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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9300 on: July 14, 2015, 12:39:25 PM »
How come you are all making fun of it?  Perfectly normal usage, eh?

Growing up and living most of my life in Oklahoma, I've heard some interesting things said regularly... "might could" is one of them.  "Fixin' to" is another one that's used a lot.  As in "I'm fixin' to go to the store."  But my dad always used to say one that I am especially fond of.  He would say "how come" instead of why.  "How come it's taking you so long to get ready."  :)  I don't hear it often but whenever I do, it makes me smile.

You learn something new every day.  I've been using "How come..." my whole life and I found out just now it isn't perfectly good English?!?  It is to my ears :-)

Ya'll's grammar needs fixed.

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« Reply #9301 on: July 14, 2015, 12:49:00 PM »
Our new inside sales guys were discussing "bulking up" which meant all kinds of talk of expensive whey powders (dude make some ricotta cheese and use the whey), different supplements, expensive shakes etc.  Coworker one reveals he spends roughly 500 a month on this stuff (and the dude is NOT buff, he's fat, like fat fat)...Coworker 2 however took the cake by revealing he not only spends about that but that he spends another 300 a month on ILLEGAL STEROIDS!!!  Mind you we work in a place with a drug policy, do a lot of government contract clearance work, and he is just starting out his career and this is one of those things that could tank his entire career and life.

MishMash; just an FYI.  If you have a security clearance it's in your interest to report this guy to company leadership.  I've seen a similar circumstance where one employee told another that he was using anabolic steroids.  When the steroid user was caught, both lost their jobs and their clearances.  Steroids are a Schedule III narcotic - not good.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9302 on: July 14, 2015, 01:34:19 PM »
How come you are all making fun of it?  Perfectly normal usage, eh?

Growing up and living most of my life in Oklahoma, I've heard some interesting things said regularly... "might could" is one of them.  "Fixin' to" is another one that's used a lot.  As in "I'm fixin' to go to the store."  But my dad always used to say one that I am especially fond of.  He would say "how come" instead of why.  "How come it's taking you so long to get ready."  :)  I don't hear it often but whenever I do, it makes me smile.

You learn something new every day.  I've been using "How come..." my whole life and I found out just now it isn't perfectly good English?!?  It is to my ears :-)

Seriously. I was born and raised in Boston, traveled all over the country and the world, and have never had anyone laugh at or poke at my "how come." I thought everyone used it everywhere in English (as much as anything else is used in a language worldwide). My mind is blown.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9303 on: July 14, 2015, 01:55:13 PM »
How come you are all making fun of it?  Perfectly normal usage, eh?

Growing up and living most of my life in Oklahoma, I've heard some interesting things said regularly... "might could" is one of them.  "Fixin' to" is another one that's used a lot.  As in "I'm fixin' to go to the store."  But my dad always used to say one that I am especially fond of.  He would say "how come" instead of why.  "How come it's taking you so long to get ready."  :)  I don't hear it often but whenever I do, it makes me smile.

You learn something new every day.  I've been using "How come..." my whole life and I found out just now it isn't perfectly good English?!?  It is to my ears :-)

Seriously. I was born and raised in Boston, traveled all over the country and the world, and have never had anyone laugh at or poke at my "how come." I thought everyone used it everywhere in English (as much as anything else is used in a language worldwide). My mind is blown.

Yep. I'm a bit of a stickler for grammar, and I've used "how come" my whole life. I've never had anyone call it incorrect before now.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9304 on: July 14, 2015, 02:10:33 PM »
Our new inside sales guys were discussing "bulking up" which meant all kinds of talk of expensive whey powders (dude make some ricotta cheese and use the whey), different supplements, expensive shakes etc.  Coworker one reveals he spends roughly 500 a month on this stuff (and the dude is NOT buff, he's fat, like fat fat)...Coworker 2 however took the cake by revealing he not only spends about that but that he spends another 300 a month on ILLEGAL STEROIDS!!!  Mind you we work in a place with a drug policy, do a lot of government contract clearance work, and he is just starting out his career and this is one of those things that could tank his entire career and life.

MishMash; just an FYI.  If you have a security clearance it's in your interest to report this guy to company leadership.  I've seen a similar circumstance where one employee told another that he was using anabolic steroids.  When the steroid user was caught, both lost their jobs and their clearances.  Steroids are a Schedule III narcotic - not good.

Oh one of our VPs was standing in the kitchen behind a wall about 5 feet away and he and I both heard it and just looked at each other...like why the hell would you say that to your coworkers that you've known less then a few months.  Said coworker doesn't hold a clearance but I don't think he will be employed for much longer. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9305 on: July 14, 2015, 02:12:44 PM »

Yep. I'm a bit of a stickler for grammar, and I've used "how come" my whole life. I've never had anyone call it incorrect before now.

I didn't intend to offend anyone or insinuate they were wrong for their use of "how come"... it always reminds me of my dad and makes me smile.  Use it by all means!  I like to smile.  :)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9306 on: July 14, 2015, 02:15:39 PM »
How come y'all missed this?  Found on Facebook today.
"Looking for a office job have lots of receptionist experience. Or anything of a morning to day time shift jobs."
Does this count for a use of "of a morning"?

