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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17150 on: March 30, 2017, 03:53:35 PM »
You can also just go to zillow.com, pick a house, and look at "Price / Tax History". Around here it only shows the most recent price paid for the house.

I used it to check a co-worker who just moved to Georgia - $775k for a 6800sq ft house. He must be working hard!

Christ that's a big house.  My sister owned a 5000sq ft house, which was a beautiful and comfortable house, but ridiculously big.  6800, I can't even imagine living in a house that big... there'd be parts of the house I'd wander in to and go 'shit, i forgot about this room'.

A lot of times the rooms just get bigger. An estate sale we went to recently was kind of like this:

-Master bedroom had a king bed, then a love seat and two sitting chairs with a coffee table.
-Family Room, kitchen, and eating area all were kind of the same room, and all opened into the sunroom/breakfast nook. All enormous
-Smallest bedroom (there were 3) was bigger than our master bedroom (we have 4)

Maintenance is expensive, too. I have another friend with a 7500 sq ft house in Ohio. He just paid $78k for a new roof.

At least he can afford it. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes $78k in a couple of days.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17151 on: March 31, 2017, 01:42:15 AM »
I had family members whose house was burglarized while they were on vacation and they lost a lot of valuable items (coins, antiques, tools). They went through a ton of stress, time, money, and hassle with the police reporting, installing a security system and cameras, and being paranoid about always locking their house. I don't envy that.

And this is smart. I've heard that burglars often visit the same house some weeks later, after the owners have replaced their stuff with new things.

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« Reply #17152 on: March 31, 2017, 06:39:45 AM »
I've spent the last year listening to an employee of mine drone on and on about the pains of building a custom home. She and her husband combined might make what my wife and I make (she's a teacher at Headstart and is waaay underpaid), yet they spent over $400k on this house. We live in a LCOL area - median homes are in the $165k range - so this is definitely more house than they need for the three of them. We paid $210k for our place, which is less than half what they spent (last I heard with overruns, attorney fees, etc. they were approaching $459k). I was barely comfortable with $210k, but we also opted for a 15 year mortgage. Makes me kinda sad really, especially since they both work for the same company and literally have all their eggs in one basket.

The other point to factor is that their finished product will be a perpetual outlier in their community. I lived in, and built new homes in an area that closely matched your demographics, in fact the average resale number was $164K recently. The problem with isolated homes that are 2X+  the average in a LCOL, low housing cost area is that they tend to be a real bad 'investment". In a healthy market, a new home should be about 30% more than an existing similar older one. So it should be possible to find a similar decades old place for the low $300k range in their case. Unfortunately, what I frequently observed was a picture that wasn't so bright.  I lived in a nice community where most places were fairly new and worth less than $200k. A neighbor spent well over twice that to build a large, lavish Cape Cod. When it was time to sell they listed it for the mid-400s. The place showed incredibly well, and was in mint condition. In another location it might of been a spectacular bargain.  It took five years of being listed, and continual price reductions, until the couple took an offer in the high $200s recently.  They took a loss of almost $200K since the home just didn't fit the market.

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« Reply #17153 on: March 31, 2017, 09:23:58 AM »
I have two different ones from today...

First one is a good one, or at least okay I guess. A 70yo coworker is retiring today. We both work for a BMW auto dealer and he has been a mechanic for 46 years. He's just kind of wandering around the shop and seems like a lost puppy. Extremely sad really. I'm not sure if he evens wants to retire.

From what he has said, he owns some properties and should be financially stabled, so not sure why the anguish. Maybe it's sentimental and I'm not seeing it but that's a whole other story, so I apologise for that.

Anyways, we were signing a farewell card in which I wrote, "Enjoy your freedom" and I saw a message from a sales lady who wrote, "Lucky you".  She's in her mid fifties and last year she told me she was in CC debt up to her eyeballs. I'm sure I wrote about that interaction here.  So to her, a 70yo with 46 years under his belt of hard labor ia lucky to finally retire. Amazing.

Same lady drove in in a Saab this morning as I was getting out of my car.

"Something wrong with the bimmer?" I asked.

"Oh no, just driving this one because I'm over my miles on the lease," she replied.

"Wait, this one is yours too?" I asked.  I was surprised because I've never seen her in the Saab.

"Yeah, I have had it for awhile," she said.

