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This time, me.
« on: May 29, 2016, 07:37:26 PM »
Yes, I finally went out and wasted some of my money. It's been on my list for a long time. Drove it back across the country.

The hood, while a little silly, is functional. After I reduce the boost and tune it for 91 octane, it should make around 400 rwhp.

I am of course cutting back all my other (reasonably low) expenses to take care of this thing, and I'll be doing the majority of the wrench work myself.

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2016, 07:52:13 PM »
You got my attention when you said boost...nice looking car and Ive always liked that color.

I don't think there is anything wrong with a fun car or a nice toy if your in pretty good financial shape.

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2016, 08:26:35 PM »
Single?  Twins?  Do you have E85 around there?  If so, put some bigger injectors in there, get a new tune and turn the boost up, not down.  :-)

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2016, 08:50:03 PM »
MP112 magnuson supercharger, intercooled. Hybrid-roots style. Currently has a 9 pound pulley. For various reasons, I need to bring it down to 6 pounds, after which I will probably keep it at 6 due to lower octane gas in CA (91 vs 93) and higher heat and track plans and not wanting to always use torco. (Still, torco for the track makes sense.)

No E85, no interest in E85 - I need to be able to drive the car across the country like I just did.

Lower boost until I can properly build up the engine. It's going to need a handful of basics (timing chain, injectors, blah blah) right off the bat, but 9 pounds is something that's much friendlier to a forged rotating assembly and slightly lowered compression. I'm looking for longevity and streetability over peak numbers.

Cash - this year I am on track to increase net worth by $40k. I consider cars a sunk cost, so the amount I spent on the car is the amount by which I consider myself to have decreased my net worth. Since the car was just shy of $18k, I figure that four months' worth of savings on a toy I plan to keep for many years is not outrageous. I, of course, paid cash (technically certified check.)

But it's anti-mustachian as fuck. Incredibly so. No justification for owning this apart from "want."

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2016, 09:29:13 PM »
MP112 magnuson supercharger, intercooled. Hybrid-roots style. Currently has a 9 pound pulley. For various reasons, I need to bring it down to 6 pounds, after which I will probably keep it at 6 due to lower octane gas in CA (91 vs 93) and higher heat and track plans and not wanting to always use torco. (Still, torco for the track makes sense.)

No E85, no interest in E85 - I need to be able to drive the car across the country like I just did.

Lower boost until I can properly build up the engine. It's going to need a handful of basics (timing chain, injectors, blah blah) right off the bat, but 9 pounds is something that's much friendlier to a forged rotating assembly and slightly lowered compression. I'm looking for longevity and streetability over peak numbers.

Yeah, if it's a blower car, I wouldn't bother with E85 either.  The  M112 is a great blower;  the Eaton versions have been super reliable for me in various vehicles (several Regal GSs with M90s, and my last totally stupid vehicle with an M112 (pic below).

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But it's anti-mustachian as fuck. Incredibly so. No justification for owning this apart from "want."

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2016, 09:30:42 PM »
I doubt you'll get many facepunches, because of the badassity.

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2016, 10:22:07 PM »
I have a 2000 Regal GS with the M90! I think I just love superchargers. kendallf, nice car. What's it got? I haven't looked into trucks at all so I'm completely ignorant.

Grim, I definitely deserve face-punches. However, to offset my car crap, I do drive a 2000 buick and now a 2003 corvette. I do most of the work myself. I'm not planning on buying any cars for many, many years - upgrades for the vette are budgeted for, but only at a couple % of my salary, and they're to be drawn only from the general car fund that covers maintenance and repairs.

Also, sub-$18k for 400-450 rwhp and a hell of a nice ride that I expect to last me 10+ years - it's less expense than a new honda. I certainly did not do well, but it won't bankrupt me or even noticeably slow down my plans and savings.


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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2016, 10:31:41 PM »
You naughty boy you.

Nice ride, but does it have a backup camera and lane assist?

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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2016, 10:37:02 PM »
You naughty boy you.

