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Title: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jeromedawg on May 01, 2017, 01:12:13 PM
So apparently Hamilton is exploding all over Facebook. I haven't seen it nor am I interested...should I be?

People keep talking about how they bought tickets presumably to watch it again. Or is it that they're buying to resell? Maybe they're buying for friends I don't know... but I have seen comments here and there along the lines of "just got my tix! this will be the fourth time!!!" --- I just don't get the hype. These are $400+ per seat tickets btw.

The only thing that potentially interests me is trying to find tickets and the flip them for more on Craigslist, etc...

EDIT: it seems like here in LA, they're running the show through December. Obviously weekend prices are probably around the $400+ range. If you want the cheaper $100+ tickets you'll have to go during the weekdays.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Al1961 on May 01, 2017, 01:51:30 PM
WTF is a Hamilton?

Seriously. I have no idea.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: onehair on May 01, 2017, 01:54:51 PM
One of the best musicals ever! I wish I could afford to see it live once...
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Al1961 on May 01, 2017, 02:17:38 PM
One of the best musicals ever! I wish I could afford to see it live once...

Thanks.

Now I know why I've never heard of it. NOT in to musicals.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Just Joe on May 01, 2017, 02:31:27 PM
For the frugal folks - give it time. it'll be on regional and local stages someday. Or TV... I'd love to see it but not at $400 a head.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jeromedawg on May 01, 2017, 02:36:40 PM
For the frugal folks - give it time. it'll be on regional and local stages someday. Or TV... I'd love to see it but not at $400 a head.

$400 a head and MULTIPLE times. That just boggles my mind... unless they're getting discount tickets or something.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jorjor on May 01, 2017, 03:01:57 PM
For the frugal folks - give it time. it'll be on regional and local stages someday. Or TV... I'd love to see it but not at $400 a head.

They're touring and will be here early next year. People are buying full year ticket membership packages filled with shows they have no interest in seeing because that package also includes Hamilton tickets.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jeromedawg on May 01, 2017, 03:08:15 PM
For the frugal folks - give it time. it'll be on regional and local stages someday. Or TV... I'd love to see it but not at $400 a head.

They're touring and will be here early next year. People are buying full year ticket membership packages filled with shows they have no interest in seeing because that package also includes Hamilton tickets.

Is it possible to flip tickets from membership? That's the *only* thing I'd ever consider before buying something like that hahaha.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: BlueHouse on May 01, 2017, 03:10:18 PM
For the frugal folks, I highly recommend the PBS documentary "Hamilton's America".  Go to PBS.org, sign up to be a member (free), then watch the documentary.  It follows the show's creator during the time of the writing, shows cast members visiting historical places and touching historic artifacts associated with our Founding Fathers, and shows snips from many of the numbers in the Broadway play. 

I've watched that documentary 3 times and I can definitely understand the passion.  I learned so much about why certain songs are sung as they are or about people I never even knew existed but that were important to our country's development. 

For instance:   T. Jefferson isn't in the first half of the show, as he's off in France.  When he returns, his first song "What did I miss"? is more of a Jazz style (while everyone else is rapping), because he's been out of the country so long.  It takes him a while, but he catches up.

I had no idea that so much thought and creativity went into creating art, but it is absolutely fantastic mix of music, dance, history. 

I also bought the CDs for $15 of the complete soundtrack and I listen to it all the time at my desk.  Love it!

PLEASE watch this 2 minute intro.  Fantastic!
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/hamiltons-america-documentary/5048/ (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/hamiltons-america-documentary/5048/)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: MgoSam on May 01, 2017, 03:22:33 PM
For the frugal folks - give it time. it'll be on regional and local stages someday. Or TV... I'd love to see it but not at $400 a head.

They're touring and will be here early next year. People are buying full year ticket membership packages filled with shows they have no interest in seeing because that package also includes Hamilton tickets.

Is it possible to flip tickets from membership? That's the *only* thing I'd ever consider before buying something like that hahaha.

Yes it happens. I saw that Hamilton was going to be performing when I would be in Chicago and called to try to get tickets and they are sold out of course. So I went to see what secondary markets are listing them for (out of curiosity, I'm happy to wait until I can get tickets) like 3 to 4 times the original price. I imagine if the season had 5 shows and so you bought 2 tickets to each, if you sell the 2 for Hamilton for 4x then you can see the remaining 4 shows for the price of one.

For some of us that enjoy musicals it can be worthwhile to spend $50-$100 for a ticket so long as it isn't a common occurrence. I have season tickets to the MN Opera, though I get it through a young adult's program that offers us heavily discounted tickets. I don't know if I will pay full price when I turn 40 and am no longer eligible for the program.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: I'm a red panda on May 01, 2017, 03:30:14 PM
For the frugal folks - give it time. it'll be on regional and local stages someday. Or TV... I'd love to see it but not at $400 a head.

They're touring and will be here early next year. People are buying full year ticket membership packages filled with shows they have no interest in seeing because that package also includes Hamilton tickets.

Is it possible to flip tickets from membership? That's the *only* thing I'd ever consider before buying something like that hahaha.