And what about using "...ya hear?"
« Last Edit: July 14, 2015, 02:18:48 PM by Joggernot »

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9307 on: July 14, 2015, 02:27:02 PM »

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Wow! That is some expensive bingo. I used to sometimes go to bingo with my sister as a cheap night out, it cost something like €5 a sheet and you could play up to four sheets, IIRC. Great night out, but, spending a grand on it in less than a week?

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Ha ha ha funny!!! :)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9308 on: July 14, 2015, 02:30:19 PM »
Yep. I'm a bit of a stickler for grammar, and I've used "how come" my whole life. I've never had anyone call it incorrect before now.
I could see it growing out of (British) English in a fairly natural fashion.
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« Reply #9309 on: July 14, 2015, 02:31:57 PM »
One I can't stand is "might could" meaning either "might" or "could", as in "I might could sing that song".

My favorite is when people have worked really hard to rid themselves of a "hick" accent, and then this slips out when they aren't paying attention. The mortification is epic!

I had a girlfriend who had this issue. There were 2 or 3 words where she couldn't say them without a drawl. It's interesting how those things get so ingrained and can't be changed.

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« Reply #9310 on: July 14, 2015, 02:35:27 PM »
As an Indian person, born in Canada, but lived in Atlanta for 20+ years I can't help but use y'all and find this comment more offensive than a lot of the recent race discussions from the Facebook thread.

Don't worry, I'm not mad over it just think it's interesting how American it is to throw around labels and classify people....

Sure, it's American. And Indian. And British. And Sudanese. And....

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9311 on: July 14, 2015, 02:36:50 PM »
One I can't stand is "might could" meaning either "might" or "could", as in "I might could sing that song".

My favorite is when people have worked really hard to rid themselves of a "hick" accent, and then this slips out when they aren't paying attention. The mortification is epic!

I had a girlfriend who had this issue. There were 2 or 3 words where she couldn't say them without a drawl. It's interesting how those things get so ingrained and can't be changed.

I understand that you can lose accents over time, but it really annoys me when people try to lose them on purpose.

To quote Jason Isbell, "Don't worry about losin your accent, cause a southern man tells better jokes"

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9312 on: July 14, 2015, 03:01:31 PM »

That's a shame. There are a few people I work with like that, but I think of them as quaint country-folk, not as the norm. I suppose over the years I've taught myself to separate people from their politics, since most people mean well, just haven't looked into the science and facts much.

I live and work in a rural area of a northern state.  I have had actual discussions with coworkers disagreeing that Obama has not, in fact, had the most Executive Orders ever.  This is something that is a fact, and can be found online.  But nope, the Dictator in Chief is definitely just sending out dozens of those babies every week.  Also, carbon dating is a giant worldwide conspiracy theory and they're doing it wrong, because the 6,000 years old earth as stated in the Bible is the way it really is. Oy.

And dinosaurs never existed the same folks insist. Wife gave up 15-20 mins to a coworker once who wanted to make his point that the world was only 6,000 years old and never any dinosaurs. This was a college educated person too...

Fossils are just something God made.  Also, same coworkers were trying to convince me last week that the Affordable Care Act was an Executive Order signed by Obama and Congress would have stopped it if they could have...

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« Reply #9313 on: July 14, 2015, 03:18:02 PM »
So replacing the grammatically correct "on" with "of".

I guess so, but I never really thought about it before.

Technically this came up on my Facebook awhile ago and not at work, but there's an interesting explanation of this construction at http://www.thefreedictionary.com/of+a+morning (it goes on further, if anyone is really into the grammar derivation.)
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Some speakers of vernacular English varieties, particularly in isolated or mountainous regions of the Southern United States, use phrases such as of a night or of an evening in place of at night or in the evening, as in We'd go hunting of an evening. This of construction is used only when referring to a repeated action, where Standard English uses nights, evenings, and the like, as in We'd go hunting nights. It is not used for single actions, as in She returned at night.

I personally love idiomatic speech and regional constructions, they make language more interesting and rich to my ears. One I noticed recently was the phrase 'get you some ___'.  I tend to have a low tolerance for non-standard or confusing habits in written communication, however.

A woman I work with uses this quite frequently.  Usually with morning ("Of a morning, I'll eat breakfast at 7.")  She's from Oklahoma originally but has lived in Kansas for 50+ years.  She's the only one I've ever heard use the phrase.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9314 on: July 14, 2015, 04:04:16 PM »
Reality returns: never mind, having short sighted employees can be useful too I'm sure. A previous employer liked to have folks up to their noses in debt (I think) - employees were a little desperate to keep their job and would work ridiculous hours and go dangerous places like the border towns of Mexico to manage projects.

Yep, that I know all too well. Eventually, after the first 3 years at my current job, my boss stopped trying to talk me into buying a new car ("When are you going to upgrade your car?" "Don't you think it's time for a new car?" etc). Of course, in the 6+ years that I've now been there, he's gone through 4 cars already himself, and has been upside down on each and every single trade-in.

As for the discussion on grammar and language, we've got a unique little expression here that I love...

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now now
just now

Saying that you'll do something now, means you'll do it right away. Saying that you'll do something now now, means you'll do it soon. And, saying that you'll do something just now, means that it will be a while longer before you get to it.

