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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #50 on: October 26, 2020, 11:12:30 AM »
One of the local NASCAR drivers has a 35,000 sq ft home and there are a number of homes with helipads on the docks.  One of our places had a double-wide and a 10,000 sq ft home with an elevator & 4 car garage was constructed nextdoor (by a FIRE'd couple).  Most houses under 2000 sq ft are considered "tear downs" on that part of the lake. 


Lake Norman borders 4 counties, and the areas closest to Charlotte are the most expensive. 


There are still small homes & mobile homes available in the less expensive areas, on less desirable water (poor views and/or shallow water) for about $250K   

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #51 on: October 26, 2020, 11:37:24 AM »
$250,000 sounds like it'd be...bare bones!

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2020, 08:17:54 AM »
Wow - this is amazing.  What is a 5 bedroom master suite?  I would assume a master suite would be a bedroom plus an en suite bathroom and maybe a walk in closet.  But they have 5 bedrooms for their bedroom?  Makes so sense but maybe I'm just too much of a plebe.

main bedroom; reading area/study; walk in close I; walk in close II with dressing, jewelry area; bathroom.
I learned something new today!

Me too.  "Jewelry area" - wow!

Me thinking "jewelry area" is like that scene in "Coming to America" where Prince Hakeem is getting his royal jewels cleaned in a massive tub/jacuzzi. My wife would not approve of this bathroom "feature".

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2020, 08:37:59 AM »
Jewelry area means the cabinet for jewelry is built into the center of the closet, with clothing hanging assemblies all around.

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2020, 09:33:15 AM »
Jewelry area means the cabinet for jewelry is built into the center of the closet, with clothing hanging assemblies all around.

I took inventory of my total jewelry collection last night:

1 x stainless steel wedding band


Still not sure a room is necessary.

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2020, 10:28:45 AM »
I took inventory of my total jewelry collection last night:

1 x stainless steel wedding band

Still not sure a room is necessary.
LOL!  Does my IronMan watch count?  If it does, my collection is twice the size of yours!

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #56 on: October 30, 2020, 11:09:16 AM »
You people with one ring are going to be throwing it into the fire to see if writing in an evil language appears, now, aren't you?

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #57 on: October 30, 2020, 12:10:27 PM »
On a whim I tested my jewelry collection in my lunch box for storage. It rattles around too much. So, I tried a smaller container. Altoid container works pretty well but that's far too expensive. I think the right size container may be a tic-tac dispenser if I can find one for free... And no, no diamonds in my collection. Just a singular wedding ring that I never wear anyhow (dangerous in the shop).

IRL I haven't seen my wedding ring in years. I think DW has it put away with some of her things. I have a couple of ancient pocket watches that I like to look at but never carry.

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2020, 12:13:59 PM »
You people with one ring are going to be throwing it into the fire to see if writing in an evil language appears, now, aren't you?
Is Elvish evil?  (Is that what the inscription was in?  I'm not much of a LoTR fan...)

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2020, 01:10:39 PM »
Pretty sure it was in the language of Mordor.

True LOTR fans can correct me, I barely know the difference between the Noldor Elves and the Sindar Elves.

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2020, 01:13:24 PM »
Language of Mordor, written in Elvish.



You nerds. . .

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2020, 02:43:05 PM »
Language of Mordor, written in Elvish.

Is that like trying to read English language written in Devanagari script?

Because if so I'm amazed they ever figured out what the ring actually said.

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2020, 02:57:00 PM »
Sounds like these people aren't happy and tried to paper over their life dissatisfaction with spending.

I know a lot of medical professionals, and ironically, I see this type of rampant spending most among those who deep down realize that they hate the job.

Now that my husband and I found ourselves on what are well paid career tracks in a soulcrushingly materialistic place I kind of get it - you start spending like that so that you "have to" keep running after money, it gives you a more tangible sense of why you simply have to do it, even if it feels wrong.
We looked at a house today, listed at 1,35 million , a completely basic townhouse with no backyard (the green area behind it belongs to the 2-3 million house next door), it made me sick to my stomach and we once again decided that no, this is not for us, but the pressure out there is very real...I hate what and where we are professionally and we currently still have the freedom to just walk away. But we don't, mostly because anxiety and inertia keep us in. Still, it feels like a moral weakness, doesn't it.
But if I buy one of these houses...well...then I can no longer just walk away. So I can keep being miserable, but in a more socially acceptable, mainstream way.
It's first world sad, but it's sad.

