Overheard on Facebook

[barbaz]

This talk of shoes for baby remind me of a short story reportedly written by Hemingway.

"For sale: Baby shoes, never worn."

"Buying: Baby clothes. Selling: Book on contraception, very confusing"

My mom got bit by that tick that makes you allergic to eating mammals.

Wait, what???

[aetherie]

My mom got bit by that tick that makes you allergic to eating mammals.

Wait, what???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_allergy

I just learned about this last year - it happened to my coworker's wife. It's crazy!

[cheapass]

I wonder why people post pictures of their new vehicles so often? Is this something they're proud of? Was it difficult, but whew! they made it!?

I always find it hilarious when people are like "OMG CONGRATULATIONS!!"... it's not like they graduated from college or climbed Mt. Everest or anything else that's actually an achievement worthy of congratulation.

I always want to comment "Congratulations on not having abysmal credit and qualifying for your loan!"

[randymarsh]

I wonder why people post pictures of their new vehicles so often? Is this something they're proud of? Was it difficult, but whew! they made it!?

I always find it hilarious when people are like "OMG CONGRATULATIONS!!"... it's not like they graduated from college or climbed Mt. Everest or anything else that's actually an achievement worthy of congratulation.

On my feed people seem to buy a new car as soon as they graduate, so it's sort of a 2-for-1 deal. It's sad to see all the congratulations though when I know for a fact many of the buyers don't even have $500 in savings. Just reinforces bad decision making!

[Metric Mouse]

I wonder why people post pictures of their new vehicles so often? Is this something they're proud of? Was it difficult, but whew! they made it!?

I always find it hilarious when people are like "OMG CONGRATULATIONS!!"... it's not like they graduated from college or climbed Mt. Everest or anything else that's actually an achievement worthy of congratulation.

On my feed people seem to buy a new car as soon as they graduate, so it's sort of a 2-for-1 deal. It's sad to see all the congratulations though when I know for a fact many of the buyers don't even have $500 in savings. Just reinforces bad decision making!

Right? Except on my feed it was all "Plane ticket to Iceland! YOLO" and "Off to the Electric Forest Festival ya'll!"   At least a car has some residual value if you need to sell it later...

[Threshkin]

I wonder why people post pictures of their new vehicles so often? Is this something they're proud of? Was it difficult, but whew! they made it!?

I always find it hilarious when people are like "OMG CONGRATULATIONS!!"... it's not like they graduated from college or climbed Mt. Everest or anything else that's actually an achievement worthy of congratulation.

On my feed people seem to buy a new car as soon as they graduate, so it's sort of a 2-for-1 deal. It's sad to see all the congratulations though when I know for a fact many of the buyers don't even have $500 in savings. Just reinforces bad decision making!

Right? Except on my feed it was all "Plane ticket to Iceland! YOLO" and "Off to the Electric Forest Festival ya'll!"   At least a car has some residual value if you need to sell it later...

But wait, I thought you were supposed to spend your money on experiences not things! 

Have I got this wrong?  Should i stop traveling and doing activities i love and start buying stuff instead?

/sarc

[Metric Mouse]

You should probably start doing what makes you happy, regardless of what your Facebook friends think.  If you think  experiences like driving your dream car down the twisty backroads that love or taking on The Dragon with your new motorcycle or buying a plane ride to a distant country to take selfies by a frozen waterfall with a hundred other tourists are more important than financial security, then yes, you should continue to do them, and be a bit less judgemental of others who do the same.

[frugalnacho]

I wonder why people post pictures of their new vehicles so often? Is this something they're proud of? Was it difficult, but whew! they made it!?

I always find it hilarious when people are like "OMG CONGRATULATIONS!!"... it's not like they graduated from college or climbed Mt. Everest or anything else that's actually an achievement worthy of congratulation.

On my feed people seem to buy a new car as soon as they graduate, so it's sort of a 2-for-1 deal. It's sad to see all the congratulations though when I know for a fact many of the buyers don't even have $500 in savings. Just reinforces bad decision making!

Right? Except on my feed it was all "Plane ticket to Iceland! YOLO" and "Off to the Electric Forest Festival ya'll!"   At least a car has some residual value if you need to sell it later...

