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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2801 on: October 13, 2020, 03:47:07 AM »
But wait, Teslas *don't* go vroom vroom.
They are legally mandated to go *something* though. But what the Teslas say I don't know. Or what the mech says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF6HYNqCDLI


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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2802 on: October 13, 2020, 02:52:00 PM »
But wait, Teslas *don't* go vroom vroom.

Yet. If they think that people want to hear vroom vroom, then they'll have the computer play vroom vroom over external facing speakers.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2803 on: October 14, 2020, 02:01:50 PM »
Do stocks ever rust out?

j/k, j/k...

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2804 on: October 14, 2020, 06:51:39 PM »
I tried using distilled water in my iron, but it just caused it to leak out into black foam that looked orange so you could see it better.

What did the investigators have to say?

Not sure, they vroomed off in a stock certificate.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2805 on: October 14, 2020, 07:19:20 PM »
I tried using distilled water in my iron, but it just caused it to leak out into black foam that looked orange so you could see it better.

This has been bugging me all day.  Can someone explain the joke?

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2806 on: October 14, 2020, 07:50:22 PM »
I tried using distilled water in my iron, but it just caused it to leak out into black foam that looked orange so you could see it better.

This has been bugging me all day.  Can someone explain the joke?
Several years ago in this thread there was a rather length off-topic discussion of airplane "black boxes" and how they're actually orange, and related stuff.  Since then, such off-topic posts came to be known as "foam."

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2807 on: October 15, 2020, 12:09:58 AM »
I tried using distilled water in my iron, but it just caused it to leak out into black foam that looked orange so you could see it better.

This has been bugging me all day.  Can someone explain the joke?
Several years ago in this thread there was a rather length off-topic discussion of airplane "black boxes" and how they're actually orange, and related stuff.  Since then, such off-topic posts came to be known as "foam."

It was only like 2 pages, people.  Get over it!

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/antimustachian-wall-of-shame-and-comedy/overheard-at-work/msg434327/#msg434327

Also, reading that it doesn't seem to be the origin of the foam. Can't remember where that started.

Ok I found it.  Started a few pages earlier after off-topic discussion of espresso foam.  YOU'RE WELCOME

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/antimustachian-wall-of-shame-and-comedy/overheard-at-work/msg412005/#msg412005

Do I now receive a PhD in Mustachian History?
« Last Edit: October 15, 2020, 12:17:41 AM by dragoncar »

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2808 on: October 15, 2020, 01:10:11 AM »
I sometimes wonder if MMM reads this stuff, and what he might think of it when he does. And yes, you get a PhD in Mustachian History.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2809 on: October 15, 2020, 06:02:30 AM »
I sometimes wonder if MMM reads this stuff, and what he might think of it when he does. And yes, you get a PhD in Mustachian History.

He created his own Matrix.   ;-)

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2810 on: October 15, 2020, 09:51:59 AM »
I tried using distilled water in my iron, but it just caused it to leak out into black foam that looked orange so you could see it better.

This has been bugging me all day.  Can someone explain the joke?
Several years ago in this thread there was a rather length off-topic discussion of airplane "black boxes" and how they're actually orange, and related stuff.  Since then, such off-topic posts came to be known as "foam."

It was only like 2 pages, people.  Get over it!

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/antimustachian-wall-of-shame-and-comedy/overheard-at-work/msg434327/#msg434327

Also, reading that it doesn't seem to be the origin of the foam. Can't remember where that started.

Ok I found it.  Started a few pages earlier after off-topic discussion of espresso foam.  YOU'RE WELCOME

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/antimustachian-wall-of-shame-and-comedy/overheard-at-work/msg412005/#msg412005

Do I now receive a PhD in Mustachian History?

THANK YOU

But seriously, now that you've done the work I think it would be fun to have a Forum History thread in the "Forum Information & FAQs" section.
They're almost like Forum Inside Jokes. What other inside jokes do we have?

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2811 on: October 15, 2020, 10:25:09 AM »
I tried using distilled water in my iron, but it just caused it to leak out into black foam that looked orange so you could see it better.

This has been bugging me all day.  Can someone explain the joke?
Several years ago in this thread there was a rather length off-topic discussion of airplane "black boxes" and how they're actually orange, and related stuff.  Since then, such off-topic posts came to be known as "foam."

It was only like 2 pages, people.  Get over it!