Nice ride, but does it have a backup camera and lane assist?

Neither! Isn't it great? 2003 doesn't have that crap.

In all seriousness, backup cameras are amazing. However, I 100% do not want a crappy manufacturer screen and the terrible user interface it contains in my goddamn dash board. I am planning on installing proximity buzzers or something, or even a backup camera that displays on a phone... parallel parking this thing (which is, of course, stick) is not my idea of a good time.

Lane assist I found to be terrible. Automatic cruise control I hated too, because in the car I drove that had it, I couldn't turn off the automatic part - it only allowed auto cruise, or no cruise.

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 08:15:31 AM »
I have a 2000 Regal GS with the M90! I think I just love superchargers. kendallf, nice car. What's it got? I haven't looked into trucks at all so I'm completely ignorant.

Grim, I definitely deserve face-punches. However, to offset my car crap, I do drive a 2000 buick and now a 2003 corvette. I do most of the work myself. I'm not planning on buying any cars for many, many years - upgrades for the vette are budgeted for, but only at a couple % of my salary, and they're to be drawn only from the general car fund that covers maintenance and repairs.

Also, sub-$18k for 400-450 rwhp and a hell of a nice ride that I expect to last me 10+ years - it's less expense than a new honda. I certainly did not do well, but it won't bankrupt me or even noticeably slow down my plans and savings.

The Lightning has a 5.4L SOHC motor with the Eaton blower on top of a liquid intercooler.  Mine made 375 RWHP with a 9 PSI pulley.  Great fun toy, and I actually used mine for a truck, unlike most owners.  Putting gas in it at 13mpg got old though, and my utility trailer behind the Prius actually does better for hauling most stuff.  I sold it a couple of years ago.

I'm trying hard to finish a house I'm working on and sell it, then I will take some time to get back to my car projects.  I still have two turbo Regals from the mid 80s and they need to get out of the garage!   

Hope the Vette is a 6 speed.  :-)


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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 02:51:44 PM »
13 mpg! Ouch. Fun toy, but that is a bit of gas.

How are the turbo regals? Do they run?

The vette is of course a 6-speed manual. It's going to need a new clutch at some point, because the stock one ain't built for the supercharger.

It's funny - I drove the automatic 4-speed C5, and it felt ... I hate to say this ... but it felt like 50% more Regal GS. It has 50% more power, 50% more displacement, you know? It felt too old-man-car. The 6-speed feels like a completely different car.

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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2016, 03:05:20 PM »
You're an idiot. Should've put all that money in VTSAX



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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2016, 03:11:20 PM »
Love the C5 (in that color, especially)! It really reinvigorated my Corvette obsession. The '97 launched as I was beginning college and gaining access to the interwebs! My dad's first car was a '65 (but all I ever got to see was a photograph, since it didn't hang out long after my oldest sibling was born!) I really dig the 2000 hardtop. Drove a 2001 Z06 once - what a joy!

Currently have a 350Z but might sell it so I can try for a (blue) C6 in about 5 years...

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2016, 12:29:53 PM »
Love the color. I'd say money well spent, enjoy!

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2016, 11:15:29 AM »
13 mpg! Ouch. Fun toy, but that is a bit of gas.

How are the turbo regals? Do they run?

The vette is of course a 6-speed manual. It's going to need a new clutch at some point, because the stock one ain't built for the supercharger.

It's funny - I drove the automatic 4-speed C5, and it felt ... I hate to say this ... but it felt like 50% more Regal GS. It has 50% more power, 50% more displacement, you know? It felt too old-man-car. The 6-speed feels like a completely different car.

The Buicks don't run; I have had a bunch and sold the nice street cars years ago, as well as the race car piece by piece.. these were "good deal" projects that I bought before I got smart and started simplifying my life.  One is back together and needs minor stuff to start again.  The other is planned to be a radical project (tube frame road race style car).

