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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3100 on: July 01, 2014, 12:22:47 PM »
I was recently told by my boss that I would need at least $6 million to retire. He went on to say that "$250,000 a year would be a comfortable income." I just nodded.

They are all going to be surprised as hell when I pull the plug within a year. Suckas!

That will be an epic "FU" story you need to share. Can you record that convo with your boss? :-D

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« Reply #3101 on: July 01, 2014, 04:23:30 PM »
I was recently told by my boss that I would need at least $6 million to retire. He went on to say that "$250,000 a year would be a comfortable income." I just nodded.

They are all going to be surprised as hell when I pull the plug within a year. Suckas!

That will be an epic "FU" story you need to share. Can you record that convo with your boss? :-D
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3102 on: July 01, 2014, 05:24:45 PM »
I was recently told by my boss that I would need at least $6 million to retire. He went on to say that "$250,000 a year would be a comfortable income." I just nodded.

They are all going to be surprised as hell when I pull the plug within a year. Suckas!

That will be an epic "FU" story you need to share. Can you record that convo with your boss? :-D
Seconded you can borrow my gopro!

Consider it done.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3103 on: July 01, 2014, 05:58:59 PM »
One of the factory workers at my job bought a used M5...model year 2007-2011 probably.

Union factory workers start at $9/hr and get $0.35/hr/yr raises.

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« Reply #3104 on: July 01, 2014, 06:01:53 PM »
One of the factory workers at my job bought a used M5...model year 2007-2011 probably.

Union factory workers start at $9/hr and get $0.35/hr/yr raises.

Obviously he has been living frugally and saving his $9/hr for a very long time to pay cash when he came across a really great deal for the car on CL.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3105 on: July 01, 2014, 09:40:48 PM »
If you can't afford a new BMW, you can't afford an old BMW.

And definitely not an M5...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3106 on: July 02, 2014, 12:55:00 AM »
One of the factory workers at my job bought a used M5...model year 2007-2011 probably.

Union factory workers start at $9/hr and get $0.35/hr/yr raises.
This reminds me of waiting tables in LA the summer of '94. I was 18 and burned out on classes at local 4 year uni.  So I dialed it down for the summer: I waited tables PT and took Macro Econ for biz minor credit at a cheap community college.   During this time I observed the following:

"M", a 28 yr old full time waiter bought a new grass green Mazda Miata speedster fo $24k.
"J", a 35 yr old waiter took us all to drinks at nearby expensive bar after work one day to celebrate having just finished paying off his college student loan- from 15 years before.

By the time the fall semester rolled around I had a newfound enthusiasm for my engineering coursework.

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« Reply #3107 on: July 02, 2014, 03:46:47 AM »
He has 4 daughters, all of which are in acting school.

For the love of god, please tell me there is a fifth, youngest, "Cinderella" daughter who is planning to become an engineer or an accountant.

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« Reply #3108 on: July 02, 2014, 04:45:45 AM »
He has 4 daughters, all of which are in acting school.

For the love of god, please tell me there is a fifth, youngest, "Cinderella" daughter who is planning to become an engineer or an accountant.

Crazy part is there are probably ok odds that one of them will at least half make it confirming that this was a good career path in each daughters eyes, "see Becky made it!".  I am sure 'making it' in Hollywood is like way totally hard but with daddy subsidizing life they can afford to stand at the plate swinging at pitches as long as they like.

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« Reply #3109 on: July 02, 2014, 05:43:51 AM »
He has 4 daughters, all of which are in acting school.

For the love of god, please tell me there is a fifth, youngest, "Cinderella" daughter who is planning to become an engineer or an accountant.

Crazy part is there are probably ok odds that one of them will at least half make it confirming that this was a good career path in each daughters eyes, "see Becky made it!".  I am sure 'making it' in Hollywood is like way totally hard but with daddy subsidizing life they can afford to stand at the plate swinging at pitches as long as they like.

Well, as much as I think it's madness to shell out big bucks for that sort of thing, I have actually witnessed someone who made a go of it, kinda.

I dated a boy in high school who went on to study Drama at University.  He compounded his poor choice by selecting a bad University which was more generally known for it's agricultural program.  Oh, and he was a really bad actor.  I mean over the top bad.

Thirty years later he's a highish mid-level television producer.  So, with a bit of hard work and a bite of a reality sandwich, you can actually parlay an acting degree into something that pays the bills.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3110 on: July 02, 2014, 06:32:14 AM »
He compounded his poor choice by selecting a bad University which was more generally known for it's agricultural program.