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/antimustachian-wall-of-shame-and-comedy/overheard-at-work/msg434327/#msg434327

Also, reading that it doesn't seem to be the origin of the foam. Can't remember where that started.

Ok I found it.  Started a few pages earlier after off-topic discussion of espresso foam.  YOU'RE WELCOME

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/antimustachian-wall-of-shame-and-comedy/overheard-at-work/msg412005/#msg412005

Do I now receive a PhD in Mustachian History?

THANK YOU

But seriously, now that you've done the work I think it would be fun to have a Forum History thread in the "Forum Information & FAQs" section.
They're almost like Forum Inside Jokes. What other inside jokes do we have?

@sol's blender thread should make the list

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2812 on: October 16, 2020, 12:40:30 AM »
Dudes.    Really.   Stocks aren't cars.   We all get that.    Even I , who gave the example, get that.

The example was to illustrate HOW REGULAR PEOPLE VIEW STOCKS in such a way that would make it extremely clear to them WHAT THEY GOT WRONG in their thinking about stocks.

It's purpose is to help explain why panicking about a drop in the spot price is foolish and stupid in a way they will both intellectually and emotionally grasp.

That's it.  No more.  No less.

I can't drive stocks to work to make more money to buy better stocks, so your comparison is invalid
/troll

I need a bumper sticker that says "My Other Ride is an Investment Vehicle"
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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2813 on: October 16, 2020, 04:08:22 AM »
Dudes.    Really.   Stocks aren't cars.   We all get that.    Even I , who gave the example, get that.

The example was to illustrate HOW REGULAR PEOPLE VIEW STOCKS in such a way that would make it extremely clear to them WHAT THEY GOT WRONG in their thinking about stocks.

It's purpose is to help explain why panicking about a drop in the spot price is foolish and stupid in a way they will both intellectually and emotionally grasp.

That's it.  No more.  No less.

I can't drive stocks to work to make more money to buy better stocks, so your comparison is invalid
/troll

I need a bumper sticker that says "My Other Ride is an Investment Vehicle"

I need this sticker for my bike.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2814 on: October 16, 2020, 08:00:02 AM »
Dudes.    Really.   Stocks aren't cars.   We all get that.    Even I , who gave the example, get that.

The example was to illustrate HOW REGULAR PEOPLE VIEW STOCKS in such a way that would make it extremely clear to them WHAT THEY GOT WRONG in their thinking about stocks.

It's purpose is to help explain why panicking about a drop in the spot price is foolish and stupid in a way they will both intellectually and emotionally grasp.

That's it.  No more.  No less.

I can't drive stocks to work to make more money to buy better stocks, so your comparison is invalid
/troll

I need a bumper sticker that says "My Other Ride is an Investment Vehicle"

@Valley of Plenty , that's awesome!!!!!    I'm making that sign to put on my quadracycle surrey bike!!!

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2815 on: October 16, 2020, 11:12:07 AM »
I tried using distilled water in my iron, but it just caused it to leak out into black foam that looked orange so you could see it better.

This has been bugging me all day.  Can someone explain the joke?
Several years ago in this thread there was a rather length off-topic discussion of airplane "black boxes" and how they're actually orange, and related stuff.  Since then, such off-topic posts came to be known as "foam."

Don't forget the dress. Wasn't there a dress involved?

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2816 on: October 16, 2020, 06:03:25 PM »
To drag this back on topic, and mention cars....a coworker mentioned that they have *hundreds* of dollars in parking tickets.  From not parking in the PAID COMPANY PARKING.
Company parking is the same distance from the work site as the on-street parking where they got the tickets. They paid for some parking, but the meter expired and they got tickets. So they lost the money they paid for parking and the money for the tickets. Hundreds of dollars. Every year they work there.

Our parking is paid for by the company. The times I haven't had a parking pass with me, the manager reimbursed me immediately out of petty cash.

Yet this person keeps parking on the street and getting tickets. #headdesk


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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2817 on: October 17, 2020, 07:24:25 AM »
To drag this back on topic, and mention cars....a coworker mentioned that they have *hundreds* of dollars in parking tickets.  From not parking in the PAID COMPANY PARKING.
Company parking is the same distance from the work site as the on-street parking where they got the tickets. They paid for some parking, but the meter expired and they got tickets. So they lost the money they paid for parking and the money for the tickets. Hundreds of dollars. Every year they work there.

Our parking is paid for by the company. The times I haven't had a parking pass with me, the manager reimbursed me immediately out of petty cash.