High HP manual trans cars are amazing fun.  Often the automatics are quicker on the drag strip, but dropping the clutch and blowing the tires away is just ridiculous.  I took a ride in a six speed single turbo 800 hp Supra a couple of years ago that was probably the craziest street ride I've ever taken.

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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2016, 12:59:59 PM »
Welcome to the Vette club. (I have one too) I welcome the criticism and still save half or more of my income so... w/e

Not owning it would decrease my time to FIRE by about 6 months or so.

Yours is probably a bit more economical though, mine is a bit newer.(C7)

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2016, 10:13:57 PM »
So can anyone coach me how to post pics of my reel mowers? I want to brag too... ;)

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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2016, 01:11:11 AM »
You're an idiot. Should've put all that money in VTSAX (sarcasm)

:) I just today hit my two year work anniversary, with a net worth of almost precisely $100k. I started at $-35k or so. That does not count the car(s), which I consider $0 on the balance sheet. Otherwise it'd be $120k, ish. That said, it's definitely a silly non-justifiable purchase.

VTSAX for the win, though!

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Love the C5 (in that color, especially)! It really reinvigorated my Corvette obsession. The '97 launched as I was beginning college and gaining access to the interwebs! My dad's first car was a '65 (but all I ever got to see was a photograph, since it didn't hang out long after my oldest sibling was born!) I really dig the 2000 hardtop. Drove a 2001 Z06 once - what a joy!

Currently have a 350Z but might sell it so I can try for a (blue) C6 in about 5 years...

I love the blue C6 too. Both of the blues they offer are gorgeous. I was actually thinking base model 2008 C6 or supercharged 2001+ C5, and ended up with the supercharged C5.

It's a targa, not a fixed roof - gotta love the california thing, you know?

How do you like the 350?

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Love the color. I'd say money well spent, enjoy!

Stupidly sexy color. Lots of smiles per gallon, but not the smartest purchase, hah.

The Buicks don't run; I have had a bunch and sold the nice street cars years ago, as well as the race car piece by piece.. these were "good deal" projects that I bought before I got smart and started simplifying my life.  One is back together and needs minor stuff to start again.  The other is planned to be a radical project (tube frame road race style car).

High HP manual trans cars are amazing fun.  Often the automatics are quicker on the drag strip, but dropping the clutch and blowing the tires away is just ridiculous.  I took a ride in a six speed single turbo 800 hp Supra a couple of years ago that was probably the craziest street ride I've ever taken.

Good luck with the buicks.

A built two-speed powerglide (auto) is super fast at a drag strip, and a modern double-clutch auto is stupid fast, but I figured if I was going to buy a stupid car it was going to be a stick.

True story - I basically learned to drive stick in this car. This is no joke. I learned to drive stick in a ~450rwhp (~500-550 crank horsepower) supercharged v8 car I just bought. Because I am an idiot.

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Welcome to the Vette club. (I have one too) I welcome the criticism and still save half or more of my income so... w/e

Not owning it would decrease my time to FIRE by about 6 months or so.

Yours is probably a bit more economical though, mine is a bit newer.(C7)

I figure if you save half the income, the rest is yours to be a dumbass with. I get a lot of pleasure out of getting dirty and going fast, so, I'll save half my income and get dirty and go fast.

Which C7 did you buy? They are gorgeous. To me, they are distinctively the start of a new generation; the C4, C5, and C6 are an evolution, whereas the C7 is just new. I love most of them, though I still have my gripes with some choices GM made. (The cloth top...)

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So can anyone coach me how to post pics of my reel mowers? I want to brag too... ;)

Sure!

Okay, here are a few key points to taking good photos of stupid shit like cars, and cool things like reel mowers.

1. You need good lighting. If you're not handy with a proper camera, and you're using a phone, that means daylight. Now, your best hours will be an hour after sunrise and an hour before sunset; you'll get a lovely golden color, full of shadows and texture.
2. You need a good surface that matches the vehicle in question. A mower on freshly mowed grass will do fine.
3. You need to get down to the level of your subject. Don't shoot photos standing up. Crouch down to the height of the mower.
4. You need to get close to your subject. Not only should the mower fill the frame, but certain angles should have the camera/phone close enough that you are focusing on just one part of the thing - wheels, blades, whatever.
5. You need to keep a steady hand. If you crouch down, you can rest one hand on your knee, or even the ground. This makes life easier for the camera/phone.