Guelph's not that bad a University . . .

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3111 on: July 02, 2014, 06:53:36 AM »
If you can't afford a new BMW, you can't afford an old BMW.

And definitely not an M5...

Funny part was I made a comment to the owner that I needed a raise because obviously the factory guys are ballin' where as I am most certainly not.  He responded he needed a raise too then.

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« Reply #3112 on: July 02, 2014, 01:34:32 PM »
Acting is not necessarily a bad career choice if you are good at it. Chances of becoming rich are not high but there are other places of employment besides big budget movies (theatre, TV, advertisements etc). Neither is classical music, by the way. I have several friends who are living a very good life with it. Not particularly rich, but more than enough with very flexible work schedules.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3113 on: July 02, 2014, 01:41:42 PM »
I've got a ridiculously well paid internship (insurance).  Early on, I was in a group of people and rent came up - particularly, the fact that the internship used to provide housing until the year of one current employee's internship.  She bemoaned this fact and complained that she spent nearly all of her paycheck on rent.  (Mind you, she gestured to a building about a block away and said it was really convenient.  Probably a tiny but well maintained studio, and even scaling back her exageration to a "reasonable" amount she was probably paying $2000/month.)  I can only imagine she spent the rest of her money on expensive lunches given her current habits around the office (and such wastefulness!  She doesn't even keep the leftovers from the restaurants!  I find it absolutely ridiculous.)

Meanwhile I've got a room with some friends a bit further out for under $450 and will sock away at least 1/2 what I make this summer.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3114 on: July 02, 2014, 06:43:44 PM »
He compounded his poor choice by selecting a bad University which was more generally known for it's agricultural program.

Guelph's not that bad a University . . .

I phrased it incorrectly.  I meant bad for his choice of study, not overall.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3115 on: July 02, 2014, 09:02:36 PM »
The "financial adviser," who looked to be in his 50s, answered "oh you should just pretty much put everything you can in the house fund, after all you're young, you have plenty of time to save fo
Thank God he added "Look at me, I'm a financial planner, and I just started saving for retirement now that my kids are done with college! My son is always making fun of me for it!" That pretty much convinced me not to listen to anything he had to say...

Sweet Jesus. How are we supposed to function as a society when people who are qualified to give financial advice dispense absolute shit like the above quote. I mean really. Fuck. Really?

I've noticed a recent trend around here suggesting that CPAs have no financial planning savvy.  It's probably just all the bad examples, but they're certainly living up to their "bean counter" reputation in these parts.

To be fair, you don't have to be a CPA to be a financial advisor. Actually, you need to pass only basic exams and be a motivated seller of mutual funds, or whatever else, to be a financial advisor. Most CPA's deal more with corporate finance, auditing, or taxes. That being said, I know a lot of very financially responsible and irresponsible CPAs. I would say on average for the profession, they tend to be more conservative.  The older CPA's that I know tend to have the 1 more year or just a little more syndrome, even though their houses and cars are paid for, and they have a very large savings for retirement.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3116 on: July 02, 2014, 09:19:59 PM »
The older CPA's that I know tend to have the 1 more year or just a little more syndrome, even though their houses and cars are paid for, and they have a very large savings for retirement.

Not this one.  I bailed the minute I could.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3117 on: July 02, 2014, 09:38:50 PM »
The older CPA's that I know tend to have the 1 more year or just a little more syndrome, even though their houses and cars are paid for, and they have a very large savings for retirement.

Not this one.  I bailed the minute I could.

That's my plan too!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3118 on: July 03, 2014, 12:01:25 AM »
Hanging out on page 32?
I've noticed a recent trend around here suggesting that CPAs have no financial planning savvy.  It's probably just all the bad examples, but they're certainly living up to their "bean counter" reputation in these parts.
To be fair, you don't have to be a CPA to be a financial advisor. Actually, you need to pass only basic exams and be a motivated seller of mutual funds, or whatever else, to be a financial advisor. Most CPA's deal more with corporate finance, auditing, or taxes. That being said, I know a lot of very financially responsible and irresponsible CPAs. I would say on average for the profession, they tend to be more conservative.  The older CPA's that I know tend to have the 1 more year or just a little more syndrome, even though their houses and cars are paid for, and they have a very large savings for retirement.

I've noticed a recent trend around here suggesting that CPAs have no financial planning savvy
Yeah, and physicists make terrible doctors. Musicians can't write poetry for shit, either.