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« Reply #9315 on: July 14, 2015, 04:40:06 PM »
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now now
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Saying that you'll do something now, means you'll do it right away. Saying that you'll do something now now, means you'll do it soon. And, saying that you'll do something just now, means that it will be a while longer before you get to it.

Never heard of "now now". I would think it means "instantly"--reinforcing the immediacy of now.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9316 on: July 14, 2015, 04:53:17 PM »
Painfully witnessed in person at work: some guy completely flunked his in-person interview for a technical lead position. There had been two separate phone screens before hand, where the person appeared very knowledgeable and competent, whereas this guy was rambling platitudes and offering no specifics whatsoever when prompted.

We are now thinking that this guy paid an experienced professional to take the phone screen for him, somehow hoping that he could BS his way through the rest of the interview process. This company operates in an industry where background checks are notoriously thorough, so I don't know how he could possibly think that he could get away with this. Mind blown.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9317 on: July 14, 2015, 05:05:52 PM »
Never heard of "now now". I would think it means "instantly"--reinforcing the immediacy of now.

Yes, you would think so, but not so in SA.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9318 on: July 14, 2015, 06:53:56 PM »
I bought a protein shake at the employee fitness center the other day, using my ID badge to pay for it, so it comes out of my paycheck. The guy behind the counter tried to tell me that those deductions are pre-tax, and didn't understand when I explained that they aren't. Someone else overheard and agreed with the first guy...

I wonder if they have some sort of 'health and fitness' amount that's provisioned for pre-tax.... I know though my work we get $200 that we can spend on things like gym fees, sports classes, and certain other types of purchases. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9319 on: July 14, 2015, 09:44:14 PM »
I bought a protein shake at the employee fitness center the other day, using my ID badge to pay for it, so it comes out of my paycheck. The guy behind the counter tried to tell me that those deductions are pre-tax, and didn't understand when I explained that they aren't. Someone else overheard and agreed with the first guy...

I wonder if they have some sort of 'health and fitness' amount that's provisioned for pre-tax.... I know though my work we get $200 that we can spend on things like gym fees, sports classes, and certain other types of purchases.

Nope. I work at a hospital; we can use our badges to pay for extras at the gym (gym membership fee is also paid via payroll deduction), visits to the employee health clinic, cafeteria meals, and the gift shop. But these aren't part of any pre-tax amount; they're just purchases. I double-checked a recent paystub and it is definitely all post-tax.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9320 on: July 15, 2015, 07:32:15 AM »
As an Indian person, born in Canada, but lived in Atlanta for 20+ years I can't help but use y'all and find this comment more offensive than a lot of the recent race discussions from the Facebook thread.

Don't worry, I'm not mad over it just think it's interesting how American it is to throw around labels and classify people....

Sure, it's American. And Indian. And British. And Sudanese. And....

Can't we all just get along and hate everyone equally? :-P

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Re: Overheard at Work
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« Reply #9322 on: July 15, 2015, 07:46:22 AM »
I was invited out to lunch today to celebrate payday.  I declined.

1) How do you celebrate something that happens every 2 weeks?
2) Why does the money being deposited in your account result in a need to immediately spend it?


I didn't even know it was payday, so I certainly am not going to celebrate.

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« Reply #9323 on: July 15, 2015, 07:56:51 AM »
I was invited out to lunch today to celebrate payday.  I declined.

1) How do you celebrate something that happens every 2 weeks?
2) Why does the money being deposited in your account result in a need to immediately spend it?


I didn't even know it was payday, so I certainly am not going to celebrate.

Today is my payday. I'm celebrating by doing "my books" and making sure all my money is in the right places. :)

But yeah, odd thing to celebrate.

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« Reply #9324 on: July 15, 2015, 08:10:32 AM »
I was invited out to lunch today to celebrate payday.  I declined.

1) How do you celebrate something that happens every 2 weeks?
2) Why does the money being deposited in your account result in a need to immediately spend it?


I didn't even know it was payday, so I certainly am not going to celebrate.

Today is my payday. I'm celebrating by doing "my books" and making sure all my money is in the right places. :)

But yeah, odd thing to celebrate.

I celebrated payday today with coffee and breakfast! Paid a whole $5.04. But that was mostly due to my being in a huge rush to get out the door, and not having any quick food around.

Although now that I think about it, I don't think that I could have paid for that meal before today--I certainly can't now, 1.5 hours later. But that is mostly because I've already "spent" the whole paycheck on savings, retirement, rent, groceries, entertainment, etc.

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« Reply #9325 on: July 15, 2015, 09:52:04 AM »
My husband recently converted from contract to FTE status at Gigantico USA. This comes with certain awesome perks, like cell phone discounts, 401K matching, subsidized insurance, etc.

On his first day as an FTE, DH learned from a coworker that one of the perks was, he could get a great deal on a Chrysler - "just 6% over dealer invoice!" - so therefore DH should run out and buy a brand new car to take advantage of the savings.

DH said, "well, our plan is pretty much to drive our car until the wheels fall off." Coworker said, "Oh, I thought that's pretty much where you were."

We have a 2007 Toyota 4Runner with 100k-ish miles on it. From our perspective it's basically a new car - just starting to get comfortably broken in. From CWs perspective our vehicle is so old and decrepit it must be replaced RIGHT NOW.

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« Reply #9326 on: July 15, 2015, 10:05:30 AM »
I didn't even know it was payday, so I certainly am not going to celebrate.