Probably not for a profit...there will be a lit of tickets available to other shows. In many places Hamilton will only be available for subscribers.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jeromedawg on May 01, 2017, 04:04:28 PM
For the frugal folks - give it time. it'll be on regional and local stages someday. Or TV... I'd love to see it but not at $400 a head.

They're touring and will be here early next year. People are buying full year ticket membership packages filled with shows they have no interest in seeing because that package also includes Hamilton tickets.

Is it possible to flip tickets from membership? That's the *only* thing I'd ever consider before buying something like that hahaha.

Yes it happens. I saw that Hamilton was going to be performing when I would be in Chicago and called to try to get tickets and they are sold out of course. So I went to see what secondary markets are listing them for (out of curiosity, I'm happy to wait until I can get tickets) like 3 to 4 times the original price. I imagine if the season had 5 shows and so you bought 2 tickets to each, if you sell the 2 for Hamilton for 4x then you can see the remaining 4 shows for the price of one.

For some of us that enjoy musicals it can be worthwhile to spend $50-$100 for a ticket so long as it isn't a common occurrence. I have season tickets to the MN Opera, though I get it through a young adult's program that offers us heavily discounted tickets. I don't know if I will pay full price when I turn 40 and am no longer eligible for the program.

I just read the rules for buying season passes for the Pantages. They basically state that if they suspect that you're buying tix for resale, they reserve the right to cancel and void the tickets. Still, I'm not sure if tickets are transferable or if you have to show ID and have the ID match your tickets/pass, etc. I could see them banning ppl/canceling tickets if they catch the same person buying multiple season passes and reselling but if there's no name on the tickets or the ticket scanners don't care, then yea it could be profitable perhaps. I guess if you *really* want to see Hamilton on the weekend then it might be worth buying extras and flipping them so you can see it for free? I'd probably just buy to flip, but even then I'm not sure it's worth my time - especially as it's something that doesn't interest me.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Mezzie on May 02, 2017, 05:17:38 AM
I have an alarm set on my phone for the second the tickets go on sale here. :)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dave1442397 on May 02, 2017, 06:57:55 AM
My daughter's crazy about Hamilton. She has the soundtrack memorized, and has watched a recording of the show (somebody's shaky camera phone) a few times.

I looked into ticket prices for when it comes to Philadelphia, and it's not happening. She may move on to some other obsession by the time it gets here, so I'm not that concerned about her missing out on seeing it live.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: zhelud on May 02, 2017, 08:26:06 AM
I have listened to the original cast recording of Hamilton so many times that I'm afraid I would be disappointed to go see it either in NY with the new cast or in any of the productions in other cities.  Hard to believe that anyone could sing "Satisfied" or "Wait for It" better than Renee Goldsberry or Leslie Odom Jr!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: BlueHouse on May 02, 2017, 08:53:47 AM
I have listened to the original cast recording of Hamilton so many times that I'm afraid I would be disappointed to go see it either in NY with the new cast or in any of the productions in other cities.  Hard to believe that anyone could sing "Satisfied" or "Wait for It" better than Renee Goldsberry or Leslie Odom Jr!
Every time I listen I get more out of it.  It's the best soundtrack I've ever bought!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on May 02, 2017, 03:09:22 PM
Gosh, it's a lot of money. Imagine bringing your family to a performance, or...Making one month Roth contributions.

But indeed it's a great musical! I suppose you can avoid face punches from me if you make enough other sacrifices in your life to have that savings rate stay high.

those lower ticket prices are coming, the market doesn't discriminate, it just takes, and it takes, and it takes, and we keep seeing (Hamilton) anyway...you have to wait for it!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: BlueHouse on May 02, 2017, 03:36:47 PM
those lower ticket prices are coming, the market doesn't discriminate, it just takes, and it takes, and it takes, and we keep seeing (Hamilton) anyway...you have to wait for it!

I'm not going to throw away my shot ...I'll try to get tickets as soon as I can (in my town...I won't travel for it)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: secondcor521 on May 02, 2017, 03:54:20 PM
I took my daughter to NYC to see it this past spring break.  I have a thing with my kids where I do "special trips" and this was one of hers.

If you want tickets relatively cheaply, what I would recommend is buying them from the original theatre's distributors and buying them six months in advance.  In October when I was originally planning our trip, I had thought about doing the trip at Christmastime, but the seats were all sold and scalpers wanted $1K-$5K per ticket - not happening.  But we could get good tickets for $350 per ticket for March - so that's what we did.

Still expensive, but doable for a special trip where the plane tickets and hotels were paid for with miles and points.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: MgoSam on May 02, 2017, 07:01:23 PM
those lower ticket prices are coming, the market doesn't discriminate, it just takes, and it takes, and it takes, and we keep seeing (Hamilton) anyway...you have to wait for it!

I'm not going to throw away my shot ...I'll try to get tickets as soon as I can (in my town...I won't travel for it)

Obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK4Wk_8PbcI
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: MrsPete on May 07, 2017, 07:55:27 AM
My high school students are INSANE for this show.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: BlueHouse on May 07, 2017, 09:24:42 AM
My high school students are INSANE for this show.
How great is that?!?  Aside from great music, acting, and dancing, they're learning a lot about the birth of our nation.  Granted, there are some lessons to be reviewed for accuracy, but there's a starting point that so many people wouldn't know otherwise. 
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: SimpleCycle on May 07, 2017, 10:16:37 PM
Hamilton is 1000% genius.  I spent way too much money to see it, but I think one live performance is enough.

