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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6800 on: February 10, 2015, 01:09:53 PM »
Maybe they already agreed to get married and they’re just staging this for friends and family? Which would be worse, really, but at least then he’s not wasting $7K for a “no.”

One of the most uncomfortable things I ever witnessed was a public proposal by a guy to a coworker at her going-away party. She clearly wanted to say no, but said yes anyway because she didn’t want to embarrass him in front of everybody. I heard later that they didn’t get married.

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« Reply #6801 on: February 10, 2015, 01:12:23 PM »
Maybe they already agreed to get married and they’re just staging this for friends and family? Which would be worse, really, but at least then he’s not wasting $7K for a “no.”

One of the most uncomfortable things I ever witnessed was a public proposal by a guy to a coworker at her going-away party. She clearly wanted to say no, but said yes anyway because she didn’t want to embarrass him in front of everybody. I heard later that they didn’t get married.
Reasons why I've never proposed in public, #1-n, right there.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6802 on: February 10, 2015, 01:42:10 PM »
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It may be mean, but I'll laugh like hell if she says no.
The whole thing is a farce to begin with. Seven grand to prove you really mean it when you ask? For fuck's sake guy, if she doesn't already know you wanna marry her by now, you're not communicating. And if by some grave misfortune she's the kind of awful human being who actually wants this kind of spectacle, the disaster has only begun for both of them.

From things he's said--I only started hearing about this yesterday--the "wanting the production number" thing may be in play.  Then again, I've seen a picture of her and I'm pretty sure the guy wants to seal the deal because looks-wise he's boxing WAY outside his weight with her.

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« Reply #6803 on: February 10, 2015, 01:56:19 PM »
When I was in high school a friend said "We are planning on getting engaged when I turn 18". I was baffled. I thought you were already engaged once you planned to get married, I didn't think it was a separate process, at least not from the girl's standpoint.

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« Reply #6804 on: February 10, 2015, 02:09:33 PM »
When I was in high school a friend said "We are planning on getting engaged when I turn 18". I was baffled. I thought you were already engaged once you planned to get married, I didn't think it was a separate process, at least not from the girl's standpoint.

Ehh...I think there's a difference between knowing you both want to marry each other at some point in the future, and actively being engaged to be married at some point in the near-ish future. 

I skipped the engagement part :D Well, I guess I was engaged from the time we woke up and he said "Let's get married today" to the time we did the 'ceremony' that evening.  But I never called him my fiance before that day, despite owning a house together and both of us being very sure we would someday get married.

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« Reply #6805 on: February 10, 2015, 07:28:44 PM »

I seriously don't get this. 

I have had a couple of conversations with people.  I don't remember who anymore - people with older kids than me?  Or same age kids?  Talking about cars.

"Well wait until your boys are 16 and you have to get them a car!"
"Um, no"
"Sure, you will, how else will they get around?"
"on foot, by bike, by bus?"
"Oh, you can't do that!"

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Um, the same ways they have for the first 16 years, whatever means that may be. I remember a buddy in high school, from a well-to-do family, talking about turning 16.

Bud 1 (Consumer Reports in hand): "My dad told me if I want to get a new car when I turn sixteen, I have to research it."
Bud 2, laughing at bud 1: "My dad told me to pay for it."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6806 on: February 10, 2015, 10:31:02 PM »
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6807 on: February 11, 2015, 01:17:44 AM »
Maybe they already agreed to get married and they’re just staging this for friends and family? Which would be worse, really, but at least then he’s not wasting $7K for a “no.”

One of the most uncomfortable things I ever witnessed was a public proposal by a guy to a coworker at her going-away party. She clearly wanted to say no, but said yes anyway because she didn’t want to embarrass him in front of everybody. I heard later that they didn’t get married.
Reasons why I've never proposed in public, #1-n, right there.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql0y-pHZUyk

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6808 on: February 11, 2015, 06:03:29 AM »
I used to manage a team reporting to Boss A. After a few weeks, Boss B, who was friends with Boss A's wife, said that Wife was so grateful I was hired, because she finally had her husband back. Boss A used to get into work around 6 AM, leave around 9 PM, and had an hour+ commute. After I started, he was able to cut back his hours to 6 AM - 6 PM (ish). Quality family time was now available for a couple hours each night! That comment should've been a huge warning sign to me, as I soon became the person working all day, every day.

During one time period when we were all working from home, Boss A called me around 9 PM. I had fallen asleep after a special workout and woke up frantic. He wanted to know if I could take a look at something he was curious about. Yeah - tomorrow. Or maybe next week. It wasn't urgent whatsoever.

He went on a family vacation in Europe for a week and set up his out of office message to refer everyone to me. Standard. I ended up constantly getting duplicate emails, because someone would email him asking for something, get the out of office, and forward it to me. Within the hour, I would get the same email forwarded from Boss A, because he wasn't sure if I had gotten it. I told him multiple times that he didn't need to do that, to no avail. The way I see it, if someone is too lazy or unaware to follow instructions like "hey send this to MonkeyJenga," they deserve to wait a week for their request.

This guy must've been pulling in low 6 figures for many years, but he was completely addicted to work. I don't know anything about his finances, but I almost get the feeling he would keep working at a job that clearly stressed him out even if he came into a million dollars.