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2020, 02:57:50 PM »
Language of Mordor, written in Elvish.

Is that like trying to read English language written in Devanagari script?

Because if so I'm amazed they ever figured out what the ring actually said.

When phonetics are involved its easy: you just start sounding it out and suddenly realize "Hey, I understood that!" It's those other scripts that really mess with your mind.

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2020, 04:39:25 PM »
Language of Mordor, written in Elvish.

Is that like trying to read English language written in Devanagari script?

Because if so I'm amazed they ever figured out what the ring actually said.

Couldn't tell you, I'm barely fluent in English.  :P

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2020, 08:12:38 PM »
On a whim I tested my jewelry collection in my lunch box for storage. It rattles around too much. So, I tried a smaller container. Altoid container works pretty well but that's far too expensive. I think the right size container may be a tic-tac dispenser if I can find one for free... And no, no diamonds in my collection. Just a singular wedding ring that I never wear anyhow (dangerous in the shop).

IRL I haven't seen my wedding ring in years. I think DW has it put away with some of her things. I have a couple of ancient pocket watches that I like to look at but never carry.

Been wearing mine on my dog tags for about 13 years. I'm in trouble when I retire and stop wearing them. I don't eat Altoids or Tic Tacs.

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Re: Big Income, Big Consequences
« Reply #66 on: October 31, 2020, 06:47:34 AM »
Sounds like these people aren't happy and tried to paper over their life dissatisfaction with spending.

I know a lot of medical professionals, and ironically, I see this type of rampant spending most among those who deep down realize that they hate the job.

Now that my husband and I found ourselves on what are well paid career tracks in a soulcrushingly materialistic place I kind of get it - you start spending like that so that you "have to" keep running after money, it gives you a more tangible sense of why you simply have to do it, even if it feels wrong.
We looked at a house today, listed at 1,35 million , a completely basic townhouse with no backyard (the green area behind it belongs to the 2-3 million house next door), it made me sick to my stomach and we once again decided that no, this is not for us, but the pressure out there is very real...I hate what and where we are professionally and we currently still have the freedom to just walk away. But we don't, mostly because anxiety and inertia keep us in. Still, it feels like a moral weakness, doesn't it.
But if I buy one of these houses...well...then I can no longer just walk away. So I can keep being miserable, but in a more socially acceptable, mainstream way.
It's first world sad, but it's sad.

This is exactly what mustachianism is all about, recognizing that this type of behaviour is not only incredibly toxic, but voluntary.

Don't downplay what a big deal this is.

You also hit the nail on the head of what your problem is, you see choosing not to financially prosper as much as you can as moral weakness. Meanwhile, mentally healthy people see prosperity as far more dynamic than that, they include a deep sense of moral responsibility to be happy and healthy if they have that option.

What's immoral, and frankly embarrassing, is having all the means you need available to be happy and healthy, and still choosing a path you don't enjoy because you've *decided* to primarily perceive pressure to earn and spend.

Meanwhile, that pressure is mostly in your head. It's not actually really out there, if you stopped doing what you are doing, you might get a few comments now and then for awhile, but truthfully, nobody really gives a flying fuck what you do with your career and housing choices. Honestly, it's just not that important to anyone, and people just get used to whatever you choose to do.

Seriously, no one cares beyond mild gossip. They're too busy obsessing about how their own lives are being perceived.

The real source of pressure is how you imagine people will perceive your decisions. That's where people really get stuck.

I'm not kidding, it's almost all in your head, and you have the option of confronting it instead of papering over it with purchases to try and salve the dissatisfaction.

So, if pressure is what you respond to, then let me put some pressure on you: it is a moral failing and a HUGE waste of resources to not live a healthy and happy life when you have no excuse not to.

I've given the above speech to many a young professional seeking financial advice, and it's liberated quite a few of them.