"Cool car!" I responded and started to walk away.

"This one is paid for but now I'm paying for a dead horse. I can't drive the bimmer since I'm over my miles," she said again and just shrugged her shoulders.

The Saab is a nice car. Probably 8 years old and in really good condition(I don't know my Saabs). 

Why lease another car? Why lease a car and run up the miles to the point you can't drive it, specially when you have a perfectly good running car???

I guess now I know why she considers the retiree lucky.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17154 on: March 31, 2017, 09:36:10 AM »

The Saab is a nice car. Probably 8 years old and in really good condition(I don't know my Saabs). 

Why lease another car? Why lease a car and run up the miles to the point you can't drive it, specially when you have a perfectly good running car???

I guess now I know why she considers the retiree lucky.

As a former SAAB owner, and someone who dearly misses my SAAB, I would never own a SAAB if I had to rely on it. It would only be part of an equation where I had an extra car (2 for me, or 3 for my wife and I). They make BMW's look like Toyota of the 90's in terms of reliability.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17155 on: March 31, 2017, 09:45:41 AM »
The wife went out for a happy hour with a couple of coworkers last night. One of the CW recently took a position in a high stress, marginally higher paying role and she's been trying to convince my wife to apply for an opening in her department. For context, CW just leased (rented) a BMW and bought a fancypants luxury purse.

Check comes, CW grabs it... "Here, let me pay for this, I have money now. See, if you take that job you can have money too!"

Oh yeah, thanks for taking the bill, that $50 tab for 3 people was going to sink our family into financial catastrophe!! If only we could afford to spend money too!!

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« Reply #17156 on: March 31, 2017, 10:02:17 AM »
The wife went out for a happy hour with a couple of coworkers last night. One of the CW recently took a position in a high stress, marginally higher paying role and she's been trying to convince my wife to apply for an opening in her department. For context, CW just leased (rented) a BMW and bought a fancypants luxury purse.

Check comes, CW grabs it... "Here, let me pay for this, I have money now. See, if you take that job you can have money too!"

Oh yeah, thanks for taking the bill, that $50 tab for 3 people was going to sink our family into financial catastrophe!! If only we could afford to spend money too!!
Condescending, but at least she didn't turn to your wife and ask if she could "cover" the bar tab this time because she was a little behind, what with her new lease at all . . .

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« Reply #17157 on: March 31, 2017, 10:16:24 AM »
And this is smart. I've heard that burglars often visit the same house some weeks later, after the owners have replaced their stuff with new things.

This happened to some friends a few years ago. Think you lose peace of mind when you got robbed? How about twice? They lost some nice things.

My roomies and I were robbed years ago. I had nothing so I lost a walkman radio and not much else. Roomie #1 was a shopper and lost $2K worth of electronics and music. Remember when stereos and basic TVs were expensive?

He didn't care. Just an excuse to go shopping again.

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« Reply #17158 on: March 31, 2017, 10:56:46 AM »
The wife went out for a happy hour with a couple of coworkers last night. One of the CW recently took a position in a high stress, marginally higher paying role and she's been trying to convince my wife to apply for an opening in her department. For context, CW just leased (rented) a BMW and bought a fancypants luxury purse.

Check comes, CW grabs it... "Here, let me pay for this, I have money now. See, if you take that job you can have money too!"

Oh yeah, thanks for taking the bill, that $50 tab for 3 people was going to sink our family into financial catastrophe!! If only we could afford to spend money too!!
Condescending, but at least she didn't turn to your wife and ask if she could "cover" the bar tab this time because she was a little behind, what with her new lease at all . . .

Having not been a professional for very long, did it used to be a thing where people insisted on picking up the check? I ask because it seems almost second-nature for waitresses to ask "separate checks," and for us to nod our head. I prefer it this way as I pay for what I've ordered and I won't be paying for my friend's top shelf vodka.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17159 on: March 31, 2017, 11:05:12 AM »
The wife went out for a happy hour with a couple of coworkers last night. One of the CW recently took a position in a high stress, marginally higher paying role and she's been trying to convince my wife to apply for an opening in her department. For context, CW just leased (rented) a BMW and bought a fancypants luxury purse.

Check comes, CW grabs it... "Here, let me pay for this, I have money now. See, if you take that job you can have money too!"

