Overheard at Work

[GuitarStv]

Some insurers won't even insure you if you own certain breeds like a pit bull. Risks are deemed too high.

Mike

This is just as ridiculous as breed-specific legislation.  I love my dog Coco to pieces, and she's never bitten anybody, but that's because I'm responsible and I don't put her in situations where that could happen. It's not because I couldn't foresee it happening if I was less responsible. She has anxiety issues, is deathly afraid of children due to an incident with a bratty neighbor child when she was a puppy (came up behind us and pulled Coco's tail, both hurting her and startling her), and she could potentially snap at a child if she was scared enough.

She's a 14-pound maltese/toy poodle mix. She looks like a teddy bear.

This is one of my "issues" -- you know, an issue that gets you riled up every time you hear about it. The idea is not only based on ignorance about certain dog breeds, but on unjustified fear caused by poorly-researched articles (a lot of the attacks attributed to pit bulls were by a wholly different breed of dog, but people can't seem to tell the difference).

Sorry, rant over. The insurance companies that refuse to insure because of the type of dog you have are ridiculous. I don't think my insurance company even asked if I had a dog.

While I completely agree with your point around bad owners instead of bad breeds, my understanding of insurance companies is that most of their decisions are made based on statistics and evidence. It just so happens that bad dog owners these days are getting more pit bulls, which results in more incidents involving pit bulls where insurance companies end up having to pay out, which results in them raising rates or refusing coverage. It's the same reason why home owner's insurance is cheaper if you are a non-smoker, or if you have a home alarm system, or why car insurance is more expensive for young men, or in high-theft neighbourhoods.

From what I have read, it seems that in the past, similar fears have existed for dobermans and rottweilers.

If you look at the list of breeds commonly uninsurable for homeowners insurance, some of them make sense because of bad owners (pits, rotties, etc) and some I'm just baffled by. Great Danes, Alaskan Malamutes, and Huskies. I have never heard of an aggressive Dane and basically every Mal and Husky I've met is non-aggressive too.

But yeah, I can't change my insurance because anyone else either won't cover my Mal or will charge ridiculous extra because of him even though he's the biggest teddy bear you'll ever meet

Yeah I never got the husky/malamute thing either. When I think "most common bad husky behavior," I think "running away/chasing small animals," not "biting humans." Our older dog was a pound puppy (so we don't know for sure) but appears to be a husky/GSD mix... both of which apparently appear on ban lists, but at least we can just say he's a mutt, LOL.

CHEWING...omg mine chews on stuff non...stop... if we aren't home, if she can find it and reach it, she will destroy it.  TP, cardboard, empty bottles, pillows...you name it, she's eaten it at some point in time, including a squirrel last summer, she snatched it off of our 7 foot fence.  And my husband runs her 6 or so miles every morning so it can't be a "not enough exercise thing"

It's not enough exercise.  We had the same issue with our dog.  More exercise=a tired dog=a good dog. 

When she doesn't get enough exercise, she starts to destroy things that aren't her toys/bones.

When I lived up north several of my friends had Huskies and Malamutes as sled dogs.  Pulling a sled for 100 km in a day is no big thing for these dogs.  6 miles isn't even a warmup.  As to the biting thing, I've met some very sweet sled dogs but people often keep them outdoors and in a pack.  They behave a lot more aggressively when kept in that way and they'll bite pretty readily if they don't like the look of you or know you.

[MishMash]

Nah the biter was my neighbors dog, my husky would probably pee herself if she ever snapped.  She's an uber submissive (no idea why she's been like that since we got her) love moosh of licking tail wagging.

I still don't get the exercise thing, she does 6ish miles in the morning, an afternoon walk, AND an hour of free running ball time when I get home from work.  Vet in the past has though separation anxiety, but there's not really much we can do about it.

[mtn]

I still don't get the exercise thing, she does 6ish miles in the morning, an afternoon walk, AND an hour of free running ball time when I get home from work.  Vet in the past has though separation anxiety, but there's not really much we can do about it.

So the dog gets about 3-4 hours of exercise a day? This is a breed that is genetically designed to run for about 12 hours a day (non-continuous) and up to 100 miles a day. While pulling a sled.

