Professor of Religion. Or is it ironic?
To be fair (?) a professor of religion studies the religions comparatively as an academic field, it’s not like being a pastor. I wouldn’t expect a religion prof to be any more or less ethical than the world at large.
Cornell West did important work early in his career. He has been influential since then, if not contributing mightily to his academic discipline though that I don’t really know about.Did you just say that it is bad that he shirked the IRS, but you don't mind that he sired multiple children that he did not support, even when ordered to by a court of law?
Likely his feet of clay have been revealed over the years in challenges with money and women. He was an outspoken critic of our first black President.
I don’t mind the apparent womanizing of Dr. west, but his failure to pay his fair share of taxes is hypocritical to the extreme. And his excuse that “student loans” sunk him is ridiculous, he is an old man who has had plenty of time and money to pay “student loans.”
Cornell West did important work early in his career. He has been influential since then, if not contributing mightily to his academic discipline though that I don’t really know about.Did you just say that it is bad that he shirked the IRS, but you don't mind that he sired multiple children that he did not support, even when ordered to by a court of law?
Likely his feet of clay have been revealed over the years in challenges with money and women. He was an outspoken critic of our first black President.
I don’t mind the apparent womanizing of Dr. West, but his failure to pay his fair share of taxes is hypocritical to the extreme. And his excuse that “student loans” sunk him is ridiculous, he is an old man who has had plenty of time and money to pay “student loans.”
Even the ones that were a result of his "womanizing"?Cornell West did important work early in his career. He has been influential since then, if not contributing mightily to his academic discipline though that I don’t really know about.Did you just say that it is bad that he shirked the IRS, but you don't mind that he sired multiple children that he did not support, even when ordered to by a court of law?
Likely his feet of clay have been revealed over the years in challenges with money and women. He was an outspoken critic of our first black President.
I don’t mind the apparent womanizing of Dr. West, but his failure to pay his fair share of taxes is hypocritical to the extreme. And his excuse that “student loans” sunk him is ridiculous, he is an old man who has had plenty of time and money to pay “student loans.”
I think it is terrible if he didn’t step up to support his children!
Even the ones that were a result of his "womanizing"?Cornell West did important work early in his career. He has been influential since then, if not contributing mightily to his academic discipline though that I don’t really know about.Did you just say that it is bad that he shirked the IRS, but you don't mind that he sired multiple children that he did not support, even when ordered to by a court of law?
Likely his feet of clay have been revealed over the years in challenges with money and women. He was an outspoken critic of our first black President.
I don’t mind the apparent womanizing of Dr. West, but his failure to pay his fair share of taxes is hypocritical to the extreme. And his excuse that “student loans” sunk him is ridiculous, he is an old man who has had plenty of time and money to pay “student loans.”
I think it is terrible if he didn’t step up to support his children!
If someone cannot honour the vows they made to their spouse, what other vows and oaths will they break?
I'm not talking about open marriages or polyamory, which are very carefully arranged, I am talking about breaking vows by lying and deceit. The dishonesty is the basis.
If power promotes dishonesty, then further power will promote further dishonesty. It reveals a person's character, or lack of it.
Having affairs speaks badly to the character of both the married person having an affair, and the character of a person willing to have an affair with a married person. This is assuming the other person is doing it of their own free will and not being pressured. We know how often people with power do apply pressure, and have in the past when the press gave them a free pass.
If someone cannot honour the vows they made to their spouse, what other vows and oaths will they break?
I'm not talking about open marriages or polyamory, which are very carefully arranged, I am talking about breaking vows by lying and deceit. The dishonesty is the basis.
If power promotes dishonesty, then further power will promote further dishonesty. It reveals a person's character, or lack of it.
Having affairs speaks badly to the character of both the married person having an affair, and the character of a person willing to have an affair with a married person. This is assuming the other person is doing it of their own free will and not being pressured. We know how often people with power do apply pressure, and have in the past when the press gave them a free pass.
Exactly. This shouldn't even need to be explained!
If someone cannot honour the vows they made to their spouse, what other vows and oaths will they break?
I'm not talking about open marriages or polyamory, which are very carefully arranged, I am talking about breaking vows by lying and deceit. The dishonesty is the basis.