Aside from the brilliance of the writing, I think the most interesting point it makes is who owns the story of history, who gets to tell that story, and how.  I was thinking about that one performance for months after I saw it.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Scandium on May 08, 2017, 08:08:57 AM
One of the best musicals ever!

Not saying much, pretty low bar.. 
I listened to one song on youtube now. I'd pay $400 to not have to listen to that for 2 hrs!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on May 08, 2017, 08:40:24 AM
Note: some of the history is inaccurate. The Hamilton-Burr duel was provoked by Burr's unsuccessful race for Governor of NY in 1804.

More interestingly, Angelica Schuyler was already married by the time Hamilton met her.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: visionnaire on May 09, 2017, 02:22:03 PM
Many theater companies rely on volunteer ushers. As an usher, you get to see the show for free and usually only have to commit to one or two shifts per month. It's a great date night and an easy way to support the arts with your service.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Just Joe on May 10, 2017, 07:49:43 AM
Many theater companies rely on volunteer ushers. As an usher, you get to see the show for free and usually only have to commit to one or two shifts per month. It's a great date night and an easy way to support the arts with your service.

My DW does this occasionally. Our eldest child too.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on May 15, 2017, 10:07:56 AM
Posting so I can find this again. I just wrote a frugal Hamilton story in my journal and I'm going to attempt to cross-post. Wish me luck!

ETA: I did It! This is wordy, but I promise you it contains frugally gotten Hamilton tickets. I dug up this thread so I can follow the helpful tips y'all have provided to maximize our enjoyment of the show. There's no way we're going to see this twice, let alone four times.

Oh, and it might be helpful for me to mention DH's mother has Alzheimer's, which we discovered when his dad died three weeks after we got married. She lives with us now, in a ridiculously beautiful clown house we bought because neither of our pre-wedding houses was suitable for her needs. I haven't gotten to the house story in my journal yet, but I will, eventually. It even has a somewhat frugal angle, for a HCOLA.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

When I married DH, he owned both an RV and a pair of jet skis. It was a mental red flag, but I knew he had no debt, so I wasn't too worried. When we bought our clown house and moved his mother in with us, we parked the RV in the driveway. The jet skis went over to his brother's house. We were so busy merging households and getting his mom's affairs in order that we didn't have time to use the RV, but it came in very handy when we had visitors. Until the rainy morning when we discovered his mom outside in her bathrobe, pounding on the RV door, demanding that our guest get out of "her" RV. We took one last trip, then DH sold the trusty rig to a friend of his brother's for almost what he'd paid for it a decade earlier.

I kind of forgot about the jet skis, except when registration time rolled around. I finally asked DH about them. He told me he had inherited them from his first wife's father. DH used to pull them with the RV so he could go fishing while family camping. By this time, I knew without asking that he hadn't taken out a loan and purchased them new, lol. I figured they had sentimental value (DH is a widower), so I didn't give them another thought.

Recently, DH brought the jet skis home from his brother's. Over the last few weeks, he has cleaned them, tuned them up, and done his CraigsList research. Early Saturday afternoon, he posted them on CL for $2k. He had a call within 15 minutes. By the the first caller got here he'd had two more calls. Then, while the potential buyer was checking them out, DH's phone was blowing up with calls, so he came in the house and pulled the CL ad. This created quite a sense of urgency and the first buyer took the jet skis with no haggling. Boom. One hour after posting, the deal was done, jet skis gone, cash in hand.

Today (Sunday), DH was in the garage, taking pictures of something that looked like a part of the jet ski paraphernalia.  When I asked him about it, he said it was a winch he'd ordered for the jet skis. I asked him why he hadn't included it in yesterday's deal. Seems he'd ordered two on line and the company had double shipped them. When he contacted the company, they said they were so heavy it wasn't worth the return freight. On Saturday, he decided to hang onto the last spare and sell it separately. An hour later, he had another $25 in his pocket. What a guy!

Tonight, I checked NextDoor just before going to bed. Someone was offering Hamilton tickets for face value!!! That's $375 each, still a fortune to this mustachian. Three people had asked for the tickets, but it looked like they weren't sold yet. After a quick chat with DH, I messaged the seller and mentioned that I had cash in hand. She called me right back and I'm picking the tickets up in the morning. As you may know (there's a whole thread on the subject), Hamilton tickets are so hard to get that they're selling for way over face value. Much as I wanted to see the show, I knew my frugal soul could not bear to pay those prices.