[MishMash]

I still don't get the exercise thing, she does 6ish miles in the morning, an afternoon walk, AND an hour of free running ball time when I get home from work.  Vet in the past has though separation anxiety, but there's not really much we can do about it.

So the dog gets about 3-4 hours of exercise a day? This is a breed that is genetically designed to run for about 12 hours a day (non-continuous) and up to 100 miles a day. While pulling a sled.

She's not a pure bred, she's a mutt, their best guess is husky and german shepard.

[Travis]

When I was a kid one of my friends got a dog that was some kind of wolf/malmute mix (wolf side was dominant).  It was a tall, slender, and excited fur factory and acted like a bratty teenager - except when around visitors.  The dog spent too much time inside and never got enough attention.  It wasn't necessarily neglected, but it was a very social creature with an independent streak.  It never got aggressive, but knew how to push the parent's buttons.  They were just not the kind of family I would have expected to own a dog, let alone that breed.  They would have been better off with a smaller breed that just sits around and doesn't disturb anything.

[Elliot]

+1  I was more concentrating on not punching him in the face.  He's ground zero for me, routinely tries to smack my ass or do an "accidental" tit grab at every office function

I'm sorry what?? That is sexual harassment AND assault and should be reported. You're likely not the only person he is doing this to and someone needs to speak up to put a stop to his behavior.

[MishMash]

+1  I was more concentrating on not punching him in the face.  He's ground zero for me, routinely tries to smack my ass or do an "accidental" tit grab at every office function

I'm sorry what?? That is sexual harassment AND assault and should be reported. You're likely not the only person he is doing this to and someone needs to speak up to put a stop to his behavior.

He has been reported, it's done nothing....it's a part of my toxic vampire squid job (I have an entire thread running on my contemplation of telling them all to go fuck themselves), I'm one of only 2 females in the company, and the other one is a MUCH older VP. 

[Elliot]

+1  I was more concentrating on not punching him in the face.  He's ground zero for me, routinely tries to smack my ass or do an "accidental" tit grab at every office function

I'm sorry what?? That is sexual harassment AND assault and should be reported. You're likely not the only person he is doing this to and someone needs to speak up to put a stop to his behavior.

You can report to the local authorities.

He has been reported, it's done nothing....it's a part of my toxic vampire squid job (I have an entire thread running on my contemplation of telling them all to go fuck themselves), I'm one of only 2 females in the company, and the other one is a MUCH older VP.

[RyanAtTanagra]

You can report to the local authorities.

Or knee him in the groin every time he does it until he stops, and dare anyone to say anything negative to you

[Elliot]

Here is what OSHA has to say on the matter, if you'd prefer to report it to them.

[RunHappy]

+1  I was more concentrating on not punching him in the face.  He's ground zero for me, routinely tries to smack my ass or do an "accidental" tit grab at every office function

I'm sorry what?? That is sexual harassment AND assault and should be reported. You're likely not the only person he is doing this to and someone needs to speak up to put a stop to his behavior.

You can report to the local authorities.

He has been reported, it's done nothing....it's a part of my toxic vampire squid job (I have an entire thread running on my contemplation of telling them all to go fuck themselves), I'm one of only 2 females in the company, and the other one is a MUCH older VP.

I unfortunately learned this one the hard way. Next time, tell him very loudly to not touch you.  Write it down, what he did, your response, and report him again.  Do this EVERY SIGNLE TIME.  If nothing happens then you will have a sexual harassment suit with documentation. 

[I'm a red panda]

If nothing is happening when you report to your HR, if he actually touches you (and really even if he doesn't, you still could)- I'd report to police. 

[MishMash]

We're getting off topic lol

To answer, we don't have an HR department.  I kindly informed him after the last time that I carry a concealed 9mm or .45 on me at all times and explained how good of a shot I am.  We'll see if he does it again.

[gimp]

I still don't get the exercise thing, she does 6ish miles in the morning, an afternoon walk, AND an hour of free running ball time when I get home from work.  Vet in the past has though separation anxiety, but there's not really much we can do about it.

So the dog gets about 3-4 hours of exercise a day? This is a breed that is genetically designed to run for about 12 hours a day (non-continuous) and up to 100 miles a day. While pulling a sled.

