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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1100 on: July 22, 2019, 05:59:20 PM »
I'd love to see your collection. What is your library collection like? History? Novels? Photography? DIY?
Pretty eclectic.

Novels: SciFi, Fantasy, Historical Fiction.

Reference works:  Ancient and Medieval History, World History, Pottery - esp Islamic, Byzantine and Medieval British Isles, Metalworking and Jewelry, Info Tech,  Art, Military Science,  Wargames, DIY books on most of the above.   Most of these simply can't be found at the local library because they are much too specialized.   We probably have one of the best libraries on Byzantine and medieval Islamic pottery in the hemisphere.   (We used to make a lot of reproduction pottery and I'm hoping that will happen again.)   Even copies of the two books my wife wrote, the one book I wrote, the published report to the US Government's Base Realignment and Closure commission I wrote most of (and edited the rest of), and a bunch of journals I edited or was published in.  Not a lot of programmers get assigned to write most of an official government report on behalf of one of the military branches so I'm pretty proud of that.   (And I've just outed myself to maybe half a dozen people in the nation with that confession.)

And just other interesting stuff, like some books on how to learn to read Latin that are so well written that they work really well with no other teacher despite being written totally in Latin.  Think about that for a moment.   That's some good writing.

Time to cull another bookshelf or two.  I think the ancient Roman sections are likely to get culled down.  We're not doing much with that area anymore.  Plus the information technology books.   

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« Reply #1101 on: July 22, 2019, 07:19:20 PM »

And just other interesting stuff, like some books on how to learn to read Latin that are so well written that they work really well with no other teacher despite being written totally in Latin.  Think about that for a moment.   That's some good writing.


What is this book? I'm interested!

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1102 on: July 22, 2019, 07:23:46 PM »
I desperately want to raid the fiction and pottery libraries, omg. *swoon*

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1103 on: July 22, 2019, 08:35:40 PM »
As devastated as she was, she never should have gotten a divorce.  Everyone is going to make mistakes.
Bringing a prostitute into the marital bed was not a 'mistake'. It was a betrayal.
It was a betrayal but it was also incredibly stupid because why in the world would anyone lease an depreciating asset?  Especially when any intelligent, decent person can have a much better version of the same experience for free?  The prostitute was obviously the last straw in their ongoing argument about appropriate spending priorities.

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« Reply #1104 on: July 22, 2019, 09:42:45 PM »
As devastated as she was, she never should have gotten a divorce.  Everyone is going to make mistakes.
Bringing a prostitute into the marital bed was not a 'mistake'. It was a betrayal.
It was a betrayal but it was also incredibly stupid because why in the world would anyone lease an depreciating asset?  Especially when any intelligent, decent person can have a much better version of the same experience for free?  The prostitute was obviously the last straw in their ongoing argument about appropriate spending priorities.

Wow, I was way off. Makes more sense now.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1105 on: July 22, 2019, 10:20:37 PM »
As devastated as she was, she never should have gotten a divorce.  Everyone is going to make mistakes.
Bringing a prostitute into the marital bed was not a 'mistake'. It was a betrayal.
It was a betrayal but it was also incredibly stupid because why in the world would anyone lease an depreciating asset?  Especially when any intelligent, decent person can have a much better version of the same experience for free?  The prostitute was obviously the last straw in their ongoing argument about appropriate spending priorities.

Wow, I was way off. Makes more sense now.
It is for the new car smell, obviously

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1106 on: July 22, 2019, 10:25:48 PM »
I work for a company that offers an unpaid 3-month sabbatical option to employees with 5 years of service (benefits being, your job is secure & they continue to cover your health insurance etc. during these 3 months but you just don't get paid your normal salary). I haven't worked there for 5 years yet, but I was having lunch the other day with a (young ~30 year old, single, healthy) colleague who has, and he mentioned that he is eligible for a sabbatical and wants to take one due to burnout, but is hesitating because he "needs to make money/can't afford to take 3 months off". I know for a fact based on his job title/tenure that he makes at least $100K so this was baffling to me.

I mean, granted, we live in a high COL area (LA) but if you knew this was something you wanted to do and could plan in advance, it would be super easy to do cheaply.. so what the heck is this guy doing with his six figure salary the rest of the time??

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1107 on: July 22, 2019, 10:36:57 PM »
I have a friend like that who started his career at the same time I did, with the same job title and level. Our careers have diverged a bit but I have mostly had a good idea of what he makes due to similarities. He has pretty much always spent everything from what I can gather. Granted now he has a wife who stays at home with their kids while we remained a two income household, but he said before that they don’t have savings for a down payment if/when they grow out of their current place and aren’t doing anything about saving up one. Their plan is to inherit her parents’ house nearby as she is an only child. That is reasonable to expect, though the timeline is naturally uncertain. Meanwhile we should be reaching our number next year, market gods be willing.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1108 on: July 23, 2019, 08:37:39 AM »
I desperately want to raid the fiction and pottery libraries, omg. *swoon*
I think we need to start a separate thread where we can all show off and discuss our private libraries.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1109 on: July 23, 2019, 09:38:55 AM »
I desperately want to raid the fiction and pottery libraries, omg. *swoon*
I think we need to start a separate thread where we can all show off and discuss our private libraries.

post the link here, so all of us book braggarts can join in.
(Smallish library, offset by geek factor)

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1110 on: July 23, 2019, 09:41:28 AM »
As devastated as she was, she never should have gotten a divorce.  Everyone is going to make mistakes.
Bringing a prostitute into the marital bed was not a 'mistake'. It was a betrayal.
It was a betrayal but it was also incredibly stupid because why in the world would anyone lease an depreciating asset?  Especially when any intelligent, decent person can have a much better version of the same experience for free?  The prostitute was obviously the last straw in their ongoing argument about appropriate spending priorities.