But wait, I thought you were supposed to spend your money on experiences not things! 

Have I got this wrong?  Should i stop traveling and doing activities i love and start buying stuff instead?

/sarc

Then you get to experience crushing debt.

[kayvent]

I wonder why people post pictures of their new vehicles so often? Is this something they're proud of? Was it difficult, but whew! they made it!?

I always find it hilarious when people are like "OMG CONGRATULATIONS!!"... it's not like they graduated from college or climbed Mt. Everest or anything else that's actually an achievement worthy of congratulation.

I always want to comment "Congratulations on not having abysmal credit and qualifying for your loan!"

If I posted a picture of a candy bar I bought I don't think people would congratulates me. *pout*

More seriously - I know some people do consider it an achievement to be able to spend that much money on something but I don't think they stop to consider that if something is financed then it's not really their money that was spent (up front at least). I also assume that if they're posting a picture of it to Facebook it's probably financed. This may be unfair of me.

I guess you don't surf instagram? Plenty of food pics there.

[Zaga]

I bought a new car with cash a few years ago, and I did post a pic on facebook.  I wonder how many of the people who saw that pic realized that I paid for it in cash?

I don't think the dealership even kept track of that.  Got a call last month asking if I'd be interested in a new car if they could keep my payments the same.  Um, if you can get me a new car with just the trade in of my old car?  Still no, I've just gotten this thing broken in, it only has 25K miles on it!

[LeRainDrop]

I bought a new car with cash a few years ago, and I did post a pic on facebook.  I wonder how many of the people who saw that pic realized that I paid for it in cash?

I was thinking the same thing -- all these people on the forum assuming that a photo of a new car equals financing and other consumer debt, that's jumping to conclusions quite a bit.  It may be a reasonable assumption in many cases, but certainly not all!

[Metric Mouse]

Let's all make stupid, non-responsible decisions based only on instant gratification and not worry about the future, the money will appear magically.

I agree! If one consciously chooses to enjoy some of the prime years of their life, with the knowledge that they  may have to work into their fifties or sixties before they can retire, that's freaking awesome!  I'm sure they'll be incredibly happy in their decision.

I wouldn't call money appearing in the future 'magic', but the amount of available capital slushing around the world, and the impossible number of ways to obtain some of it, is truly awesome, on the magnitude of an actively exploding volcano!

[mm1970]

Let's all make stupid, non-responsible decisions based only on instant gratification and not worry about the future, the money will appear magically.

I agree! If one consciously chooses to enjoy some of the prime years of their life, with the knowledge that they  may have to work into their fifties or sixties before they can retire, that's freaking awesome!  I'm sure they'll be incredibly happy in their decision.

I wouldn't call money appearing in the future 'magic', but the amount of available capital slushing around the world, and the impossible number of ways to obtain some of it, is truly awesome, on the magnitude of an actively exploding volcano!

Well, to be the counter point, I know a number of people in their 50s and 60s who cannot find work.  Everything from skilled engineers to people in construction (who can find work but cannot physically do the work anymore) to people in the film industry (I know a few cameramen, for example, who are in their 50s and whose bodies cannot handle the current trend of "carrying around the camera").

I had a conversation with a consultant in his 50s or 60s, recently, who described himself as "unemployable" (and he has been for about a decade).  He consults for companies - 2 years here, 3 years there.  He's one of the lucky ones.

[TheGrimSqueaker]

Just found on my Facebook wall, posted by one of my former colleagues. Translated into english it means: "I don't spend, I reward myself" (in French, these two words rhyme). Ugh.

Her comment that she put along with it was that it's "good for the soul".

Like many French maxims, this can be read in more than one way. We can read it as a rationalization of (over-)spending as a reward to oneself, which is of course repugnant, or we can read it as a renunciation of overspending in order to truly reward oneself in the long term, which is brilliantly Mustachian.

[dragoncar]

Just found on my Facebook wall, posted by one of my former colleagues. Translated into english it means: "I don't spend, I reward myself" (in French, these two words rhyme). Ugh.

Her comment that she put along with it was that it's "good for the soul".