The older CPA's that I know tend to have the 1 more year or just a little more syndrome, even though their houses and cars are paid for, and they have a very large savings for retirement.
Not this one.  I bailed the minute I could.
That's my plan too!
From public accounting or from working at all?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3119 on: July 03, 2014, 07:42:58 AM »
I am sure 'making it' in Hollywood is like way totally hard but with daddy subsidizing life they can afford to stand at the plate swinging at pitches as long as they like.

hahaha!  Love this analogy!  Good companion to the one about "being born on third base and thinking he hit a triple."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3120 on: July 03, 2014, 09:07:50 AM »
The older CPA's that I know tend to have the 1 more year or just a little more syndrome, even though their houses and cars are paid for, and they have a very large savings for retirement.

Not this one.  I bailed the minute I could.

That's my plan too!

Well I'm with you fellers! CPA, Partner, and hoping to leave it all behind at around 45 when the stache is full.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3121 on: July 03, 2014, 10:20:58 AM »
My office is 1.5 blocks away from a Starbucks, and every once in a while the boss will buy fancypants coffee drinks for the staff (there are 4 of us) as a celebration for some little company victory.  We take turns making the run and bringing back the four drinks. 

When it's my turn to fetch the drinks, I walk (of course).  On their turns, every one of my coworkers drives that 1.5 blocks. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3122 on: July 03, 2014, 05:55:35 PM »
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okay, I had to google this Dishes place... is this it?

http://www.dishestogo.com/admin/imageuploads/Files/TodaySpecial.pdf

because if so, I... don't get it. who the fuck wants a "hot" entree served at room temperature? especially moroccan stewed salmon?!? it's not like you can heat that shit up at work! plus also there's a typo in "pluots." judging so hard right now. LOL

Actually, I did like the food there, but I'll tell you why I stopped.  Much of the food is presented steam-table or salad bar style, and it's sold by weight. So they had this nice spanikopita (greek spinach & phyllo dough) which they had cut up. But the piece was too much, so before putting in my container, I grabbed the serving utensil and I chopped the piece in half on the steam table, and the employee said "No, we don't allow that. Don't ever do that again"  SO I PUT DOWN MY ENTIRE ORDER AND WALKED OUT, and my only regret is that I didn't have more in the order so that they lost more money on food that they now could not resell.

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« Reply #3123 on: July 03, 2014, 07:51:32 PM »
A work colleague is unwell (cancer, so a long slow period of chemo), and standard practice in our unit is for staff to donate time which work convert to dollars so she doesn't have to worry about taking time off. The sign-up sheet to donate came around last week. Now we have about 300 staff and usually about half of them donate to causes like this. Most of us give at least a day, because, well, what goes around and all that. You just never know what's round the corner.

A person I was working with the other night when we were signing up was in tears, because she wanted to donate but if she put down more than an hour (which she thought was not enough) of time she wouldn't be able to pay all her bills next payday. I'm talking about someone who is making about $85K a year with penalties, and is in her mid-60s. So reasonably close to retirement. An hours pay takes about $30 out of our wage.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3124 on: July 04, 2014, 08:05:44 AM »
My office is 1.5 blocks away from a Starbucks, and every once in a while the boss will buy fancypants coffee drinks for the staff (there are 4 of us) as a celebration for some little company victory.  We take turns making the run and bringing back the four drinks. 

When it's my turn to fetch the drinks, I walk (of course).  On their turns, every one of my coworkers drives that 1.5 blocks.
Ha!  That's bad.

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« Reply #3125 on: July 04, 2014, 03:33:40 PM »
My office is 1.5 blocks away from a Starbucks, and every once in a while the boss will buy fancypants coffee drinks for the staff (there are 4 of us) as a celebration for some little company victory.  We take turns making the run and bringing back the four drinks. 

When it's my turn to fetch the drinks, I walk (of course).  On their turns, every one of my coworkers drives that 1.5 blocks.

Is the coffee still hot when you bring it to them?

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« Reply #3126 on: July 04, 2014, 03:57:01 PM »
My office is 1.5 blocks away from a Starbucks, and every once in a while the boss will buy fancypants coffee drinks for the staff (there are 4 of us) as a celebration for some little company victory.  We take turns making the run and bringing back the four drinks. 

When it's my turn to fetch the drinks, I walk (of course).  On their turns, every one of my coworkers drives that 1.5 blocks.

Is the coffee still hot when you bring it to them?

Still too hot to drink, in the summer.  In the winter it cools off more so I ask the barista to make it extra hot and it balances out just fine.  I've never noticed mine being cold or heard anyone else mention it, at least.