If power promotes dishonesty, then further power will promote further dishonesty. It reveals a person's character, or lack of it.
Having affairs speaks badly to the character of both the married person having an affair, and the character of a person willing to have an affair with a married person. This is assuming the other person is doing it of their own free will and not being pressured. We know how often people with power do apply pressure, and have in the past when the press gave them a free pass.
Exactly. This shouldn't even need to be explained!
Have to go through annual training on this in my workplace. Money and power are amazing corrupters of character. Which can lead to information compromise and/or other national security concerns.
If someone cannot honour the vows they made to their spouse, what other vows and oaths will they break?
I'm not talking about open marriages or polyamory, which are very carefully arranged, I am talking about breaking vows by lying and deceit. The dishonesty is the basis.
If power promotes dishonesty, then further power will promote further dishonesty. It reveals a person's character, or lack of it.
Having affairs speaks badly to the character of both the married person having an affair, and the character of a person willing to have an affair with a married person. This is assuming the other person is doing it of their own free will and not being pressured. We know how often people with power do apply pressure, and have in the past when the press gave them a free pass.
Exactly. This shouldn't even need to be explained!
Have to go through annual training on this in my workplace. Money and power are amazing corrupters of character. Which can lead to information compromise and/or other national security concerns.
If someone cannot honour the vows they made to their spouse, what other vows and oaths will they break?
I'm not talking about open marriages or polyamory, which are very carefully arranged, I am talking about breaking vows by lying and deceit. The dishonesty is the basis.
If power promotes dishonesty, then further power will promote further dishonesty. It reveals a person's character, or lack of it.
Having affairs speaks badly to the character of both the married person having an affair, and the character of a person willing to have an affair with a married person. This is assuming the other person is doing it of their own free will and not being pressured. We know how often people with power do apply pressure, and have in the past when the press gave them a free pass.
Exactly. This shouldn't even need to be explained!
Have to go through annual training on this in my workplace. Money and power are amazing corrupters of character. Which can lead to information compromise and/or other national security concerns.
what do they talk about at the annual training?
If someone cannot honour the vows they made to their spouse, what other vows and oaths will they break?
I'm not talking about open marriages or polyamory, which are very carefully arranged, I am talking about breaking vows by lying and deceit. The dishonesty is the basis.
If power promotes dishonesty, then further power will promote further dishonesty. It reveals a person's character, or lack of it.
Having affairs speaks badly to the character of both the married person having an affair, and the character of a person willing to have an affair with a married person. This is assuming the other person is doing it of their own free will and not being pressured. We know how often people with power do apply pressure, and have in the past when the press gave them a free pass.
Exactly. This shouldn't even need to be explained!
Have to go through annual training on this in my workplace. Money and power are amazing corrupters of character. Which can lead to information compromise and/or other national security concerns.
what do they talk about at the annual training?
The usual slide deck, which is updated with the recent dumbasses who got caught selling info. And why they did it, with whom, and when.
If someone cannot honour the vows they made to their spouse, what other vows and oaths will they break?
I'm not talking about open marriages or polyamory, which are very carefully arranged, I am talking about breaking vows by lying and deceit. The dishonesty is the basis.
If power promotes dishonesty, then further power will promote further dishonesty. It reveals a person's character, or lack of it.
Having affairs speaks badly to the character of both the married person having an affair, and the character of a person willing to have an affair with a married person. This is assuming the other person is doing it of their own free will and not being pressured. We know how often people with power do apply pressure, and have in the past when the press gave them a free pass.
Exactly. This shouldn't even need to be explained!
Have to go through annual training on this in my workplace. Money and power are amazing corrupters of character. Which can lead to information compromise and/or other national security concerns.
what do they talk about at the annual training?
The usual slide deck, which is updated with the recent dumbasses who got caught selling info. And why they did it, with whom, and when.
I love training like that. We have annual training with videos about people who go into files they aren't authorized to handle. They're hilarious.
they started incorporating not only high-ups caught, but even little folks.
I'm always fascinated by the maximizers who don't at some point put $1M away somewhere safe in case their aggressive and incentive-driven paths don't work out. I suppose if they built a safety net for themselves, their motivation to work very hard and take big chances would be reduced? They essentially burn their bridges behind themselves, and many end up crashing in the end with nothing to show. But I wonder, would it really un-inspire these people if they knew they had a backup plan? I don't think I think this way, but I'm also not as driven.