This post just made me sick to my stomach...Reminds me of a boss I worked for.  He was completely incompetent, al "Baffle em with bullshit" type.  Hired me on, I had no management experience, yet found myself managing multiple high-end cabinet installers, coordinating with multiple high-end resort type residential builders...and I was killing it.

Fast forward to the annual Christmas party.  His wife says to my wife "Please thank your husband for me, I finally have my husband back."  My wife's response "can I have mine back?  He's always working."  She's never one to bite her tongue!

Ugh.  To make matters worse, I have nothing to show for all of my hard work and fat paychecks.  I couldn't spend it fast enough...

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« Reply #6809 on: February 11, 2015, 09:34:27 AM »
With Bitch I Got A Man Valentine's Day coming up, one of my male coworkers is planning on proposing to his girlfriend that night.  He's already dropped a huge amount on the ring and is doing what I call a Production Number Proposal (renting out a restaurant so all her family and friends can be there).  Including the cost of the ring this guy is spending close to SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.  On a PROPOSAL. 

And just last week he was complaining about how tight money was for him. 

It may be mean, but I'll laugh like hell if she says no.

Plus he's setting up a nice expectation for every other future big event!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6810 on: February 11, 2015, 10:03:52 AM »
Hubs and I both just received simultaneous facepunches in our workplaces this morning.

My VP of FINANCE (mid 50's) just walked up to me and goes "Wow, I've learned more about the 401k system from you in the past week then I ever knew before".  How did this come about you may ask, we are switching our 401k from a super expensive mutual fund company to Vanguard and I asked him if we could 1.  chose our new Vangaurd funds prior to the black out period for transfer and 2.  Would this effect my front loading in any way that I needed to know about....he didn't realize you could contribute 100% of your paycheck to your 401k.

My husbands new COL just called him into the office for counseling (standard in the military).  Due to the nature of his job in the military there is a BIG push to make sure that people in the unit are financially stable both for peace of mind, and to lesser the chance for corruption/bribes etc, financial talk is part of every briefing and counseling pretty much. 

COL "So, is everything OK financially"
DH:  "Yes sir"
COL:  "You know, having savings is an important part of unit and family stability, what are your savings plan for the future"
DH:  "well sir, right now we are front loading my wifes 401k to max it out for the year over the next couple of months, then we will do the same with my TSP (he's heading to a 10month schooling here in a bit so no chance of a deployment again this year)"
COL:  "That's impressive that you can save $5000 dollars in such a short period of time!"
DH:  "Uh, sir, I think you are thinking of the IRA limits of 5500, 401k is 18k this year" (and yes, I think he should have just kept his mouth shut)
COL: *Blink, Blink* "Oh...well what are your other long term goals"
DH:  "Well, we are on plan to hit 7 figures in the next couple of years, after that I will finish out my 20 and then we plan on retiring."
COL:  " So it sounds like you are setting yourself up for an easy transition into your next job, that's great!  Wait...Did you say SEVEN figures?!?!"
DH:  "Yes sir"
COL:  *Blink Blink*  "Uh, ok so I guess I don't have to do these financial discussions with you in the future, you want to write me up a questionnaire of things I SHOULD be asking your coworkers?"
DH:  "Uh, I guess I can put something together"

Yea, pretty sure he just stepped into a pile of something he wants no part of.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6811 on: February 11, 2015, 10:06:14 AM »
HA, forgot to mention on mine, his title is VP of Finance, but he's actually the standing CFO since our last one quit 3 months ago.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6812 on: February 11, 2015, 10:07:48 AM »
Hubs and I both just received simultaneous facepunches in our workplaces this morning.
Received? I believe you mean doled out?

Yea, pretty sure he just stepped into a pile of something he wants no part of.
Agreed, this is probably not going to go well

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6813 on: February 11, 2015, 10:18:30 AM »


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6814 on: February 11, 2015, 12:25:49 PM »
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql0y-pHZUyk
#2 is too wonderful to be true. There's no way. (but we can hope)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6815 on: February 11, 2015, 01:10:53 PM »
I cant believe this one that came to me this morning:

CW1: My dad just complete building a 747 cockpit in his basement...
CW2: Wow,  great! Whit everything? Knobs, lights etc?
CW1: Sure, he think the cost of that project is arround 30k$
CW2: Not bad, anyway, what else to do with free time and $$ when you retire in early 50's like your Dad did?!

What a turn off for ER goal!

To each his own, I would prefer to go hicking, free weight training, mountain bike, buy fixer-uppers (for flip or rent), travel, chill-out, read, art-craft etc

My dad would have totally loved having a 747 cockpit in his basement, and could have afforded it, if he had thought of it.  And if CW's "Dad" retired in his early 50's (which is early compared to most of the world) maybe he has plenty of dough for the splurge.  It does seem like an odd hobby, but I'm pretty sure that your hobbies are also not everyone's cup of tea either (even though many of them are mine).

I think it sounds neat too, especially if you put in giant screens for the cockpit "windows" and hook up a flight simulator.