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« Reply #3127 on: July 04, 2014, 08:09:35 PM »
My office is 1.5 blocks away from a Starbucks, and every once in a while the boss will buy fancypants coffee drinks for the staff (there are 4 of us) as a celebration for some little company victory.  We take turns making the run and bringing back the four drinks. 

When it's my turn to fetch the drinks, I walk (of course).  On their turns, every one of my coworkers drives that 1.5 blocks.

Is the coffee still hot when you bring it to them?

Factor in that the driving employees have to get in, buckle up, and all that.  Then when they get to the office, park the car, and reverse all that.  Walking is likely faster.

We were about 6 blocks from the courthouse where we worked often and most people drove.  I walked and was there before them since they had to search for parking.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3128 on: July 04, 2014, 08:33:42 PM »
My office is 1.5 blocks away from a Starbucks, and every once in a while the boss will buy fancypants coffee drinks for the staff (there are 4 of us) as a celebration for some little company victory.  We take turns making the run and bringing back the four drinks. 

When it's my turn to fetch the drinks, I walk (of course).  On their turns, every one of my coworkers drives that 1.5 blocks.

Is the coffee still hot when you bring it to them?

Factor in that the driving employees have to get in, buckle up, and all that.  Then when they get to the office, park the car, and reverse all that.  Walking is likely faster.

We were about 6 blocks from the courthouse where we worked often and most people drove.  I walked and was there before them since they had to search for parking.

All that?

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« Reply #3129 on: July 04, 2014, 10:32:54 PM »
A coworker surprised me a while back. We were going to a lunch meeting about a mile away. If it was on my own time I would walk, but I figured my department would view that as a bad use of time and I was new, so I asked if I should check out a car. He said something like, "I appreciate you thinking like an engineer [we are engineers], but it's not that far away. Let's walk." Cool dude.
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« Reply #3130 on: July 05, 2014, 05:17:22 AM »
While discussing healthy diet and getting out of debt, someone told me that he spends $1000 a month on food and detailed all the restaurants he visited in the last month. When cooking at home he likes to fry beef and cheese in bacon grease and put it on bread with bacon. He also gave "ribs and pork chops" as an example of a healthy meal he would eat at home.

I think for $1000 a month you could have a pretty good drug habit going.

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« Reply #3131 on: July 05, 2014, 07:40:52 AM »
While discussing healthy diet and getting out of debt, someone told me that he spends $1000 a month on food and detailed all the restaurants he visited in the last month. When cooking at home he likes to fry beef and cheese in bacon grease and put it on bread with bacon. He also gave "ribs and pork chops" as an example of a healthy meal he would eat at home.

I think for $1000 a month you could have a pretty good drug habit going.
Sounds Like he does have an addiction to crappy food. Is he the size of a refrigerator or small car??! I don't know how people can eat out all the time and not feel like crap.  I know when we are on vacation and eat out a few days in a row my digestive tract is screwed up for atleast a week afterwards.

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« Reply #3132 on: July 05, 2014, 08:47:11 AM »
Sounds Like he does have an addiction to crappy food. Is he the size of a refrigerator or small car??! I don't know how people can eat out all the time and not feel like crap.  I know when we are on vacation and eat out a few days in a row my digestive tract is screwed up for atleast a week afterwards.

Depends what you eatů I travel a lot so also end up eating outside fairly often. It does get old after some time, but not because of food. It's more about time and constant socialising. The latter is particularly tiring if you are on a business trip.

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« Reply #3133 on: July 05, 2014, 09:24:09 AM »
Maybe thats my problem, we eat pretty healthy at the house. We dont go out much so treat every restaurant Visit as a special treat/cheat meal. I'll admit I normally don't order off the low calorie menu lol. I also don't really go on business trips but the few I have been on I could definitely see your second point. Socializing every meal with people you might just tolerate and have a working relationship with.

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« Reply #3134 on: July 05, 2014, 09:31:41 AM »
I know this topic has been mentioned before, but I am still amazed at all my coworkers who buy Starbucks coffees, breakfast, and lunch at work every day. We have a machine the department pays for that makes all kinds of coffee, tea, cappucinos, lattes, and hot cocoa. We have a break room with 2 full sized refrigerators with freezers, a microwave, toaster oven, regular toaster, full size kitchen sink and dishwasher. My napkin calculation is they spend about 8-10% of their gross paycheck on mediocre food and coffee to enjoy at their cubicles and receptionist desks.
Several of my coworkers pay for a gym membership even though we have a spa-like on site gym that never closes. It is free to all employees and their spouses.
And, my favorite antimustachian coworker, who didn't sign up for the company-subsidized remote parking lot with shuttle bus service to the building door because "I would NEVER ride that shuttle (shudders)". Instead, this coworker parks in our building's overpriced parking garage for $10/day out of pocket, and pays $20 or more to park twice if she has an off-site meeting (that she could take the shuttle bus to). I think it costs about $60/month out of pocket to use the remote parking lot, but not sure since I use the completely free to me, company-paid bus pass.

