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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4150 on: September 11, 2014, 07:11:49 PM »
I swear I never hear things to write in here.  But not this week:

CW#1, well this is just unfortunate.  Has a car he doesn't drive, so his insurance is the "non-driver" and his registration is "non-driver".  He bought a house and is moving, so had the car parked in the street instead of in the garage during the move.  Neighbor reported the car, it was towed and he had to pay 2 years of back registration, plus tow fee, $900 total.

CW#2 partied too hard, decided not to drive, gave the keys to the wrong person.  Accident, busted up car (airbags went off), driver got arrested, lots of money for getting the car out of impound, towed, fixed.  Not to mention the friend being charged with a felony.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4151 on: September 11, 2014, 07:19:03 PM »
On my way home this morning, I saw a bumper sticker that said, "Stop Spending, Save America."  Sure, okay... except it was on what I believe was a Ford F-350 truck.  Right.

This was probably referring to "gubmint" spending, except, of course, any benefits the driver is receiving.  Those were earned and well-deserved.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4152 on: September 11, 2014, 09:29:13 PM »
On my way home this morning, I saw a bumper sticker that said, "Stop Spending, Save America."  Sure, okay... except it was on what I believe was a Ford F-350 truck.  Right.

This was probably referring to "gubmint" spending, except, of course, any benefits the driver is receiving.  Those were earned and well-deserved.

Well, government spending is just as wasteful as the average American's spending, but that's a different story. ;-)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4153 on: September 12, 2014, 07:18:21 AM »
On my way home this morning, I saw a bumper sticker that said, "Stop Spending, Save America."  Sure, okay... except it was on what I believe was a Ford F-350 truck.  Right.

This was probably referring to "gubmint" spending, except, of course, any benefits the driver is receiving.  Those were earned and well-deserved.

Well, government spending is just as wasteful as the average American's spending, but that's a different story. ;-)

I disagree.  People, in theory, work (provide a needed product or service) to earn money.  The government TAKES money from people, sends it through a 14 layer bureaucratic turdfest and then spends it.  Government spending is always a net loss on society and inherently more wasteful. 

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« Reply #4154 on: September 12, 2014, 08:52:39 AM »
On my way home this morning, I saw a bumper sticker that said, "Stop Spending, Save America."  Sure, okay... except it was on what I believe was a Ford F-350 truck.  Right.

This was probably referring to "gubmint" spending, except, of course, any benefits the driver is receiving.  Those were earned and well-deserved.

Well, government spending is just as wasteful as the average American's spending, but that's a different story. ;-)

I disagree.  People, in theory, work (provide a needed product or service) to earn money.  The government TAKES money from people, sends it through a 14 layer bureaucratic turdfest and then spends it.  Government spending is always a net loss on society and inherently more wasteful. 

Always a net loss?  Really?  Does that include municipal water and sewer service, police and fire protection, and public libraries?  Do you use any of those?  How much would it cost you to provide those services for yourself?  Priced digging a well and installing a septic system lately?

I live in a major metropolitan area where some residents receive water service from the local government and some receive service from private water companies.  The residents receiving their water from the private sector pay much more for service and have experienced at least one outbreak of water-borne illness, including one fatality.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4155 on: September 12, 2014, 09:33:06 AM »
On my way home this morning, I saw a bumper sticker that said, "Stop Spending, Save America."  Sure, okay... except it was on what I believe was a Ford F-350 truck.  Right.

This was probably referring to "gubmint" spending, except, of course, any benefits the driver is receiving.  Those were earned and well-deserved.

Well, government spending is just as wasteful as the average American's spending, but that's a different story. ;-)

I disagree.  People, in theory, work (provide a needed product or service) to earn money.  The government TAKES money from people, sends it through a 14 layer bureaucratic turdfest and then spends it.  Government spending is always a net loss on society and inherently more wasteful. 

Always a net loss?  Really?  Does that include municipal water and sewer service, police and fire protection, and public libraries?  Do you use any of those?  How much would it cost you to provide those services for yourself?  Priced digging a well and installing a septic system lately?

I live in a major metropolitan area where some residents receive water service from the local government and some receive service from private water companies.  The residents receiving their water from the private sector pay much more for service and have experienced at least one outbreak of water-borne illness, including one fatality.

Yep. Always a net loss.  Not saying that there isn't things that the government should waste spend money on.  Just saying that it's always a net loss. 

Why do you suppose it's cheaper to buy water from the city? 

