Relatives who just don't get it

[bugbaby]

Team paddlehat here!!!

Some kids (and adults) just need to be spoken to in the language they understand.

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[AlanStache]

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OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Might just be the jeans on the floor ;)

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

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[Raenia]

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

I have a designated spot (happens to be on top of my trunk of winter clothes) where I keep items that have been work but can be worn again.  I also use it to lay out what I plan to wear the next day, so I can get out the door faster to get to work.  Keeps them off the floor and not getting wrinkled.

[Pooperman]

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OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Might just be the jeans on the floor ;)

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

edit: fixed quotes.

I also leave my pants/pajamas right next to the bed on the floor for re-use until they need to be washed (at which point they go into the hamper). On the other hand, I'm already married ;).

[JordanOfGilead]

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OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Might just be the jeans on the floor ;)

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

edit: fixed quotes.

I hang mine on the corner of the footboard of my bed, but yeah, I'll wear jeans until they look or smell dirty. Until then, they're perfectly fine. Of course, I treat all of my clothes like that.

Jeans - max 1 week of daily wear
Button-up (with undershirt) - 4-5 uses
undergarments (socks, boxers, undershirt) - 1 use only (for obvious reasons)
t-shirt - 2-3 days as long as I don't sweat a lot and am not around the same people
work trousers - max 2 days

[Rural]

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OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Might just be the jeans on the floor ;)

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

edit: fixed quotes.

Mine go on top of my dresser for the next day, but then, I have a cat with some brain damage and there's a small but nonzero chance that anything wadded on the floor may get peed on.

[marielle]

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

I have a designated spot (happens to be on top of my trunk of winter clothes) where I keep items that have been work but can be worn again.  I also use it to lay out what I plan to wear the next day, so I can get out the door faster to get to work.  Keeps them off the floor and not getting wrinkled.

But what do you do if you're a minimalist and don't have a dresser or night stand? I guess floor it is for me!

[Jouer]

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

I have a designated spot (happens to be on top of my trunk of winter clothes) where I keep items that have been work but can be worn again.  I also use it to lay out what I plan to wear the next day, so I can get out the door faster to get to work.  Keeps them off the floor and not getting wrinkled.

But what do you do if you're a minimalist and don't have a dresser or night stand? I guess floor it is for me!

I just hang my pants up again. Or put shorts back in their drawer or shelf. Pajama pants that will be reworn are folded on my side of the bed.

[YogiKitti]

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

I have a designated spot (happens to be on top of my trunk of winter clothes) where I keep items that have been work but can be worn again.  I also use it to lay out what I plan to wear the next day, so I can get out the door faster to get to work.  Keeps them off the floor and not getting wrinkled.

But what do you do if you're a minimalist and don't have a dresser or night stand? I guess floor it is for me!

I have the right side of my closet designated for worn but still wearable clothes.

[Cookie78]

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

I have a designated spot (happens to be on top of my trunk of winter clothes) where I keep items that have been work but can be worn again.  I also use it to lay out what I plan to wear the next day, so I can get out the door faster to get to work.  Keeps them off the floor and not getting wrinkled.

But what do you do if you're a minimalist and don't have a dresser or night stand? I guess floor it is for me!

I have the right side of my closet designated for worn but still wearable clothes.

Similar for me. Left side shelf in the closet. Anything that ends up on the floor quickly gets covered in dog hair even though I sweep the floor every day.

[ducky19]

Why not agree to disagree, apologize for the insult, and move on before the mods get involved?

[infogoon]

Team paddlehat here!!!

Some kids (and adults) just need to be spoken to in the language they understand.

Turns out her "love language" was dogshit.

[Gondolin]

She sure sounds like something else!

She has led a very interesting life. She just struggles with some self-esteem and financial education issues that drive the rest of the family nuts.

[TheGrimSqueaker]

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

I have a designated spot (happens to be on top of my trunk of winter clothes) where I keep items that have been work but can be worn again.  I also use it to lay out what I plan to wear the next day, so I can get out the door faster to get to work.  Keeps them off the floor and not getting wrinkled.

But what do you do if you're a minimalist and don't have a dresser or night stand? I guess floor it is for me!

I have the right side of my closet designated for worn but still wearable clothes.