And that, my friends is the story of how we're going to see Hamilton for "free" on Friday! The sale of the winch will cover the cost of our BART fares. I'm even thinking of using points to spend the night in the City in a fancy hotel afterwards. And the rest of the jet ski money? Don't need anything. We'll just squirrel it away. 
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: boy_bye on May 15, 2017, 10:19:17 AM
I paid $350 for a nosebleed seat to see the original cast in NYC. Worth every penny!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: WhiteTrashCash on May 15, 2017, 02:58:55 PM
I was gifted tickets to see Hamilton and it was fucking awesome. It appeals to absolutely everybody because it's an intensely patriotic musical yet it's also really multicultural. And the songs are amazing. It's worth every penny.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: MandalayVA on May 15, 2017, 03:18:52 PM
I have listened to the original cast recording of Hamilton so many times that I'm afraid I would be disappointed to go see it either in NY with the new cast or in any of the productions in other cities.  Hard to believe that anyone could sing "Satisfied" or "Wait for It" better than Renee Goldsberry or Leslie Odom Jr!

I wouldn't worry about it.  Friends of mine who have also been abusing the OCR just saw it in San Francisco and Chicago respectively and they loved it.  The closest it'll come to me is Atlanta next year.  I might.  :D 
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Stachetastic on May 16, 2017, 05:49:27 AM
I love musicals, but this cost is a bit steep for me. However, I will note that so many posts about spending money around here that are justified tend to be travel-related. Travel seems to be the one splurge that mustachians agree is worth the spend. I see no difference between spending $400 on a weekend away vs. the same amount on an evening out. It's just about what's important to you--but they can both be valuable experiences.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: StarBright on May 16, 2017, 07:11:37 AM
Aside from the brilliance of the writing, I think the most interesting point it makes is who owns the story of history, who gets to tell that story, and how.  I was thinking about that one performance for months after I saw it.

+ a million.

also, small tangent- @MgoSam, I think it is amazing MN opera offers discounted young adult prices; what an awesome idea! We have lots of friends who go on and on about "classical music is dying" because no one in their 20s and 30s attends - but I always point out that it is really difficult to swing a night at the opera or symphony for young working adults (and especially those that have children). We have season tickets to our local opera company and when you take a babysitter into account it usually costs us about 200 bucks every time we go. If we spend money on the opera it means we can't afford to attend the symphony or the ballet - if companies offered discounted tickets we might be able to support multiple institutions.

Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on May 16, 2017, 08:55:54 AM
OMG, we watched the Hamilton Documentary last night and then a bunch of stuff on You Tube. I think my head is going to explode! These tickets were fuck-all expensive and I really didn't think we were going to see it. Now that we are, I am beside myself with excitement. It's going to be a fun week learning as much as we can before we go.

Fun sidebar: A friend of mine is not employed at present. She has been entering the Hamilton Lottery every day since it began. Her number was drawn and she's going tonight for only $10.00! I'm excited for her, too!

Now I'm thinking of playing the HL, too. I'm pretty sure I'd enjoy seeing it again, but no way am I going to pay full price more than once in this lifetime
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on May 16, 2017, 09:03:27 AM
So I was driving the kids to school this morning and we listened to "Work". each of us picked a Schuyler sister, with my two-year-old son being assigned Peggy. If he could marry a Schuyler, he'll be rich enough that I won't have to fool with any of this mustachian stuff anymore :-)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: secondcor521 on May 16, 2017, 09:21:20 AM
For those who are going to see Hamilton in NYC, I'd just point out that Alexander Hamilton is buried in the graveyard at Trinity Church, a few miles south of where the play is performed.  Also, the dueling pistols used in the Burr-Hamilton duel are located in a Chase bank branch only a few blocks east of the theater.  If I had it to do over again I'd make a point to see those two places.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: boy_bye on May 16, 2017, 10:32:09 AM
For those who are going to see Hamilton in NYC, I'd just point out that Alexander Hamilton is buried in the graveyard at Trinity Church, a few miles south of where the play is performed.  Also, the dueling pistols used in the Burr-Hamilton duel are located in a Chase bank branch only a few blocks east of the theater.  If I had it to do over again I'd make a point to see those two places.

That was one of my favorite parts of getting into Hamilton -- I was staying in NYC for a month when the OBC recording came out and I started listening to it everyday while walking around Brooklyn and I honestly never realized how much of the Revolution had taken place in NYC before! For those who haven't found them yet, check out the Ham4Ham videos on YouTube. I was there in person for a few of them, most notably the "Guns and Ships singalong" on 10/10/15, the day I saw the show.

Also, I love that this thread started out with people snarking about Hamilton and has been taken over by raves about it. Such is the power of great art!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on May 17, 2017, 06:18:50 PM
Oh, wow, here's the most mustachian Hamilton Story ever. The friend I mentioned up thread went to Hamilton last night, expecting nosebleed seats. They got all dressed up anyway. Something worked because their seats were Orchestra, Row 2, 3rd & 4th seats from the center aisle. For TEN BUCKS!!!

I had her take photos of her tickets so I could make sure mine were legit, so I saw it with my own [four] eyes! Happy to report they look just like our tickets. I'm even happier to report that our tickets are center section seats as well, which is better than I thought they were. Also, the theater is still selling random seats to Friday's performance, all of which, even the nosebleed seats, are going for more than I paid, plus service fees, woo-hoo!