Different strokes I guess.  I spent five years designing and debugging full functioning cockpit simulators for military jets and helicopters.  It sounds an awful lot like work to me.  :P


As an aside . . . flying a helicopter is way the fuck cooler than flying a plane.  It's like the difference between driving a train and driving a car.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6816 on: February 11, 2015, 02:37:40 PM »
I have never understood those who get upset by the automatic credit limit increases. As others have said, my credit limit has no bearing on how much I spend. I am curious to hear the reasons of those who called to get their limits lowered again. Is it because of the impact to your credit score? Or maybe just the principle of a change being made to your account without you consent?

For my early-twenties self, it was a combo of 1) knowing that the company was hoping I was a consumer sucka and that raising my credit limit was not done out of the goodness of their hearts, but to get me to spend more; and 2) yes, the principle of having this done without my consent.  It was the reflex of someone who has always had a healthy distrust of consumerism and the structures that have been created to take advantage of people's lack of self-control.  At that point in my life, I was still feeling my way, and wanted no extra opportunities to fall into a debt trap.

These days, many years later, I know myself well enough that my credit card limit doesn't affect my behavior, so I don't care if it's raised.  But back then, the horror that anyone could ever possibly put THAT much on a credit card made me have them lower it out of shock and indignation.

Yeah a few things
1) They did it without my consent. Just not a fan of that.
2) Lower credit limits, in the extreme case that I become a victim of identify theft(which has happened to me), just gives a thief less to steal. For the record, my bank did make amends for the criminal purchases.
3) Perhaps some of you are more financially disciplined but my best self discipline has always been to keep credit limits low and money out of sight out of mind. In general I think avoidance of temptation is the best way to avoid making a mistake, and that doesn't just apply to my money habits. I'm much more disciplined with my cash than I am with say, cookies :)

They're not stealing your money. They're stealing the CC's. Don't worry, it'll get fixed. Debit is scarier because that is your money but banks will fix those issues too.

I like to increase my limits because who cares? We only spend money we have so it doesn't matter to us.

A few years ago the CC company increased my limit by $1000, I always looked at the "credit available" line on my webbanking as that's the only one that's updated up to the minute (it's weird, we're evaluating CC options). So having checked my credit available amount I used my card, only a few days later to figure out that I spent an extra couple hundred bucks. I'm a lot more ontop of my finances now, but I am still adamant that they not increase the limit and disable that touch to pay BS, my wife and I are still in the stuble stages of Mustache and keeping a low credit limit is crucial right now.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6817 on: February 11, 2015, 02:56:13 PM »
I cant believe this one that came to me this morning:

CW1: My dad just complete building a 747 cockpit in his basement...
CW2: Wow,  great! Whit everything? Knobs, lights etc?
CW1: Sure, he think the cost of that project is arround 30k$
CW2: Not bad, anyway, what else to do with free time and $$ when you retire in early 50's like your Dad did?!

What a turn off for ER goal!

To each his own, I would prefer to go hicking, free weight training, mountain bike, buy fixer-uppers (for flip or rent), travel, chill-out, read, art-craft etc

My dad would have totally loved having a 747 cockpit in his basement, and could have afforded it, if he had thought of it.  And if CW's "Dad" retired in his early 50's (which is early compared to most of the world) maybe he has plenty of dough for the splurge.  It does seem like an odd hobby, but I'm pretty sure that your hobbies are also not everyone's cup of tea either (even though many of them are mine).

I think it sounds neat too, especially if you put in giant screens for the cockpit "windows" and hook up a flight simulator.

Different strokes I guess.  I spent five years designing and debugging full functioning cockpit simulators for military jets and helicopters.  It sounds an awful lot like work to me.  :P


As an aside . . . flying a helicopter is way the fuck cooler than flying a plane.  It's like the difference between driving a train and driving a car.

Based on my helicopter flight sim experience (DH worked on an army base as a civilian contractor for awhile and I got to visit and "fly"), it sounds pretty cool xD 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6818 on: February 11, 2015, 03:02:25 PM »
Maybe they already agreed to get married and they’re just staging this for friends and family? Which would be worse, really, but at least then he’s not wasting $7K for a “no.”

One of the most uncomfortable things I ever witnessed was a public proposal by a guy to a coworker at her going-away party. She clearly wanted to say no, but said yes anyway because she didn’t want to embarrass him in front of everybody. I heard later that they didn’t get married.
Reasons why I've never proposed in public, #1-n, right there.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql0y-pHZUyk

I especially like #4.  If you have seen the whole thing the announcer feels like a complete heel.  (after commenting to his buddy how he's seen too many of these) "You know what I'm just waiting once for the gal to say no! har-har"....(she says no, runs away)..."Uh...you know I was just joking"

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6819 on: February 11, 2015, 09:04:34 PM »
Hubs and I both just received simultaneous facepunches in our workplaces this morning.

My VP of FINANCE (mid 50's) just walked up to me and goes "Wow, I've learned more about the 401k system from you in the past week then I ever knew before".  How did this come about you may ask, we are switching our 401k from a super expensive mutual fund company to Vanguard and I asked him if we could 1.  chose our new Vangaurd funds prior to the black out period for transfer and 2.  Would this effect my front loading in any way that I needed to know about....he didn't realize you could contribute 100% of your paycheck to your 401k.

