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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15150 on: September 27, 2016, 06:59:58 AM »
At least he didn't cosign the loan, so he's not 100% responsible for paying it.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15151 on: September 27, 2016, 08:40:24 AM »
Ha, no, thats a double.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15152 on: September 27, 2016, 08:45:07 AM »
You guys are cracking me up!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15153 on: September 27, 2016, 09:44:32 AM »
You guys are cracking me up!
Just wait till we crack out the Triple, Quadruple, and Mega Facepalm pictures...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15154 on: September 27, 2016, 10:54:38 AM »
It's amusing to me how many folks here are so proud of their judging other folks based on their external appearances.

It reminds me of the "why can't I find any frugal person to date?" thread elsewhere. Maybe everyone has written off all the Mustachians as consumeristic because they have lots of computers/bikes :P

This entire subforum's premise is judging people, so what do you really expect? :P

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15155 on: September 27, 2016, 01:01:43 PM »
$1200/month is over half of MMM's budget!
It's no wonder the general population is convinced that (early) retirement is damn near impossible...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15156 on: September 27, 2016, 01:24:04 PM »
You guys are cracking me up!
Just wait till we crack out the Triple, Quadruple, and Mega Facepalm pictures...

Or the third-party facepalm, which is pretty much the point of the whole thread (at least when it's not about how sweaty the sheets on your kitchen table are because of the black box).


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15157 on: September 27, 2016, 10:02:57 PM »
Regarding a 100 year flood zone and a 30 year mortgage, the odds of the house flooding while being owned by the bank is 30%. I know it's obvious when it's spelled out, but most people don't put two and two together. They only are unhappy when the lender requires them to purchase flood insurance.

It doesn't quite work out like that.  If you own a house for 100 years you don't have 100% chance of it flooding.  Just like if you roll a die once, you have a 1/6 chance of rolling a 6, but two rolls doesn't equal 2/6 odds, or else 6 rolls would be 6/6 (100%) chance of rolling a 6.

You're right, but if the flood has a 1/100 chance of happening in any given year and you have the place under mortgage for 30 years the likelyhood of not having a flood would be ~.739 =  .9930 so there would still be a .261 probability of having a 100 year flood in a group of 30 years. So the bank would still have over a 25% chance of needing that insurance to kick in.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15158 on: September 28, 2016, 06:04:48 PM »
At least he didn't cosign the loan, so he's not 100% responsible for paying it.

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Lulz for realz.

WTF is wrong with people?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15159 on: September 28, 2016, 06:14:19 PM »
[quote author=dragoncar link=topic=2540.msgWas talking to nurse about healthy eating and a low carb diet because she was having avacado, eggs and bacon for lunch .

Turns out she cooks healthy every night for the whole family (she is also an ex personal trainer) but her husband only likes takewaway indian food and has it about 4 times a week.

He spends around 300 pounds a month on unhealthy takeways just for himself even though there is homecooked food available every night.
1239659#msg1239659 date=1474662378]
Yeah you people do too much laundry.  Is this a learned trait?  Did you grow up in a household where it was common to do a load every day?

Hang your towel properly so t dries
Have sex on the kitchen table or shower

my kitchen table wont fit in my washer though
Was talking to nurse about healthy eating and a low carb diet because she was having avacado, eggs and bacon for lunch .

Turns out she cooks healthy every night for the whole family (she is also an ex personal trainer) but her husband only likes takewaway indian food and has it about 4 times a week.

He spends around 300 pounds a month on unhealthy takeways just for himself even though there is homecooked food available every night.


I bet these people clean their kitchen table every day too.  Disgusting waste of resources

Filthy wasteful people.  They probably clean the table after they bang on it too.  Ban them from the forum for their complete disregard for the planet!!!
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A true Mustachian mitigates the costs of cleaning up after sex by videotaping the action and charging per view.

Also, what's up with all these fancy fuckers who own tables!  What's the matter Richie Rich, too good to eat out of the pot on the floor?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15160 on: September 29, 2016, 07:30:09 AM »
My car didn't get the rear window defroster
Around here that would be a summer car.  In winter the rear window defroster is a necessity.