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« Reply #4156 on: September 12, 2014, 09:45:11 AM »
My coworkers were talking about the benefit of selling back vacation days you bought at the beginning of the year. I thought the benefit was being more flexible with your time throughout the year with small downside.

They were thinking it was great because you could use that returned money at the end of the year to buy presents for Christmas. That's the oddest saving habit I've witnessed, why not just keep it from the beginning to invest, or budget it in?

We have a difference in thinking - money for time vs. money for things.

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« Reply #4157 on: September 12, 2014, 09:50:14 AM »

Yep. Always a net loss.  Not saying that there isn't things that the government should waste spend money on.  Just saying that it's always a net loss. 

Why do you suppose it's cheaper to buy water from the city? 


The city doesn't have stockholders demanding profit growth and dividends and doesn't have executives requiring multi-million dollar salaries and bonuses.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4158 on: September 12, 2014, 09:58:40 AM »

Yep. Always a net loss. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_multiplier

The way government influences the economy, their ability to produce more money (part of inflation) - macro-economics is quite complicated, hence all the debate on the matter. Too complex for anyone to have figured some magic formula. Suffice it to say, slashing all government spending and going private on everything would be extremely ill-advised. Government spending is an incredibly useful tool the effects of which are both easy to quantify and complex to understand, and is not necessarily inherently wasteful.

Hell, it's even up for debate whether it is even important that the spending be "efficiently" employed, depending on who is defining what would be an efficient outcome. More tax revenue back? More services for your money? ???

The more you know, the less you feel like you understand it. And I really know quite little, so maybe somebody with a real knowledge base can chime in and correct me.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4159 on: September 12, 2014, 10:06:49 AM »
My coworkers were talking about the benefit of selling back vacation days you bought at the beginning of the year. I thought the benefit was being more flexible with your time throughout the year with small downside.

They were thinking it was great because you could use that returned money at the end of the year to buy presents for Christmas. That's the oddest saving habit I've witnessed, why not just keep it from the beginning to invest, or budget it in?

We have a difference in thinking - money for time vs. money for things.
I see this too. They leave it in their bank earning zero interest and then cash it to buy stuff. There's a 10% penalty for converting to cash plus it is taxed at the highest rate so my CWs end up with about half the value.  Not to mention that if they are termed for cause then it's all forfeited. Vacation banks are a horrible savings plan.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4160 on: September 12, 2014, 10:44:49 AM »
On my way home this morning, I saw a bumper sticker that said, "Stop Spending, Save America."  Sure, okay... except it was on what I believe was a Ford F-350 truck.  Right.

This was probably referring to "gubmint" spending, except, of course, any benefits the driver is receiving.  Those were earned and well-deserved.

Well, government spending is just as wasteful as the average American's spending, but that's a different story. ;-)

I disagree.  People, in theory, work (provide a needed product or service) to earn money.  The government TAKES money from people, sends it through a 14 layer bureaucratic turdfest and then spends it.  Government spending is always a net loss on society and inherently more wasteful. 

Always a net loss?  Really?  Does that include municipal water and sewer service, police and fire protection, and public libraries?  Do you use any of those?  How much would it cost you to provide those services for yourself?  Priced digging a well and installing a septic system lately?

I live in a major metropolitan area where some residents receive water service from the local government and some receive service from private water companies.  The residents receiving their water from the private sector pay much more for service and have experienced at least one outbreak of water-borne illness, including one fatality.

Yep. Always a net loss.  Not saying that there isn't things that the government should waste spend money on.  Just saying that it's always a net loss. 

Why do you suppose it's cheaper to buy water from the city?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4161 on: September 12, 2014, 10:46:33 AM »

Yep. Always a net loss.  Not saying that there isn't things that the government should waste spend money on.  Just saying that it's always a net loss. 

Why do you suppose it's cheaper to buy water from the city? 


The city doesn't have stockholders demanding profit growth and dividends and doesn't have executives requiring multi-million dollar salaries and bonuses.

Hence the reason government agencies are run with extraordinary levels of inefficiency, zero profit motive.   Do you think that at the end of the year the water providers operating statement shows a net income or a net loss? 

Could it also be that they aren't profitable? Or that they are even losing money ever year?  Subsidized by the rest of the taxpayers with money from the general fund? 


Yep. Always a net loss. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_multiplier

The way government influences the economy, their ability to produce more money (part of inflation) - macro-economics is quite complicated, hence all the debate on the matter. Too complex for anyone to have figured some magic formula. Suffice it to say, slashing all government spending and going private on everything would be extremely ill-advised. Government spending is an incredibly useful tool the effects of which are both easy to quantify and complex to understand, and is not necessarily inherently wasteful.

