Author Topic: Nanny's Car  (Read 2575 times)

JGS1980

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Nanny's Car
« on: September 07, 2018, 09:44:15 AM »
My Nanny who lives paycheck to paycheck who I've been trying to give subtle hints in regards to the ways of MMM just completed her 3 year contract least last week....

... and then promptly leased a brand new sedan for another 3 weeks.

I pay her plenty. I believe I'm being a little too subtle. On the other hand, at least she didn't get a 15 mph SUV this time around.

Rant over,

JGS

Oh, I forgot to mention -I drive a 10 year old Honda.

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Re: Nanny's Car
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2018, 10:19:25 AM »
My Nanny who lives paycheck to paycheck who I've been trying to give subtle hints in regards to the ways of MMM just completed her 3 year contract least last week....

... and then promptly leased a brand new sedan for another 3 weeks.

I pay her plenty. I believe I'm being a little too subtle. On the other hand, at least she didn't get a 15 mph SUV this time around.

Rant over,

JGS

Oh, I forgot to mention -I drive a 10 year old Honda.

It's important to make sure your staff always has the appropriate tools to do their jobs in a safe and reliable manner. Who provides the tools is often negotiable. You can provide them directly, or you can pay your staff enough to buy and provide tools of their own choice, which they then own.

If your nanny's scope of work requires that she drive your kids to school, medical appointments, or other places, it behooves you to make sure that she has access to a safe and reliable vehicle with car seats if necessary. Some employers do this by allowing their staff access to a vehicle they own; others do it by reimbursing their staff for mileage or by building the use of the employee's vehicle into the pay structure. If that's what you've done (you indicate that you pay her "plenty") she would deduct her mileage as a business expense at tax time. If so, it shouldn't matter what kind of vehicle she has provided it's safe. She might be under the impression that she "has to" have access to a large vehicle for safety reasons, if she's using it to drive your kids to appointments. The relationship between vehicle size/expense might be a conversation worth having with her, because if she's unclear about your expectations it's up to you to correct the misunderstanding.

If your nanny's scope of work does not require her to drive your kids around, it's none of your business what she drives or how much she spends for the privilege. Not your circus; not your monkeys.

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Re: Nanny's Car
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2018, 02:36:56 PM »
lol I thought Nanny=Grandmother and was thoroughly confused by the OP :-D

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Re: Nanny's Car
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2018, 09:31:10 AM »
She gets about 35% above market rate for her services. We consciously overpay because she does an adequate job and want to avoid turnover for this job. She doesn't need to drive children around for her job.

Would I do the same job? No idea why this question is relevant to anything at all. If I had her level of education and skills, I would jump at that chance to do this job, and I'd do it well too.

Above a Nammy? What's the question? I'm not looking down on her, if that's what you mean. I treat her with respect like I would any employee. In addition, I try to help out when I can when she asks for help or advice (like when she asked my about the car purchase/lease thing).

Perhaps the tone of my rant wasn't quite right. Although is was a rant, wasn't it?

JGS

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Re: Nanny's Car
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2018, 06:20:56 PM »
I think the issue is that you're assuming there's a 'right' way to handle money, and that's following MMM, and that everyone else is just stupid/ignorant/no willpower/whatever.

Full disclosure: I follow MMM  to the tune of... 40%? of his advice? Maybe? (And, y'know, that's enough to go a long way) Because other things make me happier than what he values, and that means our spending aligns differently, and that's genuinely ok. I'm going to work longer than he is as a consequence, I'm legitimately ok with that! Example: I will never have an electric scooter or backyard office of whatever description (no matter how he justifies that he can have/need/want them). Some people here pay for restaurants more than twice a year because it's a net positive in their life: I don't. I pay for a housecleaner because it lets me work more hours without missing out on time with my kids (and so in the end I have more money and equal kid time) - I'm sure some people here would be utterly scandalized, but that seems to be key to living a life I like. The key is to take responsibility for your life, not assume you'll be working forever, align your spending with your goals, and work from there to save as much as possible to meet those goals. We all have different goals and standards, and so different means of attaining them!

In this case... is the person whining at you that they never have any money? Expecting you to make up the shortfall? Complaining that they'll never retire? Whining about emergencies that they can't cover and expecting you to make up the difference? TOTALLY makes them fair game for mockery - that's a complete lack of self-awareness and priorities that don't match spending in a really basic fashion, and then they proceed to make it your business. But someone who just asks for info, evaluates, and then proceeds to do differently because they don't want what you want? Enh. That's their life.

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Re: Nanny's Car
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2018, 07:59:05 PM »
Hence “OPs” opening salvo of ‘lives paycheck to paycheck.’ Clearly there are some stories there that OP knows, whether by observation or by being told of financial foolishness.

This is Absolutely fair game on the mmm antimustachian  wall of comedy forum, at least to report to like minded people on. Don’t know enough to say OP should be “less subtle.”
« Last Edit: September 14, 2018, 08:01:28 PM by briesas »