JC Whitney BABY! ;)

Once upon a time I remember seeing kits where you could add defroster lines to an existing rear window.

But yeah - up north this car would have never gotten off the dealer lot. Its a weird piece of equipment to leave off frankly. What did it save the car's manufacturer? $10? Were they that price sensitive? I have had some truly basic cars that still came with a rear window defroster. These cars did not have power windows or intermittent wipers but by golly they had a clear rear window on a frosty morning! ;)
« Last Edit: September 29, 2016, 07:38:01 AM by Joe Lucky »

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15161 on: September 29, 2016, 07:33:31 AM »
You guys are cracking me up!
Just wait till we crack out the Triple, Quadruple, and Mega Facepalm pictures...

Or the third-party facepalm, which is pretty much the point of the whole thread (at least when it's not about how sweaty the sheets on your kitchen table are because of the black box).



DUDE! Why does your hand smell like that???? On the other hand - don't tell me... Okay?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15162 on: September 29, 2016, 10:06:44 AM »
Yesterday I noticed that the top three lines on mine were much more effective than the rest of the defroster. Uh oh... I seem to recall a kit that let you fix a broken line but haven't even started to research yet. Right now I'm lying to myself and saying that the top 6" of the window were in the sun while the car was in the driveway, so that bit got a head start.

Sounds plausible, right?
That's definitely a thing.  It's a "pen" of sorts I believe.  I remember a friend of mine fixing a line on his Jeep a while back and he said it was pretty easy.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15163 on: September 29, 2016, 11:21:41 AM »
I recently saw this repair pen at an auto parts store. So yes, it exists. Locally and from any one of thousands of internet retailers. It amounts to a conductive paint. As always clean, clean, clean per the instructions before you attempt the repair. Let us know how it worked for you if you do this. I've had cars as old as the 60s and they had defroster grids. But not this late-90s Chevy! ;)

I like to think I see why GM got into trouble. Well, GM and the rest of the domestic brands.

They were kind of stingy off and on all through the 70s/80s/ and 90s. I remember 80s cars (different brands) where the radio was an non-present option but there was a working air conditioner. I had an AMC wagon once that did not have a back seat! It only had a plywood platform in place of the back seat. Clearly a former fleet car. Also drove alot of cars that amounted to four wheels and an engine and not much else. Plenty of hints that there were versions with all sorts of options but not on your car.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15164 on: September 29, 2016, 11:53:29 AM »
it will cost $1200/month for payments, parking, insurance and DIESEL to drive 38km each way to school.....!!!!!

Maybe I shoujld be content that my friend can math, and did not buy it as a family car that the son only uses....

Holy shit. $1200/month... My ENTIRE budget after taxes and saving are taken out is only $1400/month. For a RIDICULOUSLY comfortable life, completely independent of my parents.

At the point where any (hypothetical) kid of mine could pull together $1200/month to blow on a fucking truck, he'd no longer be welcome to live in my house.

I'm so blown away right now, all I can do is repeat: holy shit!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15165 on: September 29, 2016, 04:39:37 PM »
Seen over a work lunch at a fast service place:

Woman in scrubs and sneakers and a new pink Michael Khors (?sp?) bag.

It did NOT match the outfit, so why?????just why????

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15166 on: September 29, 2016, 05:07:17 PM »
Seen over a work lunch at a fast service place:

Woman in scrubs and sneakers and a new pink Michael Khors (?sp?) bag.

It did NOT match the outfit, so why?????just why????

Better than buying a bag just to match your scrubs.  I would do this.  Got a two year old Fossil that looks new and I wear it with everything even if it doesn't match.  Matching is for non-mustachians.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15167 on: September 29, 2016, 05:26:35 PM »

I like to think I see why GM got into trouble. Well, GM and the rest of the domestic brands.

They were kind of stingy off and on all through the 70s/80s/ and 90s. I remember 80s cars (different brands) where the radio was an non-present option but there was a working air conditioner. I had an AMC wagon once that did not have a back seat! It only had a plywood platform in place of the back seat. Clearly a former fleet car. Also drove alot of cars that amounted to four wheels and an engine and not much else. Plenty of hints that there were versions with all sorts of options but not on your car.