Hell, it's even up for debate whether it is even important that the spending be "efficiently" employed, depending on who is defining what would be an efficient outcome. More tax revenue back? More services for your money? ???

The more you know, the less you feel like you understand it. And I really know quite little, so maybe somebody with a real knowledge base can chime in and correct me.

I'd never advise cutting all government spending because some of it is useful.  It doesn't change the fact that it's always a net loss on the economy.  They take money out of the economy (taxes) and then after a bunch of wasteful levels of bureaucracy they put a small portion back in to the economy.  Or they print money, causing inflation and the loss of value to the people holding the rest of the dollars.  That's obviously oversimplified and there are cases (like water/sewer) where the benefit to some is positive. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4162 on: September 12, 2014, 10:51:18 AM »
Our city's utility runs a profit every year, I believe at least into the tens of millions of dollars range - and transfers it to the general fund.  Kind of a stealth-tax (in addition to the actual taxes they charge on the utility bill).  Posting this to add fuel to the fire, mostly.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4163 on: September 12, 2014, 02:36:28 PM »
Municipal water systems are definitely a waste of money. It's much cheaper for me to piss in a bucket and dump it on my neighbor's property. I don't understand why everyone doesn't do it.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4164 on: September 12, 2014, 02:37:47 PM »
I disagree.  People, in theory, work (provide a needed product or service) to earn money.  The government TAKES money from people, sends it through a 14 layer bureaucratic turdfest and then spends it.  Government spending is always a net loss on society and inherently more wasteful.
So its better to put it through a 14-layer private bureaucratic turdfest with additional expenses for impressive buildings, top-salaries and dividend payout?  ;)

Please show me one institution, where the same people under the same rules are working better just because its a private company and not a state one. I never was told by worker that they are more motivated because a part of their work is given away to shareholders and millionaire-income bosses (or that it is cheaper to do that then not doing that).

Mostly the difference is based on the simple fact, that private corporations a) employ less people (that have to do the same amount of work) and b) pay them less and (often) have lower standards.
In my town a deficit-running hospital was privatized a year ago. I think 15% of people were fired. Now the nurses really run and not just walk fast. It may be the hospital runs a profit now, but I preferred the older model. Then probably my father wouldnt have nearly brought into OP that was for another person because of a nurses error.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4165 on: September 12, 2014, 03:32:55 PM »
Please don't do this. I like this thread.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4166 on: September 12, 2014, 03:34:43 PM »
Please don't do this. I like this thread.
+1.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4167 on: September 12, 2014, 03:40:12 PM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4168 on: September 12, 2014, 04:59:32 PM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

This is hard to even believe. The longer she talks the worse it gets!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4169 on: September 12, 2014, 07:14:37 PM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid
ouch

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4170 on: September 12, 2014, 07:22:55 PM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

This is hard to even believe. The longer she talks the worse it gets!

I hear this from Silicon Valley workers all the time. They want to "buy the dream" of a huge house, and are willing to sell their lives (and pocketbooks) on a huge commute from a place where such a house is actually purchasable. It's nonsensical.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4171 on: September 12, 2014, 08:13:31 PM »
Here's another one from my workplace.  A couple years ago we hired a young 20s IT guy.  He bought a new Ford SUV when he started (or just before).  A year later he traded it in for a NEW F150 with all the bells and whistles.  At the time he said something about how he can make dumb financial decisions now when he's young.

In the last month he traded that in and got a late model BMW (I don't think it's "new", but within the last 3 years).  Today a few of us went out to lunch for a co-worker's birthday.  He wanted to drive, naturally, and sent directions from his phone to his navigation system in the car.  Another co-worker and I rode together and although we were passed by the other cars, we still arrived first.  The BMW owner mumbled something about how he needs to get the maps updated or something when he finally arrived 5-10 minutes later.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4172 on: September 12, 2014, 08:20:24 PM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

This is hard to even believe. The longer she talks the worse it gets!

I hear this from Silicon Valley workers all the time. They want to "buy the dream" of a huge house, and are willing to sell their lives (and pocketbooks) on a huge commute from a place where such a house is actually purchasable. It's nonsensical.

I can emotionally get this.   I used to live in a very high COL area.   Houses were very close to unaffordable there for us, even though we had high salaries.   I was in my late 20s, and renting, and looking at friends and family and people on tv in their homes, and it was hard not to feel like I wasn't a real adult until we owned.   Plus, I really like home projects and decorating, and stability (esp with kids), and felt like I needed to own (and own a bigger home with many different rooms for different activities).    And anything affordable close to work would have been a dump, and probably what I would have felt like was too small, and it *still* would have a huge mortgage, which would have gnawed at me.