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« Reply #3135 on: July 05, 2014, 11:28:45 AM »
I know this topic has been mentioned before, but I am still amazed at all my coworkers who buy Starbucks coffees, breakfast, and lunch at work every day. We have a machine the department pays for that makes all kinds of coffee, tea, cappucinos, lattes, and hot cocoa. We have a break room with 2 full sized refrigerators with freezers, a microwave, toaster oven, regular toaster, full size kitchen sink and dishwasher. My napkin calculation is they spend about 8-10% of their gross paycheck on mediocre food and coffee to enjoy at their cubicles and receptionist desks.
Several of my coworkers pay for a gym membership even though we have a spa-like on site gym that never closes. It is free to all employees and their spouses.
And, my favorite antimustachian coworker, who didn't sign up for the company-subsidized remote parking lot with shuttle bus service to the building door because "I would NEVER ride that shuttle (shudders)". Instead, this coworker parks in our building's overpriced parking garage for $10/day out of pocket, and pays $20 or more to park twice if she has an off-site meeting (that she could take the shuttle bus to). I think it costs about $60/month out of pocket to use the remote parking lot, but not sure since I use the completely free to me, company-paid bus pass.

I have recently found out that people (probably those who lived in rura or suburban areas and got cars as teenagers?) have an unreasonable fear of public buses. I do not comprehend this. If public transit takes you where you need to go, it's fantastic!

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« Reply #3136 on: July 05, 2014, 12:06:58 PM »
Being a BigLaw associate myself, I don't understand how it is NOT obvious to try to achieve FI before you are up for partnership given the poor prospects of partnership for most associates. I believe being FI will give you more leverage when it comes to partnership. The other partners likely will not drag you through more years of being an associate/counsel if they know you will just walk if passed for partnership.

Even when I was picking firms in law school, I used a spreadsheet to model my investment, expense and debt levels for my time as an associate. Once you have laid out all the numbers (including taking into account a healthy percentage of seamlessweb meals) it is clear that going from 0 to FI in less than 9 years is not only possible, it is downright easy to achieve with average market return.

I plan to be an associate for 4 more years at the most and I expect to reach FI well before that (due to in part the above average market return). I eat $3-4 lunches and bring my own fruit/snack to work. I don't own a car and ride bus/subway/taxi or walk to work. I try not to wear a suit if I don't have to so I only own 3 and I am still on the same two pairs of dress shoes since when I was a summer intern.

I'm at a work function with a young BigLaw associate; we work in Midtown Manhattan on Park Ave.  He makes 160k or more.   Because partnership prospects are terrible, I make an off-hand comment that you just have to save as much as you can while you still have a job.  He mentions that he doesn't understand how people save money.  I'm confused (I save 60-70% of my salary) and it turns out that for Manhattan, his rent is dirt cheap.  So I get really confused.

Me: Okay. . . . .  So what do you spend it on?
Him: Man, we work on Park Avenue, everything is hella expensive.
Me: Right; I agree. So what do you spend it on?
Him: Man, I must spend $50-60 a day just on food, minimum.   Have you ever been to Dishes??[a local to-go lunch place that is hella expensive].  I mean, you get lunch and it is $26.
Me: Yeah.  Dishes is hella expensive.  But you know what isn't hella expensive?  The food cart right next to Dishes.
Him: Come on man, we make 6-figures.  I'm not eating at a freaking food cart.
Me (to myself): [If you live like you make 6-figures, and you make 6-figures, of course you are never going to save any money.  Simple, simple math.]


I can't imagine $26 on a to-go lunch.  As a former biglaw associate, I found that ironically, when you worked crazy long hours, you spent little (no time, and firm offered cafe dinner if you worked past 8) and billed lots (making you more apt to keep your job in a down ecomony).  When you weren't busy working, you had more time to spend money and were more apt to lose your job in a down economy.