3-4 hours of exercise is plenty to make most huskies and malamutes behave and not tear everything up. Unless you honestly think that there is no husky/mal anywhere in the US, that isn't pulling a sled all day, that behaves.

Also, 100 miles is not 100 km, and 100km is at the upper range of what those dogs can do.

[iknowiyam]

Overheard at work: talking about home appliances...

CW1: Oh, a few months ago our refrigerator broke. We had to throw out EVERYTHING. It must have been $300-$400 worth of food.

CW2: Wait, don't you have a second fridge?

CW1: Well yeah, but that one is also pretty full. There wasn't much we could fit in there.

....

Is it normal to assume people have 2 fridges? Is it normal to have $300 worth of items in thee fridge? What planet am I from?

[Avidconsumer]

My poster child un mustachian co worker quit.  On her way out she told me this job is offering her 20k a year more and "now maybe we won't be living hand to mouth", she told me 3 weeks ago their household income is 225k according to their taxes.  225k....and they were living hand to mouth.  In her next sentence she talked about the new Volvo she wanted, when she' going to be using the Metro to go work.  Oh, and it's JUST her and her husband and a dog...no kids.

On a second note, one of our salesguys is here in the office today (he's stationed in another state), I hate this guy beyond all level of hatred that is normal.  No one in the office really likes him and our CEO calls him the man child behind his back.

Man Child (MC) to me:  Guess what?!?!  I'm buying a house, a pit bull, and an engagement ring this year!

Me:  Congrats on the house and fiance, you excited?

MC:  Well, it's a lot of responsibility, I'm not sure if I'm ready, but I close next week, sold all my toys for the down payment (yay?) so I guess I have to be.

Me:  If you aren't ready, then why are you buying?

MC:  Well, I figured it's time to be more responsible (he's 37), but really I can't keep ANYTHING for a long time, I've had 10 cars in the last 3 years, 4 motorcycles and a boat.  Plus I don't know how to fix anything so that can get costly.  Plus it's going to run me 700 bucks a month for my condo fees.

Me:  Yea, it can, you have to be prepared for it.  But a house doesn't make you an automatic adult ya know (and thinking holy shit 700 a month in condo fees!)

MC:  Yea, that's why I'm getting engaged!

Me:  Wait, you're getting married so that people will think you more of an adult?  Do you love her?

MC:  Well, she puts up with my shit, isn't that what marriage is about?

Me:  It's a part of it, but what about all the other parts like you putting up with her shit, or you not whoring around on her (he routinely does this), or what happens if she gets ill, or fat or whatever, are you still going to want to be with her?  You need to decide that or your divorce is going to be insane!

MC:  Meh, I'll figure the divorce part out later if she does pull those things, I'm broke so it's not like she'll get anything anyway

Me:  You know that pitbull is going to cost you in the way of homeowners insurance right?

MC:  Oh, I didn't know a dog could change your rates!  Would it effect me getting another car loan too?  My broker told me to not get a car loan until after I closed for some reason, not sure why

Me *blink* *blink*, oh crap I forgot this meeting I have to go to...cya!

I love how you take this guy's answers literally. His responses are very cliché and what you would expect from this type of guy. Sounds like a proper geezer to me.

[jordanread]

We're getting off topic lol

To answer, we don't have an HR department.  I kindly informed him after the last time that I carry a concealed 9mm or .45 on me at all times and explained how good of a shot I am.  We'll see if he does it again.

I, a random internet stranger, demand a follow up to this. :) I'm sorry you have to deal with that, that shit sucks. I'm sure you could find some Mustachians around those parts who'd be willing to go to war for you (even though it sounds like you are doing that already).

I still don't get the exercise thing, she does 6ish miles in the morning, an afternoon walk, AND an hour of free running ball time when I get home from work.  Vet in the past has though separation anxiety, but there's not really much we can do about it.

So the dog gets about 3-4 hours of exercise a day? This is a breed that is genetically designed to run for about 12 hours a day (non-continuous) and up to 100 miles a day. While pulling a sled.

3-4 hours of exercise is plenty to make most huskies and malamutes behave and not tear everything up. Unless you honestly think that there is no husky/mal anywhere in the US, that isn't pulling a sled all day, that behaves.