Luckily, we knew we wanted to move to a lower COL area, so we were able to resist buying (good thing too, would have had to sell right when the market was crashing).   And then we did move to our lower COL and I was in heaven looking at largish (2000 sq ft), with land, in good conditions at affordable prices.   And we bought right away and worked on making things perfect.

And, only after owning what I had long dreamed of, do I see how it's really not that great or important.   We don't need that much room, and I'm not more of an adult, and diy stuff and yard work is a PITA.  So, we'll probably be down-sizing, and I might even consider a condo.....

...but, if we were still living in our old area, I probably would have broken down and gotten a house that was not a dump, that was not tiny, and had a long commute to do it.   And even if I realized later that it was a bad idea, without MMM I don't know if I would have had enough courage to sell it and down-size.   Who wants to give up the big sign that they have made it after all ;)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4173 on: September 12, 2014, 10:31:56 PM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

This is hard to even believe. The longer she talks the worse it gets!

I hear this from Silicon Valley workers all the time. They want to "buy the dream" of a huge house, and are willing to sell their lives (and pocketbooks) on a huge commute from a place where such a house is actually purchasable. It's nonsensical.

Yep, that is what they are doing - moving even farther from Seattle to get a bigger house. She was going on about how the house was 600 sq feet bigger. I asked her why she needed the extra space, since their only child JUST moved out of the house (like last week, we gossip alot...) She couldn't really answer it, and evaded by talking about how much nicer the nice is and how the payment will be so much less than current house. *facepalm*

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4174 on: September 14, 2014, 08:18:42 AM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

What a fucking moron.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4175 on: September 14, 2014, 08:46:21 AM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

What a fucking moron.

Well she makes a good point... she does own a hybrid. ;)

My commute is 45 to an hour each way now but it's only for 7 weeks. My last job was a quick 20-30 minute. It's impossible to be where I can bike to work as my work location changes every two months - but at least I live a quick 20 minute drive from where most of my jobs are. Especially when I can use the carpool lane since I have an Nissan Leaf.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4176 on: September 14, 2014, 08:13:49 PM »
At the time he said something about how he can make dumb financial decisions now when he's .

I have heard this sentiment a lot lately.  Two of my sins graduated from college this year and repeatedly I heard their friends or friends parents explaining taking a huge overseas vacation or buying a high end car by saying " you gotta do these things while your young".   Really?  While nt even having started to pay off those student loans you go to Europe for a month or buy the BMW because you have to do those things while young?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4177 on: September 14, 2014, 09:06:36 PM »
I didn't overhear this at work (because I don't have a job), but I read this link title on the Dollar Stretcher newsletter:
"Finding A New Car Loan While In Bankruptcy"
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/auto/car-loan-in-bankruptcy.aspx
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Dear Dr. Don,
Where can I get a car loan for a new vehicle while in bankruptcy?  My trustee has advised me to look for a vehicle and I have done that.  But the dealers won't work with lenders in my case and they all want a cashier's check or cash.  So do you have a name of a lender that would be willing to finance me?

The columnist gently pointed out that a new car is a bad idea when you're in bankruptcy...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4178 on: September 15, 2014, 06:54:30 AM »
Two of my sins graduated from college this year

I see what you did there.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4179 on: September 15, 2014, 08:52:43 AM »
Two of my sins graduated from college this year

I see what you did there.

Did it twice, apparently.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4180 on: September 15, 2014, 10:44:53 AM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

This is hard to even believe. The longer she talks the worse it gets!

I hear this from Silicon Valley workers all the time. They want to "buy the dream" of a huge house, and are willing to sell their lives (and pocketbooks) on a huge commute from a place where such a house is actually purchasable. It's nonsensical.

Yep, I have co-workers who live in Tracy and commute to Redwood City. 75 miles and 2.5 hours or longer each way!  I work from home.  My commute is 15 feet in slippers.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4181 on: September 15, 2014, 10:56:22 AM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

This is hard to even believe. The longer she talks the worse it gets!

I hear this from Silicon Valley workers all the time. They want to "buy the dream" of a huge house, and are willing to sell their lives (and pocketbooks) on a huge commute from a place where such a house is actually purchasable. It's nonsensical.