Yet this person keeps parking on the street and getting tickets. #headdesk

Some people are just crazy when it comes to parking where they want to park, no matter what. I have a coworker whose car was towed earlier this year for thousands (not exaggerating) in unpaid tickets and fines. They live in the city and could take the bus to work, but instead want to drive their special car and park right out front, then forget about it. Well, now they are on a payment plan with the PPA to pay it all off. This same person, of course, takes every opportunity to complain about their low pay at work and how it isn't enough to live on.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2818 on: October 17, 2020, 09:21:41 AM »
A co-worker on Friday was talking about how they went to the dealership checking out the new 2021 F150's since his 2018 F150 is about to hit 100,000KM.  He was excited about a bunch of new options on the truck like the new bigger touch screen, and the built in power inverter so you can simply plug in a bunch of electronics etc..  He told the dealership to sign him up for one as long as they can keep the same payments. I can't understand how he doesn't see that those monthly payments add up to a lot of money and he is paying for the highest deprecation years of ownership over and over again. I tried to explain that to him, but could tell he wasn't interested in hearing my way of thinking. His logic is he is used to that payment and if it never changes and he gets to drive a new truck every couple of years he is happy and the dealership is happy everyone is a winner.  I don't know the payment details, but I am sure the dealership is just stretching out his payments over more years. It likely won't hit him how much he is paying until he stops buying a new one every couple of years and finds out he has to keep making those high payments for another 6-8 years without getting a new truck.



 

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2819 on: October 17, 2020, 05:33:42 PM »
One of the managers who works for me is on the road a lot a gets a lot of mileage reimbursement, plus a monthly car stipend.  He was talking about buying a new truck, and was trying to work out the math so it would be paid by the reimbursement and stipend.  I told him to ignore the stipend and the reimbursement, he gets that's no matter what, so it's not a factor in the decision (hoping he would take that to the logical conclusion and keep driving his current truck and bank the rest).

I could not get him to get off the notion that stipend + reimbursement >= new truck payment.

What can you do?

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2820 on: October 17, 2020, 05:51:28 PM »
Yet this person keeps parking on the street and getting tickets. #headdesk

They must have a reason that makes sense to them. Do you have any idea what it is?

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2821 on: October 17, 2020, 09:39:34 PM »
One of the managers who works for me is on the road a lot a gets a lot of mileage reimbursement, plus a monthly car stipend.  He was talking about buying a new truck, and was trying to work out the math so it would be paid by the reimbursement and stipend.  I told him to ignore the stipend and the reimbursement, he gets that's no matter what, so it's not a factor in the decision (hoping he would take that to the logical conclusion and keep driving his current truck and bank the rest).
Heh, I had that kind of deal at my last job, and one assignment was 50 miles from home.  100 miles per day, times $0.55/mile, on my (then-)12-year-old car was pretty sweet.  The thing more than paid for itself.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2822 on: October 18, 2020, 12:45:13 AM »
My company also pays quite big when traveling. I would make more money driving than my wage for the same hour. I would still not chose it, but dang, it hurts thinking about it.

One of the managers who works for me is on the road a lot a gets a lot of mileage reimbursement, plus a monthly car stipend.  He was talking about buying a new truck, and was trying to work out the math so it would be paid by the reimbursement and stipend.  I told him to ignore the stipend and the reimbursement, he gets that's no matter what, so it's not a factor in the decision (hoping he would take that to the logical conclusion and keep driving his current truck and bank the rest).

I could not get him to get off the notion that stipend + reimbursement >= new truck payment.

What can you do?
Did you make the "and this is the amount of money you would have left over every month in comparison. Would you prefer to have that and drive your old car or get a new one instead of all that money" argument? Compared to something else? Like "you could pay your son's sports club costs and still have money left".

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2823 on: October 18, 2020, 01:42:02 AM »
One of the managers who works for me is on the road a lot a gets a lot of mileage reimbursement, plus a monthly car stipend.  He was talking about buying a new truck, and was trying to work out the math so it would be paid by the reimbursement and stipend.  I told him to ignore the stipend and the reimbursement, he gets that's no matter what, so it's not a factor in the decision (hoping he would take that to the logical conclusion and keep driving his current truck and bank the rest).
Heh, I had that kind of deal at my last job, and one assignment was 50 miles from home.  100 miles per day, times $0.55/mile, on my (then-)12-year-old car was pretty sweet.  The thing more than paid for itself.