A Gremlin maybe? Back seats (among other things) were optional on early AMC Gremlins, allowing them to be marketed as "the lowest priced car in America!" Actually this practice was common at least thru the early 50's; such cars were called business coupes and apart from being price leaders were popular w/ salesmen and others who had more cause to carry stuff than people. Might not be a bad option for a lot of people today.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15168 on: September 29, 2016, 05:31:18 PM »
Okay, after months of covertly observing a coworker, I have enough material to share this.

About 9 months ago this guy, let's call him Mario, was transferred from another project onto my team. Now for this story to make sense you have to understand that there is a huge disparity in skill among employees at this company. While we are all developing software, some projects are real engineering who have wickedly smart people working on them, and some other are like janitorial maintenance of crappy applications. Mario's previous project was the latter.

After 6 months of my team, it becomes clear that he is a terrible software engineer. His skills after two years at this company still haven't reached what you could reasonably expect from a CompSci student doing a summer internship before his senior year. Either this either wasn't apparent previously because it wasn't needed in his previous project, or his manager swept it under the rug. Mario is also highly delusional and convinced that he is hot shit, despite the fact that we basically kicked him off our team to move him to another team within the same project where he could hopefully gain from a gentler learning curve doing less cutting edge stuff.

He is also a member of the local toastmasters chapter, which, upon further inspection and attendance of the after-mentioned session that I attended, is about as interesting and mentally stimulating as a trip to the DMV. Two months ago he made a presentation and invited us all to watch, where he basically bragged about being financially responsible and buying a home at "only" 26 years of age. Now to his credit, the idea is that he is getting roommates and basically living for free (not sure if that's actually panned out yet). Upon pressing for details, he revealed that he is doing the 3.5% percent down mortgage with high PMI... on a 120k house.

Today at lunch it was revealed that he has been put on a performance improvement plan a few weeks ago. He is convinced that they have an axe to grind against him, and totally doesn't realize that this means he's about to get fired (as he should). Instead, he went and purchased a $16,000 sports motorcycle. For those of you who know nothing about motorcycles, that is a ridiculously nice bike. He is paying over $500/month for payments and full coverage insurance, and doesn't know his interest rate.

When I not-so-subtly tried to warn him that performance improvement plans can mean firing, he dismissed it saying he would get unemployment insurance. Unemployment insurance caps out at about $1,300/month in this state.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15169 on: September 29, 2016, 06:05:35 PM »
Instead, he went and purchased a $16,000 sports motorcycle. For those of you who know nothing about motorcycles, that is a ridiculously nice bike.
Is it a Ducati?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15170 on: September 29, 2016, 06:11:26 PM »
Unemployment insurance caps out at about $1,300/month in this state.

Sounds like he can afford a second motorcycle, then!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15171 on: September 29, 2016, 06:17:30 PM »
Instead, he went and purchased a $16,000 sports motorcycle. For those of you who know nothing about motorcycles, that is a ridiculously nice bike.
Is it a Ducati?
It is. Mario has italian roots, so it made sense to go with Ducati, you see.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15172 on: September 29, 2016, 10:47:40 PM »
Seen over a work lunch at a fast service place:

Woman in scrubs and sneakers and a new pink Michael Khors (?sp?) bag.

It did NOT match the outfit, so why?????just why????

Because she's a doctor and that's her one really nice bag.  Since she spent the money on that, she doesn't see the point in having to spend more money to buy more purses just for the purpose of matching her outfit.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15173 on: September 29, 2016, 10:53:52 PM »
Now for this story to make sense you have to understand that there is a huge disparity in skill among employees at this company. While we are all developing software, some projects are real engineering who have wickedly smart people working on them, and some other are like janitorial maintenance of crappy applications. Mario's previous project was the former.

Do you mean the latter?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15174 on: September 30, 2016, 02:43:38 AM »
Now for this story to make sense you have to understand that there is a huge disparity in skill among employees at this company. While we are all developing software, some projects are real engineering who have wickedly smart people working on them, and some other are like janitorial maintenance of crappy applications. Mario's previous project was the former.

Do you mean the latter?