Like many French maxims, this can be read in more than one way. We can read it as a rationalization of (over-)spending as a reward to oneself, which is of course repugnant, or we can read it as a renunciation of overspending in order to truly reward oneself in the long term, which is brilliantly Mustachian.

That cool!  American maxims are similar... For example:

"I don't shut up, I grow up, and when I look at you I throw up"

[mustachepungoeshere]

Just found on my Facebook wall, posted by one of my former colleagues. Translated into english it means: "I don't spend, I reward myself" (in French, these two words rhyme). Ugh.

Her comment that she put along with it was that it's "good for the soul".

Like many French maxims, this can be read in more than one way. We can read it as a rationalization of (over-)spending as a reward to oneself, which is of course repugnant, or we can read it as a renunciation of overspending in order to truly reward oneself in the long term, which is brilliantly Mustachian.

That cool!  American maxims are similar... For example:

"I don't shut up, I grow up, and when I look at you I throw up"

ಠ_ಠ

[LeRainDrop]

Just found on my Facebook wall, posted by one of my former colleagues. Translated into english it means: "I don't spend, I reward myself" (in French, these two words rhyme). Ugh.

Her comment that she put along with it was that it's "good for the soul".

Like many French maxims, this can be read in more than one way. We can read it as a rationalization of (over-)spending as a reward to oneself, which is of course repugnant, or we can read it as a renunciation of overspending in order to truly reward oneself in the long term, which is brilliantly Mustachian.

That cool!  American maxims are similar... For example:

"I don't shut up, I grow up, and when I look at you I throw up"

You forgot the last line!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsSA_C4Tfm8

[Travis]

I bought a new car with cash a few years ago, and I did post a pic on facebook.  I wonder how many of the people who saw that pic realized that I paid for it in cash?

I was thinking the same thing -- all these people on the forum assuming that a photo of a new car equals financing and other consumer debt, that's jumping to conclusions quite a bit.  It may be a reasonable assumption in many cases, but certainly not all!

With no other context that conclusion might be reaching; however, I usually make that assumption when I know the person posting the pic is not the saving type.

[Metric Mouse]

I posted a picture of a sports car that was borrowed  to me for a few weeks parked in the driveway of my house. I can only imagine what everyone thought a jobless wonder was doing with a mid five-figure vehicle...  So appearances can be misleading.

[mustachepungoeshere]

I posted a picture of a sports car that was borrowed  to me for a few weeks parked in the driveway of my house. I can only imagine what everyone thought a jobless wonder was doing with a mid five-figure vehicle...  So appearances can be misleading.

In the space of three days, my husband brought home three performance cars totalling $1 million.

Word in our apartment building is that we're drug dealers.

[Metric Mouse]

Word in our apartment building is that we're drug dealers.

Not sure if that makes you more or less safe... Will probably keep the trick-or-treaters away at any rate. :D

I don't think the price of all of the privately owned vehicles I've driven in my life would total 1.5 million USD...

[Playing with Fire UK]

In the space of three days, my husband brought home three performance cars totalling $1 million.

Eye skipped the bolded word first time around. Spat out coffee. Thought you were horribly lost in mmm. Reread with more care. Chuckled. Reread and identified that you didn't specify that cars were not purchased by husband. Concerned.

Please confirm that you/husband did not buy $1 million of cars in three days.

[mustachepungoeshere]

In the space of three days, my husband brought home three performance cars totalling $1 million.

Eye skipped the bolded word first time around. Spat out coffee. Thought you were horribly lost in mmm. Reread with more care. Chuckled. Reread and identified that you didn't specify that cars were not purchased by husband. Concerned.

Please confirm that you/husband did not buy $1 million of cars in three days.

Work perk. He did not buy them.

Sorry about your coffee. :)

[Kitsune]

With no other context that conclusion might be reaching; however, I usually make that assumption when I know the person posting the pic is not the saving type.

True. In my case all the people that I think would be likely to post pictures of a new car purchase, given the other kinds of things they post about, are also the people who are not good at saving.

This. Every single person I know who has posted bragging pictures of a new car/truck has been whining about car payments within 2 months.