The wife gets reimbursed for mileage to work.  Seems like a decent bonus until you factor in the time/risk spent driving and remember it's totally not worth it.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2824 on: October 18, 2020, 01:43:33 AM »
Yet this person keeps parking on the street and getting tickets. #headdesk

They must have a reason that makes sense to them. Do you have any idea what it is?

Maybe they sold the parking pass

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2825 on: October 18, 2020, 02:27:23 AM »
My company also pays quite big when traveling. I would make more money driving than my wage for the same hour. I would still not chose it, but dang, it hurts thinking about it.

One of the managers who works for me is on the road a lot a gets a lot of mileage reimbursement, plus a monthly car stipend.  He was talking about buying a new truck, and was trying to work out the math so it would be paid by the reimbursement and stipend.  I told him to ignore the stipend and the reimbursement, he gets that's no matter what, so it's not a factor in the decision (hoping he would take that to the logical conclusion and keep driving his current truck and bank the rest).

I could not get him to get off the notion that stipend + reimbursement >= new truck payment.

What can you do?
Did you make the "and this is the amount of money you would have left over every month in comparison. Would you prefer to have that and drive your old car or get a new one instead of all that money" argument? Compared to something else? Like "you could pay your son's sports club costs and still have money left".

The problem is, a lot of non-mustachians would truly prefer a fancy car over more money in their wallet...

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2826 on: October 18, 2020, 08:14:53 AM »
My company also pays quite big when traveling. I would make more money driving than my wage for the same hour. I would still not chose it, but dang, it hurts thinking about it.

One of the managers who works for me is on the road a lot a gets a lot of mileage reimbursement, plus a monthly car stipend.  He was talking about buying a new truck, and was trying to work out the math so it would be paid by the reimbursement and stipend.  I told him to ignore the stipend and the reimbursement, he gets that's no matter what, so it's not a factor in the decision (hoping he would take that to the logical conclusion and keep driving his current truck and bank the rest).

I could not get him to get off the notion that stipend + reimbursement >= new truck payment.

What can you do?
Did you make the "and this is the amount of money you would have left over every month in comparison. Would you prefer to have that and drive your old car or get a new one instead of all that money" argument? Compared to something else? Like "you could pay your son's sports club costs and still have money left".

The problem is, a lot of non-mustachians would truly prefer a fancy car over more money in their wallet...
Then how about "better car or being able to quit 10 years earlier"?

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2827 on: October 18, 2020, 10:32:00 AM »
My company also pays quite big when traveling. I would make more money driving than my wage for the same hour. I would still not chose it, but dang, it hurts thinking about it.

One of the managers who works for me is on the road a lot a gets a lot of mileage reimbursement, plus a monthly car stipend.  He was talking about buying a new truck, and was trying to work out the math so it would be paid by the reimbursement and stipend.  I told him to ignore the stipend and the reimbursement, he gets that's no matter what, so it's not a factor in the decision (hoping he would take that to the logical conclusion and keep driving his current truck and bank the rest).

I could not get him to get off the notion that stipend + reimbursement >= new truck payment.

What can you do?
Did you make the "and this is the amount of money you would have left over every month in comparison. Would you prefer to have that and drive your old car or get a new one instead of all that money" argument? Compared to something else? Like "you could pay your son's sports club costs and still have money left".

The problem is, a lot of non-mustachians would truly prefer a fancy car over more money in their wallet...
Then how about "better car or being able to quit 10 years earlier"?

Pay off now vs pay off in 10 years? How do you think that's going to go?

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2828 on: October 18, 2020, 11:57:03 AM »
I gave up when he couldnít disconnect the income stream from the car purchase.  I donít know what he ended up doing, he works in another location from me.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2829 on: October 18, 2020, 05:21:18 PM »
Yet this person keeps parking on the street and getting tickets. #headdesk

They must have a reason that makes sense to them. Do you have any idea what it is?

Their reasoning is because their always running late, so this way they get to work faster. Except that we don't have a hard 'in time', and get about 15 minutes of flexibility. It takes me exactly three minutes to walk from paid parking to the site. It takes more than three minutes to run out and reload the meter multiple times a day.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2830 on: October 18, 2020, 06:36:31 PM »
When they died we found a box full of envelopes with small amounts of cash - used envelopes of course, labelled with "birthday" or "Christmas" or "hairdresser" in a very neat handwriting. They budgeted for everything and didn't spend more than they could afford.