I believe OP meant former, but that he is very bad at the projects that require real engineering and he would be better suited for the janitorial computer work.

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« Reply #15175 on: September 30, 2016, 03:18:09 AM »
Oops, I meant the latter. Editing original post.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15176 on: September 30, 2016, 03:52:45 AM »
Oops, I meant the latter. Editing original post.

It's a good story!  Poor Mario.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15177 on: September 30, 2016, 08:39:47 AM »
Okay, after months of covertly observing a coworker, I have enough material to share this.

About 9 months ago this guy, let's call him Mario, was transferred from another project onto my team. Now for this story to make sense you have to understand that there is a huge disparity in skill among employees at this company. While we are all developing software, some projects are real engineering who have wickedly smart people working on them, and some other are like janitorial maintenance of crappy applications. Mario's previous project was the latter.

After 6 months of my team, it becomes clear that he is a terrible software engineer. His skills after two years at this company still haven't reached what you could reasonably expect from a CompSci student doing a summer internship before his senior year. Either this either wasn't apparent previously because it wasn't needed in his previous project, or his manager swept it under the rug. Mario is also highly delusional and convinced that he is hot shit, despite the fact that we basically kicked him off our team to move him to another team within the same project where he could hopefully gain from a gentler learning curve doing less cutting edge stuff.

He is also a member of the local toastmasters chapter, which, upon further inspection and attendance of the after-mentioned session that I attended, is about as interesting and mentally stimulating as a trip to the DMV. Two months ago he made a presentation and invited us all to watch, where he basically bragged about being financially responsible and buying a home at "only" 26 years of age. Now to his credit, the idea is that he is getting roommates and basically living for free (not sure if that's actually panned out yet). Upon pressing for details, he revealed that he is doing the 3.5% percent down mortgage with high PMI... on a 120k house.

Today at lunch it was revealed that he has been put on a performance improvement plan a few weeks ago. He is convinced that they have an axe to grind against him, and totally doesn't realize that this means he's about to get fired (as he should). Instead, he went and purchased a $16,000 sports motorcycle. For those of you who know nothing about motorcycles, that is a ridiculously nice bike. He is paying over $500/month for payments and full coverage insurance, and doesn't know his interest rate.

When I not-so-subtly tried to warn him that performance improvement plans can mean firing, he dismissed it saying he would get unemployment insurance. Unemployment insurance caps out at about $1,300/month in this state.
Mario is primo first-level management material. Engineers who aren't good on the technical side but love public speaking end up there.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15178 on: September 30, 2016, 11:13:26 AM »
A coworker got rear ended and his car was totaled. He said "they're only going to give me $8k for it so now I'm going to have to have another car payment again and I'm trying to buy a house!". I said $8k is plenty to get you a good reliable car. The look of disdain on his face is was priceless as he exclaimed "I couldn't drive something THAT cheap!" Mind you he only makes $55k a year and the car he totaled cost him $12k a few years ago so it's not like that would be a major downgrade. Even the nonmustachian coworkers in the room where laughing about it.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15179 on: September 30, 2016, 11:23:23 AM »
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doesn't know his interest rate.

I think this is the part that hurts my brain the most.   

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15180 on: September 30, 2016, 11:32:24 AM »
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doesn't know his interest rate.

I think this is the part that hurts my brain the most.

I don't know the interest rate on any of my credit cards.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15181 on: September 30, 2016, 11:38:26 AM »
"makes only 55K".... my coworker makes 22K has a 24% car note.... don't know which is worse--- not knowing or going with 24% and not trying to refi it....  and what's this "only" stuff anyway....
Software engineering is a different realm of reality when it comes to salaries.

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« Reply #15182 on: September 30, 2016, 12:15:25 PM »
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doesn't know his interest rate.

I think this is the part that hurts my brain the most.

I don't know the interest rate on any of my credit cards.

It's an irrelevant piece of information to me, I've never looked to find it out, or my limits.  I do know which ones charge foreign transaction fees though.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15183 on: September 30, 2016, 12:21:30 PM »
The "only makes" was to point out he's not making a hefty salary where most people are expected to drive new expensive cars and such, didn't mean it in a negative way. Union shop, we're all paid the same which is how I know what he makes, it's the same as what I make.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15184 on: September 30, 2016, 01:16:06 PM »
Okay, after months of covertly observing a coworker, I have enough material to share this.