We're gonna need a second car in 18 months. We'll probably get another Honda Fit, since our current one suits our needs so well. We'all buy it cash, unless the dealer has a 0% financing that makes more sense in the long run. And we won't be posting pictures online - of all tacky and ostentatious things to do.

[Papa Mustache]

Word in our apartment building is that we're drug dealers.

Not sure if that makes you more or less safe... Will probably keep the trick-or-treaters away at any rate. :D

I don't think the price of all of the privately owned vehicles I've driven in my life would total 1.5 million USD...

I'm not sure that all ~30 of the cars I've owned would total $125K. ;)

(When I was single I R&R'd cars to sell. I basically drove for free for a long time).

That silver Ford truck picture was so similar to one that someone posted on FB that my DW knows that I thought we knew the same people. Alas, wrong state. That friend is all googly eyes about a p/u after recently buying another type of vehicle. Can't really afford either one (we hear about their financial difficulties).

I love cars and trucks new and old. Fascinated by some of them. Still not really sure why anyone would want a painful budget to own one that they could not afford. Can't go anywhere. Can't afford to do anything. Always stressed. Why not rent one once a year and go on a driving vacation?

Or - what I tell some people with that itch for a new car - get whatever you already owned detailed and see if that renews the love a little.  If nothing else it might bring more money if they sell it.

I detail my own cars for nearly nothing for the cost of some soap, etc. but I recognize the average person won't be bothered and would rather pay someone.

[[a]bort]

Someone posted a crowd funding campaign to get a growth surgically removed from his dogs face. It's only $300, but he doesn't have the money because, "I can't find a job I like in my field of graphic design."

[Kitsune]

Someone posted a crowd funding campaign to get a growth surgically removed from his dogs face. It's only $300, but he doesn't have the money because, "I can't find a job I like in my field of graphic design."

Oh god this is like when my brother quits his job because 'he's not happy there'. Or my SIL refuses to go find a job because 'I don't think I'd like it'. Like, I don't fucking work for my health, and I've stayed in jobs that made me unhappy while actively working to find one that would make me less so, because I have responsibilities to meet and I don't want to drain my savings/mooch from my family while I find something that makes ME happy (and thus stick my family with staying in jobs that don't make THEM happy to benefit ME...). In other words: if you're hustling and need help, I'll see what I can do. If you're watching vintage Dr Who in the basement all day and asking for cash, try another sucker.

If you have the funds to supply your own needs, don't work, sure. Mustachianism yay! But if you're begging for cash from everyone you know, then... maybe do something you don't like, get on your feet, and move on to something better from there.

[MgoSam]

Someone posted a crowd funding campaign to get a growth surgically removed from his dogs face. It's only $300, but he doesn't have the money because, "I can't find a job I like in my field of graphic design."

Oh god this is like when my brother quits his job because 'he's not happy there'. Or my SIL refuses to go find a job because 'I don't think I'd like it'.

Well said. I like my job most of the days, but about a quarter of them I absolute loathe it. This for me is motivation to do a great job, and get out of Dodge as soon as possible.

[runningthroughFIRE]

Someone posted a crowd funding campaign to get a growth surgically removed from his dogs face. It's only $300, but he doesn't have the money because, "I can't find a job I like in my field of graphic design."

Oh god this is like when my brother quits his job because 'he's not happy there'. Or my SIL refuses to go find a job because 'I don't think I'd like it'.

Well said. I like my job most of the days, but about a quarter of them I absolute loathe it. This for me is motivation to do a great job, and get out of Dodge as soon as possible.

One of my buddies from high school actually got a graphic design job after a few months of searching around after graduation.  He moved halfway across the country to Florida, then quit 3 months later because he didn't like it.  He's back home with his mom now.

In his defense, he's working full time at a retail store and looking for another design job, doing one-off work where he can find it for now.  I would have given the Florida job at least a year before deciding to move all the way back to Ohio, though.