Oh yeah, thanks for taking the bill, that $50 tab for 3 people was going to sink our family into financial catastrophe!! If only we could afford to spend money too!!
Condescending, but at least she didn't turn to your wife and ask if she could "cover" the bar tab this time because she was a little behind, what with her new lease at all . . .

Having not been a professional for very long, did it used to be a thing where people insisted on picking up the check? I ask because it seems almost second-nature for waitresses to ask "separate checks," and for us to nod our head. I prefer it this way as I pay for what I've ordered and I won't be paying for my friend's top shelf vodka.
There's a couple ex coworkers that I'll usually (try to) buy lunch for when it's 1 on 1.  We don't go out for drinks, and it's usually just water and a meal.  But about half the time they buy lunch for me, so it works out. 

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« Reply #17160 on: March 31, 2017, 03:42:50 PM »
The topic of saving came up at work.

One girl (early 20s) said she couldn't save more than $50/week.

Earlier in the week she had been raving about her favourite shampoo, which happens to cost $18 for 385ml (and the same for conditioner).

I'm sure the spending and lack of saving are completely unrelated...

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« Reply #17161 on: March 31, 2017, 05:22:32 PM »
The topic of saving came up at work.

One girl (early 20s) said she couldn't save more than $50/week.

Earlier in the week she had been raving about her favourite shampoo, which happens to cost $18 for 385ml (and the same for conditioner).

I'm sure the spending and lack of saving are completely unrelated...

I mean, I spend a facepunch-worthy $65 for a liter of shampoo, but it lasts me over a year, and I'm saving way more than 50 buck a week...

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« Reply #17162 on: March 31, 2017, 10:40:15 PM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

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« Reply #17163 on: April 01, 2017, 05:25:32 AM »
This is a little different type of story - but it makes me want to face-palm so....
I teach at a small private college. One of my freshmen advisees is working 50 hours a week to help pay for college and trying to be a pre-med major (even though she hates science classes ... but that's another post). She is currently averaging about a D in her classes and failing our most basic chemistry class (chemistry for non-science majors). Her time working is definitely causing her poor GPA.

"But I have to work to pay for college!" Me: "Yes, but working that much is causing you to fail most of your classes. What good does it do to work like a dog to pay for classes that you don't pass. If you don't pass them, they don't count - even if you transfer."

"But I have to work to pay for college ...."   Sigh.

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« Reply #17164 on: April 01, 2017, 05:40:50 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

No, you are nor crazy. A company could also go bankrupt while you are still waiting for your money.
I don't know their agenda, but they might have done it on purpose for whatever reason. Maybe just jealousy. Ask again for your money at a level higher in the organization.

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« Reply #17165 on: April 01, 2017, 06:27:59 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

While it is sad when a delayed check completely screws up someone's life because they are so financially on the edge, I don't think it's non-Mustachian to complain when a paycheck it late.  An employer expects the employees to be on time (or have projects in on time if they work from home).  Employees should expect to be paid on time.  In general the pay schedule to explained during orientation or in the employee manual. 

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« Reply #17166 on: April 01, 2017, 09:47:33 AM »
A delayed paycheck would mess my system up, if I wasn't expecting it. I have every dollar going to different areas with automatic transfers. My usual buffer in my checking account is less than a full paycheck. I could move money from my emergency fund to cover a missed check or even several checks, but if I didn't expect it I could bounce.

Fortunately, my job is really good about pays. It is usually in my account the day before it is supposed to be. I would be pretty upset if they failed to pay me. Even though it wouldn't wreck me.

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« Reply #17167 on: April 01, 2017, 10:06:34 AM »
A delayed paycheck would mess my system up, if I wasn't expecting it. I have every dollar going to different areas with automatic transfers. My usual buffer in my checking account is less than a full paycheck. I could move money from my emergency fund to cover a missed check or even several checks, but if I didn't expect it I could bounce.

Fortunately, my job is really good about pays. It is usually in my account the day before it is supposed to be. I would be pretty upset if they failed to pay me. Even though it wouldn't wreck me.