Similar for me. Left side shelf in the closet. Anything that ends up on the floor quickly gets covered in dog hair even though I sweep the floor every day.

+1 for the special shelf club. I bought one of those cheap wire shelves and put it on my wall near my closet. Anything that's been worn but is still clean gets folded up and put there. It's in plain sight, it's not in with the "freshly washed" stuff occupying a drawer or the closet, and it's easily accessible. If, on further examination, it's got a stain or mark I didn't notice, I toss it in the laundry bin.

[fluffmuffin]

Just discovered this thread...I'm sure my father is going to be making lots of appearances. Here's the most recent facepalm.

He sold a property in 2016 and netted ~$60k. He used most of it to pay down debts, which is great; treated himself to a vacation, which I have no real issues with since he works harder than anyone I know and was long overdue for a mental health break; and then blew the rest on nonsense. By April 2017, he only had about $2,000 left. He decided he was going to use it to buy an RV, despite never having expressed any interest in owning an RV, not enjoying camping, and not being the sort of person who wants to up sticks away from his business and snowbird his way around the US. I tried to talk through all of that with him, and also floated the idea of him saving the $2,000 for a rainy day, but he was adamant that he was buying the RV because he was getting such a great deal.

In June, he asked me for a $2,000 loan to explore a new business venture. I asked how that $2,000 RV was working out.

The icing on the cake is that he makes ~$165k/year, so over $200k in 2016 with the property sale. I work in education and only recently got to $45k. One of us is perennially broke and scrambling at the end of the month; one of us has savings and never has to wonder if they have enough money to pay their bills. I will leave it to your imagination to figure out which lifestyle goes with which salary.

[Zikoris]

Seriously, none of you guys have The Chair? I thought that was pretty much the universal place to store worn-but-still-clean-enough clothes.

[zolotiyeruki]

Seriously, none of you guys have The Chair? I thought that was pretty much the universal place to store worn-but-still-clean-enough clothes.

Of course we have a chair.  Where else are we going to store all those useless froo-froo decorative pillows that we have to remove in order to actually use the bed?

[dandarc]

Just discovered this thread...I'm sure my father is going to be making lots of appearances. Here's the most recent facepalm.

He sold a property in 2016 and netted ~$60k. He used most of it to pay down debts, which is great; treated himself to a vacation, which I have no real issues with since he works harder than anyone I know and was long overdue for a mental health break; and then blew the rest on nonsense. By April 2017, he only had about $2,000 left. He decided he was going to use it to buy an RV, despite never having expressed any interest in owning an RV, not enjoying camping, and not being the sort of person who wants to up sticks away from his business and snowbird his way around the US. I tried to talk through all of that with him, and also floated the idea of him saving the $2,000 for a rainy day, but he was adamant that he was buying the RV because he was getting such a great deal.

In June, he asked me for a $2,000 loan to explore a new business venture. I asked how that $2,000 RV was working out.

The icing on the cake is that he makes ~$165k/year, so over $200k in 2016 with the property sale. I work in education and only recently got to $45k. One of us is perennially broke and scrambling at the end of the month; one of us has savings and never has to wonder if they have enough money to pay their bills. I will leave it to your imagination to figure out which lifestyle goes with which salary.

To paraphrase Dave Ramsey - Sounds like your dad has tried to out-earn his stupidity and failed.

[Sibley]

OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Eh, depends. No furniture at all? That's a little odd. No dining room table, but other arrangements are reasonable? I'm good with that.

Granted, I'm on this site.

[marielle]

OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Eh, depends. No furniture at all? That's a little odd. No dining room table, but other arrangements are reasonable? I'm good with that.

Granted, I'm on this site.

One of my former roommates basically had no furniture. No couch, table, etc because he's not really home a lot (always doing something with friends or working). Not even a bed. He prefers to sleep without one because it's better for his back. I actually furnished the room he was staying in too, wish I knew that wasn't really necessary!

[ixtap]

OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Eh, depends. No furniture at all? That's a little odd. No dining room table, but other arrangements are reasonable? I'm good with that.

Granted, I'm on this site.