I aspire to not notice payday like you someday, but seeing my net worth number tick upwards onscreen still activates the reward center in my brain. Also, my pay dates happen to coincide with the recycling schedule in my neighborhood, so oddly enough I have come to see the deposit notification as a reminder to take out my bins!

But, no, the occasion is not my green flag to spend either!
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9327 on: July 15, 2015, 10:10:43 AM »
I was invited out to lunch today to celebrate payday.  I declined.

1) How do you celebrate something that happens every 2 weeks?
2) Why does the money being deposited in your account result in a need to immediately spend it?


I didn't even know it was payday, so I certainly am not going to celebrate.

I didn't used to get this, but I recently started challenging myself with a strict spending budget (rent+$1000 in SF, it's been rough getting used to it), so I tend to be very 'broke' by the time payday comes around.  I found myself being excited about payday today so I could have some spending money again.  Sad way to live when you're actually broke every 2 weeks, but I understand the excitement over a paycheck to be able to spend now (vs most of us here that get excited for payday because we get to put more money into savings/investments).

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« Reply #9328 on: July 15, 2015, 10:27:22 AM »
I didn't used to get this, but I recently started challenging myself with a strict spending budget (rent+$1000 in SF, it's been rough getting used to it), so I tend to be very 'broke' by the time payday comes around.  I found myself being excited about payday today so I could have some spending money again.  Sad way to live when you're actually broke every 2 weeks, but I understand the excitement over a paycheck to be able to spend now (vs most of us here that get excited for payday because we get to put more money into savings/investments).
I hate that sensation so much that I use an entirely different approach - I don't set number limits, I just identify one spending category at a time and focus on changing my attitude toward it, one decision at a time. For example, eating out crept up to an unacceptable spending level, so I decided to reduce it. I place a very high value on socializing and staying connected (and my friend group is a source of real estate leads) so I don't refuse to eat out with friends, but I only accept every 2nd or 3rd meal invite. I snack ahead of time and go for cheaper options, and I make a point of inviting people to my place for delicious but inexpensive home-cooked options - like last week, when DW and I shared brunch with several friends for the cost of one entree at the usual dive. *poof* restaurant budget shaved by 60-80% on average; no feeling of deprivation or loss.

Overheard at work: one of our senior(ish) managers (secondhand) said he keeps working because of "greed". He has a fat military retirement and is rumored to have a million in the bank, but still drives a rickety 20-year-old van that spawns sex offender jokes daily. All signs are that he could retire any time but can't bring himself to give up the pay, regardless of need. To me, it sounds like like all the hard parts of Mustachianism without the fun (I'd infer SWAMI status but this one doesn't like the job any better than the average worker bee).

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« Reply #9329 on: July 15, 2015, 10:36:24 AM »

I didn't used to get this, but I recently started challenging myself with a strict spending budget (rent+$1000 in SF, it's been rough getting used to it), so I tend to be very 'broke' by the time payday comes around.  I found myself being excited about payday today so I could have some spending money again.  Sad way to live when you're actually broke every 2 weeks, but I understand the excitement over a paycheck to be able to spend now (vs most of us here that get excited for payday because we get to put more money into savings/investments).

I guess that makes sense.

I don't keep any budget at all. I do have auto deposits to some accounts (obviously 403b then Roth IRA, and now the amount we will be spending on daycare into a taxable account, just to see how that effects the month to month- we expect not at all, really) then I just don't spend money on things I don't need (or really want), and when my checking account reaches a certain threshold I move the surplus to investment accounts.

It results in us hitting about 70% savings each year, so it seems to work.  That % is going to drop with the upcoming daycare expenses, but it shouldn't make a difference overall.

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« Reply #9330 on: July 15, 2015, 01:29:33 PM »
So this was just sent to everyone in our office...

"Good afternoon:

I put up a poster on the bulletin board in the lunch room with the heading:

“Let’s talk about the Elephant in the Room”

Beside this poster I pinned a little gray elephant, in the hopes I would draw attention to the poster.

On numerous occasions when I have gone down to get myself a coffee, I have found the elephant removed and pinned up in what I guess is a humorous fashion on the board.

I have replaced the stuffed elephant and left no remarks, only to find it moved again and again the next time I go into the lunch room.

Today I found it on a table with tiny playing cards attached to its’ body.

I am really happy that the elephant has drawn so much attention, but the intent was to draw attention to Mental Illness (an Anti-Stigma Campaign).

Please take the time to read the information in the poster. Someone may need your support one day.

Thanks"


The stuffed elephant was getting more people talking about mental health than the poster was.

Clearly a sign that the stresses of working in your office have led to widespread mental illness.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9331 on: July 15, 2015, 02:27:12 PM »
So this was just sent to everyone in our office...

"Good afternoon:

I put up a poster on the bulletin board in the lunch room with the heading:

“Let’s talk about the Elephant in the Room”

Beside this poster I pinned a little gray elephant, in the hopes I would draw attention to the poster.

On numerous occasions when I have gone down to get myself a coffee, I have found the elephant removed and pinned up in what I guess is a humorous fashion on the board.

I have replaced the stuffed elephant and left no remarks, only to find it moved again and again the next time I go into the lunch room.