...[lots of funny stuff]...
When I not-so-subtly tried to warn him that performance improvement plans can mean firing, he dismissed it saying he would get unemployment insurance. Unemployment insurance caps out at about $1,300/month in this state.


Sounds like a classic case of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

I actually feel sorry for the guy.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15185 on: September 30, 2016, 01:37:08 PM »
Okay, after months of covertly observing a coworker, I have enough material to share this.

...[lots of funny stuff]...
When I not-so-subtly tried to warn him that performance improvement plans can mean firing, he dismissed it saying he would get unemployment insurance. Unemployment insurance caps out at about $1,300/month in this state.


Sounds like a classic case of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

I actually feel sorry for the guy.

"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt."
-Bertrand Russell


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15186 on: September 30, 2016, 05:11:11 PM »
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt."
-Bertrand Russell

Whereas Bertrand Russell's problem seems to be brevity.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15187 on: September 30, 2016, 07:22:01 PM »
A coworker got rear ended and his car was totaled. He said "they're only going to give me $8k for it so now I'm going to have to have another car payment again and I'm trying to buy a house!". I said $8k is plenty to get you a good reliable car. The look of disdain on his face is was priceless as he exclaimed "I couldn't drive something THAT cheap!"
I think the proper response at that point would be "until the accident, you *were* driving something that cheap."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15188 on: September 30, 2016, 10:20:41 PM »
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Mario is also highly delusional and convinced that he is hot shit, despite the fact that we basically kicked him off our team to move him to another team within the same project where he could hopefully gain from a gentler learning curve doing less cutting edge stuff.

He is also a member of the local toastmasters chapter, which, upon further inspection and attendance of the after-mentioned session that I attended, is about as interesting and mentally stimulating as a trip to the DMV. Two months ago he made a presentation and invited us all to watch, where he basically bragged about being financially responsible and buying a home at "only" 26 years of age. Now to his credit, the idea is that he is getting roommates and basically living for free (not sure if that's actually panned out yet). Upon pressing for details, he revealed that he is doing the 3.5% percent down mortgage with high PMI... on a 120k house.

Mario is primo first-level management material. Engineers who aren't good on the technical side but love public speaking end up there.

I know Mario's older brother, who I'll call Luigi. On Linkedin and confluence, he gave himself a title, "Lead Developer," when he had only 1 year of experience. He would leave work unfinished (=not compiling) and, when pressed, begrudgingly fix it and then ask us, his peers, to test it for him. At his college internship at Facebook, he assured us that he worked with "really elite developers."

It was a first-hand look at someone vying for insta-manager. He was a total git but, still, it was a fascinating look into how shitty developers become shitty managers. In the end, management saw through him and he got the axe.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15189 on: October 01, 2016, 07:36:50 AM »
We have had some layoffs and a restructuring at work so many of us are job searching. One coworker is really stressed about a potential layoff because he has a child in college. He then proceeds to tell me that his son's fraternity costs $800 a month for fees plus he is paying tuition out of pocket. I applaud him for not getting student loans but the son would have to drop the frat house or get a job. In the last year this coworker has bought a new car for himself and his son and mentioned taking out a large line of credit on his house.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15190 on: October 01, 2016, 02:01:19 PM »
We have had some layoffs and a restructuring at work so many of us are job searching. One coworker is really stressed about a potential layoff because he has a child in college. He then proceeds to tell me that his son's fraternity costs $800 a month for fees plus he is paying tuition out of pocket. I applaud him for not getting student loans but the son would have to drop the frat house or get a job. In the last year this coworker has bought a new car for himself and his son and mentioned taking out a large line of credit on his house.

Not too outrageous if Frat house is also accommodation...?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15191 on: October 01, 2016, 07:41:09 PM »
We have had some layoffs and a restructuring at work so many of us are job searching. One coworker is really stressed about a potential layoff because he has a child in college. He then proceeds to tell me that his son's fraternity costs $800 a month for fees plus he is paying tuition out of pocket. I applaud him for not getting student loans but the son would have to drop the frat house or get a job. In the last year this coworker has bought a new car for himself and his son and mentioned taking out a large line of credit on his house.