I once had a guy insist that he was going to buy me a table. I didn't want a table. The place had an awkward layout. I was happy eating at the coffee table or the desk. I knew I would only be living there for a year and didn't know where I would be going after that. I had to have a fight to not be given a table. We had a similar fight about not getting flowers, due to allergies. He didn't last long.

[Dollar Slice]

I once had a guy insist that he was going to buy me a table. I didn't want a table. The place had an awkward layout. I was happy eating at the coffee table or the desk. I knew I would only be living there for a year and didn't know where I would be going after that. I had to have a fight to not be given a table. We had a similar fight about not getting flowers, due to allergies. He didn't last long.

My first apartment out of college... in the smallish living room I had a nice new couch, a coffee table that I'd repainted, and a nice glider rocking chair (with cushions, pretty comfy). I was dating a guy who apparently secretly thought I needed a real armchair instead of the rocker. So one day he showed up and said hey, I bought a chair at the Goodwill near your place, do you mind helping me carry it over here and then I'll borrow a car and come get it? I said sure. We went to pick it up and it was a really bulky chair with a hideous floral pattern. And we had to pick up and carry that fucker three-quarters of a mile on foot. Ugh. After a couple of weeks I bugged him about getting a car to come pick it up, and that's when he revealed his secret plan, which was to get the thing into my apartment and then say it was a gift all along, when it's too late to say no. :-/

Sometimes you don't see these relationship red flags until you've got the 20/20 hindsight going on...

[solon]

These poor guys. They probably have no idea what went wrong. They're doing the most helpful things they can think of to show their love, but it just isn't good enough.

[ixtap]

These poor guys. They probably have no idea what went wrong. They're doing the most helpful things they can think of to show their love, but it just isn't good enough.

That was precisely this guy's problem. He often told me that he already knew what women liked, as a way of telling me I was wrong about my preferences.

[AlanStache]

OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Eh, depends. No furniture at all? That's a little odd. No dining room table, but other arrangements are reasonable? I'm good with that.

Granted, I'm on this site.

I once had a guy insist that he was going to buy me a table. I didn't want a table. The place had an awkward layout. I was happy eating at the coffee table or the desk. I knew I would only be living there for a year and didn't know where I would be going after that. I had to have a fight to not be given a table. We had a similar fight about not getting flowers, due to allergies. He didn't last long.

95% of what I use the ex-gf's dinning room table for is as a place to set my Chrome book when it is charging.  On the other hand without a table there I will likely hit my head on the hanging light... I mostly eat on the deck - why would I not?

I do have a bed/dresser but no chair suitable for holding cloths that is not clean but not yet in need of washing.  Will have to see how things look and feel to determine what I 'need' to acquire.

[TartanTallulah]

3) My MIL is a borderline gambling addict who routinely blows $200-$300 per casino visit.  They stopped at 2 on their drive over here and will stop at 2 on their drive back.  I only say borderline because she (for the moment) is able to stop herself at a designated spend amount.

And there is the latest financial gossip about my BIL and his family.  He claims he makes $185K, and yet also claims that he's saving virtually nothing and is living paycheck to paycheck.  He says he puts $50 a month per kid into a 509 plan and that's it. HOW IS THAT FUCKING POSSIBLE?  I cannot get my head around it.

My best bet is that the BIL is exaggerating.  Maybe he makes a little less and saves a little more than he's claiming.  Maybe he's not counting his 401(K) contributions or something.  But this has always been the narrative--he works super hard and makes good money, but they're always strapped.  Are you familiar with the old robot expression, "Does not compute"?

Could BIL be a gambler too? That's an efficient way to shred a large paycheck, and there are many ways to be a gambling addict without it being obvious.

[With This Herring]

I once had a guy insist that he was going to buy me a table. I didn't want a table. The place had an awkward layout. I was happy eating at the coffee table or the desk. I knew I would only be living there for a year and didn't know where I would be going after that. I had to have a fight to not be given a table. We had a similar fight about not getting flowers, due to allergies. He didn't last long.