Today I found it on a table with tiny playing cards attached to its’ body.

I am really happy that the elephant has drawn so much attention, but the intent was to draw attention to Mental Illness (an Anti-Stigma Campaign).

Please take the time to read the information in the poster. Someone may need your support one day.

Thanks"


The stuffed elephant was getting more people talking about mental health than the poster was.

So crazy lady hangs up a sign and an elephant and gets mad that people focus on the elephant?  That said, I would bring in other animals from home to join the elephant, he seems lonely.  Or replace the elephant and update the poster to talk about the "alligator" in the room.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9332 on: July 15, 2015, 02:29:28 PM »
And they never break character, no matter who they are.  I wear a fedora, and we went to the 50's cafe. I had a black waitress that was probably 30 years older than me, who kept calling me "massa".  I seriously looked at her the first time she did that and said, "wow, you people never break character do you?"  She didn't even change her expression.  She was a waitress, not an actress playing any known character.
She called you "massa"; you spoke to her, leading with "you people"; and she didn't even change her expression?!?!?!  This is so wrong on so many levels . . . *eyes bugging out of my head, ears bleeding*

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This blows my mind. Not sure if I could eat in an establishment that expects that of an employee. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9333 on: July 15, 2015, 02:34:03 PM »

I didn't used to get this, but I recently started challenging myself with a strict spending budget (rent+$1000 in SF, it's been rough getting used to it), so I tend to be very 'broke' by the time payday comes around.  I found myself being excited about payday today so I could have some spending money again.  Sad way to live when you're actually broke every 2 weeks, but I understand the excitement over a paycheck to be able to spend now (vs most of us here that get excited for payday because we get to put more money into savings/investments).

I guess that makes sense.

I don't keep any budget at all. I do have auto deposits to some accounts (obviously 403b then Roth IRA, and now the amount we will be spending on daycare into a taxable account, just to see how that effects the month to month- we expect not at all, really) then I just don't spend money on things I don't need (or really want), and when my checking account reaches a certain threshold I move the surplus to investment accounts.

It results in us hitting about 70% savings each year, so it seems to work.  That % is going to drop with the upcoming daycare expenses, but it shouldn't make a difference overall.

We don't really budget, but my allotments are arranged in accord with our average spending such that there is purposefully very little surplus in our checking except for smallish buffer.  I manually deposit money into our IRAs.  So if I decided to buy up before pay day to take advantage of a dip in the market, I am quite happy to see my paycheck deposited. I certainly wouldn't celebrate getting paid by spending unnecessarily, however.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9334 on: July 15, 2015, 02:40:53 PM »
And they never break character, no matter who they are.  I wear a fedora, and we went to the 50's cafe. I had a black waitress that was probably 30 years older than me, who kept calling me "massa".  I seriously looked at her the first time she did that and said, "wow, you people never break character do you?"  She didn't even change her expression.  She was a waitress, not an actress playing any known character.
She called you "massa"; you spoke to her, leading with "you people"; and she didn't even change her expression?!?!?!  This is so wrong on so many levels . . . *eyes bugging out of my head, ears bleeding*

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This blows my mind. Not sure if I could eat in an establishment that expects that of an employee.

I don't think that was the case.  There were many other resturants she could have worked at within the same park, if the character profile was really offensive to her, but I was originally taken aback by it.  IIRC, she was the only black server at the time; so it's entirely possible she was the only black server willing to play that kind of character.  Like I said, she didn't even change her expression, which was quite pleasant, and she was a wonderful waitress.  That was one of my largest tips ever.  One of my gauges is that when I buy a 'bottomless' beverage, that I never see the bottom of that cup before my plate is clear.  I can remember exactly 2 times that a server did this one perfectly, and that meal at the 50's diner was one of them.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9335 on: July 15, 2015, 05:33:23 PM »
... I studied several Romance languages at school and always appreciated being able to distinguish between the singular 'you' and the plural 'you', especially on the internet where tone fails can result in a lot of fallout. I therefore took to using "y'all" when I mean "you people generally" as it lessens the chance of an individual poster thinking that I am talking about (and possibly insulting) them personally. In this case I used it to distinguish between "you, the poster I am replying to" and "all of you Americans generally".

Careful! Y'all is often singular. Use "all y'all" to be sure.


Y'all is always plural; "all y'all" is reflexive or emphatic. :-)


Another option, used about as often as y'all in this area, is y'uns. Short for you 'uns, of course.

ETA a husband tells me "y'all" was pretty well universally adopted aboard ship (US Navy) because it fills a practical need.

What the heck are yinz talking about?

There's a Pittsburgher in the house!

The Chinese also have a word for y'all...ni men.

Still finishing up the thread, but I had to jump in on this.  Yes the Chinese have a word for y'all, ni men, they also have a word for inclusive y'all, zan men, which means y'all and I, though usage of zan men depends on what region you are in.  Interestingly, the Taiwanese dialect doesn't have a word for y'all, but instead uses the more colloquial term which is literally translated as big family, da jia, which is pronounced da gei in Taiwanese.  (For those that don't read roman pinyin it sounds like dah gay).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9336 on: July 15, 2015, 07:34:54 PM »
Overheard at my office:

While discussing a recent surprise departure of a colleague.
Boss: Does anyone know where he went?
Shaken heads all around.
Boss: Well he couldn't have retired, he's not much older than me.