Not too outrageous if Frat house is also accommodation...?

No, living at the frat house was a whole other expense. His sdon !ives in the dorm. This is just the monthly fee to be in it. (I might be messing up some of the terminology because we didn't have fraternities and sororities at my school).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15192 on: October 02, 2016, 02:12:54 PM »
I'm only about halfway through the posts on this thread.  I've been reading for a while.  But I wanted to contribute.

So a coworker of mine who makes a lot more money than I do was talking about going to a professional conference that is later this month.  He has worked in this job for >20 years, and less than a year ago, all of the people who held similar job positions as he got a huge salary increase (or so I heard from a colleague of his who had been working in the same type of job for about 4 years).  I am not sure what he makes, but it is over $150k because the starting salary is that.  We live in a very low cost-of-living area.  He was lamenting that the employer didn't pay up front for the cost of the plane ticket, because he has to buy the plane ticket and get reimbursed after the conference.  Then he mentioned he had to pay the conference registration fee, which was several hundred dollars, with his credit card, which he is paying interest on, and he would have to pay interest on the charge associated with buying the plane ticket.

I took this to mean that he doesn't pay off his credit cards every month.  You'd think after 20+ years of a steady income that had a fairly recent increase in salary that he would have a hold on his spending.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15193 on: October 02, 2016, 04:23:00 PM »
I'm only about halfway through the posts on this thread.  I've been reading for a while.  But I wanted to contribute.

So a coworker of mine who makes a lot more money than I do was talking about going to a professional conference that is later this month.  He has worked in this job for >20 years, and less than a year ago, all of the people who held similar job positions as he got a huge salary increase (or so I heard from a colleague of his who had been working in the same type of job for about 4 years).  I am not sure what he makes, but it is over $150k because the starting salary is that.  We live in a very low cost-of-living area.  He was lamenting that the employer didn't pay up front for the cost of the plane ticket, because he has to buy the plane ticket and get reimbursed after the conference.  Then he mentioned he had to pay the conference registration fee, which was several hundred dollars, with his credit card, which he is paying interest on, and he would have to pay interest on the charge associated with buying the plane ticket.

I took this to mean that he doesn't pay off his credit cards every month.  You'd think after 20+ years of a steady income that had a fairly recent increase in salary that he would have a hold on his spending.

Meanwhile over here, I'd love to have that problem since I could trivially max out my CSR travel bonus without any manufactured spending :P

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15194 on: October 02, 2016, 04:24:20 PM »
We have had some layoffs and a restructuring at work so many of us are job searching. One coworker is really stressed about a potential layoff because he has a child in college. He then proceeds to tell me that his son's fraternity costs $800 a month for fees plus he is paying tuition out of pocket. I applaud him for not getting student loans but the son would have to drop the frat house or get a job. In the last year this coworker has bought a new car for himself and his son and mentioned taking out a large line of credit on his house.

Not too outrageous if Frat house is also accommodation...?

No, living at the frat house was a whole other expense. His sdon !ives in the dorm. This is just the monthly fee to be in it. (I might be messing up some of the terminology because we didn't have fraternities and sororities at my school).

YIKES. My fraternity charged $550/month in rent, which included all utilites and is an even better deal when factoring that the lease was for 9 months, summer's were $100/month. I don't recall what dues were, but they weren't unreasonable at all.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15195 on: October 02, 2016, 05:52:58 PM »
I'm only about halfway through the posts on this thread.  I've been reading for a while.  But I wanted to contribute.

So a coworker of mine who makes a lot more money than I do was talking about going to a professional conference that is later this month.  He has worked in this job for >20 years, and less than a year ago, all of the people who held similar job positions as he got a huge salary increase (or so I heard from a colleague of his who had been working in the same type of job for about 4 years).  I am not sure what he makes, but it is over $150k because the starting salary is that.  We live in a very low cost-of-living area.  He was lamenting that the employer didn't pay up front for the cost of the plane ticket, because he has to buy the plane ticket and get reimbursed after the conference.  Then he mentioned he had to pay the conference registration fee, which was several hundred dollars, with his credit card, which he is paying interest on, and he would have to pay interest on the charge associated with buying the plane ticket.