My first apartment out of college... in the smallish living room I had a nice new couch, a coffee table that I'd repainted, and a nice glider rocking chair (with cushions, pretty comfy). I was dating a guy who apparently secretly thought I needed a real armchair instead of the rocker. So one day he showed up and said hey, I bought a chair at the Goodwill near your place, do you mind helping me carry it over here and then I'll borrow a car and come get it? I said sure. We went to pick it up and it was a really bulky chair with a hideous floral pattern. And we had to pick up and carry that fucker three-quarters of a mile on foot. Ugh. After a couple of weeks I bugged him about getting a car to come pick it up, and that's when he revealed his secret plan, which was to get the thing into my apartment and then say it was a gift all along, when it's too late to say no. :-/

Sometimes you don't see these relationship red flags until you've got the 20/20 hindsight going on...

Wow, you two really dodged a bullet.  This Etiquette Hell story could have been your futures.

[Step37]

Seriously, none of you guys have The Chair? I thought that was pretty much the universal place to store worn-but-still-clean-enough clothes.

Hahaha!! I have a couple of multi-peg hooks that hang in my *closet* (actually a small bedroom/ridiculous/need to downsize wardrobe/face punch) for this purpose. There's also a chair in there, but it's a small one. The clothes stay less wrinkly when I'm not squashing them as I put on my socks...

[NoVa]

I once had a guy insist that he was going to buy me a table. I didn't want a table. The place had an awkward layout. I was happy eating at the coffee table or the desk. I knew I would only be living there for a year and didn't know where I would be going after that. I had to have a fight to not be given a table. We had a similar fight about not getting flowers, due to allergies. He didn't last long.

My first apartment out of college... in the smallish living room I had a nice new couch, a coffee table that I'd repainted, and a nice glider rocking chair (with cushions, pretty comfy). I was dating a guy who apparently secretly thought I needed a real armchair instead of the rocker. So one day he showed up and said hey, I bought a chair at the Goodwill near your place, do you mind helping me carry it over here and then I'll borrow a car and come get it? I said sure. We went to pick it up and it was a really bulky chair with a hideous floral pattern. And we had to pick up and carry that fucker three-quarters of a mile on foot. Ugh. After a couple of weeks I bugged him about getting a car to come pick it up, and that's when he revealed his secret plan, which was to get the thing into my apartment and then say it was a gift all along, when it's too late to say no. :-/

Sometimes you don't see these relationship red flags until you've got the 20/20 hindsight going on...

Occasionally it works out OK, though. Not the deception part, that is universally bad.

I had two friends of mine who had just graduated from college and had gotten an apartment together to save money. I was spending a bunch of time over there, and there was a lot of empty space. The big lack for me was music, and I just happened to have an entire nice stereo setup I wasn't using, because I was also sharing a condo, but my roommate had a nice stereo. So one day I backed a van up to the sliding glass door and unloaded and setup the stereo for them to use, no strings attached. Did I mention it was a really nice setup? Separate amp and pre-amp, high end turntable and really nice speakers. I would up marrying one of them, but to this day she says I have ruined a lot of music for her, because before she never noticed how bad most systems sounded, but now she can hear the difference.

[cavewoman]

Wow, you two really dodged a bullet.  This Etiquette Hell story could have been your futures.

Well thank you for that site, looks like a fun place to binge read and feed my drama llama :)

[mtn]

I once had a guy insist that he was going to buy me a table. I didn't want a table. The place had an awkward layout. I was happy eating at the coffee table or the desk. I knew I would only be living there for a year and didn't know where I would be going after that. I had to have a fight to not be given a table. We had a similar fight about not getting flowers, due to allergies. He didn't last long.

My first apartment out of college... in the smallish living room I had a nice new couch, a coffee table that I'd repainted, and a nice glider rocking chair (with cushions, pretty comfy). I was dating a guy who apparently secretly thought I needed a real armchair instead of the rocker. So one day he showed up and said hey, I bought a chair at the Goodwill near your place, do you mind helping me carry it over here and then I'll borrow a car and come get it? I said sure. We went to pick it up and it was a really bulky chair with a hideous floral pattern. And we had to pick up and carry that fucker three-quarters of a mile on foot. Ugh. After a couple of weeks I bugged him about getting a car to come pick it up, and that's when he revealed his secret plan, which was to get the thing into my apartment and then say it was a gift all along, when it's too late to say no. :-/

Sometimes you don't see these relationship red flags until you've got the 20/20 hindsight going on...