Wow, I was way off. Makes more sense now.
It is for the new car smell, obviously
That car was probably well used.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1111 on: July 23, 2019, 10:47:15 AM »
New-to-him though

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1112 on: July 23, 2019, 10:50:40 AM »
As devastated as she was, she never should have gotten a divorce.  Everyone is going to make mistakes.
Bringing a prostitute into the marital bed was not a 'mistake'. It was a betrayal.
It was a betrayal but it was also incredibly stupid because why in the world would anyone lease an depreciating asset?  Especially when any intelligent, decent person can have a much better version of the same experience for free?  The prostitute was obviously the last straw in their ongoing argument about appropriate spending priorities.

We need a hooker vs. dating finance calculator (like rent vs. own)

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1113 on: July 23, 2019, 11:00:31 AM »

And just other interesting stuff, like some books on how to learn to read Latin that are so well written that they work really well with no other teacher despite being written totally in Latin.  Think about that for a moment.   That's some good writing.


What is this book? I'm interested!

Don't know if this is the exact one that SwordGuy has, but I have a friend who has used this one and swears by it. https://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205/ref=pd_cp_14_1?pd_rd_w=2HbBQ&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=WSHADN71G4J9TN0Z698E&pd_rd_r=39b831b0-acd9-449b-853b-1ee3e76e3fb4&pd_rd_wg=t9AaS&pd_rd_i=1585104205&psc=1&refRID=WSHADN71G4J9TN0Z698E

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1114 on: July 23, 2019, 01:40:42 PM »
I desperately want to raid the fiction and pottery libraries, omg. *swoon*
I think we need to start a separate thread where we can all show off and discuss our private libraries.

post the link here, so all of us book braggarts can join in.
(Smallish library, offset by geek factor)
Done--the "Show off your library" thread is now live!

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1115 on: July 23, 2019, 02:34:07 PM »
Three of my coworkers were just chatting in the kitchenette near where I am sitting and I just heard one of them say his parents pay for most of his rent. They were talking about buying houses and he said he and his girlfriend absolutely love their apartment and can't imagine moving out of it to buy something. Ok, that isn't bad on it's own. Then he said he had been paying over half of his salary toward rent so now his parents pay $1700 per month and he pays $1000. Denver is becoming a higher cost of living place, but he obviously lives in an EXTREMELY high-end apartment, likely right in downtown. I just built a brand-new townhouse and my mortgage payment is less than $2700 per month.

This man is in his early thirties and he is a GS-12 and his parents are paying the majority of his rent each month, when there are plenty of apartments within his means. That is just insane.

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« Reply #1116 on: July 23, 2019, 02:58:20 PM »
Three of my coworkers were just chatting in the kitchenette near where I am sitting and I just heard one of them say his parents pay for most of his rent. They were talking about buying houses and he said he and his girlfriend absolutely love their apartment and can't imagine moving out of it to buy something. Ok, that isn't bad on it's own. Then he said he had been paying over half of his salary toward rent so now his parents pay $1700 per month and he pays $1000. Denver is becoming a higher cost of living place, but he obviously lives in an EXTREMELY high-end apartment, likely right in downtown. I just built a brand-new townhouse and my mortgage payment is less than $2700 per month.

This man is in his early thirties and he is a GS-12 and his parents are paying the majority of his rent each month, when there are plenty of apartments within his means. That is just insane.

...I'm sorry...what????????

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1117 on: July 23, 2019, 03:32:48 PM »
Three of my coworkers were just chatting in the kitchenette near where I am sitting and I just heard one of them say his parents pay for most of his rent. They were talking about buying houses and he said he and his girlfriend absolutely love their apartment and can't imagine moving out of it to buy something. Ok, that isn't bad on it's own. Then he said he had been paying over half of his salary toward rent so now his parents pay $1700 per month and he pays $1000. Denver is becoming a higher cost of living place, but he obviously lives in an EXTREMELY high-end apartment, likely right in downtown. I just built a brand-new townhouse and my mortgage payment is less than $2700 per month.

This man is in his early thirties and he is a GS-12 and his parents are paying the majority of his rent each month, when there are plenty of apartments within his means. That is just insane.