Finally, in related mustachian news (but nowhere near as good as my friend's story), DH and I both have IHG Rewards Credit Cards, which means we get two free nights a year. There's a Holiday Inn directly across the street from the theater and the Bart Station! The best available room rate with tax would have been almost $200. Our cost will be zero. Well, technically, you could say it's $49, which is the annual fee on the card, which is still a helluva deal for a weekend night in San Francisco. We could have "saved" even more by staying at the new-ish InterContinental SF, which also had rooms available. However, Hamilton is a long show and the area around the theater is pretty dodgy, so we decided to save that freebie for another time. The InterContinental The Clement in Monterey, CA has lovely rooms with fireplaces overlooking the ocean...

Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jeromedawg on May 23, 2017, 11:01:40 AM
Also, I love that this thread started out with people snarking about Hamilton and has been taken over by raves about it. Such is the power of great art!

I originally posted more out of curiosity and "awe" that people are spending pretty exorbitant amounts of money to watch the show, and especially those who are watching it *multiple* times. I've spent maybe $120ish on concert tickets to a John Mayer years ago and that was the most I've probably ever spent on any live show. Spending upwards of $400 on a broadway show (and multiple times) is shocking to me though - maybe that's the 'norm' though?  It seems the hype might be dying down, and thus ticket prices, so once it finally gets back to something I'd be willing to pay (maybe $50 max), I'd be more interested and willing to check it out.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jeromedawg on May 23, 2017, 11:05:24 AM
Oh, wow, here's the most mustachian Hamilton Story ever. The friend I mentioned up thread went to Hamilton last night, expecting nosebleed seats. They got all dressed up anyway. Something worked because their seats were Orchestra, Row 2, 3rd & 4th seats from the center aisle. For TEN BUCKS!!!

I had her take photos of her tickets so I could make sure mine were legit, so I saw it with my own [four] eyes! Happy to report they look just like our tickets. I'm even happier to report that our tickets are center section seats as well, which is better than I thought they were. Also, the theater is still selling random seats to Friday's performance, all of which, even the nosebleed seats, are going for more than I paid, plus service fees, woo-hoo!

Finally, in related mustachian news (but nowhere near as good as my friend's story), DH and I both have IHG Rewards Credit Cards, which means we get two free nights a year. There's a Holiday Inn directly across the street from the theater and the Bart Station! The best available room rate with tax would have been almost $200. Our cost will be zero. Well, technically, you could say it's $49, which is the annual fee on the card, which is still a helluva deal for a weekend night in San Francisco. We could have "saved" even more by staying at the new-ish InterContinental SF, which also had rooms available. However, Hamilton is a long show and the area around the theater is pretty dodgy, so we decided to save that freebie for another time. The InterContinental The Clement in Monterey, CA has lovely rooms with fireplaces overlooking the ocean...

Wow, that sounds like a bargain! I'd probably definitely watch it for $10 LOL. Where was this btw?

I have an IHG card as well and it is useful for a quick getawaway/vacation or at least subsidizing a multi-day stay. I think it's worth the $49 assuming you stay at an IHG-branded hotel at least one night out of the year.... doesn't seem too unreasonable to me especially if you stay at an IC, Crowne Plaza or more expensive Holiday Inn location. We've stayed at the IC Clement two times now and love how close it is to the aquarium. Yea, parking for $30 a night stinks, but that's an $80 stay at an *easily* $200+ room per night hotel.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: MgoSam on May 23, 2017, 11:35:50 AM
Also, I love that this thread started out with people snarking about Hamilton and has been taken over by raves about it. Such is the power of great art!

I originally posted more out of curiosity and "awe" that people are spending pretty exorbitant amounts of money to watch the show, and especially those who are watching it *multiple* times. I've spent maybe $120ish on concert tickets to a John Mayer years ago and that was the most I've probably ever spent on any live show. Spending upwards of $400 on a broadway show (and multiple times) is shocking to me though - maybe that's the 'norm' though?  It seems the hype might be dying down, and thus ticket prices, so once it finally gets back to something I'd be willing to pay (maybe $50 max), I'd be more interested and willing to check it out.

You're probably going to be waiting for quite a long time for $50 tickets to the Broadway show. As a reference, I look into getting Book of Mormon tickets 2 years ago when the traveling company was in Minneapolis and the cheapest I could find were $55/each, and while I've heard nothing but great things about Book of Mormon, I believe Hamilton to have a significantly higher demand.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jeromedawg on May 23, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
Also, I love that this thread started out with people snarking about Hamilton and has been taken over by raves about it. Such is the power of great art!

I originally posted more out of curiosity and "awe" that people are spending pretty exorbitant amounts of money to watch the show, and especially those who are watching it *multiple* times. I've spent maybe $120ish on concert tickets to a John Mayer years ago and that was the most I've probably ever spent on any live show. Spending upwards of $400 on a broadway show (and multiple times) is shocking to me though - maybe that's the 'norm' though?  It seems the hype might be dying down, and thus ticket prices, so once it finally gets back to something I'd be willing to pay (maybe $50 max), I'd be more interested and willing to check it out.

You're probably going to be waiting for quite a long time for $50 tickets to the Broadway show. As a reference, I look into getting Book of Mormon tickets 2 years ago when the traveling company was in Minneapolis and the cheapest I could find were $55/each, and while I've heard nothing but great things about Book of Mormon, I believe Hamilton to have a significantly higher demand.