Occasionally it works out OK, though. Not the deception part, that is universally bad.

I had two friends of mine who had just graduated from college and had gotten an apartment together to save money. I was spending a bunch of time over there, and there was a lot of empty space. The big lack for me was music, and I just happened to have an entire nice stereo setup I wasn't using, because I was also sharing a condo, but my roommate had a nice stereo. So one day I backed a van up to the sliding glass door and unloaded and setup the stereo for them to use, no strings attached. Did I mention it was a really nice setup? Separate amp and pre-amp, high end turntable and really nice speakers. I would up marrying one of them, but to this day she says I have ruined a lot of music for her, because before she never noticed how bad most systems sounded, but now she can hear the difference.

Mind me asking what equipment it was? I've got a mostly-vintage setup right now with Rotel amp, Amber pre-amp, Denon turntable, Onkyo tuner, and B&W speakers. When my wife heard the setup for the first time, she was astounded at how good the music could sound.

[NoVa]

I once had a guy insist that he was going to buy me a table. I didn't want a table. The place had an awkward layout. I was happy eating at the coffee table or the desk. I knew I would only be living there for a year and didn't know where I would be going after that. I had to have a fight to not be given a table. We had a similar fight about not getting flowers, due to allergies. He didn't last long.

My first apartment out of college... in the smallish living room I had a nice new couch, a coffee table that I'd repainted, and a nice glider rocking chair (with cushions, pretty comfy). I was dating a guy who apparently secretly thought I needed a real armchair instead of the rocker. So one day he showed up and said hey, I bought a chair at the Goodwill near your place, do you mind helping me carry it over here and then I'll borrow a car and come get it? I said sure. We went to pick it up and it was a really bulky chair with a hideous floral pattern. And we had to pick up and carry that fucker three-quarters of a mile on foot. Ugh. After a couple of weeks I bugged him about getting a car to come pick it up, and that's when he revealed his secret plan, which was to get the thing into my apartment and then say it was a gift all along, when it's too late to say no. :-/

Sometimes you don't see these relationship red flags until you've got the 20/20 hindsight going on...

Occasionally it works out OK, though. Not the deception part, that is universally bad.

I had two friends of mine who had just graduated from college and had gotten an apartment together to save money. I was spending a bunch of time over there, and there was a lot of empty space. The big lack for me was music, and I just happened to have an entire nice stereo setup I wasn't using, because I was also sharing a condo, but my roommate had a nice stereo. So one day I backed a van up to the sliding glass door and unloaded and setup the stereo for them to use, no strings attached. Did I mention it was a really nice setup? Separate amp and pre-amp, high end turntable and really nice speakers. I would up marrying one of them, but to this day she says I have ruined a lot of music for her, because before she never noticed how bad most systems sounded, but now she can hear the difference.

Mind me asking what equipment it was? I've got a mostly-vintage setup right now with Rotel amp, Amber pre-amp, Denon turntable, Onkyo tuner, and B&W speakers. When my wife heard the setup for the first time, she was astounded at how good the music could sound.

Turntable was a Thorens TD125 Mk II with a Shure SME arm and a MA 2002e cartridge.
Preamp was a Dynaco PAT-5 Bifet.
Amp was a Quatre Gain Cell DG250, the only "control" it had was an on/off switch in the back and a red light in the front to tell if it was on or off.
Speakers were 4 New Large Advents, in a stacked array, with a 6" solid wood spacer to recreate the woofer spacing of the Original Large Advents. The top speaker was upside down in this configuration, so the woofers were top and bottom and the tweeters were in the middle.

[Taconite]

Thought that I would share a couple of stories of my MIL (think that is mother in law). 

1) Up at the in-laws place last weekend.  MIL was ranting about how the local grocer ran out of her favorite Gold Peak Iced Tea.  IMHO, this is almost as bad as buying bottled water, which my MIL drinks a ton of.
2) In Kona years ago, the family did the timeshare sales workshop to get some sightseeing tickets.  The same MIL jumped in on the side of the salesperson and was trying like hell to get me to buy in.  Made an offhand comment of "how she thought I loved her daughter more" when I didn't buy into it. 

[WerKater]

Seriously, none of you guys have The Chair? I thought that was pretty much the universal place to store worn-but-still-clean-enough clothes.