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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2016, 05:41:02 AM »
:) I just today hit my two year work anniversary, with a net worth of almost precisely $100k. I started at $-35k or so. That does not count the car(s), which I consider $0 on the balance sheet. Otherwise it'd be $120k, ish. That said, it's definitely a silly non-justifiable purchase.
Wow. Saving this much in just two years is incredible. You could buy a sports car every other year and still FIRE in less than a decade.

Bloody well done.

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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2016, 07:28:04 AM »
The 350Z is interesting, especially coming from my daily driver (2008 Fit).

The Fit is all subtlety, controlled chaos - you can just drive too fast and then plow slightly around turns in fun ways. (The Goodyears on it help...) The clutch catches near the bottom of the travel, and it's light, like the liquid shifter. No effort.

In contrast, the Z is brutish. Heavy clutch that catches near the top, heavy shifter that demands you put some muscle into it. If you hit the gas, you go, and unfortunately in this area, there are few instances where the power can be put to use. (I can imagine it might be really tough with a couple hundred extra horses... depending on where you live.) It is a sweet car, but I'm still not sure it's "the right car for me."

The Corvette is American (where as the Z is "an Americanized Japanese sports car") and I think the fit might be there for me, as a taller driver. (Oddly, I drove an auto Camaro V6 rental in the rain one night, and it was a delight, way more fun than I'd have expected.)

I still haven't settled into the Z (about 4000 miles behind the wheel.) I got it as a bank repo w/ 36k on it, and mis-matched tires. Still haven't replaced them - that will be pricey - and I have this slight mistrust of the car. It can probably handle a lot more than I'm comfortable with; the opposite of the Fit, where it really can't handle much at all, but I know the limits and can push them freely without breaking a sweat.

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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2016, 08:05:01 AM »
Are you the same gimp that is on the grm forums?

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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2016, 08:24:42 AM »
Lovely car that is unlikely to depreciate much moving forward as long as you maintain it well :)

I just sprung for a "fun" car that I daily drive half the time (when I'm not cycling or riding motorbike to work).

It's been 2 1/2 months and I have 0 regrets.

Mine is only 330hp but its got 2 doors, RWD, 6 speed manual, with a sunroof so I am in heaven every time I have to drive somewhere :) 

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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2016, 11:03:36 AM »
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Welcome to the Vette club. (I have one too) I welcome the criticism and still save half or more of my income so... w/e

Not owning it would decrease my time to FIRE by about 6 months or so.

Yours is probably a bit more economical though, mine is a bit newer.(C7)

I figure if you save half the income, the rest is yours to be a dumbass with. I get a lot of pleasure out of getting dirty and going fast, so, I'll save half my income and get dirty and go fast.

Which C7 did you buy? They are gorgeous. To me, they are distinctively the start of a new generation; the C4, C5, and C6 are an evolution, whereas the C7 is just new. I love most of them, though I still have my gripes with some choices GM made. (The cloth top...)


We really only started investing 2 years ago and already have over 200k(210k now? I try not to watch it. Investing somewhere around 3-4k a month not including maxing 401k and IRAs) in VTSAX but we also have this thing... not too bad for 25 if I do say so myself...

It is not supercharged but it is still a monster, and the top comes off as well (Targa). Lot's of fun, but yes, bad purchase for this site and it's standards.....

(Not my truck)

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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2016, 11:57:28 AM »
Badass, Gimp!
TheAnonOne - (a bit of) shame on you, that sucker's depreciating too fast be anywhere near a mustachian...

I recently sold the 2000 FRC (fully built n/a, 505whp, actually made $2k on the car) and bought a new-to-me toy

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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2016, 12:01:52 PM »
Badass, Gimp!
TheAnonOne - (a bit of) shame on you, that sucker's depreciating too fast be anywhere near a mustachian...