I guess I'm just not in the know (and rightly so, as I've never been into broadway shows) - https://www.nyfa.edu/student-resources/broadway-tickets-expensive/

Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: boy_bye on May 23, 2017, 12:38:30 PM
Oh, wow, here's the most mustachian Hamilton Story ever. The friend I mentioned up thread went to Hamilton last night, expecting nosebleed seats. They got all dressed up anyway. Something worked because their seats were Orchestra, Row 2, 3rd & 4th seats from the center aisle. For TEN BUCKS!!!

Wow, that sounds like a bargain! I'd probably definitely watch it for $10 LOL. Where was this btw?

All of the Hamilton productions have lotteries for the first row or two of seats. The idea is that folks can see Hamilton for a Hamilton -- it's meant to get the artists and lower-income folks who would really ADORE to see the show into the show, not just the standard Broadway show crowd. 

I know when I went to see it I saw several old white people complaining about how long it was and how they couldn't understand what was happening, meanwhile there were literally thousands of people on the street outside who would have given anything to get in. The lottery was meant to at least partially address that discrepancy.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: BlueHouse on May 23, 2017, 02:07:18 PM

I know when I went to see it I saw several old white people complaining about how long it was and how they couldn't understand what was happening,...
I watched the PBS documentary with my elderly mother...she asked if Aaron Burr was really black. 

I swear, she is not a stupid woman.  But age makes you a little bit crazy.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: wordnerd on May 23, 2017, 02:10:33 PM
Love Hamilton. Bought the soundtrack for $20 and listened to it in the car for months. Definitely money well-spent. Probably won't see it live ever unless costs come way down.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: boy_bye on May 23, 2017, 02:17:31 PM

I know when I went to see it I saw several old white people complaining about how long it was and how they couldn't understand what was happening,...
I watched the PBS documentary with my elderly mother...she asked if Aaron Burr was really black. 

I swear, she is not a stupid woman.  But age makes you a little bit crazy.

:D :D :D

That's hilarious! And I get it -- the rap goes by you quickly and if your ears don't have any experience listening to that kind of music I can imagine it's tricky to pick it all up.

I mostly just thought it was wild to have so many ambivalent people in the room where it had happened (heh) and so many more people outside clamoring to get in.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on May 23, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
Okay, I lifted this from my journal. It's the first half of my Hamilton Story. It's long, so if you really want part 2, it's in my journal at the bottom of page 4. There' a link in my siggy line, as Sailor Sam says. We saw the show on Friday, and I wrote this on Sunday.

Okay it's time for a Hamilton Weekend Adventure update, but first I have to tell you where I am, because this is surreal.

As I mentioned above (or another thread?), a dear friend got a cancer diagnosis about the same time her mechanic informed her that her trusty 1997 Volvo was terminal. Ever the optimist, she says she's glad it's the car that's terminal and not her. So today we are at a freaking Toyota Dealership, helping her negotiate for a brand-new Camry via the Costco Car Buying Program. Crazy!

Okay, back to Hamilton. DH gets off work early on Fridays. His son dropped us off at BART. By 4:00 we were on the platform, $10.50 round trip tickets to San Francisco in hand. Less than an hour later, we were in the City. We stayed at the Holiday Inn a block from the theater, using one of our annual free nights. We walked from BART, checked in, dumped our day pack and then cruised around the Tenderloin. I used to work in a little nicer part of the City, so I'd kind of forgotten how um, gritty, parts of it are, and the soaring economy and housing squeeze have not been kind to many, many people. Sad. Felt very weird to be spending so much money to basically be entertained when there is so much need everywhere.*

We enjoyed the amazing (for SF) weather and checked out a couple of places I'd found on Yelp and ended up at a casual Mediterranean restaurant. We had a filling meal (not without pangs of guilt) for $31.00. Then we ambled lazily back to our hotel to, um, freshen up. Speaking of the hotel, our room was on the 14th floor, and we could see the entrance of the Orpheum Theater from our room! It was so cool to see the crowds swell and then flow into the theater. We made our way there and were relieved that our tickets were genuine.

The show, the show. Amazing! We had gorged on YouTube videos all week, so we knew the story arc and the songs. We were also aware that we would be seeing a touring cast. Yeah, didn't matter. Every actor blew it out of the water. The 2,203 member audience was completely into every moment of the show. The energy in the audience was an experience unto itself. The big numbers brought thunderous applause, and of course, there was a huge standing ovation three hours later. When the show ended after 11:00, we were wiped out. It was a thrill to know our hotel was just a few steps away.

The next morning, we started reading the reviews on line, because we wanted to learn about other people's experiences and opinions. There was this quibble and that quibble, but I have to say that none of that mattered. Maybe this actor was a slightly stronger singer than that actor, or some other rapper has catcher beats (WTF?), but none of that made any difference. The story is so complete that the details are just that. The story of Alexamder Hamilton is everything. Love, loss, making something of one's self, despite less than humble beginnings, fighting for ideals, suffering for the cause and the good of all, the role of the press, and even OMY. This is a only a partial list. Man, there are so many themes packed into the stories of these lives! Interesting how we struggle with many of the same issues today.