I'm not a very neat or orderly person, but hanging clothes on chairs is actually one of the few things that rile me up (well, mildly). Because chairs are for sitting. And chairs that have random stuff hanging on them are typically not nice to sit on. So, please be considerate and just toss it on the floor. Unless there is too much stuff on the floor, it is easy to just step over it.

[RetiredAt63]

Seriously, none of you guys have The Chair? I thought that was pretty much the universal place to store worn-but-still-clean-enough clothes.

I'm not a very neat or orderly person, but hanging clothes on chairs is actually one of the few things that rile me up (well, mildly). Because chairs are for sitting. And chairs that have random stuff hanging on them are typically not nice to sit on. So, please be considerate and just toss it on the floor. Unless there is too much stuff on the floor, it is easy to just step over it.

Two chairs, one for the clothes, one for you.  Around here anything on the floor is immediately covered in dog hair.  Dogs and cats love to lie on clothes that have been worn because they smell like the pet's beloved people (or so I tell myself - with cats it could be for any reason).

[WerKater]

Seriously, none of you guys have The Chair? I thought that was pretty much the universal place to store worn-but-still-clean-enough clothes.

I'm not a very neat or orderly person, but hanging clothes on chairs is actually one of the few things that rile me up (well, mildly). Because chairs are for sitting. And chairs that have random stuff hanging on them are typically not nice to sit on. So, please be considerate and just toss it on the floor. Unless there is too much stuff on the floor, it is easy to just step over it.

Two chairs, one for the clothes, one for you.  Around here anything on the floor is immediately covered in dog hair.  Dogs and cats love to lie on clothes that have been worn because they smell like the pet's beloved people (or so I tell myself - with cats it could be for any reason).

You have too many chairs ;-)
Of course, I don't have any pets, so...

[RetiredAt63]

Seriously, none of you guys have The Chair? I thought that was pretty much the universal place to store worn-but-still-clean-enough clothes.

Of course we have a chair.  Where else are we going to store all those useless froo-froo decorative pillows that we have to remove in order to actually use the bed?

Where did they come from?  When I was a kid back in the Middle Ages those were basically only on beds in guest rooms, if at all.  Now they are everywhere.  Pretty, sure, but such a nuisance. 

[Sibley]

OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Eh, depends. No furniture at all? That's a little odd. No dining room table, but other arrangements are reasonable? I'm good with that.

Granted, I'm on this site.

I once had a guy insist that he was going to buy me a table. I didn't want a table. The place had an awkward layout. I was happy eating at the coffee table or the desk. I knew I would only be living there for a year and didn't know where I would be going after that. I had to have a fight to not be given a table. We had a similar fight about not getting flowers, due to allergies. He didn't last long.

I have allergies and don't like chocolate. I have yet to meet someone who can get it through their head that I do not want flowers, perfume or chocolate.

[prognastat]

2) In Kona years ago, the family did the timeshare sales workshop to get some sightseeing tickets.  The same MIL jumped in on the side of the salesperson and was trying like hell to get me to buy in.  Made an offhand comment of "how she thought I loved her daughter more" when I didn't buy into it.

I would be quite offended by the insinuation I didn't care for/love my wife enough because I didn't buy what my MIL thought I should. It would actually affect my core opinion of them.

[ixtap]

OT: Talked with my parent last weekend and we were discussing my now ex-GF and her impending move-out.  Parent thinks I need to buy furniture as much of it will be leaving with the ex-gf.  Just because the room will fit them I dont need two couches.  I thought I would be saving on utilities and food with her move-out but maybe not.  Apparently I wont be able to get a new GF without a dinning room table.

Eh, depends. No furniture at all? That's a little odd. No dining room table, but other arrangements are reasonable? I'm good with that.

Granted, I'm on this site.

I once had a guy insist that he was going to buy me a table. I didn't want a table. The place had an awkward layout. I was happy eating at the coffee table or the desk. I knew I would only be living there for a year and didn't know where I would be going after that. I had to have a fight to not be given a table. We had a similar fight about not getting flowers, due to allergies. He didn't last long.

I have allergies and don't like chocolate. I have yet to meet someone who can get it through their head that I do not want flowers, perfume or chocolate.