Maybe, but there's a disconnect around how intelligent, dilligent, and success-driven people can be so reckless with their own money. It makes me wonder if for at least some high profile people it is an intentional motivation strategy or if the people who did feather their own nest before taking big chances became less motivated or more conservative and therefore ended up with a lower profile. I.e. do only the "do or die" people make headlines?I'm always fascinated by the maximizers who don't at some point put $1M away somewhere safe in case their aggressive and incentive-driven paths don't work out. I suppose if they built a safety net for themselves, their motivation to work very hard and take big chances would be reduced? They essentially burn their bridges behind themselves, and many end up crashing in the end with nothing to show. But I wonder, would it really un-inspire these people if they knew they had a backup plan? I don't think I think this way, but I'm also not as driven.
They trap themselves in consumerism, is my guess. You want a nice car for everyday driving and a sports car for the summer, but you don't like the tight steering of a BMW, so you replace it with a Lexus. You donate $10,000 to a charity and then help a relative adopt a baby.
You eat out more, but at better places because you have 5 digits in your savings account. You don't have time to visit your mother, but have airline points to fly her to you, and while she's here you show her a good time and take her shopping.
I can't say if that's what Mr. West did, but having heard some interviews of his, he seemed like a nice guy.......googling to see if he's a creep........he's running for President with no party affiliation. "The Nation" has a piece already blaming him for Biden's loss.
Maybe, but there's a disconnect around how intelligent, dilligent, and success-driven people can be so reckless with their own money. It makes me wonder if for at least some high profile people it is an intentional motivation strategy or if the people who did feather their own nest before taking big chances became less motivated or more conservative and therefore ended up with a lower profile. I.e. do only the "do or die" people make headlines?I'm always fascinated by the maximizers who don't at some point put $1M away somewhere safe in case their aggressive and incentive-driven paths don't work out. I suppose if they built a safety net for themselves, their motivation to work very hard and take big chances would be reduced? They essentially burn their bridges behind themselves, and many end up crashing in the end with nothing to show. But I wonder, would it really un-inspire these people if they knew they had a backup plan? I don't think I think this way, but I'm also not as driven.
They trap themselves in consumerism, is my guess. You want a nice car for everyday driving and a sports car for the summer, but you don't like the tight steering of a BMW, so you replace it with a Lexus. You donate $10,000 to a charity and then help a relative adopt a baby.
You eat out more, but at better places because you have 5 digits in your savings account. You don't have time to visit your mother, but have airline points to fly her to you, and while she's here you show her a good time and take her shopping.
I can't say if that's what Mr. West did, but having heard some interviews of his, he seemed like a nice guy.......googling to see if he's a creep........he's running for President with no party affiliation. "The Nation" has a piece already blaming him for Biden's loss.
If someone cannot honour the vows they made to their spouse, what other vows and oaths will they break?
I'm not talking about open marriages or polyamory, which are very carefully arranged, I am talking about breaking vows by lying and deceit. The dishonesty is the basis.
If power promotes dishonesty, then further power will promote further dishonesty. It reveals a person's character, or lack of it.
Having affairs speaks badly to the character of both the married person having an affair, and the character of a person willing to have an affair with a married person. This is assuming the other person is doing it of their own free will and not being pressured. We know how often people with power do apply pressure, and have in the past when the press gave them a free pass.
Exactly. This shouldn't even need to be explained!
Have to go through annual training on this in my workplace. Money and power are amazing corrupters of character. Which can lead to information compromise and/or other national security concerns.
what do they talk about at the annual training?
The usual slide deck, which is updated with the recent dumbasses who got caught selling info. And why they did it, with whom, and when.
I love training like that. We have annual training with videos about people who go into files they aren't authorized to handle. They're hilarious.