Me (Internally): And you are ~15 years older than me.  We are going to be having a very awkward conversation in the next couple of years.


And even more egregious, but not at work.  I had a bachelorette party where two of my fellow bridesmaids spent the entire trip gushing about their latest designer clothing, purses, shoes, watches, jewelry, etc.  Not my cuppa, but they both have good jobs so if they want to spend their money on such things it's their prerogative.  Cue random conversation with one of the Spendypants.

Spendypants: We really want to have children soon.  I'm not getting any younger.
Me: That's exciting.
SP: Well, I just don't think we can yet.
Me: (Trying to be sensitive, because I don't want to tread on potential fertility problems) Inarticulate noise meant to convey understanding and distress.
SP: Yeah, there's no way that we could afford kids.
Me: Oh, I guess children can be expensive.
SP: I don't know how anyone our age does it.
Me: I suppose once they have kids, they have to cut back some of their other spending.
SP: Well I couldn't make any cuts.  I hardly go out at all now.

I boggled for a few minutes remembering the brand new designer dress, three pairs of  new designer shoes, the new designer handbag and the new iWatch thing she had already shown me/bragged about this weekend. 

Le sigh.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9337 on: July 16, 2015, 07:12:16 AM »
And they never break character, no matter who they are.  I wear a fedora, and we went to the 50's cafe. I had a black waitress that was probably 30 years older than me, who kept calling me "massa".  I seriously looked at her the first time she did that and said, "wow, you people never break character do you?"  She didn't even change her expression.  She was a waitress, not an actress playing any known character.
She called you "massa"; you spoke to her, leading with "you people"; and she didn't even change her expression?!?!?!  This is so wrong on so many levels . . . *eyes bugging out of my head, ears bleeding*

+1

This blows my mind. Not sure if I could eat in an establishment that expects that of an employee.

I don't think that was the case.  There were many other resturants she could have worked at within the same park, if the character profile was really offensive to her, but I was originally taken aback by it.  IIRC, she was the only black server at the time; so it's entirely possible she was the only black server willing to play that kind of character.  Like I said, she didn't even change her expression, which was quite pleasant, and she was a wonderful waitress. That was one of my largest tips ever.  One of my gauges is that when I buy a 'bottomless' beverage, that I never see the bottom of that cup before my plate is clear.  I can remember exactly 2 times that a server did this one perfectly, and that meal at the 50's diner was one of them.

I wonder if she figured this would be the case with most tables and was willing to play the game for larger tips.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9338 on: July 16, 2015, 08:09:10 AM »
And they never break character, no matter who they are.  I wear a fedora, and we went to the 50's cafe. I had a black waitress that was probably 30 years older than me, who kept calling me "massa".  I seriously looked at her the first time she did that and said, "wow, you people never break character do you?"  She didn't even change her expression.  She was a waitress, not an actress playing any known character.
She called you "massa"; you spoke to her, leading with "you people"; and she didn't even change her expression?!?!?!  This is so wrong on so many levels . . . *eyes bugging out of my head, ears bleeding*

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This blows my mind. Not sure if I could eat in an establishment that expects that of an employee.

Having been to that restaurant many times, I wonder if he misheard an accented pronunciation of "Mister".
"Massa" is certainly not something common there, if even existing. There is NO WAY Disney requires that of their cast members.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9339 on: July 16, 2015, 10:28:36 AM »
And they never break character, no matter who they are.  I wear a fedora, and we went to the 50's cafe. I had a black waitress that was probably 30 years older than me, who kept calling me "massa".  I seriously looked at her the first time she did that and said, "wow, you people never break character do you?"  She didn't even change her expression.  She was a waitress, not an actress playing any known character.
She called you "massa"; you spoke to her, leading with "you people"; and she didn't even change her expression?!?!?!  This is so wrong on so many levels . . . *eyes bugging out of my head, ears bleeding*

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This blows my mind. Not sure if I could eat in an establishment that expects that of an employee.

Having been to that restaurant many times, I wonder if he misheard an accented pronunciation of "Mister".
"Massa" is certainly not something common there, if even existing. There is NO WAY Disney requires that of their cast members.

This was my thought too.  I didn't think 50s black waitresses called anyone "massa", that massa was much closer to slavery times.  I would also be very surprised that, even if historically accurate, Disney would want the political shitstorm that would come from having a black employee call a white patron massa.  As a non-black patron, it would be very uncomfortable.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9340 on: July 16, 2015, 10:44:54 AM »
On the way to work this morning, I was behind a Volkswagon with a personalized license plate that said "AUDILUV." 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9341 on: July 16, 2015, 10:52:40 AM »


I admit I'm an adult and I love Disney.  Only been 1-2 times in my adult life, though.  It's a combination of a few things:

1) A lot of nostalgia from the few times I went there as a kid
2) Disney is amazing at building little worlds... the architecture and detail throught the park is fascinating (like how they can make an otherwise boring food stand look like dwarves live in it).


And they never break character, no matter who they are.  I wear a fedora, and we went to the 50's cafe. I had a black waitress that was probably 30 years older than me, who kept calling me "massa".  I seriously looked at her the first time she did that and said, "wow, you people never break character do you?"  She didn't even change her expression.  She was a waitress, not an actress playing any known character.