Also, 100 miles is not 100 km, and 100km is at the upper range of what those dogs can do.

He he. I'd highly suggest dog skiing. You don't have skis, but the dogs have a harness. One in each hand, a snowy road, and happiness :). Also, from my experience, dogs who habitually chew usually have some type of nutritional deficit. Granted, my GSD cut way back on chewing random things once I figured out his diet. He will still chew when he is bored, but not nearly as much, and not if he has something tastier around (like an injured chicken [:(] or a beef shoulder).

[Quark]

A week or so before Valentine's day CW comes over freaking out about how they did a dry run of their taxes and probably have to pay $11,000 because they messed up their withholdings.

At that point I felt bad because $11k IS alot of money to have in liquid savings for most people. At one point though "we made more than we ever have last year" came out of her mouth and I still tried not to judge because it would be unusual to have that much in savings. She's an admin asst so probably makes $50k. Let's assume her husband makes a similar or slightly more amount.

The week after Valentine's she comes in showing off her new Coach purse and says something like, her husband loves to buy things and leave the surprises around the house for her. And talked about the spa trip she took on valentine's which I think was a present she got from him for Christmas.

I suddenly don't feel bad for her tax situation.

[MishMash]

I love how you take this guy's answers literally. His responses are very cliché and what you would expect from this type of guy. Sounds like a proper geezer to me.

No, he was being literal....this guy is about as stupid of a human being as I have ever met, we can't even send him to client sites because we've had complaints about his lack of intelligence.  There is a whole lotta office politics surrounding why he is currently employed.

[Travis]

The week after Valentine's she comes in showing off her new Coach purse and says something like, her husband loves to buy things and leave the surprises around the house for her. And talked about the spa trip she took on valentine's which I think was a present she got from him for Christmas.

I suddenly don't feel bad for her tax situation.

I've seen this in a few places the last month or so with tax season where people have honestly said (or tv/radio ads implore you to) spend your tax refund while it's burning a hole in your pocket lest you save it or :::gasp::: spend it on something you actually need.  It was somewhere here in the "Anti" section where someone just had to blow their refund on toys otherwise they'd have to spend the money on an appliance that was about to break.

[zolotiyeruki]

Is it normal to assume people have 2 fridges? Is it normal to have $300 worth of items in thee fridge? What planet am I from?

We almost certainly have >$300 of food in our fridge--our weekly grocery budget is about $225, and there is food that stays in the freezer some times for a few weeks.

Of course, we have a family of 8.  And we *do* have two fridges, although one of them we use almost exclusively for its freezer...

[dragoncar]

Overheard at work: talking about home appliances...

CW1: Oh, a few months ago our refrigerator broke. We had to throw out EVERYTHING. It must have been $300-$400 worth of food.

CW2: Wait, don't you have a second fridge?

CW1: Well yeah, but that one is also pretty full. There wasn't much we could fit in there.

....

Is it normal to assume people have 2 fridges? Is it normal to have $300 worth of items in thee fridge? What planet am I from?

To be fair, $300 is only like three 4lb lobsters.

[horsepoor]

Overheard at work: talking about home appliances...

CW1: Oh, a few months ago our refrigerator broke. We had to throw out EVERYTHING. It must have been $300-$400 worth of food.

CW2: Wait, don't you have a second fridge?

CW1: Well yeah, but that one is also pretty full. There wasn't much we could fit in there.

....

Is it normal to assume people have 2 fridges? Is it normal to have $300 worth of items in thee fridge? What planet am I from?

Our fridge took a shit and started freezing everything.  I was pissed about losing about $50 worth of food, but luckily we have an unused wine cooler that we were able to transfer some of the food to.  I think if *everything* in the fridge + attached freezer got too warm and spoiled, we'd be out about $100.  And having two fridges full of food is insane unless you've got a huge family.

[Sibley]

My poster child un mustachian co worker quit.  On her way out she told me this job is offering her 20k a year more and "now maybe we won't be living hand to mouth", she told me 3 weeks ago their household income is 225k according to their taxes.  225k....and they were living hand to mouth.  In her next sentence she talked about the new Volvo she wanted, when she' going to be using the Metro to go work.  Oh, and it's JUST her and her husband and a dog...no kids.