My husbands new COL just called him into the office for counseling (standard in the military).  Due to the nature of his job in the military there is a BIG push to make sure that people in the unit are financially stable both for peace of mind, and to lesser the chance for corruption/bribes etc, financial talk is part of every briefing and counseling pretty much. 

COL "So, is everything OK financially"
DH:  "Yes sir"
COL:  "You know, having savings is an important part of unit and family stability, what are your savings plan for the future"
DH:  "well sir, right now we are front loading my wifes 401k to max it out for the year over the next couple of months, then we will do the same with my TSP (he's heading to a 10month schooling here in a bit so no chance of a deployment again this year)"
COL:  "That's impressive that you can save $5000 dollars in such a short period of time!"
DH:  "Uh, sir, I think you are thinking of the IRA limits of 5500, 401k is 18k this year" (and yes, I think he should have just kept his mouth shut)
COL: *Blink, Blink* "Oh...well what are your other long term goals"
DH:  "Well, we are on plan to hit 7 figures in the next couple of years, after that I will finish out my 20 and then we plan on retiring."
COL:  " So it sounds like you are setting yourself up for an easy transition into your next job, that's great!  Wait...Did you say SEVEN figures?!?!"
DH:  "Yes sir"
COL:  *Blink Blink*  "Uh, ok so I guess I don't have to do these financial discussions with you in the future, you want to write me up a questionnaire of things I SHOULD be asking your coworkers?"
DH:  "Uh, I guess I can put something together"

Yea, pretty sure he just stepped into a pile of something he wants no part of.

I think it's actually really cool that his colonel asked him for advice!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6820 on: February 12, 2015, 05:00:29 AM »
Maybe they already agreed to get married and they’re just staging this for friends and family? Which would be worse, really, but at least then he’s not wasting $7K for a “no.”

One of the most uncomfortable things I ever witnessed was a public proposal by a guy to a coworker at her going-away party. She clearly wanted to say no, but said yes anyway because she didn’t want to embarrass him in front of everybody. I heard later that they didn’t get married.
Reasons why I've never proposed in public, #1-n, right there.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql0y-pHZUyk

I especially like #4.  If you have seen the whole thing the announcer feels like a complete heel.  (after commenting to his buddy how he's seen too many of these) "You know what I'm just waiting once for the gal to say no! har-har"....(she says no, runs away)..."Uh...you know I was just joking"

I couldn't watch to the end. It was just too painful.

It's a mystery to me why anyone thinks this is a good idea. Even if the other person wants to marry you, you've made it all about yourself and the audience, rather than it being a special moment for the two of you. It makes you look like a gigantic narcissist who doesn't actually care about the other person's feelings. I guess some people like being proposed to like that, though.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6821 on: February 12, 2015, 09:53:15 AM »
A few years ago the CC company increased my limit by $1000, I always looked at the "credit available" line on my webbanking as that's the only one that's updated up to the minute (it's weird, we're evaluating CC options). So having checked my credit available amount I used my card, only a few days later to figure out that I spent an extra couple hundred bucks. I'm a lot more ontop of my finances now, but I am still adamant that they not increase the limit and disable that touch to pay BS, my wife and I are still in the stuble stages of Mustache and keeping a low credit limit is crucial right now.
Keep flexing! Someday you too can have a credit limit that would buy a low-end new car, and never be tempted to abuse it... >.<
It's worth having just for the rewards, if you ever get the chance to put a major purchase on it (as long as it's something you need and can afford).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6822 on: February 12, 2015, 10:01:32 AM »
I couldn't watch to the end. It was just too painful.

Quite painful.  They ended with one that wasn't a fail though.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6823 on: February 12, 2015, 03:37:51 PM »
we got our 4th Quarter 401K Statements today at the office.

CW: I'm so excited to see my first return on my 401K money.
Me: What do you mean your 'first' return? Haven't you worked here like 10 years?
CW: Yeah. But I just signed up for the 401K plan a few months ago.

*head desk* This company provides a crazy good matching benefit that vests immediately. So CW has been missing out on 10 years of matching.

Meanwhile other CW comes over and we start comparing rates of return. I happen to see her 401K total balance is less than half of mine. This CW has worked here at least 7 years. I've worked here a little over 3.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6824 on: February 12, 2015, 07:15:09 PM »
CW: Eating out everyday is just worth it. Sure, at the end of the year you feel terrible and shocked about how much money you spent, but it's good to socialize and you have to eat anyway!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6825 on: February 12, 2015, 07:41:17 PM »
Girl at work a few weeks ago: "I cant afford to live where i want."

Last week: buys beach house with friends. Gets congratulated by another worker, "now thats when you know youre in another income bracket."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6826 on: February 13, 2015, 10:14:11 AM »
Guy at work probably spends $10 to $50 a week on coffee. Now, this isn’t that bad when you consider he is likely investing a large chunk of his income into the market, his house, and his education, and combine it with his income, and the true mean is probably about $15… But it still seems high to me. Interesting for me, because I do like to go out and get coffee about once a week, but here there are about 3 people that always want to go and are always inviting me. I’m getting better at saying “no” though (new job, I figured for awhile I should participate whenever they invite me… slowly backing out of it to about 1-2 times a week).