Umm ... I know a lot of people like this.  Parents pay summer camp, parents pay daycare, parents pay vacations, parents paid for college, parents paid for grad school, parents paid for wedding, honeymoon, downpayment, house, car.  Parents paying daily living expenses is more unusual but definitely something I've seen.  This is extremely common in my community, people want their kids to have the best of everything and usually the parents can afford it.  Not my situation and it can make a normal person making a respectable salary feel crazy poor.

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« Reply #1118 on: July 23, 2019, 03:41:03 PM »
Here's the most interesting thing I recently overheard at work, although I'm not sure it belongs on the wall of shame.

ME:  How are things going?  It's kind of stressful right now with this new product, right?

COWORKER:  Yep.  Things are hard and between this [our job] and my blog I basically work all the time.

ME:  Maybe you should, like, sell the blog to someone.  Is that possible? 

COWORKER:  Well, the blog brings in about 40K a year ...

ME:  What?!  Sh*t, I had NO idea the blog was so successful!

ME:  That's amazing, good for you.  What are you doing with the money?  Are you guys saving for a house or something or maybe you plan to retire early?

COWORKER:  Actually, most of it goes to my parents.  My dad is crazy irresponsible with money and my mom just lost her job.

ME:  What?!  Sh*t, I had no idea.  I'm sorry.

You literally have no idea what is happening with other people's financial lives unless they tell you. 

I had assumed, based on background, appearance and other superficial or stereotypical things that this person came from an upper middle class family and had gotten an easy start in life and that they have been building on that this entire time.   Why don't we talk honestly about money more often?!

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« Reply #1119 on: July 23, 2019, 05:00:51 PM »
I had assumed, based on background, appearance and other superficial or stereotypical things that this person came from an upper middle class family and had gotten an easy start in life and that they have been building on that this entire time.   Why don't we talk honestly about money more often?!

I had the opposite experience this week with an admittedly spendy colleague who always complains about how he will never be able to buy a house.

Migrant family, parents on the pension, and I figured money had always been tight.

Nope, his parents won more than $1 million in a lottery about 15 years ago, and spent and gambled the lot.

This explains the note of resentment he has when he talks about his parents and money. I would be seething.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1120 on: July 24, 2019, 07:58:23 AM »
Three of my coworkers were just chatting in the kitchenette near where I am sitting and I just heard one of them say his parents pay for most of his rent. They were talking about buying houses and he said he and his girlfriend absolutely love their apartment and can't imagine moving out of it to buy something. Ok, that isn't bad on it's own. Then he said he had been paying over half of his salary toward rent so now his parents pay $1700 per month and he pays $1000. Denver is becoming a higher cost of living place, but he obviously lives in an EXTREMELY high-end apartment, likely right in downtown. I just built a brand-new townhouse and my mortgage payment is less than $2700 per month.

This man is in his early thirties and he is a GS-12 and his parents are paying the majority of his rent each month, when there are plenty of apartments within his means. That is just insane.

Umm ... I know a lot of people like this.  Parents pay summer camp, parents pay daycare, parents pay vacations, parents paid for college, parents paid for grad school, parents paid for wedding, honeymoon, downpayment, house, car.  Parents paying daily living expenses is more unusual but definitely something I've seen.  This is extremely common in my community, people want their kids to have the best of everything and usually the parents can afford it.  Not my situation and it can make a normal person making a respectable salary feel crazy poor.

I've seen this as well and cannot figure out the end-game for the parents.  What do they expect to happen once they are no longer around?

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« Reply #1121 on: July 24, 2019, 09:45:23 AM »
Three of my coworkers were just chatting in the kitchenette near where I am sitting and I just heard one of them say his parents pay for most of his rent. They were talking about buying houses and he said he and his girlfriend absolutely love their apartment and can't imagine moving out of it to buy something. Ok, that isn't bad on it's own. Then he said he had been paying over half of his salary toward rent so now his parents pay $1700 per month and he pays $1000. Denver is becoming a higher cost of living place, but he obviously lives in an EXTREMELY high-end apartment, likely right in downtown. I just built a brand-new townhouse and my mortgage payment is less than $2700 per month.

This man is in his early thirties and he is a GS-12 and his parents are paying the majority of his rent each month, when there are plenty of apartments within his means. That is just insane.

Umm ... I know a lot of people like this.  Parents pay summer camp, parents pay daycare, parents pay vacations, parents paid for college, parents paid for grad school, parents paid for wedding, honeymoon, downpayment, house, car.  Parents paying daily living expenses is more unusual but definitely something I've seen.  This is extremely common in my community, people want their kids to have the best of everything and usually the parents can afford it.  Not my situation and it can make a normal person making a respectable salary feel crazy poor.

I've seen this as well and cannot figure out the end-game for the parents.  What do they expect to happen once they are no longer around?

That's a really good question. But you know, I know/see a lot of parents who parent by buying/giving their kids things/experiences, etc., with basically no end-game in mind at all. They seem to focus on providing for the kids' immediate wants, with no thought at all to whether their actions will help or hinder their children ever becoming adults who can stand on their own two feet and make good decisions. Part of it might just be exhaustion (like, sticking them in front of a screen all the time and feeding them with fast food because it takes more time to give them healthy activities and food). I don't know. But it's depressing as hell to watch people with their kids and feel pretty sure they're not teaching them any good life lessons.