I used to run relatively tight tolerances like that on my checking accounts. Then I got burned when my credit union changed their online systems and it didn't save an auto-transfer that I needed to pay my mortgage on time. The transfer was set the week before the mortgage was due, so I didn't catch it until the mortgage payment bounced... Now I keep approximately a one-month expenses buffer to give myself plenty of time to catch potential issues in advance.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17168 on: April 01, 2017, 11:05:58 AM »
A girl at work (27 yrs old I think) recently had her mom's house burn down and she told me she had $20k of shoes she lost. Not even including heels or her kid's shoes, but her Jordans and other shoes that are often $160 a pair. She's been collecting them since high school.

She's making $11-$12 an hour right now, and made like $18 an hour in the past. So $20k is not a small chunk by any means.

They did have insurance on the house but not enough to cover everything after the house itself.

I'm glad I don't really have anything to lose if my house/apartment burns down (other than pets of course). The two most expensive things would be my bike, then my mattress.


I babysit occasionally for friends of mine with 4 kids.  I know they buy lots of junk food, toys, and of course, have the expenses of 4 kids.  They laugh about the expense of groceries and how it matches their mortgage payments.... she works a government job in accounting or something related and he is a school teacher.


He has (at last count) 3 utility shelves (the metal/garage style ones) filled FULL (think, stacked from shelf to the bottom of the next shelf)  of Jordans and fancy Nike shoes.  The top of their wall length closet is also packed from shelf to ceiling with such shoes.  They are still in the boxes, he rotates wearing them, and if it rains, he has a back up pair of "crappy" (aka, normal) shoes to wear instead, and carries his Jordans in his backpack.

He likely has over 300 pairs of these things.  And he is over 6 foot, so I'm sure his size is unusual and potentially more expensive (I wouldn't know...I've never bought Jordans). 



If that were all, I'd be like "whatever, thats his thing".  NOPE.  He also has almost a full basement (2 small rooms are kids rooms, that main living space and extra room in the basement are his) FULL of cardinal baseball stuff.

Collectibles, signed stuff, autographed balls, etc.  FULL, as in, no wall space, most of the floor space taken up with the displays....shelves everywhere full.

The amount of money spent on his "collections" makes me wince...particularly since I get their mail for them too, and I know they still owe on student loans, and they are in their early/mid 30s. 

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« Reply #17169 on: April 01, 2017, 12:23:21 PM »
So he isn't even "collecting" those shoes, but using them?
And then not using them if they might *gasp* get wet?
WTF?
He has more then I will ever use in my whole life, so even if he wears a few pairs down he still has lots and then can put back the out-used in their box without having to take them out again!


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« Reply #17170 on: April 01, 2017, 05:23:17 PM »
So he isn't even "collecting" those shoes, but using them?
And then not using them if they might *gasp* get wet?
WTF?
He has more then I will ever use in my whole life, so even if he wears a few pairs down he still has lots and then can put back the out-used in their box without having to take them out again!

Yeah, its pretty outrageous.  I wear out maybe a pair of shoes a year...maybe 2 if you count summer sandals.  And I wear the same couple year round...

I know he is still occasionally purchasing too...he and his son occasionally get matching pairs (son is 2) and he posts new pairs once in a while on social media. 

Its painful...

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« Reply #17171 on: April 01, 2017, 11:14:49 PM »
My coworkers were late to our usual 'coffee run' (to the kitchen to use the company-provided Keurigs), because they were shopping. Apparently Lids is having a huge sale on MLB gear. One guy said he bought 10 shirts - I said I recently had to pare down my clothing because dresser was full, and his response was 'that's when you overflow to the guest bedroom closets'. Kidding? Not sure.

The bad part is...I'm thinking about buying a couple things too. *facepalm*
Though I won't feel guilty at all about buying a few gift items (because it is a good deal), it's the things I want but don't need that are haunting me.


And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.

Depends on how often you buy things that are wants that differs us from the over spenders, it also matters if the wants are just stockpiled and never used.

Note to self, check the nut & bolt collection in case I nee to replace some not used that are rusty

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« Reply #17172 on: April 02, 2017, 07:01:11 AM »
And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.
Give the belt to someone who does woodcarving or likes to sharpen kitchen knives.  They will make a strop from it and will be grateful for the leather.

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« Reply #17173 on: April 02, 2017, 07:28:30 AM »
And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.
Give the belt to someone who does woodcarving or likes to sharpen kitchen knives.  They will make a strop from it and will be grateful for the leather.
How do you sharpen a knife with leather?