[Papa Mustache]

I know one that hasn't been able to find a graphic design job since the Great Recession. Has lived in the family basement ever since. I think there are other issues. ;)

[LeRainDrop]

Oh god this is like when my brother quits his job because 'he's not happy there'. Or my SIL refuses to go find a job because 'I don't think I'd like it'. Like, I don't fucking work for my health, and I've stayed in jobs that made me unhappy while actively working to find one that would make me less so, because I have responsibilities to meet and I don't want to drain my savings/mooch from my family while I find something that makes ME happy (and thus stick my family with staying in jobs that don't make THEM happy to benefit ME...). In other words: if you're hustling and need help, I'll see what I can do. If you're watching vintage Dr Who in the basement all day and asking for cash, try another sucker.

If you have the funds to supply your own needs, don't work, sure. Mustachianism yay! But if you're begging for cash from everyone you know, then... maybe do something you don't like, get on your feet, and move on to something better from there.

YES!!!  Would you believe that every boss my brother ever had in his teens and 20's was an "asshole," and so he was right to tell off each of them, quit the job, and take several months on break, mooching off mom and dad, before looking for a new job?

[brute]

Oh god this is like when my brother quits his job because 'he's not happy there'. Or my SIL refuses to go find a job because 'I don't think I'd like it'. Like, I don't fucking work for my health, and I've stayed in jobs that made me unhappy while actively working to find one that would make me less so, because I have responsibilities to meet and I don't want to drain my savings/mooch from my family while I find something that makes ME happy (and thus stick my family with staying in jobs that don't make THEM happy to benefit ME...). In other words: if you're hustling and need help, I'll see what I can do. If you're watching vintage Dr Who in the basement all day and asking for cash, try another sucker.

If you have the funds to supply your own needs, don't work, sure. Mustachianism yay! But if you're begging for cash from everyone you know, then... maybe do something you don't like, get on your feet, and move on to something better from there.

Makes me think back to my jerk bosses.

Boss 1: Expected me to do my job without supervision. What a jerk.

Boss 2: Would spend an hour swearing at us each morning and then make us stand in line and recite the company motto. Actual jerk

Boss 3: Asked me to commit credit card fraud for him. Other than that, not bad.

YES!!!  Would you believe that every boss my brother ever had in his teens and 20's was an "asshole," and so he was right to tell off each of them, quit the job, and take several months on break, mooching off mom and dad, before looking for a new job?

[merula]

I posted a picture of a sports car that was borrowed  to me for a few weeks parked in the driveway of my house. I can only imagine what everyone thought a jobless wonder was doing with a mid five-figure vehicle...  So appearances can be misleading.

Are you from the Upper Midwest?

[Kitsune]

Oh god this is like when my brother quits his job because 'he's not happy there'. Or my SIL refuses to go find a job because 'I don't think I'd like it'. Like, I don't fucking work for my health, and I've stayed in jobs that made me unhappy while actively working to find one that would make me less so, because I have responsibilities to meet and I don't want to drain my savings/mooch from my family while I find something that makes ME happy (and thus stick my family with staying in jobs that don't make THEM happy to benefit ME...). In other words: if you're hustling and need help, I'll see what I can do. If you're watching vintage Dr Who in the basement all day and asking for cash, try another sucker.

If you have the funds to supply your own needs, don't work, sure. Mustachianism yay! But if you're begging for cash from everyone you know, then... maybe do something you don't like, get on your feet, and move on to something better from there.

YES!!!  Would you believe that every boss my brother ever had in his teens and 20's was an "asshole," and so he was right to tell off each of them, quit the job, and take several months on break, mooching off mom and dad, before looking for a new job?

Well, they were obviously such assholes that he "deserved" the break, right?

[MrsDinero]

[quote author=LeRainDrop link=topic=6907.msg1156415#msg1156415
YES!!!  Would you believe that every boss my brother ever had in his teens and 20's was an "asshole," and so he was right to tell off each of them, quit the job, and take several months on break, mooching off mom and dad, before looking for a new job?
[/quote]

Are we related?  My brother does this all the time, even now in his 40's.  My parents did cut off the mooching.

[Papa Mustache]

This sounds like the guy I knew that had confrontation troubles everywhere he went. Then I spent some more time with him and realized that he was his own biggest problem. They just can't see it. I have no idea why.