A lot of those kids probably grow up to be the adults who are still taking handouts from their parents into their 30s, 40s, and beyond.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1122 on: July 24, 2019, 10:11:21 AM »
Three of my coworkers were just chatting in the kitchenette near where I am sitting and I just heard one of them say his parents pay for most of his rent. They were talking about buying houses and he said he and his girlfriend absolutely love their apartment and can't imagine moving out of it to buy something. Ok, that isn't bad on it's own. Then he said he had been paying over half of his salary toward rent so now his parents pay $1700 per month and he pays $1000. Denver is becoming a higher cost of living place, but he obviously lives in an EXTREMELY high-end apartment, likely right in downtown. I just built a brand-new townhouse and my mortgage payment is less than $2700 per month.

This man is in his early thirties and he is a GS-12 and his parents are paying the majority of his rent each month, when there are plenty of apartments within his means. That is just insane.

Umm ... I know a lot of people like this.  Parents pay summer camp, parents pay daycare, parents pay vacations, parents paid for college, parents paid for grad school, parents paid for wedding, honeymoon, downpayment, house, car.  Parents paying daily living expenses is more unusual but definitely something I've seen.  This is extremely common in my community, people want their kids to have the best of everything and usually the parents can afford it.  Not my situation and it can make a normal person making a respectable salary feel crazy poor.

I've seen this as well and cannot figure out the end-game for the parents.  What do they expect to happen once they are no longer around?

That's a really good question. But you know, I know/see a lot of parents who parent by buying/giving their kids things/experiences, etc., with basically no end-game in mind at all. They seem to focus on providing for the kids' immediate wants, with no thought at all to whether their actions will help or hinder their children ever becoming adults who can stand on their own two feet and make good decisions. Part of it might just be exhaustion (like, sticking them in front of a screen all the time and feeding them with fast food because it takes more time to give them healthy activities and food). I don't know. But it's depressing as hell to watch people with their kids and feel pretty sure they're not teaching them any good life lessons.

A lot of those kids probably grow up to be the adults who are still taking handouts from their parents into their 30s, 40s, and beyond.

I've listened to parents  like this talk among themselves.  It's all "happiness, happiness, happiness".  They view their job as a parent to give their kids what they want so they will be happy.

I tell them I view my job as a parent is to raise someone so they are a worthwhile adult who is kind,  thoughtful, knowledgeable, considerate, and able to take care of themselves and their spouse and children.

Those other parents do not do not DO NOT want to hear that.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1123 on: July 24, 2019, 10:42:53 AM »
Three of my coworkers were just chatting in the kitchenette near where I am sitting and I just heard one of them say his parents pay for most of his rent. They were talking about buying houses and he said he and his girlfriend absolutely love their apartment and can't imagine moving out of it to buy something. Ok, that isn't bad on it's own. Then he said he had been paying over half of his salary toward rent so now his parents pay $1700 per month and he pays $1000. Denver is becoming a higher cost of living place, but he obviously lives in an EXTREMELY high-end apartment, likely right in downtown. I just built a brand-new townhouse and my mortgage payment is less than $2700 per month.

This man is in his early thirties and he is a GS-12 and his parents are paying the majority of his rent each month, when there are plenty of apartments within his means. That is just insane.

Umm ... I know a lot of people like this.  Parents pay summer camp, parents pay daycare, parents pay vacations, parents paid for college, parents paid for grad school, parents paid for wedding, honeymoon, downpayment, house, car.  Parents paying daily living expenses is more unusual but definitely something I've seen.  This is extremely common in my community, people want their kids to have the best of everything and usually the parents can afford it.  Not my situation and it can make a normal person making a respectable salary feel crazy poor.

I've seen this as well and cannot figure out the end-game for the parents.  What do they expect to happen once they are no longer around?

That's a really good question. But you know, I know/see a lot of parents who parent by buying/giving their kids things/experiences, etc., with basically no end-game in mind at all. They seem to focus on providing for the kids' immediate wants, with no thought at all to whether their actions will help or hinder their children ever becoming adults who can stand on their own two feet and make good decisions. Part of it might just be exhaustion (like, sticking them in front of a screen all the time and feeding them with fast food because it takes more time to give them healthy activities and food). I don't know. But it's depressing as hell to watch people with their kids and feel pretty sure they're not teaching them any good life lessons.

A lot of those kids probably grow up to be the adults who are still taking handouts from their parents into their 30s, 40s, and beyond.

I've listened to parents  like this talk among themselves.  It's all "happiness, happiness, happiness".  They view their job as a parent to give their kids what they want so they will be happy.

I tell them I view my job as a parent is to raise someone so they are a worthwhile adult who is kind,  thoughtful, knowledgeable, considerate, and able to take care of themselves and their spouse and children.

Those other parents do not do not DO NOT want to hear that.