Same with my grandparents; they had envelopes hidden all over the house. Having cash on hand rather than plastic was also a big part of that generation's financial planning.

I guarantee this was more effective than pretty much any modern method, including those used by mustachians. I worked in the credit card industry for a number of years. The consumer research shows that people spend significantly more when they use cards instead of cash. The research is pretty robust and applies across different consumer segments.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2831 on: October 19, 2020, 03:42:35 AM »
When they died we found a box full of envelopes with small amounts of cash - used envelopes of course, labelled with "birthday" or "Christmas" or "hairdresser" in a very neat handwriting. They budgeted for everything and didn't spend more than they could afford.

Same with my grandparents; they had envelopes hidden all over the house. Having cash on hand rather than plastic was also a big part of that generation's financial planning.

I guarantee this was more effective than pretty much any modern method, including those used by mustachians. I worked in the credit card industry for a number of years. The consumer research shows that people spend significantly more when they use cards instead of cash. The research is pretty robust and applies across different consumer segments.
Which is a main factor for the push for cashless payments. It saves hassles for busineses and makes people lose more money.
Of course for you personally it's bad, but as long as the economy is more important than people...

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2832 on: October 19, 2020, 05:09:00 AM »
When they died we found a box full of envelopes with small amounts of cash - used envelopes of course, labelled with "birthday" or "Christmas" or "hairdresser" in a very neat handwriting. They budgeted for everything and didn't spend more than they could afford.

Same with my grandparents; they had envelopes hidden all over the house. Having cash on hand rather than plastic was also a big part of that generation's financial planning.

I guarantee this was more effective than pretty much any modern method, including those used by mustachians. I worked in the credit card industry for a number of years. The consumer research shows that people spend significantly more when they use cards instead of cash. The research is pretty robust and applies across different consumer segments.
I avoid most affiliate cards/programs for the same reason. The reason the Target Red Card gives you a 5% discount is not because they like you. Well maybe it is. They like you because if you have one of their Red Cards, you are literally letting them advertise inside your own wallet. If you have their card, you will shop there more often and spend more money, you poor Consumer Sukka.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2833 on: October 19, 2020, 12:45:25 PM »
I know what the research says, but I just don't have that pain when spending cash that everyone always talks about.  I suspect that it's because I had my first bank account/checkbook/debit card before I had my first job.  Therefore, when I did start working the money in my account was mine that I'd worked for (and prior to that it was my allowance that had to be stretched out).  If I had cash, it was because of xmas/birthday gifts.  So cash has always felt like extra money to me.  Plus cash just disappears at my house.


Today's work event is that my team lead just announced the impending birth of his first child.  This from the man who has just recently stated that he wasn't having kids.  I was kind of amused by the number of people talking about how he's never going to get to retire now.  And based on what I know of him, they might be right (he's mentioned student loans, credit cards, and a mortgage).  This is going to be quite the shock to him and his wife. 

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2834 on: October 20, 2020, 03:45:14 AM »
Today's work event is that my team lead just announced the impending birth of his first child.  This is going to be quite the shock to him and his wife.
Oh, so his wife still does not know that her husband is becoming a father? Interesting... ;)

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2835 on: October 20, 2020, 05:58:12 AM »
Today's work event is that my team lead just announced the impending birth of his first child.  This is going to be quite the shock to him and his wife.
Oh, so his wife still does not know that her husband is becoming a father? Interesting... ;)

LOL

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2836 on: October 20, 2020, 06:16:49 AM »
Today's work event is that my team lead just announced the impending birth of his first child.  This is going to be quite the shock to him and his wife.
Oh, so his wife still does not know that her husband is becoming a father? Interesting... ;)
Had a male co-worker who came to work dejected one day, having found out his wife was pregnant (again).
Dumbass said "I just refuse to wear condoms".
Our Indiana-born-n-bred openly Baptist boss said, "what did you expect if you didn't use birth control?"
Rest of us: 'dude, it's not rocket science" and "you need to control your pocket rocket" and "don't blow your load in the cockpit" (mil workplace).