Now, I do something unmastachian fairly regularly. I grab a donut from the donut van probably 3 times a week. But I will do this until I am broke (and at $6 a week, I’m ok), they have to be made of crack and unicorn horn dust. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6827 on: February 13, 2015, 01:05:37 PM »
This is an OH@W and V-Day cross over, but I just overheard my co-worker berating FTD for not delivering flowers to his wife in accordance with their "guarantee".  Factors making this conversation rediculous:

1)  There are still 3 hours left in the day.
2)  Wife works on the same military installation, perhaps 2 miles from our office.
3)  Between our office and hers are several PX type stores which will have flowers available.
4)  They take separate vehicles into work so he could have stopped at a store on the way into work to get a lovely bouquet and still had the "surprise" factor.
5)  He wants his $69 back (holy crap!)

I can hear his blood pressure going up every moment he continues to drag this conversation out.

Wonder where the AED is....

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6828 on: February 13, 2015, 06:52:15 PM »
Co-worker A (beaming with pride), "We used Molly Maid for the first time this weekend. They're awesome. They did such a good job cleaning."
Co-worker B: "That's awesome. I've been thinking about using them. How much do they charge?"
Co-woker A: "$95 per hour. Sounds like a lot, but you get two of them. And you wouldn't believe how much work they did in 3 hours. We're having them in once per month for sure."

So Raging Ranter (that's me) overhears this sitting at his desk, quickly punches the numbers into Excel, multiplies $95 x 3 hours x 12 times per year x 5 years and comes up with..... $17,100. Of completely non-deductible expenses. And I'm not counting any return on investment, or any tax deduction for an RRSP contribution.

I nearly shit my pants. I did not even bother getting involved in the conversation. Did not ask a single question. Did not want to hear it. This guy is an analyst, drives a modest car, and is fairly smart and very good with numbers. It left me flabbergasted. I just sat there trying not to shit my pants.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6829 on: February 13, 2015, 08:47:37 PM »
Co-worker A (beaming with pride), "We used Molly Maid for the first time this weekend. They're awesome. They did such a good job cleaning."
Co-worker B: "That's awesome. I've been thinking about using them. How much do they charge?"
Co-woker A: "$95 per hour. Sounds like a lot, but you get two of them. And you wouldn't believe how much work they did in 3 hours. We're having them in once per month for sure."

So Raging Ranter (that's me) overhears this sitting at his desk, quickly punches the numbers into Excel, multiplies $95 x 3 hours x 12 times per year x 5 years and comes up with..... $17,100. Of completely non-deductible expenses. And I'm not counting any return on investment, or any tax deduction for an RRSP contribution.

I nearly shit my pants. I did not even bother getting involved in the conversation. Did not ask a single question. Did not want to hear it. This guy is an analyst, drives a modest car (older civic) and is fairly smart and very good with numbers. It left me flabbergasted. I just sat their trying not to shit my pants.

95$/hour for 2 is...95k$/year each!!! I will continue to scrub my toilet cuz my "real" job is only 80k$/year, gross.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6830 on: February 13, 2015, 10:06:00 PM »
Co-worker A (beaming with pride), "We used Molly Maid for the first time this weekend. They're awesome. They did such a good job cleaning."
Co-worker B: "That's awesome. I've been thinking about using them. How much do they charge?"
Co-woker A: "$95 per hour. Sounds like a lot, but you get two of them. And you wouldn't believe how much work they did in 3 hours. We're having them in once per month for sure."

So Raging Ranter (that's me) overhears this sitting at his desk, quickly punches the numbers into Excel, multiplies $95 x 3 hours x 12 times per year x 5 years and comes up with..... $17,100. Of completely non-deductible expenses. And I'm not counting any return on investment, or any tax deduction for an RRSP contribution.

I nearly shit my pants. I did not even bother getting involved in the conversation. Did not ask a single question. Did not want to hear it. This guy is an analyst, drives a modest car (older civic) and is fairly smart and very good with numbers. It left me flabbergasted. I just sat their trying not to shit my pants.

95$/hour for 2 is...95k$/year each!!! I will continue to scrub my toilet cuz my "real" job is only 80k$/year, gross.

That's only working time, thought -- they also have to drive from house to house.  But still, it's not a bad living.

Don't even ask what it costs to clean your shit-filled pants

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6831 on: February 13, 2015, 11:52:23 PM »

That's only working time, thought -- they also have to drive from house to house.  But still, it's not a bad living.

Don't even ask what it costs to clean your shit-filled pants

I really, really doubt the actual maids get paid much, if any, more than minimum wage.

http://www.indeed.com/cmp/Molly-Maid/salaries?from=reviews

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6832 on: February 14, 2015, 05:47:21 AM »
This is old, but I still get a kick out of it.

My first summer internship when I was 19, I was getting paid something like $13 an hour. Not mega bucks but excellent experience, and it was in the city my parents lived in so my expenses were zero.

Another intern started at the same time I did. The first Monday after we got our first paychecks, I walked in to the bathroom and saw him washing his hands. He was all excited because with his first paycheck he had gone and bought a TV.