My husband can be like that if he's not kept in check.  My son told him last night that "it turns out buying [Ninja Turtle Toy] didn't make him happy after all."  I feel bad because my kiddo's having a not great summer (being picked on at daycare), but also proud as hell that he's realizing that stuff <> happiness.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1124 on: July 24, 2019, 11:23:28 AM »
I've listened to parents  like this talk among themselves.  It's all "happiness, happiness, happiness".  They view their job as a parent to give their kids what they want so they will be happy.

I tell them I view my job as a parent is to raise someone so they are a worthwhile adult who is kind,  thoughtful, knowledgeable, considerate, and able to take care of themselves and their spouse and children.

Those other parents do not do not DO NOT want to hear that.

I flat-out tell my kids that my job is to make them into "good grown-ups". "Why do I have to do chores, help with dishes, hang laundry, apologize to my brother?" "Because learning how to do those things now will mean that you know how to do them when you're a grown-up, and they're all part of being a good grown-up."

I also like to tell them stories about college friends whose parents never made them do anything, so when they moved out they didn't know how to do anything. They seem to especially enjoy the story of the guy who didn't know how to do laundry so when he and his gf broke up, he slept on a bare mattress topped with a pile of clothes for MONTHS.

@Sugaree Same with my husband. "Oh, I bought them that with my allowance". WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN ALLOWANCES. THE POINT OF PAYING THE KIDS ALLOWANCE IS SO THAT THEY MANAGE THEIR WANTS RATHER THAN GETTING US TO PAY FOR STUFF.


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« Reply #1125 on: July 24, 2019, 11:38:51 AM »
CW1 “me and my wife both have health savings account plans”
CW2 “oh so you have to put your own money in there?”
CW1 “yeah but we don’t put anything in there”

Note that CW1 is wearing ray bans and drinking a Starbucks Ice coffee at this time

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1126 on: July 24, 2019, 02:15:57 PM »
Not overheard at work but all of the comments about having a lot of books reminded me of a funny story.

About eight years ago, friends of ours opened their home as part of an annual neighborhood house tour and they asked me and DH to help in the house as guides, to answer questions, etc.  I was stationed in the second floor hall.  When one woman came up the steps, I pointed out the bedrooms and the bathroom with original clawfoot tub and subway tile.  One of the bedrooms had been turned into an office/library and the walls were lined with full bookshelves.  There was also a filled bookcase in the bathroom.  She took one look in that bedroom and the bathroom, visibly shuddered, and announced loudly that “there are too many books in this house -- and they’re even in the bathroom!!”  I politely said, “Ma’am, there is no such thing as too many books.”  She then informed me that she only owned one book.  I asked her what it was (expecting it to be a bible), and she told me that she reads a book, gets rid of it, and replaces it with one more book.  I just shook my head because I couldn’t comprehend that. 

And then she informed me that she also hated the subway tile in the bathroom.  It was too funny.

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« Reply #1127 on: July 24, 2019, 03:37:50 PM »
Not overheard at work but all of the comments about having a lot of books reminded me of a funny story.

About eight years ago, friends of ours opened their home as part of an annual neighborhood house tour and they asked me and DH to help in the house as guides, to answer questions, etc.  I was stationed in the second floor hall.  When one woman came up the steps, I pointed out the bedrooms and the bathroom with original clawfoot tub and subway tile.  One of the bedrooms had been turned into an office/library and the walls were lined with full bookshelves.  There was also a filled bookcase in the bathroom.  She took one look in that bedroom and the bathroom, visibly shuddered, and announced loudly that “there are too many books in this house -- and they’re even in the bathroom!!”  I politely said, “Ma’am, there is no such thing as too many books.”  She then informed me that she only owned one book.  I asked her what it was (expecting it to be a bible), and she told me that she reads a book, gets rid of it, and replaces it with one more book.  I just shook my head because I couldn’t comprehend that. 

And then she informed me that she also hated the subway tile in the bathroom.  It was too funny.

“IF I WANTED TO BE SURROUNDED BY BOOKS ALL DAY I WOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT JOB AT THE AMAZON WAREHOUSE!”

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1128 on: July 24, 2019, 07:39:33 PM »
This man is in his early thirties and he is a GS-12 and his parents are paying the majority of his rent each month, when there are plenty of apartments within his means. That is just insane.

Whaaatttt?  I'm GS-12 and we just put my husband through school with an infant in daycare and a mortgage for that salary.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1129 on: July 25, 2019, 06:56:35 AM »
This man is in his early thirties and he is a GS-12 and his parents are paying the majority of his rent each month, when there are plenty of apartments within his means. That is just insane.

Whaaatttt?  I'm GS-12 and we just put my husband through school with an infant in daycare and a mortgage for that salary.

Exactly. The cost of living adjustment doesn’t quite make up for the difference in the cost of living here but it is still insane. I’m a 13 now but for most of the time when I was a 12 my husband (who is blind) didn’t work and I paid our mortgage and all of our living expenses (albeit on a house that had a 3-4 hour commute to be affordable). Now that we live close to where I work even as a 13 we can’t afford daycare and for him to stay home so he is going to be a stay at home dad.

But to be a GS-12 and not be able to afford your own rent?! I paid 100% of my own rent when I made minimum wage, when I started as a GS-7, etc. I find it despicable.