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« Reply #2837 on: October 20, 2020, 10:11:32 AM »
A co-worker on Friday was talking about how they went to the dealership checking out the new 2021 F150's since his 2018 F150 is about to hit 100,000KM.  He was excited about a bunch of new options on the truck like the new bigger touch screen, and the built in power inverter so you can simply plug in a bunch of electronics etc..  He told the dealership to sign him up for one as long as they can keep the same payments. I can't understand how he doesn't see that those monthly payments add up to a lot of money and he is paying for the highest deprecation years of ownership over and over again. I tried to explain that to him, but could tell he wasn't interested in hearing my way of thinking. His logic is he is used to that payment and if it never changes and he gets to drive a new truck every couple of years he is happy and the dealership is happy everyone is a winner.  I don't know the payment details, but I am sure the dealership is just stretching out his payments over more years. It likely won't hit him how much he is paying until he stops buying a new one every couple of years and finds out he has to keep making those high payments for another 6-8 years without getting a new truck.

A cheap inverter is $30. A good inverter a few hundred bucks. People!

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2838 on: October 20, 2020, 10:20:35 AM »
I find inverters in cars super convenient, but converting dc to ac only for the laptop brick to convert it back to dc... seems inefficient...

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2839 on: October 20, 2020, 10:25:52 AM »
I agree. Doesn't matter. Isn't costing anything directly like more gasoline.

However I'm not buying a 12V adapter for a gadget that is rarely used in the car or a passing interest.

We charge phones with 12V to USB adapters. We charge everything else via that old inverter when we camp or travel. That includes cordless drill batteries.
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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2840 on: October 20, 2020, 03:14:35 PM »
I find inverters in cars super convenient, but converting dc to ac only for the laptop brick to convert it back to dc... seems inefficient...
The vehicle's DC supply may be dirty and not supply sufficient current, hence the need for an inverter.
More info: https://www.autoguide.com/top-10-best-power-inverters-for-your-car

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2841 on: October 20, 2020, 11:36:52 PM »
Today's work event is that my team lead just announced the impending birth of his first child.  This is going to be quite the shock to him and his wife.
Oh, so his wife still does not know that her husband is becoming a father? Interesting... ;)
Had a male co-worker who came to work dejected one day, having found out his wife was pregnant (again).
Dumbass said "I just refuse to wear condoms".
Our Indiana-born-n-bred openly Baptist boss said, "what did you expect if you didn't use birth control?"
Rest of us: 'dude, it's not rocket science" and "you need to control your pocket rocket" and "don't blow your load in the cockpit" (mil workplace).

His wife is soooooo lucky to have him.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2842 on: October 21, 2020, 05:54:17 AM »
I know what the research says, but I just don't have that pain when spending cash that everyone always talks about.  I suspect that it's because I had my first bank account/checkbook/debit card before I had my first job.  Therefore, when I did start working the money in my account was mine that I'd worked for (and prior to that it was my allowance that had to be stretched out).  If I had cash, it was because of xmas/birthday gifts.  So cash has always felt like extra money to me.  Plus cash just disappears at my house.

Husband and I have the same experience. Credit card spending can be tracked very easily online, and any impulse to spend is checked by the knowledge that weíre going to have to account for it later when we 1) update Quicken and 2) pay our bills. Cash, on the other hand, tends to get frittered away, with little record of it. Yes, we could go all Gail Vaz-Oxlade and write every penny down. Realistically, Iíve known my husband for almost 2 decades and I know that isnít going to happen.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2843 on: October 21, 2020, 05:55:12 AM »
Today's work event is that my team lead just announced the impending birth of his first child.  This is going to be quite the shock to him and his wife.
Oh, so his wife still does not know that her husband is becoming a father? Interesting... ;)
Had a male co-worker who came to work dejected one day, having found out his wife was pregnant (again).
Dumbass said "I just refuse to wear condoms".
Our Indiana-born-n-bred openly Baptist boss said, "what did you expect if you didn't use birth control?"
Rest of us: 'dude, it's not rocket science" and "you need to control your pocket rocket" and "don't blow your load in the cockpit" (mil workplace).

Wow. I hope his kids have better role models than him.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2844 on: October 22, 2020, 12:46:32 AM »
I find inverters in cars super convenient, but converting dc to ac only for the laptop brick to convert it back to dc... seems inefficient...

I've owned one for decades.  It was useful a few times when I needed to use the laptop for a road trip, but batteries have gotten a LOT better on electronic devices.  Long gone are the days where I would run a CD player (with AUX-tape adapter) along with a laptop and GPS device all off my inverter.