The Keeper also didn't try to fix my wine cupboard until after he had moved in. Even the plumber wanted to fix that crooked door... For the record, it was still crooked when we sold it, because my DIY skills were never the problem.

On the downside, I have received three gifts in seven years. Small price to pay for not having the wrong gifts foisted on me and it makes those three very special. Even he smiled when he noticed the carabineer he had bought me attached to my work life jacket on the Fourth of July.

[Playing with Fire UK]

These poor guys. They probably have no idea what went wrong. They're doing the most helpful things they can think of to show their love, but it just isn't good enough.

That was precisely this guy's problem. He often told me that he already knew what women liked, as a way of telling me I was wrong about my preferences.

I have allergies and don't like chocolate. I have yet to meet someone who can get it through their head that I do not want flowers, perfume or chocolate.

We need some sort of remedial training for these people. Explaining the subtle difference between some women/dog owner/Irish people like this thing and ALL women/dog owner/Irish people like this thing. For extra credit, they need to identify who is best at knowing what someone likes a) the individual concerned b) a stranger who has known other strangers.

[Aelias]

3) My MIL is a borderline gambling addict who routinely blows $200-$300 per casino visit.  They stopped at 2 on their drive over here and will stop at 2 on their drive back.  I only say borderline because she (for the moment) is able to stop herself at a designated spend amount.

And there is the latest financial gossip about my BIL and his family.  He claims he makes $185K, and yet also claims that he's saving virtually nothing and is living paycheck to paycheck.  He says he puts $50 a month per kid into a 509 plan and that's it. HOW IS THAT FUCKING POSSIBLE?  I cannot get my head around it.

My best bet is that the BIL is exaggerating.  Maybe he makes a little less and saves a little more than he's claiming.  Maybe he's not counting his 401(K) contributions or something.  But this has always been the narrative--he works super hard and makes good money, but they're always strapped.  Are you familiar with the old robot expression, "Does not compute"?

Could BIL be a gambler too? That's an efficient way to shred a large paycheck, and there are many ways to be a gambling addict without it being obvious.

I suppose it's possible, but it would be really shocking.  He seems to tolerate MIL's gambling with the same combination of irritation and bemusement that we do.  Then again, we live on opposite sides of the country.  We aren't involved in each others' lives on a regular basis.  There's a lot I probably don't know about his life, and vice versa.

[MgoSam]

2) In Kona years ago, the family did the timeshare sales workshop to get some sightseeing tickets.  The same MIL jumped in on the side of the salesperson and was trying like hell to get me to buy in.  Made an offhand comment of "how she thought I loved her daughter more" when I didn't buy into it.

I would be quite offended by the insinuation I didn't care for/love my wife enough because I didn't buy what my MIL thought I should. It would actually affect my core opinion of them.

Yeah agreed. Was your MIL caught up in the scheme or is she normally like this? That's some extremely manipulative bullshit. I'm getting better at not biting my tongue so I would have said something along the lines of, "There's nothing stopping you from buying it if you love that much!"

[Reynold]

1. I completely abused my parents good will and used their house (well my old room) as storage for waaaay too long . . . like 8 years after I graduated.  :-(   

That is not waaaay too long, the 30 years my SIL left several trunks of stuff in my in-laws basement was waaaay too long.  She had two houses, one her own (living by herself) and one a rental, but said she didn't have space for it.   Then she had the nerve to complain when the stuff arrived that there was mildew.  Yes, because you left it in an unfinished basement for decades, and there were water leaks during that time. . .

[TheGrimSqueaker]

1. I completely abused my parents good will and used their house (well my old room) as storage for waaaay too long . . . like 8 years after I graduated.  :-(   

That is not waaaay too long, the 30 years my SIL left several trunks of stuff in my in-laws basement was waaaay too long.  She had two houses, one her own (living by herself) and one a rental, but said she didn't have space for it.   Then she had the nerve to complain when the stuff arrived that there was mildew.  Yes, because you left it in an unfinished basement for decades, and there were water leaks during that time. . .