On a second note, one of our salesguys is here in the office today (he's stationed in another state), I hate this guy beyond all level of hatred that is normal.  No one in the office really likes him and our CEO calls him the man child behind his back.

Man Child (MC) to me:  Guess what?!?!  I'm buying a house, a pit bull, and an engagement ring this year!

Me:  Congrats on the house and fiance, you excited?

MC:  Well, it's a lot of responsibility, I'm not sure if I'm ready, but I close next week, sold all my toys for the down payment (yay?) so I guess I have to be.

Me:  If you aren't ready, then why are you buying?

MC:  Well, I figured it's time to be more responsible (he's 37), but really I can't keep ANYTHING for a long time, I've had 10 cars in the last 3 years, 4 motorcycles and a boat.  Plus I don't know how to fix anything so that can get costly.  Plus it's going to run me 700 bucks a month for my condo fees.

Me:  Yea, it can, you have to be prepared for it.  But a house doesn't make you an automatic adult ya know (and thinking holy shit 700 a month in condo fees!)

MC:  Yea, that's why I'm getting engaged!

Me:  Wait, you're getting married so that people will think you more of an adult?  Do you love her?

MC:  Well, she puts up with my shit, isn't that what marriage is about?

Me:  It's a part of it, but what about all the other parts like you putting up with her shit, or you not whoring around on her (he routinely does this), or what happens if she gets ill, or fat or whatever, are you still going to want to be with her?  You need to decide that or your divorce is going to be insane!

MC:  Meh, I'll figure the divorce part out later if she does pull those things, I'm broke so it's not like she'll get anything anyway

Me:  You know that pitbull is going to cost you in the way of homeowners insurance right?

MC:  Oh, I didn't know a dog could change your rates!  Would it effect me getting another car loan too?  My broker told me to not get a car loan until after I closed for some reason, not sure why

Me *blink* *blink*, oh crap I forgot this meeting I have to go to...cya!

I really, really hope that he doesn't have children.

[GuitarStv]

I still don't get the exercise thing, she does 6ish miles in the morning, an afternoon walk, AND an hour of free running ball time when I get home from work.  Vet in the past has though separation anxiety, but there's not really much we can do about it.

So the dog gets about 3-4 hours of exercise a day? This is a breed that is genetically designed to run for about 12 hours a day (non-continuous) and up to 100 miles a day. While pulling a sled.

3-4 hours of exercise is plenty to make most huskies and malamutes behave and not tear everything up. Unless you honestly think that there is no husky/mal anywhere in the US, that isn't pulling a sled all day, that behaves.

Also, 100 miles is not 100 km, and 100km is at the upper range of what those dogs can do.

Well, to be fair they'll do 100 mile days in the Iditarod, but there are a lot of breaks and support built into the race.  That's probably pushing the dogs pretty hard though.

[partgypsy]

We adoped a mix-breed dog (looks like a hound dog, and genetic test done years later came up as terrier, coonhound, German Shepard). He was pretty much out of control the first year we got him (he was about a year old). Took him for walks 2-3 times a day. But he was constantly barking, would jump or tunnel under our 6 foot fence and run away, also in the evening would tear back and forth the length of our house barking and jumping on us. I was really ready to re-home him. I think it was the 2nd dog trainer we talked to said, you really need to be exercising him more. And we are like, we take him for walks multiple times a day. And she was like, no, I'm talking about an hour in the morning, an hour in the evening, walks are not going to cut it. Also suggested other activities he could do. But we didn't follow advice so we put up with a crazy dog for a couple more years until we did work it in more. My one regret is that we didn't get him into scent trials, this dog's nose is so good he sniffed out a rat from over 50 feet away who was hiding, does the same for possums and outside cats (we don't let him chase them), he would have really made a good working dog.   

[Cassie]

My son rescued a husky/shepherd mix when he was 1 1/2 years old. He never destroyed a thing. A fast paced 1 hour walk a day worked great with some trips to the dog park.  Now we have him at 9 & either a 30 min walk or dog park will work great.  He can't do both anymore.  If we want to go for an hour it can't be hot. I didn't realize these breeds could be destructive.  He is a sweet heart of a dog but when an off leash pit charged me my big old guy took total care of me.  I was surprised at how vicious he got.  He got bit numerous times & had to sleep for the next 2 days but he went from being on his back with the pit on his throat to throwing the pit in the air & getting on his throat.