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« Reply #17174 on: April 02, 2017, 07:35:11 AM »
How do you sharpen a knife with leather?

The final part of sharpening, when refining the edge to get the final sharpness out of the blade is called "stropping".  Leather is sought after for this. Sometimes the leather is "loaded" with a polishing compound, but often the leather is used as is.

If you e.g. see an old time barber with a straight razor, they often do the stropping of the razor on something that looks like leather belt. 

Newspapers or cardboard pieces are also sometimes used for this purpose. Or a very fine grained sharpening stone.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17175 on: April 03, 2017, 06:52:16 AM »
And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.
My parents and grandparents (I grew up in a multi-gen home) raised my brother and me this way. Trainers replaced when old ones were worn out. If they were tight, they went to my brother. Some shirts and pants passed from my dad to me to my brother. Pants became shorts; grandma got mad sewing macheen skillz, yo! New pair of clothes and shoes either on birthday or Diwali (Indian New Year's Eve), but not both, and not always.
My brother and I used to complain how our cousins had so much, but now we realize that the minimalist training was good for us, and we're grateful for it. My wife grew up the same way. Focus was on health and fitness instead of materialism.
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« Reply #17176 on: April 03, 2017, 11:44:56 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

That last line about control? That's why you're leaving the company in the first place. Go ahead and be upset about it, you're trying to get your life together and they're still f***ing it up.

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« Reply #17177 on: April 03, 2017, 11:59:25 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

That last line about control? That's why you're leaving the company in the first place. Go ahead and be upset about it, you're trying to get your life together and they're still f***ing it up.
Start to add interest on the pay you are (over)due. 6% over baserate is the legal here.

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« Reply #17178 on: April 03, 2017, 12:50:13 PM »
And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.
Give the belt to someone who does woodcarving or likes to sharpen kitchen knives.  They will make a strop from it and will be grateful for the leather.

It's a nice thought, but most belts make terrible strops. Here's a hint if you want a quality leather product, make sure it says "Top Grain" or "Full Grain".   The "Genuine Leather" label only means it actually came from a cow, but the leather quality is terrible. Often belts are some sort of fabric core with a very thin layer of "genuine" leather on top. And by the time they wear out, the leather is haggard and pretty worthless. Also, most belts are too thin width-wise (vertical while wearing) to be much use. Now if it's a wide, solid leather belt, that might be worth something.

Edit: Oh yeah, stay away from anything that says "Bonded Leather", that's what designates it as pretty much leather veneer over some other material.
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« Reply #17179 on: April 03, 2017, 02:45:37 PM »
I'm in Texas and buy wide "cowboy" belts from our local thrift store and glue them to a flat board.  But you are definitely right about "dress" belts.  They don't work.

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« Reply #17180 on: April 04, 2017, 09:19:06 AM »
One of my guilty little pleasures is looking up what my co-workers paid for their homes. I feel downright giddy when I see that they've paid $100k to $200k more than me for the privilege of owning a piece of the real estate pie in this very high cost of living metro area. Sure, our house is small and not in the fancy school district, but for me, it's our golden ticket out of the cube farm.
Oooh, the nosey person in me wants to do that too! How does one go about this?
Zillow is easier. Just type in the address and scroll down to the Price History tab. It also shows you how much over the asking price they paid. Sometimes their listing photos are still up, for added voyeuristic thrills.

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« Reply #17181 on: April 04, 2017, 09:39:01 AM »
She smokes about 2 packs a week at $50 a pop ($1/cig). Plus her partner smokes even more. Total: $800/month

Cigarettes come in packs of 50 and are $50 there?  Not sure which of those numbers is weirder..

OMG, I looked this up, and yes, there is a $40+ tax on a pack of cigarettes in Australia. And they are sold in packs of 20-50 with various increments in between.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3572446/Budget-2016-cigarettes-40-packets-make-Australia-world-s-expensive.htmlu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_pack (source for packs of 50)

I have to come out here as a smoker, which is totally un-mustachian, as it is pretty clearly destroying my health (and even though I equate smoking with pleasure, it's not really the pursuit of happiness). But, I roll my own and use pipe tobacco, which is the same as cigarette tobacco, just cut differently, as I understand it -- and it is not taxed at the rate cigarettes are in the U.S.  It costs me $1 per pack!

You're killing yourself, but you're doing it frugally? #Getthefuckouttahere!