And a lot of the real resturants in the parks are just plain cool, whether or not you have kids.  Remember Cinderella's castle that is in every advertisment?  There is a 6+ month advance reservation resturant inside there, where all the servers are characters from the movie.  And they don't do this half way, this looks real up close, even when you know it can't be so.  However, that turned out to be $150 per plate, so I never did it again; but damn, was it an entertaining brunch.

Sorry, just don't buy this at all.  I am a bit of a Disney World freak and have also eaten at the '50s Primetime on numerous occasions, and there is no way this happened.  The servers at the restaurant act like family members - either your  mom, brother, cousin, crazy uncle, whatever.  Most are over-the-top in their silliness and command their new "family members" to eat their veggies and make them set the table.  It's a completely fun, jovial environment and what you describe would be completely amiss in this setting. Once when we had an African-American server, she even joked that she was from the more tanned side of the family. 

Also, meals at Cinderella's Castle are not cheap, but they are nowhere near $150 per plate - more like $50.  I question if you have ever ven been there because your recollections are way off.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9342 on: July 16, 2015, 10:57:03 AM »
One I can't stand is "might could" meaning either "might" or "could", as in "I might could sing that song".

My favorite is when people have worked really hard to rid themselves of a "hick" accent, and then this slips out when they aren't paying attention. The mortification is epic!

I had a girlfriend who had this issue. There were 2 or 3 words where she couldn't say them without a drawl. It's interesting how those things get so ingrained and can't be changed.

I understand that you can lose accents over time, but it really annoys me when people try to lose them on purpose.

To quote Jason Isbell, "Don't worry about losin your accent, cause a southern man tells better jokes"

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9343 on: July 16, 2015, 11:25:23 AM »
One I can't stand is "might could" meaning either "might" or "could", as in "I might could sing that song".

My favorite is when people have worked really hard to rid themselves of a "hick" accent, and then this slips out when they aren't paying attention. The mortification is epic!

I had a girlfriend who had this issue. There were 2 or 3 words where she couldn't say them without a drawl. It's interesting how those things get so ingrained and can't be changed.

I understand that you can lose accents over time, but it really annoys me when people try to lose them on purpose.

To quote Jason Isbell, "Don't worry about losin your accent, cause a southern man tells better jokes"

Hey! Another DBT fan! I love Outfit, great song. That whole album is Most Excellent:)

DBT is good. Jason Isbell is better. Way better.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9344 on: July 16, 2015, 11:34:39 AM »


I admit I'm an adult and I love Disney.  Only been 1-2 times in my adult life, though.  It's a combination of a few things:

1) A lot of nostalgia from the few times I went there as a kid
2) Disney is amazing at building little worlds... the architecture and detail throught the park is fascinating (like how they can make an otherwise boring food stand look like dwarves live in it).


And they never break character, no matter who they are.  I wear a fedora, and we went to the 50's cafe. I had a black waitress that was probably 30 years older than me, who kept calling me "massa".  I seriously looked at her the first time she did that and said, "wow, you people never break character do you?"  She didn't even change her expression.  She was a waitress, not an actress playing any known character.

And a lot of the real resturants in the parks are just plain cool, whether or not you have kids.  Remember Cinderella's castle that is in every advertisment?  There is a 6+ month advance reservation resturant inside there, where all the servers are characters from the movie.  And they don't do this half way, this looks real up close, even when you know it can't be so.  However, that turned out to be $150 per plate, so I never did it again; but damn, was it an entertaining brunch.

Sorry, just don't buy this at all.  I am a bit of a Disney World freak and have also eaten at the '50s Primetime on numerous occasions, and there is no way this happened.  The servers at the restaurant act like family members - either your  mom, brother, cousin, crazy uncle, whatever.  Most are over-the-top in their silliness and command their new "family members" to eat their veggies and make them set the table.  It's a completely fun, jovial environment and what you describe would be completely amiss in this setting. Once when we had an African-American server, she even joked that she was from the more tanned side of the family. 

Also, meals at Cinderella's Castle are not cheap, but they are nowhere near $150 per plate - more like $50.  I question if you have ever ven been there because your recollections are way off.

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I highly doubt they have been either.  I've been to Primetime myself numerous times and there is no way that would have ever happened.  I have been ribbed about eating my vegetables and keeping my elbows off the table, but nothing like what was described.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9345 on: July 16, 2015, 12:08:10 PM »
One of my gauges is that when I buy a 'bottomless' beverage, that I never see the bottom of that cup before my plate is clear.  I can remember exactly 2 times that a server did this one perfectly, and that meal at the 50's diner was one of them.

Being a waitress is a tough job. I know some people that don't like it when a waitress keeps filling their bottomless mug because then they have to add sugar and cream to keep the balance up. Sometimes you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9346 on: July 16, 2015, 12:12:34 PM »


I admit I'm an adult and I love Disney.  Only been 1-2 times in my adult life, though.  It's a combination of a few things:

1) A lot of nostalgia from the few times I went there as a kid
2) Disney is amazing at building little worlds... the architecture and detail throught the park is fascinating (like how they can make an otherwise boring food stand look like dwarves live in it).