Then of course there were my parents, who saved every childhood school art assignment and random crayon scribble or cheap toy. They then demanded that we take "our things" when we came back to visit, no matter how my sibling and I asserted that we'd already taken everything we wanted. If they wanted some souvenirs that was fine by me, but I saw no merit in storing old stuff that wasn't, say, a picture or correspondence. I expressed willingness to haul mine to the dump and they freaked.

[Dave1442397]

1. I completely abused my parents good will and used their house (well my old room) as storage for waaaay too long . . . like 8 years after I graduated.  :-(   

That is not waaaay too long, the 30 years my SIL left several trunks of stuff in my in-laws basement was waaaay too long.  She had two houses, one her own (living by herself) and one a rental, but said she didn't have space for it.   Then she had the nerve to complain when the stuff arrived that there was mildew.  Yes, because you left it in an unfinished basement for decades, and there were water leaks during that time. . .

That's our house. We bought it from my in-laws, who downsized to a one-bedroom condo in 2001. We still have boxes of crap in the basement, and more boxes in the attic. I went through a lot of it years ago, and tossed boxes and boxes of duplicate programs for various functions they were involved in over the years (stuff dated back to the late '70s), plus other crap like an electric foot bath from the '50s, which I'd be afraid to plug in. My MIL is 88 now, and once she goes, so does the rest of the stuff :)

[merula]

Then of course there were my parents, who saved every childhood school art assignment and random crayon scribble or cheap toy. They then demanded that we take "our things" when we came back to visit, no matter how my sibling and I asserted that we'd already taken everything we wanted. If they wanted some souvenirs that was fine by me, but I saw no merit in storing old stuff that wasn't, say, a picture or correspondence. I expressed willingness to haul mine to the dump and they freaked.

E-fucking-xactly. As early as I can possibly remember, my room was filled with junk that I was responsible for keeping neat, but I COULD NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES clear it out. "I don't want this stuffed animal." "But [random person] gave it to you when you were a baby! You can't get rid of it!" "Can we put it the closet instead of out with the toys I actually play with?" "No, your stuffed animals belong in that corner."

I'll give you three guesses as to whether my mother's respect for my personal preferences has changed over the past 25+ years, and the first two don't count.

[MgoSam]

Then of course there were my parents, who saved every childhood school art assignment and random crayon scribble or cheap toy. They then demanded that we take "our things" when we came back to visit, no matter how my sibling and I asserted that we'd already taken everything we wanted. If they wanted some souvenirs that was fine by me, but I saw no merit in storing old stuff that wasn't, say, a picture or correspondence. I expressed willingness to haul mine to the dump and they freaked.

E-fucking-xactly. As early as I can possibly remember, my room was filled with junk that I was responsible for keeping neat, but I COULD NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES clear it out. "I don't want this stuffed animal." "But [random person] gave it to you when you were a baby! You can't get rid of it!" "Can we put it the closet instead of out with the toys I actually play with?" "No, your stuffed animals belong in that corner."

I'll give you three guesses as to whether my mother's respect for my personal preferences has changed over the past 25+ years, and the first two don't count.

This makes me more glad my parents aren't the sentimental types. My mom insisted I clean out a huge section of my room before going off to college and was standing over my shoulder as I was looking at something and I looked at her and she was like, "Oh right, I suppose you may some memories of this stuff, I'll give you some space."

[yourusernamehere]

Ok, just picked them up... and put them on.  Do you all really wash jeans after one day?  How do you store them for a second day if not on the floor?  big questions here! :-)

I have a designated spot (happens to be on top of my trunk of winter clothes) where I keep items that have been work but can be worn again.  I also use it to lay out what I plan to wear the next day, so I can get out the door faster to get to work.  Keeps them off the floor and not getting wrinkled.

That's my process too! It goes on the right side of the dresser after the first wear. I re-wear a lot I guess, so I end up hanging things back up after a couple days so the pile doesn't get too big. DH washes every article of his clothing after every wear. It took me a long time to stop being frustrated about it, but with his psoriasis and the flaky skin that brings he is just 100% grossed out by wearing any clothing more than once, even jeans.

[Carless]

When I bought a house dad gave me a box full of pictures.  Of myself.  High school photos, elementary school, etc. I looked at this and said...

Me:"do you even have any pictures of me left?"

Dad:"Don't worry, we won't forget what you look like"