The color blindness of the casting was superb. I loved that the actresses playing the Schuyler Sisters were clearly not related. It didn't matter one bit. My bumbling words cannot do justice to everything that is Hamilton, except to say that it is the story that is so compelling. It was so worth the effort and expenditure, because the story still matters, all these years later. Oh, yes, I'll be looking for a copy of Ron Chernow's Hamilton for $1.00 at our next book sale. I long to know more of our country's history and about these lives in particular.

Saturday was an exceptionally beautiful day in sunny SF. We weren't particularly hungry, so we packed up at a leisurely pace (wink), then headed out for a walk in the area. We toured the beautiful SF Main Library. DH had never been, and I hadn't been in at least a decade. The most striking thing is the respect that is extended to all. There are signs everywhere that say "All Are Welcome Here", in at least five languages. The place has held up amazingly well, considering the demands the citizens of the City place on it. There were beautiful exhibits, lovely public art, beautiful books, reading nooks, and helpful staff everywhere.

We started at the top of the building and leisurely made our way through anything and everything that was accessible to the public. We noticed a guy with a couple of sandwiches in his hand. A little later, we looked out a window and noticed the Salvation Army distributing sandwiches and beverages to all comers.

[Remember that I'm writing this from a New Car Dealership? DH is helping my friend with the process and I'm hanging out in their cavernous lobby. I'm only here for moral support. They're playing a nice mix of contemporary music, including numbers from Hamilton. Goosebumps. Feels. So many feels. Some tears. Oy!]

On Saturday, when we got hungry, I noticed a Starbucks across from the library. I have a Bucky's Gold Card. (I've posted why elsewhere. Short version, I don't have a SB habit, but my walking partner does. I might as well play the game, right?) I was pretty sure I had some free stuff on it. Yup, lunch for 2, and 2 ice waters, cost zero dollars OOP. Then we wandered down to Nordstrom at 5th and Market, where I used to work a lifetime ago. We had fun wandering through the store, noticing the changes, talking to people, and buying nothing. We had a commitment on Saturday evening (games with friends!), so we hopped on BART at about 2:00 and had an interesting ride home. World class people watching on trains to and from SF. The station is about a mile from home, so we just walked. We took a shortcut through the Elementary School and we'e tickled to discover they were having a school carnival. Happy children everywhere!

As you can see this adventure was full of fun, semi-frugality, drama, music, conflict and turmoil. Amid all of that I am appreciative of the valuable life skill of finding joy wherever it presents itself. Life is hard for many, then as well as now. If anything, my gratitude muscles have been given quite a workout. I am happy I have them. I am also aware of how easily I developed them, given the chances I've had in life. I can't help the circumstances of my birth. I can only do the best I can with my own life's story, be kind to others, and try never to take anything for granted.

So that's my Hamilton Story. As this show is playing in major urban centers across the country, if you see it (or have seen it), you may notice the same things around the theater.

* I know there's a dangling asterisk up there somewhere, but I need to sign off as my battery is dying and I don't want to lose these words.

For now, I'll add that the words of Eliza in the penultimate number really resonated with me,

"And when my time is up,
Have I done enough?
Will they tell my story?"

The chorus responds "Who lives, who dies, who tells your story?"

And that's where I must leave my story for now. Thanks for coming along.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: golden1 on May 23, 2017, 06:38:07 PM
I went through my Hamilton obsession phase when I first heard the soundtrack, but can't pull the trigger on tickets for the prices they are going for.  If I lived inNYC I'd do the lottery.  It's coming to Boston soon but it's a limited run unfortunately and tickets are tied to a season pass that costs too much for theatre I don't have time to see.  Sucks.  I loved the documentary though. 
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on May 23, 2017, 11:35:01 PM
I went through my Hamilton obsession phase when I first heard the soundtrack, but can't pull the trigger on tickets for the prices they are going for.  If I lived inNYC I'd do the lottery.  It's coming to Boston soon but it's a limited run unfortunately and tickets are tied to a season pass that costs too much for theatre I don't have time to see.  Sucks.  I loved the documentary though.
People buy the season tickets and any extra Hamilton tickets they are permitted to. They sell the ones they don't want/can't use and occasionally make a handsome profit. Or, they complain and do nothing. The world is full of choices.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jeromedawg on May 24, 2017, 09:18:05 AM
I went through my Hamilton obsession phase when I first heard the soundtrack, but can't pull the trigger on tickets for the prices they are going for.  If I lived inNYC I'd do the lottery.  It's coming to Boston soon but it's a limited run unfortunately and tickets are tied to a season pass that costs too much for theatre I don't have time to see.  Sucks.  I loved the documentary though.
People buy the season tickets and any extra Hamilton tickets they are permitted to. They sell the ones they don't want/can't use and occasionally make a handsome profit. Or, they complain and do nothing. The world is full of choices.

This is what my brother does with Warriors season passes, except that has been a little more predictable these past several years since they've been making the playoffs. I'm pretty sure he's made profit on his season passes OR they're heavily subsidized from all the games he has likely resold for his seats.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Chris22 on May 24, 2017, 09:52:01 AM
My sister is coming into town for something else, and texted me she and her husband are going to see Hamilton while they're here, would we like to join them.  So we said sure.  Tickets are expensive but not absurd; $270/ea for okay seats.  We were planning to attend a concert this summer for nearly that amount anyways, we decided to just do this instead.  Will see how it is in September. 
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: o2bfree on May 24, 2017, 10:37:14 AM
Holy crap, tickets in the Seattle area can run $500 to nearly $1200 each!!