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« Reply #1130 on: July 25, 2019, 07:40:50 AM »
I've listened to parents  like this talk among themselves.  It's all "happiness, happiness, happiness".  They view their job as a parent to give their kids what they want so they will be happy.

I tell them I view my job as a parent is to raise someone so they are a worthwhile adult who is kind,  thoughtful, knowledgeable, considerate, and able to take care of themselves and their spouse and children.

Those other parents do not do not DO NOT want to hear that.

I flat-out tell my kids that my job is to make them into "good grown-ups". "Why do I have to do chores, help with dishes, hang laundry, apologize to my brother?" "Because learning how to do those things now will mean that you know how to do them when you're a grown-up, and they're all part of being a good grown-up."

I also like to tell them stories about college friends whose parents never made them do anything, so when they moved out they didn't know how to do anything. They seem to especially enjoy the story of the guy who didn't know how to do laundry so when he and his gf broke up, he slept on a bare mattress topped with a pile of clothes for MONTHS.

@Sugaree Same with my husband. "Oh, I bought them that with my allowance". WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN ALLOWANCES. THE POINT OF PAYING THE KIDS ALLOWANCE IS SO THAT THEY MANAGE THEIR WANTS RATHER THAN GETTING US TO PAY FOR STUFF.

Absolutely! We tell our kids it is our job to raise responsible adults. And they can't learn everything they need to know 2 weeks before moving out so they better start now. For some reason the 9 year old is convinced that having to help make HIS OWN SANDWICH is a terrible punishment and no kid anywhere else ever has to do this.

I overhear a lot of conversation regarding kids at work and try to add those useful ideas into our home.

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« Reply #1131 on: July 25, 2019, 08:59:39 AM »
I've listened to parents  like this talk among themselves.  It's all "happiness, happiness, happiness".  They view their job as a parent to give their kids what they want so they will be happy.

I tell them I view my job as a parent is to raise someone so they are a worthwhile adult who is kind,  thoughtful, knowledgeable, considerate, and able to take care of themselves and their spouse and children.

Those other parents do not do not DO NOT want to hear that.

I flat-out tell my kids that my job is to make them into "good grown-ups". "Why do I have to do chores, help with dishes, hang laundry, apologize to my brother?" "Because learning how to do those things now will mean that you know how to do them when you're a grown-up, and they're all part of being a good grown-up."

I also like to tell them stories about college friends whose parents never made them do anything, so when they moved out they didn't know how to do anything. They seem to especially enjoy the story of the guy who didn't know how to do laundry so when he and his gf broke up, he slept on a bare mattress topped with a pile of clothes for MONTHS.

@Sugaree Same with my husband. "Oh, I bought them that with my allowance". WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN ALLOWANCES. THE POINT OF PAYING THE KIDS ALLOWANCE IS SO THAT THEY MANAGE THEIR WANTS RATHER THAN GETTING US TO PAY FOR STUFF.

Absolutely! We tell our kids it is our job to raise responsible adults. And they can't learn everything they need to know 2 weeks before moving out so they better start now. For some reason the 9 year old is convinced that having to help make HIS OWN SANDWICH is a terrible punishment and no kid anywhere else ever has to do this.

I overhear a lot of conversation regarding kids at work and try to add those useful ideas into our home.

Kids with skills are far superior and more mature than kids who don't have them, and they're much nicer to be around. Making a sandwich for yourself is the first step to making a plate of sandwiches to serve the family for lunch, or making breakfast in bed for Mom or Dad on a special day, and a kid who does that just plain lives better than other kids who don't know how to kiss up. Besides (and they will learn this later in life) people with lots of skills have the highest status. They get invited more places and frequently throw the best parties. Sometimes they are just spontaneously offered jobs.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1132 on: July 25, 2019, 09:39:07 AM »
Was talking with a coworker yesterday about weight loss, and she mentioned that another mutual coworker had recently bought into the latest fad diet system (you know the kind, they have their own bars, shakes, plans, etc.) and plopped down $300 for a week's worth of snacks/food. His reasoning is the only way he can stick with a diet is if it hurts his wallet... which would be great except for the fact that it hasn't worked for him yet! He's tried accountability bets in the past (lose a certain amount or pay into the pot) which didn't work for him either. Not really surprised because he and his wife are the models of consumerism (gigantic house, F350, quads, golf carts, the list goes on).

The coworker I was talking to was also trying to lose weight, and she mentioned once she hit her target she was going to get her eyebrows microbladed. Have you guys heard of this? I had to Google it after she left, but prices range from $200 to $1000 for the initial treatment, and up to $100/mo for touch ups. Just looked at a local shop - $400 for the initial treatment, $50 touch up 6-8 weeks out. AND they offer 0% financing for six months! What a deal!

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1133 on: July 25, 2019, 12:13:13 PM »
Was talking with a coworker yesterday about weight loss, and she mentioned that another mutual coworker had recently bought into the latest fad diet system (you know the kind, they have their own bars, shakes, plans, etc.) and plopped down $300 for a week's worth of snacks/food. His reasoning is the only way he can stick with a diet is if it hurts his wallet... which would be great except for the fact that it hasn't worked for him yet! He's tried accountability bets in the past (lose a certain amount or pay into the pot) which didn't work for him either. Not really surprised because he and his wife are the models of consumerism (gigantic house, F350, quads, golf carts, the list goes on).