[frugalamber]

I have a overhead: one of the moms in my mom group is studying; and her husband is out of job. She is always short on money and was telling us 3 days back how they manage with food bank and putting the mortgage on hold etc; last night another mom asked about Disney world trip and this short on money mom with 2 kids - 3.5 -4 years old and 1.5 years old kids - was telling her how they booked a full family trip with dining plans in disney as they are so good and food is costly. She also informed the rest that for dining plans with disney u need to stay in disney resorts.

My hubby suggested to post a link of MMM in that fb post; but i am sure the ladies there will be offended as i see it is a very obvious that most spend more than they earn.

[TheGrimSqueaker]

Oh god this is like when my brother quits his job because 'he's not happy there'. Or my SIL refuses to go find a job because 'I don't think I'd like it'. Like, I don't fucking work for my health, and I've stayed in jobs that made me unhappy while actively working to find one that would make me less so, because I have responsibilities to meet and I don't want to drain my savings/mooch from my family while I find something that makes ME happy (and thus stick my family with staying in jobs that don't make THEM happy to benefit ME...). In other words: if you're hustling and need help, I'll see what I can do. If you're watching vintage Dr Who in the basement all day and asking for cash, try another sucker.

If you have the funds to supply your own needs, don't work, sure. Mustachianism yay! But if you're begging for cash from everyone you know, then... maybe do something you don't like, get on your feet, and move on to something better from there.

YES!!!  Would you believe that every boss my brother ever had in his teens and 20's was an "asshole," and so he was right to tell off each of them, quit the job, and take several months on break, mooching off mom and dad, before looking for a new job?

My brother too, only his issues have continued well into his 30's. No matter what employment situation he's ever had (which generally ends when he gets drunk and tells his boss what he thinks of him), my dad in particular has gone to bat for his Poor Abused Son Who Just Can't Catch A Break. Sometimes it involved pulling strings to get him (another) job. Other times it involved calling in for him or dropping in on his employer to explain why my brother was Too Sick (after a weekend binge) to come to work, or why he Really Deserved Another Chance.

In reality, my brother's his own worst enemy. He and I once had the same employer, and although the job had its challenges the boss wasn't one of them.

[MgoSam]

This sounds like the guy I knew that had confrontation troubles everywhere he went. Then I spent some more time with him and realized that he was his own biggest problem. They just can't see it. I have no idea why.

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." -Raylan Givens

[pachnik]

This sounds like the guy I knew that had confrontation troubles everywhere he went. Then I spent some more time with him and realized that he was his own biggest problem. They just can't see it. I have no idea why.

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." -Raylan Givens

+1  I love this quote.  It made me LOL! Thanks. 

[Lunasol]

I have a overhead: one of the moms in my mom group is studying; and her husband is out of job. She is always short on money and was telling us 3 days back how they manage with food bank and putting the mortgage on hold etc; last night another mom asked about Disney world trip and this short on money mom with 2 kids - 3.5 -4 years old and 1.5 years old kids - was telling her how they booked a full family trip with dining plans in disney as they are so good and food is costly. She also informed the rest that for dining plans with disney u need to stay in disney resorts.

My hubby suggested to post a link of MMM in that fb post; but i am sure the ladies there will be offended as i see it is a very obvious that most spend more than they earn.

Was it a future trip or a past trip from when the husband had a job?

[MishMash]

Oh god this is like when my brother quits his job because 'he's not happy there'. Or my SIL refuses to go find a job because 'I don't think I'd like it'. Like, I don't fucking work for my health, and I've stayed in jobs that made me unhappy while actively working to find one that would make me less so, because I have responsibilities to meet and I don't want to drain my savings/mooch from my family while I find something that makes ME happy (and thus stick my family with staying in jobs that don't make THEM happy to benefit ME...). In other words: if you're hustling and need help, I'll see what I can do. If you're watching vintage Dr Who in the basement all day and asking for cash, try another sucker.

If you have the funds to supply your own needs, don't work, sure. Mustachianism yay! But if you're begging for cash from everyone you know, then... maybe do something you don't like, get on your feet, and move on to something better from there.

YES!!!  Would you believe that every boss my brother ever had in his teens and 20's was an "asshole," and so he was right to tell off each of them, quit the job, and take several months on break, mooching off mom and dad, before looking for a new job?