When I started with this gov agency in 2017, it was the same boring material as my previous agency workplace. But at this place, the presenter would ask for feedback. (Also, this is the only annual training that is mandatory in-person or online, and involves participating in quiz-style Qs, to check for presence.) I, along with others, said the material is repetitive and boring, and could be jazzed up with examples and consequences. Basically make it fun with facts. A couple of years ago, they started incorporating not only high-ups caught, but even little folks.
if I can explain it, my dad was very hard working, driven, ambitious. He actually ended up retiring towards the end of my HS.he sold one restaurant and had passive shares in 2 others. He ended up taking all the money out of savings, starting 6 months after he "retired" to invest in more restaurants. Not going into all the details but ended up losing all that money, his shares in the restaurants, and then some. When I asked him why he never set money specially aside for retirement (vs one giant pot) he said, he made that much money before, he could always do it again. Plus I think he liked the thrill. When he was set (where I would be ecstatic) he was bored and unfulfilled.Maybe, but there's a disconnect around how intelligent, dilligent, and success-driven people can be so reckless with their own money. It makes me wonder if for at least some high profile people it is an intentional motivation strategy or if the people who did feather their own nest before taking big chances became less motivated or more conservative and therefore ended up with a lower profile. I.e. do only the "do or die" people make headlines?I'm always fascinated by the maximizers who don't at some point put $1M away somewhere safe in case their aggressive and incentive-driven paths don't work out. I suppose if they built a safety net for themselves, their motivation to work very hard and take big chances would be reduced? They essentially burn their bridges behind themselves, and many end up crashing in the end with nothing to show. But I wonder, would it really un-inspire these people if they knew they had a backup plan? I don't think I think this way, but I'm also not as driven.
They trap themselves in consumerism, is my guess. You want a nice car for everyday driving and a sports car for the summer, but you don't like the tight steering of a BMW, so you replace it with a Lexus. You donate $10,000 to a charity and then help a relative adopt a baby.
You eat out more, but at better places because you have 5 digits in your savings account. You don't have time to visit your mother, but have airline points to fly her to you, and while she's here you show her a good time and take her shopping.
I can't say if that's what Mr. West did, but having heard some interviews of his, he seemed like a nice guy.......googling to see if he's a creep........he's running for President with no party affiliation. "The Nation" has a piece already blaming him for Biden's loss.
Very fair point. You don't want to lose what you so carefully gathered.
if I can explain it, my dad was very hard working, driven, ambitious. He actually ended up retiring towards the end of my HS.he sold one restaurant and had passive shares in 2 others. He ended up taking all the money out of savings, starting 6 months after he "retired" to invest in more restaurants. Not going into all the details but ended up losing all that money, his shares in the restaurants, and then some. When I asked him why he never set money specially aside for retirement (vs one giant pot) he said, he made that much money before, he could always do it again. Plus I think he liked the thrill. When he was set (where I would be ecstatic) he was bored and unfulfilled.Maybe, but there's a disconnect around how intelligent, dilligent, and success-driven people can be so reckless with their own money. It makes me wonder if for at least some high profile people it is an intentional motivation strategy or if the people who did feather their own nest before taking big chances became less motivated or more conservative and therefore ended up with a lower profile. I.e. do only the "do or die" people make headlines?I'm always fascinated by the maximizers who don't at some point put $1M away somewhere safe in case their aggressive and incentive-driven paths don't work out. I suppose if they built a safety net for themselves, their motivation to work very hard and take big chances would be reduced? They essentially burn their bridges behind themselves, and many end up crashing in the end with nothing to show. But I wonder, would it really un-inspire these people if they knew they had a backup plan? I don't think I think this way, but I'm also not as driven.
They trap themselves in consumerism, is my guess. You want a nice car for everyday driving and a sports car for the summer, but you don't like the tight steering of a BMW, so you replace it with a Lexus. You donate $10,000 to a charity and then help a relative adopt a baby.
You eat out more, but at better places because you have 5 digits in your savings account. You don't have time to visit your mother, but have airline points to fly her to you, and while she's here you show her a good time and take her shopping.
I can't say if that's what Mr. West did, but having heard some interviews of his, he seemed like a nice guy.......googling to see if he's a creep........he's running for President with no party affiliation. "The Nation" has a piece already blaming him for Biden's loss.
Very fair point. You don't want to lose what you so carefully gathered.
I wonder if this is an example of how getting and staying married (and not just formally) makes Financial Independence easier?
In the 1980s my mother used to do the legal side of divorces, and said it was the easiest way of slipping from the (British) Middle Class.