The coworker I was talking to was also trying to lose weight, and she mentioned once she hit her target she was going to get her eyebrows microbladed. Have you guys heard of this? I had to Google it after she left, but prices range from $200 to $1000 for the initial treatment, and up to $100/mo for touch ups. Just looked at a local shop - $400 for the initial treatment, $50 touch up 6-8 weeks out. AND they offer 0% financing for six months! What a deal!


Let me see if I got this right.   Usually we make fun of consumer suckers because they buy depreciating assets that cost money instead of grow in value.

But this "investment in yourself" requires you to keep paying in order keep that investment from growing!

Damn, if I could just run a stock brokerage on those terms!   I would be rolling in dough!




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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1134 on: July 25, 2019, 12:23:11 PM »
The coworker I was talking to was also trying to lose weight, and she mentioned once she hit her target she was going to get her eyebrows microbladed. Have you guys heard of this? I had to Google it after she left, but prices range from $200 to $1000 for the initial treatment, and up to $100/mo for touch ups. Just looked at a local shop - $400 for the initial treatment, $50 touch up 6-8 weeks out. AND they offer 0% financing for six months! What a deal!

Yeah, all you have to do is google microblade fails and you will NEVER consider doing that.  *shudder*  I really don't get people who waste money on stupid vanity stuff.   

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« Reply #1135 on: July 25, 2019, 12:42:12 PM »
My sister and I paid for microblading for my mom when she went through cancer treatment and all her hair fell out. She wasn't bothered as much about going bald, but the loss of her eyebrows really hit her hard. I would happily spend that money again to provide her some comfort during a truly awful time.

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« Reply #1136 on: July 25, 2019, 01:24:31 PM »
My sister and I paid for microblading for my mom when she went through cancer treatment and all her hair fell out. She wasn't bothered as much about going bald, but the loss of her eyebrows really hit her hard. I would happily spend that money again to provide her some comfort during a truly awful time.
That is sweet of you and your sister

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« Reply #1137 on: July 25, 2019, 01:45:02 PM »
Absolutely! We tell our kids it is our job to raise responsible adults. And they can't learn everything they need to know 2 weeks before moving out so they better start now. For some reason the 9 year old is convinced that having to help make HIS OWN SANDWICH is a terrible punishment and no kid anywhere else ever has to do this.

I overhear a lot of conversation regarding kids at work and try to add those useful ideas into our home.

...Or unloading the dishwasher!!! Heavens!

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« Reply #1138 on: July 25, 2019, 01:53:22 PM »
My sister and I paid for microblading for my mom when she went through cancer treatment and all her hair fell out. She wasn't bothered as much about going bald, but the loss of her eyebrows really hit her hard. I would happily spend that money again to provide her some comfort during a truly awful time.
That is sweet of you and your sister

Agreed! Definitely different from rewarding yourself for dropping a few pounds, though.

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« Reply #1139 on: July 25, 2019, 01:54:21 PM »
The coworker I was talking to was also trying to lose weight, and she mentioned once she hit her target she was going to get her eyebrows microbladed. Have you guys heard of this? I had to Google it after she left, but prices range from $200 to $1000 for the initial treatment, and up to $100/mo for touch ups. Just looked at a local shop - $400 for the initial treatment, $50 touch up 6-8 weeks out. AND they offer 0% financing for six months! What a deal!

Yeah, all you have to do is google microblade fails and you will NEVER consider doing that.  *shudder*  I really don't get people who waste money on stupid vanity stuff.

Ha, I did that! Oh man, that's some pretty horrific shit right there...

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« Reply #1140 on: July 25, 2019, 04:12:07 PM »
Man.... we have maturity related alopecia of the eyebrows in my family... my mom has had basically none since she was about 50. Always has to "put on her eyebrows" before we ever go anywhere.. haha. Used to tease her about that when I was young.

Growing old is a bitch.

 I use a girly type rogaine on mine now that they are falling out too. I desperately would love microblading so I don't have to pay so much to keep my eyebrows on... but as mentioned... too many fails out there on the interwebz and I'm too scared to get it done. So now I pay $75 every month or two for a tiny tube of goo so I have eyebrows.


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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1141 on: July 26, 2019, 12:06:00 AM »
I remember my mom has done regular eyebrow tattooing (not microblading) in Asia before, and it turned out pretty well. Didn't cost very much either. Anybody interested and maybe planning travel to an Asian country should look into it. I'd imagine the skill level in places like Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and China might even be better than many places in North America.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1142 on: July 26, 2019, 06:27:01 AM »
Man.... we have maturity related alopecia of the eyebrows in my family... my mom has had basically none since she was about 50. Always has to "put on her eyebrows" before we ever go anywhere.. haha. Used to tease her about that when I was young.

Growing old is a bitch.