I also mentioned to him later the thing about if you were there after 8pm you could order Seamlessweb on the firm.... he didn't seem to think this substantially affected his budget.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3137 on: July 05, 2014, 03:52:45 PM »
My office is 1.5 blocks away from a Starbucks, and every once in a while the boss will buy fancypants coffee drinks for the staff (there are 4 of us) as a celebration for some little company victory.  We take turns making the run and bringing back the four drinks. 

When it's my turn to fetch the drinks, I walk (of course).  On their turns, every one of my coworkers drives that 1.5 blocks.

Is the coffee still hot when you bring it to them?

A lot of my colleagues get their take-away coffees in travel cups - keeps them hot for much longer.  Plus environmentally sustainable too I suppose. 

I succumbed to the take-away cappucino/latte crowd for a short while but found that in all honesty I can make a nicer tasting coffee using the  Nescafe in the tea-room.  Plus the big kitchen has a coffee machine if you can be bothered to walk all the way across the building.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3138 on: July 05, 2014, 08:01:05 PM »
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A lot of my colleagues get their take-away coffees in travel cups - keeps them hot for much longer.  Plus environmentally sustainable too I suppose.
it's funny/sad to see the new trend of disposable coffee cups that you buy from walmart take off at my work place. It started with one guy bringing them from home and has spread to the point where I am the minority caring around my coffee mug ( think its the same thing you are calling a travel cup) that has been faithfully keeping my coffee hot for the past 10 years now. For the record Im not a fancy coffee person. I always fill up at the shop for free and if I'm caught out and about and need a warm up I get the stuff from the quick mart for $0.89 for a refill.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3139 on: July 07, 2014, 07:48:19 AM »
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A lot of my colleagues get their take-away coffees in travel cups - keeps them hot for much longer.  Plus environmentally sustainable too I suppose.
it's funny/sad to see the new trend of disposable coffee cups that you buy from walmart take off at my work place. It started with one guy bringing them from home and has spread to the point where I am the minority caring around my coffee mug ( think its the same thing you are calling a travel cup) that has been faithfully keeping my coffee hot for the past 10 years now. For the record Im not a fancy coffee person. I always fill up at the shop for free and if I'm caught out and about and need a warm up I get the stuff from the quick mart for $0.89 for a refill.

That is sad, especially with all the great travel mugs they have available, why do we need to use disposable. Those people probably even have a good ravel mug at home already

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3140 on: July 07, 2014, 08:04:40 AM »
My office is 1.5 blocks away from a Starbucks, and every once in a while the boss will buy fancypants coffee drinks for the staff (there are 4 of us) as a celebration for some little company victory.  We take turns making the run and bringing back the four drinks. 

When it's my turn to fetch the drinks, I walk (of course).  On their turns, every one of my coworkers drives that 1.5 blocks.

Is the coffee still hot when you bring it to them?

Factor in that the driving employees have to get in, buckle up, and all that.  Then when they get to the office, park the car, and reverse all that.  Walking is likely faster.

We were about 6 blocks from the courthouse where we worked often and most people drove.  I walked and was there before them since they had to search for parking.

All that?



Average size of a city block (http://www.land4ever.com/block.htm) = 311 ft = (in less retarded units) 94.8 m

Since the distance is 1.5 blocks, that works out to 142 m.

Average speed of a person walking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking) = 5 km/h

So the dude walking should be able to traverse the distance in 1.7 minutes . . .



The test data on paper coffee cup cooling (http://www.shaunzhang.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Super-Cup-Technical-Report.pdf/41164041-B44C-4019-9CA5-E319E2CE27D3-) indicates that less than five degrees of cooling will occur after five minutes exposing a coffee cup (initial temperature of 90 C and ambient temperature of 1 C) to a temperature gradient.



I think that the conclusions we are able to draw from this data point to the likelihood that the walked coffee will still be drink-ably warm upon arrival.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3141 on: July 07, 2014, 08:07:40 AM »

I'm at a work function with a young BigLaw associate; we work in Midtown Manhattan on Park Ave.  He makes 160k or more.   Because partnership prospects are terrible, I make an off-hand comment that you just have to save as much as you can while you still have a job.  He mentions that he doesn't understand how people save money.  I'm confused (I save 60-70% of my salary) and it turns out that for Manhattan, his rent is dirt cheap.  So I get really confused.