And they never break character, no matter who they are.  I wear a fedora, and we went to the 50's cafe. I had a black waitress that was probably 30 years older than me, who kept calling me "massa".  I seriously looked at her the first time she did that and said, "wow, you people never break character do you?"  She didn't even change her expression.  She was a waitress, not an actress playing any known character.

And a lot of the real resturants in the parks are just plain cool, whether or not you have kids.  Remember Cinderella's castle that is in every advertisment?  There is a 6+ month advance reservation resturant inside there, where all the servers are characters from the movie.  And they don't do this half way, this looks real up close, even when you know it can't be so.  However, that turned out to be $150 per plate, so I never did it again; but damn, was it an entertaining brunch.

Sorry, just don't buy this at all.  I am a bit of a Disney World freak and have also eaten at the '50s Primetime on numerous occasions, and there is no way this happened.  The servers at the restaurant act like family members - either your  mom, brother, cousin, crazy uncle, whatever.  Most are over-the-top in their silliness and command their new "family members" to eat their veggies and make them set the table.  It's a completely fun, jovial environment and what you describe would be completely amiss in this setting. Once when we had an African-American server, she even joked that she was from the more tanned side of the family. 

Also, meals at Cinderella's Castle are not cheap, but they are nowhere near $150 per plate - more like $50.  I question if you have ever ven been there because your recollections are way off.

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I highly doubt they have been either.  I've been to Primetime myself numerous times and there is no way that would have ever happened.  I have been ribbed about eating my vegetables and keeping my elbows off the table, but nothing like what was described.

According to the following site, meal prices are as follows. "Entree range
Character breakfast, $58 adults, $36 children; character lunch, $60 adults, $38 children; character dinner, $73 adults, $43 children. Note: Prices increase during peak periods." I don't know how much the prices increase during peak periods, but if you include tax and tip it is possible to get closer to the $150/plate. And if it wasn't that far off, maybe their memory just rounded up a little.

http://touringplans.com/magic-kingdom/dining/cinderellas-royal-table

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9347 on: July 16, 2015, 12:15:43 PM »
One of my gauges is that when I buy a 'bottomless' beverage, that I never see the bottom of that cup before my plate is clear.  I can remember exactly 2 times that a server did this one perfectly, and that meal at the 50's diner was one of them.

Being a waitress is a tough job. I know some people that don't like it when a waitress keeps filling their bottomless mug because then they have to add sugar and cream to keep the balance up. Sometimes you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I now always ask servers to not refill my tea until I am done for this reason.

Which reminded me of an experience I had at outback drinking iced tea.  I probably got 4-5 refills over the course of the meal. EVERY time a server (different one each time, just whomever walked by with tea, I guess) would walk by, they'd fill up my tea, and then my Dad's.  Except my Dad wasn't drinking tea.  He was drinking a beer that was basically the same color.  So he'd have to flag someone down to replace his beer.

It was a pain, but it worked out well for him, because each time he got a new full beer, and he had already finished half of it when the "refill" came.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9348 on: July 16, 2015, 12:18:40 PM »
One of my gauges is that when I buy a 'bottomless' beverage, that I never see the bottom of that cup before my plate is clear.  I can remember exactly 2 times that a server did this one perfectly, and that meal at the 50's diner was one of them.

Being a waitress is a tough job. I know some people that don't like it when a waitress keeps filling their bottomless mug because then they have to add sugar and cream to keep the balance up. Sometimes you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I now always ask servers to not refill my tea until I am done for this reason.

Which reminded me of an experience I had at outback drinking iced tea.  I probably got 4-5 refills over the course of the meal. EVERY time a server (different one each time, just whomever walked by with tea, I guess) would walk by, they'd fill up my tea, and then my Dad's.  Except my Dad wasn't drinking tea.  He was drinking a beer that was basically the same color.  So he'd have to flag someone down to replace his beer.

It was a pain, but it worked out well for him, because each time he got a new full beer, and he had already finished half of it when the "refill" came.

Sounds like a win.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9349 on: July 16, 2015, 02:14:14 PM »
I've done the bring from home math vs. the eat out.  Seems like a lot of people discount the fact that food brought from home cost $$ too.  I find on a $6 eat out, I pay about $3 to replicate from home.

Now, if you are eating a few carrot sticks and a piece of cheese I understand.  Curious about the comparison...
I can (and usually do) eat for less than a dollar. I try to stay stocked in frozen leftovers to avoid processed food. My most recent example is chicken stir fry and grilled asparagus over rice that cost about $10 in total and produced 7 servings, for a per-meal price of $1.42. My regular standby, tricolor rotini or penne ($1) in marinara ($1) with a small amount of turkey sausage ($2) and various veggies ($2-3) is even cheaper per serving. As backup, I stash store-brand soups and Spaghettio knockoffs that run from $0.69 to $0.99, or occasionally Cup-o-Noodles ($0.50). High in salt but OK for occasional use.

$6 is the low end for our cafe'; the full meal deal is $9. Take that over 2,500 workdays + a decade of investment returns and there you go.

I still buy breakfast occasionally, since I can get a pretty decent protein dose (eggs+bacon/sausage) for under $3, but I'm sticking more to oatmeal and frozen turkey sausage lately to keep the per-meal cost at $0.20-$0.40.
Today's tally:
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Breakfast  $0      $4
Lunch       $0.69 $14

Should I tell him I'm keeping score? >.<