[jba302]

We adoped a mix-breed dog (looks like a hound dog, and genetic test done years later came up as terrier, coonhound, German Shepard). He was pretty much out of control the first year we got him (he was about a year old). Took him for walks 2-3 times a day. But he was constantly barking, would jump or tunnel under our 6 foot fence and run away, also in the evening would tear back and forth the length of our house barking and jumping on us. I was really ready to re-home him. I think it was the 2nd dog trainer we talked to said, you really need to be exercising him more. And we are like, we take him for walks multiple times a day. And she was like, no, I'm talking about an hour in the morning, an hour in the evening, walks are not going to cut it. Also suggested other activities he could do. But we didn't follow advice so we put up with a crazy dog for a couple more years until we did work it in more. My one regret is that we didn't get him into scent trials, this dog's nose is so good he sniffed out a rat from over 50 feet away who was hiding, does the same for possums and outside cats (we don't let him chase them), he would have really made a good working dog.   

I rescued a lab that was like this. There are some dogs that walking is exercise (like my old beagles who would lay down and require getting carried after just over a mile), and some dogs where no amount of walking would work. My lab was the latter. I did 30 minutes in the morning and over an hour in the evening at a pace that I had trouble keeping up and she would still need to have some ball throwing time. I started taking her to a very large playground and put her off leash, she would put down a couple miles worth of sprints in short time. Hill sprints, hide and sneak, fetch drills. 45 minutes a day and there were 0 issues. I ended up re-homing her to a lady that owned a farm and said she (the dog) would do a running check of the entire property every day without fail, on top of jogging with her (the lady) daily. Some dogs just need a LOT more than a person can keep up with.

[partgypsy]

I hated this dog when we first got him, he was so crazy. But now he's around 7, 8 years old, and everyone says what a good dog he is. He is friendly with all other dogs, never initiates anything. But there was a couple times a dog went after him, he will defend himself and not back down. He is really good with our 2 kids, so much so if I pick up up my youngest daughter he will bark at me. Though he does want to chase outside cats he understands not to mess with our family cat. He has turned into a really good family dog (though I could do with less barking). We are from NC, and a couple people have thought he might be plotthound, but he has medium-length hair on his back, he is definitely not a full breed anything.

[Unique User]

CW was telling me about the new online services she has been using lately since she feels she has no time.  The first one is for meals.  So you get a recipe and everything you need to make the meal shipped to you for $12 a person.  She is getting three meals a week for 4 people.  My mouth hung open while I did the math and then completely lost track when she started telling me about a online personal stylist service that she is also using. 

[commodore perry]

No one cares about your dogs. This is overheard at work thread...

[dragoncar]

No one cares about your dogs. This is overheard at work thread...

I work at the pound, you insensitive Clod!

[nikki]

Coworker spent around $300 on chocolates over vacation. He gave some as gifts, put a tin in the office (I ate two!), and of course kept some for himself. That's REALLY generous, and also strikes me as a bit too much.

Maybe I'm just too much of a stingy grouch to react to that information with gratitude. But, you know, I did eat two. And they were yum.

[RetiredAt63]

This thread derails all the time - chill.

No one cares about your dogs. This is overheard at work thread...

[I'm a red panda]

No one cares about your dogs. This is overheard at work thread...

My work lets you bring your dog with you if it is small and well behaved.  So no huskies.

[Roadhog]

CW was telling me about the new online services she has been using lately since she feels she has no time.  The first one is for meals.  So you get a recipe and everything you need to make the meal shipped to you for $12 a person.  She is getting three meals a week for 4 people.  My mouth hung open while I did the math and then completely lost track when she started telling me about a online personal stylist service that she is also using.

I have a co-worker who could be the same person.  In addition, this person has been struggling with a huge underwater mortgage....and takes expensive tropical vacations.  Makes my head explode.

[rocksinmyhead]

No one cares about your dogs. This is overheard at work thread...