Yep, I have co-workers who live in Tracy and commute to Redwood City. 75 miles and 2.5 hours or longer each way!  I work from home.  My commute is 15 feet in slippers.

Wait, so they have the option to work from home and choose not to?

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« Reply #4182 on: September 15, 2014, 11:16:29 AM »
Here is a heard at work:

Co-worker K was complaining about the traffic and stated it took her 2 hours to get to work the other morning because there was so much traffic. I commiserated, but said that is why I like riding my bike.

Later today she was gone for a few hours. Comes back, said she and her husband were looking at houses.

K: We're going to be moving!
Me: Congratulations! How much shorter will your commute be?
K: Oh, it will be longer. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town]. It will probably add 40 min to my commute.
Me and CW J: O.o
J: I couldn't stand to be in the car for an hour and a half a day (obviously referring to her entire round-trip commute of 40+40 min)
K: Oh, no, it will be more like 3 hours. It already takes me over an hour on a good day.
Me: OMG!
J: [sound of disbelief]
K: Oh, it's not that bad. I have a hybrid

This is hard to even believe. The longer she talks the worse it gets!

I hear this from Silicon Valley workers all the time. They want to "buy the dream" of a huge house, and are willing to sell their lives (and pocketbooks) on a huge commute from a place where such a house is actually purchasable. It's nonsensical.

Yep, I have co-workers who live in Tracy and commute to Redwood City. 75 miles and 2.5 hours or longer each way!  I work from home.  My commute is 15 feet in slippers.

Wait, so they have the option to work from home and choose not to?
It depends on the role and your attitude.  We have a pretty flexible workplace and a highly distributed workforce.  If you want to be noticed and advance your career it is better to work in the office.  Some managers can get pretty insistent and some jobs cannot be done from home.  I had one manager who quit because she wanted everyone on her team to work in the same office.

I have been told several times that it would be better for my career to move back to California.  No way!  My mental and emotional happiness is much more important to me than being a rat in a maze just to make more money.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4183 on: September 15, 2014, 12:54:11 PM »
"Guess who just ordered a new iPhone 6?" followed by cheers from coworkers.  This is the one who bought a house for 5% down, is paying PMI, but is *positive* the real estate market will go up, so PMI isn't a big dea

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« Reply #4184 on: September 15, 2014, 04:08:48 PM »
Relatively frugal co-worker has a friend who is "definitely" buying an Apple Watch. Apparently he wants it for "exercise". It doesn't make sense to either of us. $350 for a first generation device that will most likely do less than one of the countless other wearable exercise devices out there? But it's an Apple device...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4185 on: September 16, 2014, 12:14:39 AM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].
I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4186 on: September 16, 2014, 07:00:16 AM »
I live in a different town. Not mustachian but unbelievable not at all. I basically have a vacation home on a lake as my primary residence. Its 15 miles from where I work. I have a wakeboarding hobby and made it as affordable as possible. Used boats under valued cheapest lake to live on in my area.  I probably spend less wakeboarding than most do golfing.

But back to point living hours away to me seems insane. But in a different city. Not a big deal.

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« Reply #4187 on: September 16, 2014, 09:19:51 AM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].

I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!

Depends a bit on the town. There are some areas where it's hard to tell where one begins and the other ends. For example, you could live in Beaverton and work in Portland (Oregon) and your commute could easily be under 10 miles (20-25 minutes).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4188 on: September 16, 2014, 09:23:44 AM »
Coworker: Nothing in life worth having is cheap!
Me: That's not true!
Coworker: NAME ONE THING!
Me: Ummm...love?
Coworker: LOVE ISN'T CHEAP.

Then everyone laughed. I've been married for years. It's been pretty cheap for me.

Great now Huey Lewis will be suck in my head all day.

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« Reply #4189 on: September 16, 2014, 09:25:12 AM »
This is true! My commute by bike is 5.8 miles, and goes out of my town, through another, and then back into my town.. if I take the car (6 miles) it passes through two different other towns before coming back to the town I live in.

I suspect that towns near large US cities are smaller and more oddly shaped than most Australian towns.

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« Reply #4190 on: September 16, 2014, 09:36:13 AM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].
I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!

I am one of the very few in my office that actually lives in the city of Richmond.  Most live in the two suburban counties that wrap around the city, but there are some who choose to live over an hour away one way so they can have "country homes."  Oy.

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« Reply #4191 on: September 16, 2014, 09:48:35 AM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].
I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!
I lived in a different STATE than the one I worked in.  Crossed several city limits and a state line on my 14 mile, 30 minute commute. 