Psh, only in his 20's was every boss an asshole?  Let me introduce you to my brother, 45, living with my mother, and hasn't been at a single job IN HIS LIFE for 2 years or more.  Usually he either gets fired for physical anger issues, or tells off his boss because "they weren't doing things the right way", which generally leads to a firing.  The longest in the past 10 years was a year at a job.  Usually he's there until he has enough time to collect unemployment again.  He's never wrong, everyone else is an asshole etc etc. 

In fairness he lived on his own from 18-35, usually got kicked out of apartments for non payment, parents helped him buy a place with his ex (gifted him the deposit), it ended up being sold to a junker in the divorce/bankruptcy/forclosure, they had TRASHED the house beyond even a flippers ability to want to repair at the height of the market. 

Had a harsh heart to heart with mom that she HAS to at least get a renters agreement from him (I'm executor of her estate) and that he needs to oh I dunno, ACTUALLY start paying some bills around the house. 

The ex was no gem either, her daughter found out when she went to apply for an apartment lease that mommy dearest had stolen her identity and racked up 60k in credit card debt in her name.  My niece refused to file a police report but it makes me SUPER happy that I told her no when she asked me to cosign her college loans.

[Dollar Slice]

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." -Raylan Givens

This is basically my self-applied litmus test for knowing when I have PMS. "Damnit, what is WRONG with everyone today, it's like EVERYONE I meet is a.... ooooooooooh. Right."

[mm1970]

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." -Raylan Givens

This is basically my self-applied litmus test for knowing when I have PMS. "Damnit, what is WRONG with everyone today, it's like EVERYONE I meet is a.... ooooooooooh. Right."

ha me too.  And that's when I realize maybe I should just hide in my office and avoid all meetings.  And eat ALL the chocolate and drink ALL the wine.

[ender]

Word in our apartment building is that we're drug dealers.

Not sure if that makes you more or less safe... Will probably keep the trick-or-treaters away at any rate. :D

I don't think the price of all of the privately owned vehicles I've driven in my life would total 1.5 million USD...

It'd be pretty easy for me to have hit 1.5 million USD given how much large machinery/equipment I've driven, even if just for a bit.

Doesn't take very many to hit 1.5M in that case ;-)

[AlanStache]

Word in our apartment building is that we're drug dealers.

Not sure if that makes you more or less safe... Will probably keep the trick-or-treaters away at any rate. :D

I don't think the price of all of the privately owned vehicles I've driven in my life would total 1.5 million USD...

It'd be pretty easy for me to have hit 1.5 million USD given how much large machinery/equipment I've driven, even if just for a bit.

Doesn't take very many to hit 1.5M in that case ;-)

Can we count airplanes too?

[ender]

Word in our apartment building is that we're drug dealers.

Not sure if that makes you more or less safe... Will probably keep the trick-or-treaters away at any rate. :D

I don't think the price of all of the privately owned vehicles I've driven in my life would total 1.5 million USD...

It'd be pretty easy for me to have hit 1.5 million USD given how much large machinery/equipment I've driven, even if just for a bit.

Doesn't take very many to hit 1.5M in that case ;-)

Can we count airplanes too?

Only if you've driven them. ;)

[frugalamber]

I have a overhead: one of the moms in my mom group is studying; and her husband is out of job. She is always short on money and was telling us 3 days back how they manage with food bank and putting the mortgage on hold etc; last night another mom asked about Disney world trip and this short on money mom with 2 kids - 3.5 -4 years old and 1.5 years old kids - was telling her how they booked a full family trip with dining plans in disney as they are so good and food is costly. She also informed the rest that for dining plans with disney u need to stay in disney resorts.

My hubby suggested to post a link of MMM in that fb post; but i am sure the ladies there will be offended as i see it is a very obvious that most spend more than they earn.

Was it a future trip or a past trip from when the husband had a job?

Future trip in coming November.

[nr]

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[LeRainDrop]

I've found another gem!  Now, finally, you can wear the watches you never thought you could afford!  Rent a watch for 3 months and return it for another!

Up to $799/month to RENT watches...

What a bargain!  /s/