My work lets you bring your dog with you if it is small and well behaved.  So no huskies.

ugh I want a job like this!! I don't know if our smaller dog would be considered small enough though, she's like 30 pounds.

my mom works for a sportsmen's conservation group and people are allowed to bring their dogs in, they're all hunting dogs, like German shorthair pointers and stuff. so cool and I am so jealous!!!

[PencilThinStash]

No one cares about your dogs. This is overheard at work thread...

My work lets you bring your dog with you if it is small and well behaved.  So no huskies.

Half my reason for wanting to start my own company is so that I can bring a Great Dane into the office every day.

[Rural]

No one cares about your dogs. This is overheard at work thread...

My work lets you bring your dog with you if it is small and well behaved.  So no huskies.

Half my reason for wanting to start my own company is so that I can bring a Great Dane into the office every day.

My big boy would pee on himself (and thus, my office floor) in fear. He's rather used to his accustomed environment ...


Our little girl (all 150 pounds of her) would not be afraid, but she'd have to Meet. All. The. New. Friends. Right. NOW. and she'd surely knock some people over in her greetings.


...unless either of them perceived or mispercieved a threat to me. That could get ugly fast.


So, Danes in home office, yep. Danes in office office, not so much.

[I'm a red panda]

ugh I want a job like this!! I don't know if our smaller dog would be considered small enough though, she's like 30 pounds.

Mines 35# and she comes with me on days I have to take her to the vet (which is next door, so it saves a trip home and back).

I think if they can comfortably sit under you desk, it's cool.

[dragoncar]

What do all you people with dogs do when you travel?  I'd love to get a small-medium dog (preferably something allowed in most apartments) when I have enough time to take care of it properly (ie retirement), but I'm worried it will hamper my freedom to travel. Is it easy to take them to other countries?  I'd guess no

[GuitarStv]

What do all you people with dogs do when you travel?  I'd love to get a small-medium dog (preferably something allowed in most apartments) when I have enough time to take care of it properly (ie retirement), but I'm worried it will hamper my freedom to travel. Is it easy to take them to other countries?  I'd guess no

Many airlines will let you carry dogs on board if they're in a carrying case.  My mom does this all the time flying from Canada to Florida.  She has a 3 lb Yorkshire Terrier though, it's pretty damned small and portable.

[PencilThinStash]

No one cares about your dogs. This is overheard at work thread...

My work lets you bring your dog with you if it is small and well behaved.  So no huskies.

Half my reason for wanting to start my own company is so that I can bring a Great Dane into the office every day.

My big boy would pee on himself (and thus, my office floor) in fear. He's rather used to his accustomed environment ...


Our little girl (all 150 pounds of her) would not be afraid, but she'd have to Meet. All. The. New. Friends. Right. NOW. and she'd surely knock some people over in her greetings.


...unless either of them perceived or mispercieved a threat to me. That could get ugly fast.


So, Danes in home office, yep. Danes in office office, not so much.

Valid points. And I suppose there are enough people who are scared of big dogs, that could also become an issue...

Sidenote: You're my hero for owning a pair of Danes. I've wanted a pair for years, but the timing and living/work situations have never been right. If my boss told me this afternoon that I didn't have to travel anymore... I'd be signing up to foster one tonight, and local breeder research would start tomorrow.

[I'm a red panda]

What do all you people with dogs do when you travel?  I'd love to get a small-medium dog (preferably something allowed in most apartments) when I have enough time to take care of it properly (ie retirement), but I'm worried it will hamper my freedom to travel. Is it easy to take them to other countries?  I'd guess no

Other countries- no. There is almost always going to be a quarantine period.

We either board the dog (it's $25 a day, and I feel so guilty because she was a shelter dog and I worry she thinks we are surrendering her to them), have a neighbor kid take care of her ($10 a day), arrange trade weeks with a neighbor (we take their dog for their week of vacation, they take ours for a week- no cost), or take her with us (if we are driving).

Having a pet definitely means sacrifice when traveling though, you have to arrange around them.

[Ashyukun]

We either board the dog (it's $25 a day, and I feel so guilty because she was a shelter dog and I worry she thinks we are surrendering her to them), have a neighbor kid take care of her ($10 a day), arrange trade weeks with a neighbor (we take their dog for their week of vacation, they take ours for a week- no cost), or take her with us (if we are driving).