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« Reply #17182 on: April 04, 2017, 10:32:22 AM »
Got a coworker some snacks from the international food store since he's not close to one. He said he can't pay me until Friday (payday). The total is $5...

He only makes $12/hour but still!

He also just bought an SUV for $6000 (with a loan of course) despite being 20, single, and no kids. At least he drove the last car past 300k miles. I really don't get people and their SUVs, especially in the south where it snows MAYBE once a year.

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« Reply #17183 on: April 04, 2017, 11:15:50 AM »
Got a coworker some snacks from the international food store since he's not close to one. He said he can't pay me until Friday (payday). The total is $5...

He only makes $12/hour but still!

He also just bought an SUV for $6000 (with a loan of course) despite being 20, single, and no kids. At least he drove the last car past 300k miles. I really don't get people and their SUVs, especially in the south where it snows MAYBE once a year.

I just cannot understand how someone could expect you to cover them until payday, regardless of how much it was.  Now, I'm assuming that they asked you to pick these items up knowing that they couldn't repay you immediately.  If that is so, that is so so wrong.  Who made you their bank?

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« Reply #17184 on: April 04, 2017, 11:29:42 AM »
Got a coworker some snacks from the international food store since he's not close to one. He said he can't pay me until Friday (payday). The total is $5...

He only makes $12/hour but still!

He also just bought an SUV for $6000 (with a loan of course) despite being 20, single, and no kids. At least he drove the last car past 300k miles. I really don't get people and their SUVs, especially in the south where it snows MAYBE once a year.

I just cannot understand how someone could expect you to cover them until payday, regardless of how much it was.  Now, I'm assuming that they asked you to pick these items up knowing that they couldn't repay you immediately.  If that is so, that is so so wrong.  Who made you their bank?

Nah, that wasn't really the case. I wasn't going to go to the store until after payday anyway, but ended up being able to go a week early and asked if he wanted them now. I posted the story because he can't cover a $5 expense unless it's after payday...

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« Reply #17185 on: April 04, 2017, 01:38:50 PM »
Got a coworker some snacks from the international food store since he's not close to one. He said he can't pay me until Friday (payday). The total is $5...

He only makes $12/hour but still!

He also just bought an SUV for $6000 (with a loan of course) despite being 20, single, and no kids. At least he drove the last car past 300k miles. I really don't get people and their SUVs, especially in the south where it snows MAYBE once a year.

I just cannot understand how someone could expect you to cover them until payday, regardless of how much it was.  Now, I'm assuming that they asked you to pick these items up knowing that they couldn't repay you immediately.  If that is so, that is so so wrong.  Who made you their bank?

Nah, that wasn't really the case. I wasn't going to go to the store until after payday anyway, but ended up being able to go a week early and asked if he wanted them now. I posted the story because he can't cover a $5 expense unless it's after payday...
Ahhh, got it.  not being able to cover $5 is not great. But I'm glad they weren't also taking advantage of your generosity. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17186 on: April 04, 2017, 01:50:28 PM »
I really enjoy my coworkers.  They're a fun bunch.  But when I leave the group outing at 7pm to get home in time to tuck my son in, they stay out.  LATE.

My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.

I'm sure I'll have some more stories to share.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17187 on: April 04, 2017, 01:54:43 PM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

While it is sad when a delayed check completely screws up someone's life because they are so financially on the edge, I don't think it's non-Mustachian to complain when a paycheck it late.  An employer expects the employees to be on time (or have projects in on time if they work from home).  Employees should expect to be paid on time.  In general the pay schedule to explained during orientation or in the employee manual.

and depending on where you are, that's beyond inconvenient, it may actually be illegal. Some states have specific rules about how long an employer has to pay you.

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« Reply #17188 on: April 04, 2017, 02:07:03 PM »
I really enjoy my coworkers.  They're a fun bunch.  But when I leave the group outing at 7pm to get home in time to tuck my son in, they stay out.  LATE.

My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.

I'm sure I'll have some more stories to share.

Wow. Please share. Maybe I just have low energy or something, but I'm not a morning person so I have to go to bed pretty early and get 9+ hours of sleep to not feel useless at work. I would be fine if I was moving around a lot, but I mainly just have a desk job so I absolutely cannot stay awake on too little sleep.