I recently sold the 2000 FRC (fully built n/a, 505whp, actually made $2k on the car) and bought a new-to-me toy

pis of old and new attached

Yea, I'll take the hit. I am in the Anti-Mustachian section after all. . .

Like I said, paid cash- saving 60ish % of our income per month. On track to FIRE in about 8-10 years in my mid 30s, hard to complain.

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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2016, 12:44:31 PM »
Yea, I'll take the hit. I am in the Anti-Mustachian section after all. . .

Like I said, paid cash- saving 60ish % of our income per month. On track to FIRE in about 8-10 years in my mid 30s, hard to complain.

No judging here -
Life is to short not to enjoy it with a few toys here and there! convert some dead dino juice into noise and CO2! Simple pleasures....

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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2016, 12:52:20 PM »
Congrats, gimp! There are many more expensive and/or less fun vehicles you could have purchased. I've always considered the Corvette to be one of the best bargains in the sports car segment.

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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2016, 02:04:56 PM »
Wow. Saving this much in just two years is incredible. You could buy a sports car every other year and still FIRE in less than a decade.

Bloody well done.

I hope so. Living in the bay area, it becomes very apparent very quickly that I need an escape route. As I have no interest in management, I absolutely must be Free by 40, in case people decide 40 is too old to be an engineer doing sexy work.

My eight-year plan (ten after graduation) is to have enough saved up to GTFO to just about anywhere else in the country, buy a house outright, have a garage, have a way to make a few bucks on the side.

The 350Z is interesting, especially coming from my daily driver (2008 Fit).

The Fit is all subtlety, controlled chaos - you can just drive too fast and then plow slightly around turns in fun ways. (The Goodyears on it help...) The clutch catches near the bottom of the travel, and it's light, like the liquid shifter. No effort.

In contrast, the Z is brutish. Heavy clutch that catches near the top, heavy shifter that demands you put some muscle into it. If you hit the gas, you go, and unfortunately in this area, there are few instances where the power can be put to use. (I can imagine it might be really tough with a couple hundred extra horses... depending on where you live.) It is a sweet car, but I'm still not sure it's "the right car for me."

The Corvette is American (where as the Z is "an Americanized Japanese sports car") and I think the fit might be there for me, as a taller driver. (Oddly, I drove an auto Camaro V6 rental in the rain one night, and it was a delight, way more fun than I'd have expected.)

I still haven't settled into the Z (about 4000 miles behind the wheel.) I got it as a bank repo w/ 36k on it, and mis-matched tires. Still haven't replaced them - that will be pricey - and I have this slight mistrust of the car. It can probably handle a lot more than I'm comfortable with; the opposite of the Fit, where it really can't handle much at all, but I know the limits and can push them freely without breaking a sweat.

People do say the camaros are very fun. How much did you pay for the Z?

Are you the same gimp that is on the grm forums?

I can't tell if you're making a warlizard reference ("Are you the same warlizard from the warlizard gaming forums?")

If not, what are the grm forums? If it's grassroots motorsports, as a quick google implies, no, I am not.

I hang out on reddit, corvette forums, buick regal gs forums, here -- that's about it.

Lovely car that is unlikely to depreciate much moving forward as long as you maintain it well :)

I just sprung for a "fun" car that I daily drive half the time (when I'm not cycling or riding motorbike to work).

It's been 2 1/2 months and I have 0 regrets.

Mine is only 330hp but its got 2 doors, RWD, 6 speed manual, with a sunroof so I am in heaven every time I have to drive somewhere :) 

Let me guess. Infiniti?

The best part about immediately writing down the value of any car purchased is that depreciation is ignored. If I value the car at $0, that means I won't care if its true resale value is $15k or $5k.