 I use a girly type rogaine on mine now that they are falling out too. I desperately would love microblading so I don't have to pay so much to keep my eyebrows on... but as mentioned... too many fails out there on the interwebz and I'm too scared to get it done. So now I pay $75 every month or two for a tiny tube of goo so I have eyebrows.

Yes, it is. We have the same problem in my family. My mom just wears long bangs that hide her (lack of) eyebrows, but I have curlier hair and bangs are a disaster. At 41, I still have enough hair that I can fill in with pencil; it’s my only must-wear cosmetic. I really need to look into the eyebrow goo.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1143 on: July 26, 2019, 08:39:27 AM »
My office wall is a partition (doesn't go to ceiling). I can hear my neighbor snapping her gum ALL. DAY. LONG.

Today, she's snorting back snot due to a cold, but I get a break.

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« Reply #1144 on: July 26, 2019, 09:20:29 AM »
My office wall is a partition (doesn't go to ceiling). I can hear my neighbor snapping her gum ALL. DAY. LONG.

Today, she's snorting back snot due to a cold, but I get a break.

I don't know, man, you could just quit.... Sounds better than having to hear that every day.

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« Reply #1145 on: July 26, 2019, 09:40:49 AM »
Man.... we have maturity related alopecia of the eyebrows in my family... my mom has had basically none since she was about 50. Always has to "put on her eyebrows" before we ever go anywhere.. haha. Used to tease her about that when I was young.

Growing old is a bitch.

 I use a girly type rogaine on mine now that they are falling out too. I desperately would love microblading so I don't have to pay so much to keep my eyebrows on... but as mentioned... too many fails out there on the interwebz and I'm too scared to get it done. So now I pay $75 every month or two for a tiny tube of goo so I have eyebrows.

Yes, it is. We have the same problem in my family. My mom just wears long bangs that hide her (lack of) eyebrows, but I have curlier hair and bangs are a disaster. At 41, I still have enough hair that I can fill in with pencil; it’s my only must-wear cosmetic. I really need to look into the eyebrow goo.

Sympathies with ya my eyebrowless sister.

Neubrow. It's magical. It takes about 2 weeks for results to show up, but it's legit. Take befores and afters to convince yourself.

I've been thinking of getting literal Rogaine for men or for beards or something. I bet it's the exact same thing for a quarter of the price.

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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1146 on: July 26, 2019, 09:54:12 AM »
Man.... we have maturity related alopecia of the eyebrows in my family... my mom has had basically none since she was about 50. Always has to "put on her eyebrows" before we ever go anywhere.. haha. Used to tease her about that when I was young.

Growing old is a bitch.

 I use a girly type rogaine on mine now that they are falling out too. I desperately would love microblading so I don't have to pay so much to keep my eyebrows on... but as mentioned... too many fails out there on the interwebz and I'm too scared to get it done. So now I pay $75 every month or two for a tiny tube of goo so I have eyebrows.

Yes, it is. We have the same problem in my family. My mom just wears long bangs that hide her (lack of) eyebrows, but I have curlier hair and bangs are a disaster. At 41, I still have enough hair that I can fill in with pencil; it’s my only must-wear cosmetic. I really need to look into the eyebrow goo.

I have a friend who seriously over-plucked her brows for years so that now she barely has anything, and it's taking a really long time to grow them back because the follicles are so traumatized. She uses a product like this. Just sharing it in case you haven't seen it.

http://tatbrow.com/buy?fbclid=IwAR0KWMRs8DXu81y0Arztx1UAehthzGRbOqoywipGSqfPg-4z1ncAR5hyh3w


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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1147 on: July 26, 2019, 10:30:18 AM »
My office wall is a partition (doesn't go to ceiling). I can hear my neighbor snapping her gum ALL. DAY. LONG.

Today, she's snorting back snot due to a cold, but I get a break.

I don't know, man, you could just quit.... Sounds better than having to hear that every day.

There is also sweet death. Let's not rule that out.

The other day she left her cell phone on her desk and the ringtone was full blast. It initially sounded like a gospel tune, but then went another way with the lyrics "fuck ya niggas and all ya bitches."
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Re: Overheard at Work 2
« Reply #1148 on: July 26, 2019, 11:40:19 AM »
Wait they make rogain for beards?  And it works?  Cause my knuckles aren’t as hairy as I’d like them to be and I’m tired of microblading them

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« Reply #1149 on: July 27, 2019, 05:41:11 PM »
Absolutely! We tell our kids it is our job to raise responsible adults. And they can't learn everything they need to know 2 weeks before moving out so they better start now. For some reason the 9 year old is convinced that having to help make HIS OWN SANDWICH is a terrible punishment and no kid anywhere else ever has to do this.

I overhear a lot of conversation regarding kids at work and try to add those useful ideas into our home.

...Or unloading the dishwasher!!! Heavens!

I made my kid start taking his laundry to the laundromat when he was 12. I did the laundry at the laundromat and gave it to him to put away and it just ended up on the floor for me to wash the following week. Fast forward 25 years - he now does the laundry for himself, his wife, his daughter, his MIL and GrandMIL because he thinks he does it best.