Having a pet definitely means sacrifice when traveling though, you have to arrange around them.

We're going on vacation next week and can't bring along our dog. A local place has had advertising about their boarding services and how much better they are than the place we've usually boarded him, so the wife decided she wanted to go and tour this place and see what she thought.

BIG mistake. She walked out of the place miserable and horrified that the place we had been boarding the dog (she had him for several years before we got married) was similar- she thought that it looked far too much like a shelter/pound and was really worried about how miserable she figured our dog would be if he had to stay there for a week. (why yes, this dog DOES have some attachment issues, how could you guess? :P). Thankfully I was able to get my younger brother to come out and house/pet-sit for the time we'll be gone...

[I'm a red panda]

The place we have boarded at (3 times when we couldn't arrange something else- we used to live somewhere that we didn't know/trust out neighbors) does look like a pound. But I was very happy with the people there.  Our dog doesn't socialize well except with a small subset of dogs, so the first time, she was always put out in the yard to play with just the caretaker, and no dogs.  The second time, the caretaker brought her OWN dog from home so Elsa could play with him, since no dogs being boarded met the profile she does well with (only boy dogs smaller than her. She is terrified of bigger boys, and gets very aggressive with other girls).

I am glad we found a place that does care for the dogs, but I still feel awful about it. 

And we didn't get off scott- free the first time we left her with the neighbor, it ended up costing a lot more than boarding her. Again, I think she thought she was being abandoned and ended up having what the neighbor thought was seizures, $500 emergency vet bill better, when we got home, we found out the dog had been prescribed antacids.  So the second time we told the neighbor if she was acting weird, give her tums first, then go emergency vet route (which was fine- I'll pay pretty much anything for her).  But thankfully, I think Elsa is pretty secure that we are coming back for her now (keep in mind we had her for 6 years before this happened).  Possibly being left at the neighbor's was super hard because she could see our house, but not understand why we weren't coming to get her?  My dog is weird- but we can tell she has issues from her first owner.

[Megma]

My pup also gets to occasionally visit work! She usually just sleeps on top of my desk in front of my window (she is really small).

If you are planning on traveling a lot internationally for extended periods, I don't recommend dog ownership Dragoncar. I love my dog but man is she a pain when I want to go somewhere sometimes. If you are thinking you'll travel after you FIRE and that's at least 5+ years away, you could get a senior dog (ie already 9-10+ years old) from a rescue bc to put it bluntly, they most likely won't be around for too many more years.

Speaking from experience, it's not easy or cheap to move a dog overseas. Countries all have different regs so bouncing around would be nearly impossible and you can't always take trains or etc with them. Flying is getting more complicated and more expensive every year, as airlines keep raising the fees. I still sometimes fly domestically with my dog bc she can fly in-cabin, I would NEVER check my dog as a bag (which is allowed!!) because there have been many incidents of dogs dying(!!) when in the luggage compartment.

Boarding also has like a 1 week limit for me, it gets expensive quickly (25/day+) and I feel bad for my dog being alone, she gets sad, etc. The first time I boarded her, when I took her home she jumped on my bed, peed and then went in her kennel voluntarily and ignored me entirely for 3 days. It is better now but she still isn't thrilled with it, though sometimes mommy has to leave town for work and there's no choice :-(

[SantaFeSteve]

What do all you people with dogs do when you travel?  I'd love to get a small-medium dog (preferably something allowed in most apartments) when I have enough time to take care of it properly (ie retirement), but I'm worried it will hamper my freedom to travel. Is it easy to take them to other countries?  I'd guess no

Many airlines will let you carry dogs on board if they're in a carrying case.  My mom does this all the time flying from Canada to Florida.  She has a 3 lb Yorkshire Terrier though, it's pretty damned small and portable.

Our dog just LOVES my parents and so we sometimes leave him there, or for shorter trips we have a wonderful dog sitter that takes him into her home.  That, however, is the cost of a cheap hotel room every 24 hours ($45 a day).

[Malaysia41]

We're still talking about dogs?

 I wanna go back to laughing at people who say stupid shit at work.   

[Elliot]

It's hardly hurting anything.