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« Reply #17189 on: April 04, 2017, 03:07:07 PM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17190 on: April 04, 2017, 04:12:39 PM »
Former co-worker - always thought they were a closet mustachian and I was wrong - single early 50's - make about $100,000 and drove 10 year old car.  Broke down and bought a new car - sensible Honda CRV - then posted how they were upset to have a car payment that they could barely afford!  Come on now....save some of those car payments you did not have to make for 5 years.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17191 on: April 05, 2017, 01:33:30 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
No, dont worry, they have a talking job. Air traffic control.

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« Reply #17192 on: April 05, 2017, 01:57:03 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
No, dont worry, they have a talking job. Air traffic control.
Whew.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17193 on: April 05, 2017, 06:19:50 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
No, dont worry, they have a talking job. Air traffic control.
Whew.

Haha, not quite.

Most of them are salesmen and applications engineers.  Although, the two biggest spenders, and the guys that skips sleep sometimes, are both Operations Managers.

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« Reply #17194 on: April 05, 2017, 06:54:22 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
No, dont worry, they have a talking job. Air traffic control.
Whew.

... Although, the two biggest spenders, and the guys that skips sleep sometimes, are both Operations Managers.
Ah, managers, so nothing of value is lost then? :P

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17195 on: April 05, 2017, 10:29:03 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
No, dont worry, they have a talking job. Air traffic control.
Whew.

Haha, not quite.

Most of them are salesmen and applications engineers.  Although, the two biggest spenders, and the guys that skips sleep sometimes, are both Operations Managers.

I knew it. We clearly work together.

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« Reply #17196 on: April 06, 2017, 12:17:47 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.f


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

While it is sad when a delayed check completely screws up someone's life because they are so financially on the edge, I don't think it's non-Mustachian to complain when a paycheck it late.  An employer expects the employees to be on time (or have projects in on time if they work from home).  Employees should expect to be paid on time.  In general the pay schedule to explained during orientation or in the employee manual.

and depending on where you are, that's beyond inconvenient, it may actually be illegal. Some states have specific rules about how long an employer has to pay you.
Update --

So I (politely) updated the issue and accounting expedited a money transfer to my account for the payout, which landed today!   Only 3 weeks later than it should have, but I am quite happy to know the money is in my control, now.

Now I need to see why my last business expenses ($3500) did not go through -- likely held back, as it often is,  for a single $200 receipt or something that was not legible or in the format they wanted -- tough to check now that I no longer work there...I wish they could have paid out the remainder, and just rejected the one line on the expense form instead of the whole thing....

Count my blessings to have gotten the pay today, though.   I will only think happy thoughts...

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« Reply #17197 on: April 06, 2017, 04:53:34 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

While it is sad when a delayed check completely screws up someone's life because they are so financially on the edge, I don't think it's non-Mustachian to complain when a paycheck it late.  An employer expects the employees to be on time (or have projects in on time if they work from home).  Employees should expect to be paid on time.  In general the pay schedule to explained during orientation or in the employee manual.

This.  It appears that within the next 30 days 537 babies (I count the executive branch too) may cause me to get an IOU instead of a paycheck because the can't pass a fucking budget.  I bitch just as much as my paycheck to paycheck co-workers.  Why the fuck should I have to move money from my savings, or delay a scheduled investment movement because they haven't done their job that should have been done 9 months ago.  Just because I have an emergency fund does not mean I want to use it.  I do enjoy the "we swear neverrun has a job that will pay her at some point" letter they give me to provide to creditors.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17198 on: April 06, 2017, 12:41:40 PM »
I really enjoy my coworkers.  They're a fun bunch.  But when I leave the group outing at 7pm to get home in time to tuck my son in, they stay out.  LATE.

My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.

I'm sure I'll have some more stories to share.

Just curious -what is the salary range of said coworkers? 
I am just curious to know what type of money do people make that spend like this.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17199 on: April 06, 2017, 01:19:36 PM »
I really enjoy my coworkers.  They're a fun bunch.  But when I leave the group outing at 7pm to get home in time to tuck my son in, they stay out.  LATE.

My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.

I'm sure I'll have some more stories to share.

Just curious -what is the salary range of said coworkers? 
I am just curious to know what type of money do people make that spend like this.

My best estimate is $80k - $110k.  I don't know for sure though.