Still glad I have it for the zombie apocalypse though.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2845 on: October 22, 2020, 12:49:23 AM »
I find inverters in cars super convenient, but converting dc to ac only for the laptop brick to convert it back to dc... seems inefficient...
The vehicle's DC supply may be dirty and not supply sufficient current, hence the need for an inverter.
More info: https://www.autoguide.com/top-10-best-power-inverters-for-your-car

I haven't read the article yet but... if the DC supply can't supply sufficient current I have a hard time believing an inverter can fix that

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2846 on: October 22, 2020, 05:42:48 AM »
I know what the research says, but I just don't have that pain when spending cash that everyone always talks about.  I suspect that it's because I had my first bank account/checkbook/debit card before I had my first job.  Therefore, when I did start working the money in my account was mine that I'd worked for (and prior to that it was my allowance that had to be stretched out).  If I had cash, it was because of xmas/birthday gifts.  So cash has always felt like extra money to me.  Plus cash just disappears at my house.


Today's work event is that my team lead just announced the impending birth of his first child.  This from the man who has just recently stated that he wasn't having kids.  I was kind of amused by the number of people talking about how he's never going to get to retire now.  And based on what I know of him, they might be right (he's mentioned student loans, credit cards, and a mortgage).  This is going to be quite the shock to him and his wife.

Thinking back this might be why Iím good with imaginary cash.  My allowance as a little kids was kept track of on the family calculator.   I think that way my mom knew where I was spending my money.  If I wanted a Barbie, my mom would let me know if I had enough allowance to buy something.  If I wanted cash to ride my bike to the local confidence store to buy candy, she gave it to me but subtracted it from the calendar.   (Said store was not easy to get to so such rides were planned in advance.)

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2847 on: October 22, 2020, 07:38:44 AM »
I find inverters in cars super convenient, but converting dc to ac only for the laptop brick to convert it back to dc... seems inefficient...
The vehicle's DC supply may be dirty and not supply sufficient current, hence the need for an inverter.
More info: https://www.autoguide.com/top-10-best-power-inverters-for-your-car

I haven't read the article yet but... if the DC supply can't supply sufficient current I have a hard time believing an inverter can fix that

The cigarette lighter in many cars is limited to 15 AMPs. Use more and the fuse will blow. If you tie your inverter directly to the battery, you can get up to (in theory) the alternator's output and still not kill the battery. The alternator in my small SUV is 95 amps.

With my older inverter (500W I think) I've used a Sawzall and an electric drill in the field. Starting current for a big powertool is limited so I have to start no-load or start slowly and ramp up the speed. Its not ideal but once upon a time generators were expensive for me and cordless tools were lousy.

Back in the day when I was in the military I did alot of parking lot vehicle maintenance or upgrades. Was nice to run a 120V/75W work light rather than a flashlight. Good LED lights weren't a thing back then. Heck CFLs weren't really a thing yet.

Thankfully gadget efficiencies and batteries are much better than they once were.
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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2848 on: October 22, 2020, 09:03:38 AM »
A co-worker on Friday was talking about how they went to the dealership checking out the new 2021 F150's since his 2018 F150 is about to hit 100,000KM.  He was excited about a bunch of new options on the truck like the new bigger touch screen, and the built in power inverter so you can simply plug in a bunch of electronics etc..  He told the dealership to sign him up for one as long as they can keep the same payments. I can't understand how he doesn't see that those monthly payments add up to a lot of money and he is paying for the highest deprecation years of ownership over and over again. I tried to explain that to him, but could tell he wasn't interested in hearing my way of thinking. His logic is he is used to that payment and if it never changes and he gets to drive a new truck every couple of years he is happy and the dealership is happy everyone is a winner.  I don't know the payment details, but I am sure the dealership is just stretching out his payments over more years. It likely won't hit him how much he is paying until he stops buying a new one every couple of years and finds out he has to keep making those high payments for another 6-8 years without getting a new truck.

The emotional benefits are often overlooked too: I no longer fret about every single new ding on my car that is ten years old.  I am still salty about the damage done to the door after 1.5 months of owning it (dumb move by a careless parker... but couldn't *prove* it was them for fixing it)- but the damage in the last few years? Naw

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #2849 on: October 22, 2020, 01:08:48 PM »

The cigarette lighter in many cars is limited to 15 AMPs. Use more and the fuse will blow. If you tie your inverter directly to the battery, you can get up to (in theory) the alternator's output and still not kill the battery. The alternator in my small SUV is 95 amps.



Ah that's the part I was missing