I walked into the stall, and he repeated a few times that it "felt good to blow the money. felt good." I didn't respond, because (1) who talks to you while you're pooping? (2) what do you say to that?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6833 on: February 14, 2015, 10:01:43 AM »

Hubs and I both just received simultaneous facepunches in our workplaces this morning.

My VP of FINANCE (mid 50's) just walked up to me and goes "Wow, I've learned more about the 401k system from you in the past week then I ever knew before".  How did this come about you may ask, we are switching our 401k from a super expensive mutual fund company to Vanguard and I asked him if we could 1.  chose our new Vangaurd funds prior to the black out period for transfer and 2.  Would this effect my front loading in any way that I needed to know about....he didn't realize you could contribute 100% of your paycheck to your 401k.

My husbands new COL just called him into the office for counseling (standard in the military).  Due to the nature of his job in the military there is a BIG push to make sure that people in the unit are financially stable both for peace of mind, and to lesser the chance for corruption/bribes etc, financial talk is part of every briefing and counseling pretty much. 

COL "So, is everything OK financially"
DH:  "Yes sir"
COL:  "You know, having savings is an important part of unit and family stability, what are your savings plan for the future"
DH:  "well sir, right now we are front loading my wifes 401k to max it out for the year over the next couple of months, then we will do the same with my TSP (he's heading to a 10month schooling here in a bit so no chance of a deployment again this year)"
COL:  "That's impressive that you can save $5000 dollars in such a short period of time!"
DH:  "Uh, sir, I think you are thinking of the IRA limits of 5500, 401k is 18k this year" (and yes, I think he should have just kept his mouth shut)
COL: *Blink, Blink* "Oh...well what are your other long term goals"
DH:  "Well, we are on plan to hit 7 figures in the next couple of years, after that I will finish out my 20 and then we plan on retiring."
COL:  " So it sounds like you are setting yourself up for an easy transition into your next job, that's great!  Wait...Did you say SEVEN figures?!?!"
DH:  "Yes sir"
COL:  *Blink Blink*  "Uh, ok so I guess I don't have to do these financial discussions with you in the future, you want to write me up a questionnaire of things I SHOULD be asking your coworkers?"
DH:  "Uh, I guess I can put something together"

Yea, pretty sure he just stepped into a pile of something he wants no part of.

You're probably under investigation now.  It's "impossible" to have that much saved up, so expect them to go trawling through all your finances for the last decade trying to figure out when you accepted bribes from North Korea or embezzled from someplace or another.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6834 on: February 14, 2015, 11:09:53 AM »

That's only working time, thought -- they also have to drive from house to house.  But still, it's not a bad living.

Don't even ask what it costs to clean your shit-filled pants

I really, really doubt the actual maids get paid much, if any, more than minimum wage.

http://www.indeed.com/cmp/Molly-Maid/salaries?from=reviews

They certainly don't make $95 between the two of them (i.e. $47.50 each). But I don't think they make minimum wage either, at least not in Canada. Molly Maid is a franchise arrangement. You purchase a franchise for an upfront fee, then pay a monthly franchise fee besides. Many who do this would work themselves as a maid, and maybe hire one or two people to help. Or, the franchise could be co-owned between several family members or friends or whatever, and the owners do all the work. I think some of the franchise owners make quite a bit of money, if they're willing to hustle and land some good contracts and do much of the work themselves.

I suspect in the US, especially the southern states, the wages for this kind of work would be a lot lower, given the massive numbers of illegals who are competing for maid work. So it is probably a lot more common to buy a franchise and let employees do all the work. 

As an aside, an old roommate of mine about 20 years ago briefly toyed with the idea of buying a franchise. I thought it was funny, because the lazy bastard never did any cleaning around our apartment. :)


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6835 on: February 14, 2015, 01:14:10 PM »
Co-worker I have mentioned in posts before had a new gem yesterday. Guy went from flipping burgers getting minimum wage to making ~$45,000 (no rent, lives with his grandmother) and has 2 credit cards maxed out. He tried to buy a motorcycle the other weekend but he was denied due to his credit score which he said was around 560.

Anyways I get a call in the office from Kay Jewelers, asking for employment verification for said individual. He wanted.... no, his girlfriend wanted him to buy an engagement ring for her. He didn't have the money, his cards were maxed out, so he took out and was approved for a loan from the store for $4,000 at 24% interest.

He is making more money than he ever has in his life, he is not paying rent, and his net worth just keeps going further in the red. Also he cheated on the girlfriend he got the ring for a few months ago... needless to say I am pretty sure this is headed for disaster.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6836 on: February 14, 2015, 02:14:17 PM »
Co-worker I have mentioned in posts before had a new gem yesterday. Guy went from flipping burgers getting minimum wage to making ~$45,000 (no rent, lives with his grandmother) and has 2 credit cards maxed out. He tried to buy a motorcycle the other weekend but he was denied due to his credit score which he said was around 560.

Anyways I get a call in the office from Kay Jewelers, asking for employment verification for said individual. He wanted.... no, his girlfriend wanted him to buy an engagement ring for her. He didn't have the money, his cards were maxed out, so he took out and was approved for a loan from the store for $4,000 at 24% interest.

He is making more money than he ever has in his life, he is not paying rent, and his net worth just keeps going further in the red. Also he cheated on the girlfriend he got the ring for a few months ago... needless to say I am pretty sure this is headed for disaster.