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« Reply #4192 on: September 16, 2014, 10:03:26 AM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].
I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!
I lived in a different STATE than the one I worked in.  Crossed several city limits and a state line on my 14 mile, 30 minute commute.

In the Detroit area it's not uncommon for people to live in a different city, state and COUNTRY.  How people are willing to deal with an international border crossing everyday is beyond me. 

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« Reply #4193 on: September 16, 2014, 10:11:59 AM »
"Guess who just ordered a new iPhone 6?" followed by cheers from coworkers.  This is the one who bought a house for 5% down, is paying PMI, but is *positive* the real estate market will go up, so PMI isn't a big dea

Jeez. I hate the fact that we're paying PMI but we are paying about an extra $500-1000 per month to get out of the range. I also want to pay off the mortgage in under 10 years, so the PMI really isn't that big of a deal. And I don't have an iPhone 6... So thanks for making me feel better!

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« Reply #4194 on: September 16, 2014, 10:13:20 AM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].
I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!
I don't think this is all that unbelievable, particularly in large sprawling suburban areas where towns just meld together. My commute (when I do go into the office, which is rare) is only a few miles. So is my husband's. There are actually a lot of valid circumstances where it might not be the best choice to live closer to work, such as a household with two working spouses who travel in different directions. I do think what the OP's coworker said is crazy though.

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« Reply #4195 on: September 16, 2014, 10:17:55 AM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].
I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!
I lived in a different STATE than the one I worked in.  Crossed several city limits and a state line on my 14 mile, 30 minute commute.

In the Detroit area it's not uncommon for people to live in a different city, state and COUNTRY.  How people are willing to deal with an international border crossing everyday is beyond me.

Yeah that always blew my mind.  I hate dealing with the border.  I can't imagine doing it twice every day.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4196 on: September 16, 2014, 11:22:49 AM »
I have a coworker who wants to own a shop and be a racing mechanic someday (he has worked on traveling race teams).  I am in management on our farm and know how much he makes, and it's fairly typical for a guy a few years out of high school with no further certificates working full time for those years.  So basically, not much.  He always talks about how he's going to have a shop, but at other times says that he has an extra $xxx in his bank account, so he's started looking at four wheelers.  And gets breakfast at Sheetz every morning, then goes for fast food for lunch several times a week.  I mentioned that it would be cheaper to eat at home and then he could save for that shop.  He informed me he's on his way b/c he used a 50% off coupon for some tools brand that's really good, so he "bought $12,000 worth of tools for only $6,000!" I was surprised that he had managed to save money, but then: "And the payments will be pretty easy to make!"  I didn't ask further, but I'm betting by the time he's done paying for them he'll pay close to $12,000. Oh my.

Also, I technically live in a different town (zip code) than where I commute to work, and it's a 2 minute drive in my company-bought work truck.  In fact, I live on the farm, but that side of it sits in a different "town".  I'm just glad we don't cross county lines like our neighbor does.  That would be a headache.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4197 on: September 16, 2014, 11:23:48 AM »
This is true! My commute by bike is 5.8 miles, and goes out of my town, through another, and then back into my town.. if I take the car (6 miles) it passes through two different other towns before coming back to the town I live in.

I suspect that towns near large US cities are smaller and more oddly shaped than most Australian towns.
Ever heard of the term gerrymandering?
Thats what I think of when I hear the words "USA" and "odd shape" in one sentence ;)
Here are 3 WTF examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:California%27s_23rd_congressional_district.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina%27s_12th_congressional_district
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27s_4th_congressional_district




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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4198 on: September 16, 2014, 11:29:20 AM »
I have a co-worker that just had his first child.  He had an extended cab Tacoma.  One day he mentioned that the Tacoma was not cutting with the baby and needed supplies it so he was thinking about a Suburban.  He then asked me if I knew what type of milage they got.  I said "about 15".  He replied with "Cool, I thought they only got 10 or so".  The next week, he shows up with a Tahoe, I guess the Suburban was just a little too much for him;)  Later on, I asked how long his commute was (probably 20-25 miles one way).  He replied that he didn't know. 

Another former coworker bought a 4-runner.  I asked him what type of milage it got.  He said he didn't know and it didn't matter, because that's what he wanted.

Both of these fellows have IQs north of 130 and work in finance.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4199 on: September 16, 2014, 11:44:24 AM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].
I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!
I lived in a different STATE than the one I worked in.  Crossed several city limits and a state line on my 14 mile, 30 minute commute.

Easterners! Out in the west that would be much harder...