I took this to mean that he doesn't pay off his credit cards every month.  You'd think after 20+ years of a steady income that had a fairly recent increase in salary that he would have a hold on his spending.

Great story!  These things boggle my mind!  I would try to use my credit card to pay for everything work related knowing that I would get reimbursed.

Heck, I did about $3000 in purchases last month on my credit card that are not personal charges.  That's an easy $30 in rewards at 1% or if I cash in for gift cards I could get more in return.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15196 on: October 02, 2016, 09:04:09 PM »
Seen over a work lunch at a fast service place:

Woman in scrubs and sneakers and a new pink Michael Khors (?sp?) bag.

It did NOT match the outfit, so why?????just why????

Because it matches her non-scrub outfits and she doesn't want to buy another bag specially for work, but she still needs to carry her wallet and keys etc. when she's at work? It probably stays in her locker when she's in the hospital.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15197 on: October 03, 2016, 05:43:56 AM »
We have had some layoffs and a restructuring at work so many of us are job searching. One coworker is really stressed about a potential layoff because he has a child in college. He then proceeds to tell me that his son's fraternity costs $800 a month for fees plus he is paying tuition out of pocket. I applaud him for not getting student loans but the son would have to drop the frat house or get a job. In the last year this coworker has bought a new car for himself and his son and mentioned taking out a large line of credit on his house.

Not too outrageous if Frat house is also accommodation...?

No, living at the frat house was a whole other expense. His sdon !ives in the dorm. This is just the monthly fee to be in it. (I might be messing up some of the terminology because we didn't have fraternities and sororities at my school).

YIKES. My fraternity charged $550/month in rent, which included all utilites and is an even better deal when factoring that the lease was for 9 months, summer's were $100/month. I don't recall what dues were, but they weren't unreasonable at all.

800 isnt bad at all ... when i started school 11 years ago it was 400 a month included room and board - 4 months per semester of payments. (try finding 8-9 month rentals in college towns you cant for a reasonable price)  at the time dorms were 800-900 for room and board per month.  now our fraternity is over 1k per month b/c they renovated.  about 2x what i paid inflation adjusted. but if 800 includes room and board thats not that bad.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15198 on: October 03, 2016, 08:27:51 AM »
We have had some layoffs and a restructuring at work so many of us are job searching. One coworker is really stressed about a potential layoff because he has a child in college. He then proceeds to tell me that his son's fraternity costs $800 a month for fees plus he is paying tuition out of pocket. I applaud him for not getting student loans but the son would have to drop the frat house or get a job. In the last year this coworker has bought a new car for himself and his son and mentioned taking out a large line of credit on his house.

No, living at the frat house was a whole other expense. His sdon !ives in the dorm. This is just the monthly fee to be in it. (I might be messing up some of the terminology because we didn't have fraternities and sororities at my school).

800 isnt bad at all ... when i started school 11 years ago it was 400 a month included room and board - 4 months per semester of payments. (try finding 8-9 month rentals in college towns you cant for a reasonable price)  at the time dorms were 800-900 for room and board per month.  now our fraternity is over 1k per month b/c they renovated.  about 2x what i paid inflation adjusted. but if 800 includes room and board thats not that bad.

I think crispy is saying that the $800 per month is JUST fees and doesn't give the kid room and board in a frat house.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15199 on: October 03, 2016, 08:55:06 AM »
We have had some layoffs and a restructuring at work so many of us are job searching. One coworker is really stressed about a potential layoff because he has a child in college. He then proceeds to tell me that his son's fraternity costs $800 a month for fees plus he is paying tuition out of pocket. I applaud him for not getting student loans but the son would have to drop the frat house or get a job. In the last year this coworker has bought a new car for himself and his son and mentioned taking out a large line of credit on his house.

I want to borrow a pair of Google glasses for a week that super impose a person's income, debt and profession over their heads as they walk by. For years I've wondered how many of the 'fat cats' that I mix with in a given week are setup like this character.   
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