Get the popcorn ready!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6837 on: February 14, 2015, 06:32:22 PM »
Co-worker I have mentioned in posts before had a new gem yesterday. Guy went from flipping burgers getting minimum wage to making ~$45,000 (no rent, lives with his grandmother) and has 2 credit cards maxed out. He tried to buy a motorcycle the other weekend but he was denied due to his credit score which he said was around 560.

Anyways I get a call in the office from Kay Jewelers, asking for employment verification for said individual. He wanted.... no, his girlfriend wanted him to buy an engagement ring for her. He didn't have the money, his cards were maxed out, so he took out and was approved for a loan from the store for $4,000 at 24% interest.

He is making more money than he ever has in his life, he is not paying rent, and his net worth just keeps going further in the red. Also he cheated on the girlfriend he got the ring for a few months ago... needless to say I am pretty sure this is headed for disaster.

Get the popcorn ready!

I woud be soooo tempted to say "I've never heard of that person" just to stop the bleeding a bit.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6838 on: February 14, 2015, 09:01:10 PM »
Also he cheated on the girlfriend he got the ring for a few months ago... needless to say I am pretty sure this is headed for disaster.

Thus the need for a $4000 ring. Otherwise, she might have been perfectly happy with...... a $3800 ring. Cheating cost him $200. Sucka!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6839 on: February 14, 2015, 10:33:13 PM »
A co-worker that I have mentioned in this thread before got back from an overseas holiday last week. We got paid on friday and she asked if she could have an early lunch once the money was in her account so that she could pay her bills asap. She came back from lunch and announced that her whole monthly pay was gone.

I then caught her shopping online at her desk for clothing...

This is the same co-worker that doesn't pay rent because her mother pays it for her. Same co-worker who with a straight face asked me "how do you avoid speeding?" when I asked how much she spends every year on speeding and traffic infringement fines. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6840 on: February 15, 2015, 02:46:15 AM »
A co-worker that I have mentioned in this thread before got back from an overseas holiday last week. We got paid on friday and she asked if she could have an early lunch once the money was in her account so that she could pay her bills asap. She came back from lunch and announced that her whole monthly pay was gone.

I then caught her shopping online at her desk for clothing...

This is the same co-worker that doesn't pay rent because her mother pays it for her. Same co-worker who with a straight face asked me "how do you avoid speeding?" when I asked how much she spends every year on speeding and traffic infringement fines.
Did you answer "get a bike and sell your car"?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6841 on: February 15, 2015, 07:48:25 AM »
Coworker, who spent the last 9 months mopping about how poor she is and how she has to cut her mat leave in half due to her poverty (she earns the same as me... Almost 6 figures).  Her husband has a decent job too.
While she was visiting with the new baby,
 Me "oh what a nice hat and scarf you have, did you make that?"
Her " yes I hand crocheted it myself last week"
Me "wow, you just had the baby a month ago, how do you find time to crochet with 3 kids under 4, one of which is a newborn"
Her "oh I send them all to daycare still, it's just such important socialization."
Me: internal facepalm "so your still coming back in a few months?"
Her "oh yes, I have cut all the expenses I can think of, we just don't have enough money"

Lady, you are paying someone else your entire mat leave benefit to take care of your kids for you all day while you sit at home and relax, what do you think mat leave is for?  It's not a year long paid vacation you know!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6842 on: February 15, 2015, 10:03:41 AM »
Coworker, who spent the last 9 months mopping about how poor she is and how she has to cut her mat leave in half due to her poverty (she earns the same as me... Almost 6 figures).  Her husband has a decent job too.
While she was visiting with the new baby,
 Me "oh what a nice hat and scarf you have, did you make that?"
Her " yes I hand crocheted it myself last week"
Me "wow, you just had the baby a month ago, how do you find time to crochet with 3 kids under 4, one of which is a newborn"
Her "oh I send them all to daycare still, it's just such important socialization."
Me: internal facepalm "so your still coming back in a few months?"
Her "oh yes, I have cut all the expenses I can think of, we just don't have enough money"

Lady, you are paying someone else your entire mat leave benefit to take care of your kids for you all day while you sit at home and relax, what do you think mat leave is for?  It's not a year long paid vacation you know!

She probably has the baby at home with her....I hope?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6843 on: February 15, 2015, 10:39:48 AM »
I started working again pretty recently (just graduated), and finally have something to contribute.

I work at a tech company, and one of the interns was talking about how her personal laptop's screen had broken and would cost $50 to fix. One of the full time devs and another guy (not sure if he was a full-time intern or salaried or what) were telling her she should buy a new one instead of fixing it. Something gave me the impression they were sorta giving her a hard time about it - like they thought she was being really silly for wanting to fix it or something. Even after she explained how the laptop is only a couple years old and otherwise still works fine, and doesn't have "mommy and daddy" paying her expenses. Full time guy says his parents aren't paying for him either.

At that point I'm just *internal facepalm*. The point that not everyone has money to drop on unnecessary upgrades went right over his head. Guess I just get frustrated with that "I'm making a good living, therefore everyone else is too" attitude. (As I understand it, intern coworker is doing alright for herself, but doesn't have much room to not be frugal. Still seemed rude of other coworker to be pressuring her to upgrade.)