Me: Okay. . . . .  So what do you spend it on?
Him: Man, we work on Park Avenue, everything is hella expensive.
Me: Right; I agree. So what do you spend it on?
Him: Man, I must spend $50-60 a day just on food, minimum.   Have you ever been to Dishes??[a local to-go lunch place that is hella expensive].  I mean, you get lunch and it is $26.
Me: Yeah.  Dishes is hella expensive.  But you know what isn't hella expensive?  The food cart right next to Dishes.
Him: Come on man, we make 6-figures.  I'm not eating at a freaking food cart.
Me (to myself): [If you live like you make 6-figures, and you make 6-figures, of course you are never going to save any money.  Simple, simple math.]

If this is the dishes I know, I can tell you the owner is comfortably making 7 figures, off of the 6 figure chumps who should be spending like they make 5, in their 4 figure shoes, 3 figure shirts, eating 2 figure lunches. Go figure.

Also, who says hella in manhattan?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3142 on: July 07, 2014, 12:36:03 PM »
I know this topic has been mentioned before, but I am still amazed at all my coworkers who buy Starbucks coffees, breakfast, and lunch at work every day. We have a machine the department pays for that makes all kinds of coffee, tea, cappucinos, lattes, and hot cocoa. We have a break room with 2 full sized refrigerators with freezers, a microwave, toaster oven, regular toaster, full size kitchen sink and dishwasher. My napkin calculation is they spend about 8-10% of their gross paycheck on mediocre food and coffee to enjoy at their cubicles and receptionist desks.
Several of my coworkers pay for a gym membership even though we have a spa-like on site gym that never closes. It is free to all employees and their spouses.

Being an office full of engineers, a higher percentage of people than most it seems bring in their meals- though I see way too many BigBucks coffee cups being carried around since we're really close to one. What amazes me is that people bring food in to the office, put it in one of the two full-size refrigerators (or into the smaller ones people have brought in)- and then apparently completely forget that it's there. Every other month, the secretary has to send out several dire threatening emails about cleaning out the fridge and ends up throwing away nearly 2 full fridges worth of food that people have just left in there- and not just take-out containers, I'm talking tupperware containers, full packs of hot dogs/brats, all kinds of dressings and sauces. All just thrown away because they were either forgotten about or the person who brought them in ignored the emails about the fridge cleanout.

It also amazes me that despite having done it for the last 9 years I've worked here that people are still amazed that I bring in the ingredients for and cook my breakfasts (essentially an omelet) in the break room every morning.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3143 on: July 07, 2014, 03:38:01 PM »
I know this topic has been mentioned before, but I am still amazed at all my coworkers who buy Starbucks coffees, breakfast, and lunch at work every day. We have a machine the department pays for that makes all kinds of coffee, tea, cappucinos, lattes, and hot cocoa. We have a break room with 2 full sized refrigerators with freezers, a microwave, toaster oven, regular toaster, full size kitchen sink and dishwasher. My napkin calculation is they spend about 8-10% of their gross paycheck on mediocre food and coffee to enjoy at their cubicles and receptionist desks.
Several of my coworkers pay for a gym membership even though we have a spa-like on site gym that never closes. It is free to all employees and their spouses.

Being an office full of engineers, a higher percentage of people than most it seems bring in their meals- though I see way too many BigBucks coffee cups being carried around since we're really close to one. What amazes me is that people bring food in to the office, put it in one of the two full-size refrigerators (or into the smaller ones people have brought in)- and then apparently completely forget that it's there. Every other month, the secretary has to send out several dire threatening emails about cleaning out the fridge and ends up throwing away nearly 2 full fridges worth of food that people have just left in there- and not just take-out containers, I'm talking tupperware containers, full packs of hot dogs/brats, all kinds of dressings and sauces. All just thrown away because they were either forgotten about or the person who brought them in ignored the emails about the fridge cleanout.

It also amazes me that despite having done it for the last 9 years I've worked here that people are still amazed that I bring in the ingredients for and cook my breakfasts (essentially an omelet) in the break room every morning.

Do you have a full kitchen at work?  We only have a microwave.  I would also be amazed at someone cooking eggs in a microwave when they have a stove at home, which is a better method for cooking eggs (in my opinion).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3144 on: July 07, 2014, 03:47:59 PM »
Also, who says hella in manhattan?

Also, who says hella outside of 1997?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3145 on: July 07, 2014, 03:48:52 PM »

Being an office full of engineers, a higher percentage of people than most it seems bring in their meals- though I see way too many BigBucks coffee cups being carried around since we're really close to one. What amazes me is that people bring food in to the office, put it in one of the two full-size refrigerators (or into the smaller ones people have brought in)- and then apparently completely forget that it's there. Every other month, the secretary has to send out several dire threatening emails about cleaning out the fridge and ends up throwing away nearly 2 full fridges worth of food that people have just left in there- and not just take-out containers, I'm talking tupperware containers, full packs of hot dogs/brats, all kinds of dressings and sauces. All just thrown away because they were either forgotten about or the person who brought them in ignored the emails about the fridge cleanout.