With that said, you are right; the C5 is not at the bottom of the depreciation curve, but it just does not have much more to go. Even at 300k miles with today's prices, they sell for $8k if in good condition, probably more given the extras (supercharger and planned reliability and cooling upgrades.) If I put 200k miles on it in ten years (unlikely), I estimate value at $6k - there is only so low a ~500 crank horsepower can go in price - a depreciation of about $500/year + 3 cents per mile.

Also, a corvette with 300k in good condition is such a rarity that it'd get attention just for that.

We really only started investing 2 years ago and already have over 200k(210k now? I try not to watch it. Investing somewhere around 3-4k a month not including maxing 401k and IRAs) in VTSAX but we also have this thing... not too bad for 25 if I do say so myself...

It is not supercharged but it is still a monster, and the top comes off as well (Targa). Lot's of fun, but yes, bad purchase for this site and it's standards.....

(Not my truck)


You have me soundly, roundly beat. Holy shit, that is awesome. You are doing fantastically well.

Do me a favor and keep that car for many years. It's gorgeous. You made a great choice of color and options. 460 brake horsepower is nothing to sneeze at. You'll have just around 391 horsepower to the wheels, though I wouldn't be surprised to see 400 flat with some very minor tweaks and 93 octane. Anyone who thinks 400rwhp isn't enough is insane.

(Yes, my eventual build is planned to be around 450, but I am insane. It is currently around 450, will reduce to 400 with less boost, but then probably add it back with a blower cam and higher flowing heads.)

Considering the overheating issues of the supercharged versions, I am going to be spending a few dollars to get mine track worthy. You may have avoided a headache. Besides which, it is probably cheaper to buy a Z51 + TVS2300 + install than to buy a Z06, if all you wanted was the SC.

Badass, Gimp!

I recently sold the 2000 FRC (fully built n/a, 505whp, actually made $2k on the car) and bought a new-to-me toy

505rwhp NA is just bonkers. Insanity. Holy hell. How lumpy was the cam?

Congrats, gimp! There are many more expensive and/or less fun vehicles you could have purchased. I've always considered the Corvette to be one of the best bargains in the sports car segment.

That's really why I got it - it has a reputation as a redneck supercar, but it delivers. $12k buys you a 350 hp two seater with removable roof and relatively high reliability. That's just stupid performance for the dollar. You can sacrifice looks / style / suspension and get an LS-powered Pontiac or similar, and get even better straight line performance for the dollar, but I already have a comfortable four-seater sleeper car, I don't want another, so I got something stupid that can only fit one passenger.

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Re: This time, me.
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2016, 02:08:59 PM »
$13,900 11 months ago for a 2006 350Z Touring w/ about 36k on it. KBB has it around $13,100 now for private party...

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Re: This time, me.
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2016, 02:22:35 PM »

Let me guess. Infiniti?

The best part about immediately writing down the value of any car purchased is that depreciation is ignored. If I value the car at $0, that means I won't care if its true resale value is $15k or $5k.

With that said, you are right; the C5 is not at the bottom of the depreciation curve, but it just does not have much more to go. Even at 300k miles with today's prices, they sell for $8k if in good condition, probably more given the extras (supercharger and planned reliability and cooling upgrades.) If I put 200k miles on it in ten years (unlikely), I estimate value at $6k - there is only so low a ~500 crank horsepower can go in price - a depreciation of about $500/year + 3 cents per mile.

Also, a corvette with 300k in good condition is such a rarity that it'd get attention just for that.

You guessed correctly! g37s, picked up in March with only 21,450 miles for $16,500 on Craigslist......car was super mint.

Just like neogodless I made out like a bandit and KBB has it @ $19,800 for private party sale. I use an average of KBB Private Sale, NADA Trade  In, and Edmunds Sale to track depreciation.

I could just put it as a $0 in my net worth spreadsheet but since it's a second car that I could sell at any time I keep it in there using a conservative value, plus I'm genuinely curious about tracking depreciation since it's my first "nice" car.

I always had a thing for Corvette's, they sound spectacular, handle very well, and for the price are damn near impossible to beat.

My goal is to own a ~5 year old C7 once they can be had for ~$25-30k