It's also been kinda interesting seeing how frugality at this office differs from the company's other location. My office is in a lower COL city, while the larger office is in an exurb of NYC. People at the other office eat lunch out almost every day (but will eat the company's Friday free lunch in), and their lunch room doesn't even have recycling bins, at least that I could find. In my office people mostly eat in - but that's partly because there aren't a bunch of restaurants right across the street, and it's so cold outside that no one wants to be out there. And we have recycling bins, and some shared utensils and a mini dish washer. Peoples' attitudes seem a little less wasteful in general. Between that and most of our managers working at the other office (so people aren't as discreet about complaining, swear more, and there's no reason to pretend to be busy), this place feels a bit like a frontier town in comparison to the "empire" at headquarters.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6844 on: February 15, 2015, 10:41:13 AM »
Coworker, who spent the last 9 months mopping about how poor she is and how she has to cut her mat leave in half due to her poverty (she earns the same as me... Almost 6 figures).  Her husband has a decent job too.
While she was visiting with the new baby,
 Me "oh what a nice hat and scarf you have, did you make that?"
Her " yes I hand crocheted it myself last week"
Me "wow, you just had the baby a month ago, how do you find time to crochet with 3 kids under 4, one of which is a newborn"
Her "oh I send them all to daycare still, it's just such important socialization."
Me: internal facepalm "so your still coming back in a few months?"
Her "oh yes, I have cut all the expenses I can think of, we just don't have enough money"

Lady, you are paying someone else your entire mat leave benefit to take care of your kids for you all day while you sit at home and relax, what do you think mat leave is for?  It's not a year long paid vacation you know!
Okay, Canada.  For the US, I would understand paying for child care while on mat leave, because it's 3 months long.  And here (dunno about Canada), you pay for a spot. So if you gave up child care on mat leave, you'd lose it and have to find new.

I was lucky that my 2nd child was born in the summer.  My big boy was in camp for the first month because I was still working. I had him home the next two months when the baby was born, and only sent him to camp for 2 weeks.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6845 on: February 16, 2015, 07:14:43 AM »
Co-worker I have mentioned in posts before had a new gem yesterday. Guy went from flipping burgers getting minimum wage to making ~$45,000 (no rent, lives with his grandmother) and has 2 credit cards maxed out. He tried to buy a motorcycle the other weekend but he was denied due to his credit score which he said was around 560.

Anyways I get a call in the office from Kay Jewelers, asking for employment verification for said individual. He wanted.... no, his girlfriend wanted him to buy an engagement ring for her. He didn't have the money, his cards were maxed out, so he took out and was approved for a loan from the store for $4,000 at 24% interest.

He is making more money than he ever has in his life, he is not paying rent, and his net worth just keeps going further in the red. Also he cheated on the girlfriend he got the ring for a few months ago... needless to say I am pretty sure this is headed for disaster.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6846 on: February 18, 2015, 08:14:38 PM »
This is old, but I still get a kick out of it.

My first summer internship when I was 19, I was getting paid something like $13 an hour. Not mega bucks but excellent experience, and it was in the city my parents lived in so my expenses were zero.

Another intern started at the same time I did. The first Monday after we got our first paychecks, I walked in to the bathroom and saw him washing his hands. He was all excited because with his first paycheck he had gone and bought a TV.

I walked into the stall, and he repeated a few times that it "felt good to blow the money. felt good." I didn't respond, because (1) who talks to you while you're pooping? (2) what do you say to that?

Drop a loud one.  Follow it up with "Felt good to blow THAT.  felt good."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6847 on: February 18, 2015, 08:42:59 PM »
This is old, but I still get a kick out of it.

My first summer internship when I was 19, I was getting paid something like $13 an hour. Not mega bucks but excellent experience, and it was in the city my parents lived in so my expenses were zero.

Another intern started at the same time I did. The first Monday after we got our first paychecks, I walked in to the bathroom and saw him washing his hands. He was all excited because with his first paycheck he had gone and bought a TV.

I walked into the stall, and he repeated a few times that it "felt good to blow the money. felt good." I didn't respond, because (1) who talks to you while you're pooping? (2) what do you say to that?

Drop a loud one.  Follow it up with "Felt good to blow THAT.  felt good."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6848 on: February 19, 2015, 05:34:32 AM »
So my boss is a huge Manchester united fan. We work in New York. He flies out  to London 3-4 times a year and takes the train up to Manchester to watch a game. By his admission its $1500 to fly there and back, then you add on the cost of the hotels and the game. He only stays the weekend. He spends probably $7500 a year doing this. Antimustachian but still awesome.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6849 on: February 19, 2015, 05:43:48 AM »
So my boss is a huge Manchester united fan. We work in New York. He flies out  to London 3-4 times a year and takes the train up to Manchester to watch a game. By his admission its $1500 to fly there and back, then you add on the cost of the hotels and the game. He only stays the weekend. He spends probably $7500 a year doing this. Antimustachian but still awesome.

Awesome? not if he's a manc.


Although it has to be said that I have done something similar in the past when airfares were cheaper and I'd stay with friends or family.