It also amazes me that despite having done it for the last 9 years I've worked here that people are still amazed that I bring in the ingredients for and cook my breakfasts (essentially an omelet) in the break room every morning.

Do you have a full kitchen at work?  We only have a microwave.  I would also be amazed at someone cooking eggs in a microwave when they have a stove at home, which is a better method for cooking eggs (in my opinion).

My parents have a doohickey that you crack eggs into, then shove in the microwave. Makes perfect poached eggs, once you figure out the timing.  Though I'd rather have a plate of properly cooked scrambled eggs any day of the week.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3146 on: July 07, 2014, 03:57:03 PM »

Being an office full of engineers, a higher percentage of people than most it seems bring in their meals- though I see way too many BigBucks coffee cups being carried around since we're really close to one. What amazes me is that people bring food in to the office, put it in one of the two full-size refrigerators (or into the smaller ones people have brought in)- and then apparently completely forget that it's there. Every other month, the secretary has to send out several dire threatening emails about cleaning out the fridge and ends up throwing away nearly 2 full fridges worth of food that people have just left in there- and not just take-out containers, I'm talking tupperware containers, full packs of hot dogs/brats, all kinds of dressings and sauces. All just thrown away because they were either forgotten about or the person who brought them in ignored the emails about the fridge cleanout.

It also amazes me that despite having done it for the last 9 years I've worked here that people are still amazed that I bring in the ingredients for and cook my breakfasts (essentially an omelet) in the break room every morning.

Do you have a full kitchen at work?  We only have a microwave.  I would also be amazed at someone cooking eggs in a microwave when they have a stove at home, which is a better method for cooking eggs (in my opinion).

My parents have a doohickey that you crack eggs into, then shove in the microwave. Makes perfect poached eggs, once you figure out the timing.  Though I'd rather have a plate of properly cooked scrambled eggs any day of the week.
I do love a good poached egg, but I've never seen the microwavable 'doohickey' before. 

I'm a fan of over medium or scrambled eggs.  Neither option is microwave friendly. 

Most people bring lunch where I work, but the car situation is insane.  There have been a few people that make about $60k/year purchasing luxury automobiles new this summer (BMW/Lexus).  The senior staff that make $200-250k have a wide range of cars, but nothing new (old Mercedes, Subarus, etc.). 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3147 on: July 07, 2014, 04:01:04 PM »

Also, who says hella in manhattan?

Also, who says hella outside of 1997?

True. I believe the 1997 NYC equivalent of hella is 'mad', as in 'mad props' or 'mad stache'.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3148 on: July 08, 2014, 02:25:01 AM »
Also, who says hella in manhattan?

Also, who says hella outside of 1997?

Everyone I know in California.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #3149 on: July 08, 2014, 06:24:21 AM »
My office is 1.5 blocks away from a Starbucks, and every once in a while the boss will buy fancypants coffee drinks for the staff (there are 4 of us) as a celebration for some little company victory.  We take turns making the run and bringing back the four drinks. 

When it's my turn to fetch the drinks, I walk (of course).  On their turns, every one of my coworkers drives that 1.5 blocks.

Is the coffee still hot when you bring it to them?

Factor in that the driving employees have to get in, buckle up, and all that.  Then when they get to the office, park the car, and reverse all that.  Walking is likely faster.

We were about 6 blocks from the courthouse where we worked often and most people drove.  I walked and was there before them since they had to search for parking.

All that?



Average size of a city block (http://www.land4ever.com/block.htm) = 311 ft = (in less retarded units) 94.8 m

Since the distance is 1.5 blocks, that works out to 142 m.

Average speed of a person walking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking) = 5 km/h

So the dude walking should be able to traverse the distance in 1.7 minutes . . .



The test data on paper coffee cup cooling (http://www.shaunzhang.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Super-Cup-Technical-Report.pdf/41164041-B44C-4019-9CA5-E319E2CE27D3-) indicates that less than five degrees of cooling will occur after five minutes exposing a coffee cup (initial temperature of 90 C and ambient temperature of 1 C) to a temperature gradient.



I think that the conclusions we are able to draw from this data point to the likelihood that the walked coffee will still be drink-ably warm upon arrival.

Always good to back up with data!

Could always throw it in the microwave for 20 seconds too.