I saw Jersey Boys when I won tickets at an office Christmas party. It was good, but I wouldn't have paid $120 each to see it. Hamilton must be incredible. I'll be looking up that documentary to watch, for sure.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on July 29, 2017, 02:24:43 PM
Reviving this thread with a question. Does anyone have a link to the PBS Hamilton Documentary?  I believe it was published somewhere on the forum and I'd love to watch it again, but I'm having no luck finding it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: BlueHouse on July 29, 2017, 02:38:42 PM
Reviving this thread with a question. Does anyone have a link to the PBS Hamilton Documentary?  I believe it was published somewhere on the forum and I'd love to watch it again, but I'm having no luck finding it. Thanks!
http://www.pbs.org/video/2365870668/
I think the membership is free but I'm not sure
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on July 29, 2017, 11:53:00 PM
Thanks, BlueHouse. I believe someone posted the actual link previously, which is what I'm still hoping to find.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on July 31, 2017, 07:56:31 AM
My daughter was asking me who Angelica married (John Barker Church).

While he does not have the accomplishment of designing the financial system of the most powerful economy in the world, he actually appears to have been interesting in his own right (if you believe his wikipedia page), including spending six years as an elected member of Parliament.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: cavewoman on August 08, 2017, 07:28:49 AM
I haven't looked into seeing Hamilton yet near me, but I'd definitely enter that lottery that others are mentioning!  Which reminds me...

When I was in high school, the musical to see was RENT.  I was heavy into choir and whatnot so we were all obsessed.  When it came to our town, my lovely, frugal-by-necessity and then by choice single father took a morning off work to wait in line for the $20 front row seats (similar to the program someone else mentioned).  We were front row just off center, and I loved every minute of it (and my Dad, extra, for doing it for me... couldn't have been easy to sit next to 15 year old me in such a... mature... show, lol).

I also realllllly want to see the Aladdin production, but we don't have a line in YNAB for pricey musicals (yet!)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: SeaEhm on August 08, 2017, 09:01:38 AM
Read the thread and all I can leave with is...


Why don't people make a Game of Thrones:Musical Edition
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: TheGrimSqueaker on August 08, 2017, 09:35:02 AM
Read the thread and all I can leave with is...


Why don't people make a Game of Thrones:Musical Edition

Because the people with the best voices are often not the ones you'd want to see naked.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on August 08, 2017, 10:10:47 AM
Just what we need: one more project to distract GRRM from finishing those damn books!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: I'm a red panda on August 08, 2017, 11:21:08 AM
I haven't looked into seeing Hamilton yet near me, but I'd definitely enter that lottery that others are mentioning!  Which reminds me...

When I was in high school, the musical to see was RENT.  I was heavy into choir and whatnot so we were all obsessed.  When it came to our town, my lovely, frugal-by-necessity and then by choice single father took a morning off work to wait in line for the $20 front row seats (similar to the program someone else mentioned).  We were front row just off center, and I loved every minute of it (and my Dad, extra, for doing it for me... couldn't have been easy to sit next to 15 year old me in such a... mature... show, lol).

I also realllllly want to see the Aladdin production, but we don't have a line in YNAB for pricey musicals (yet!)

RENT is really to thank for all the low cost lotteries that exist now.  I'm not sure if anyone did it before them, but they popularized it.  I doubt we'd have the $10 "ham for ham" tickets if RENT wasn't a pioneer in that area.  (Hamilton really went beyond it though making the lottery a show on it's own, before it all went online.)

I've seen Book of Mormon twice, and I nearly cried when I had to pay $100 (for inexpensive) seats in Iowa. I saw it on Broadway for $25 in standing room only.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: boy_bye on August 08, 2017, 11:51:24 AM

RENT is really to thank for all the low cost lotteries that exist now.  I'm not sure if anyone did it before them, but they popularized it.  I doubt we'd have the $10 "ham for ham" tickets if RENT wasn't a pioneer in that area.  (Hamilton really went beyond it though making the lottery a show on it's own, before it all went online.)

A bunch of my friends and I camped out one night on the street to get front row tickets for Rent back in, maybe it was 1997? Peeing in Port Authority at 4 am -- good times! I had my guitar and we low-key drank some wine and it was a blast.

As I recall we were all so wrecked from not sleeping that we all weepy hysterically throughout the whole show!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: IllusionNW on August 08, 2017, 03:11:36 PM
DH and I love musicals.  I watched the Broadway production of Rent in high school and fell in love with it.  When we started dating in college, I introduced him to Rent and we became obsessed.

When we heard that Hamilton would be touring through our town, we totally bought season tickets for every.single.show.  As season ticket subscribers, we also got first pick for Hamilton tickets when the single seats opened.  And I can't wait.  Is it a splurge?  Absolutely.  Does it bring DH and me intense amounts of joy.  Yes.

We're technically FI, so we are comfortable spending money on things that bring us joy or buy us time.  The amount of joy that Hamilton brings us probably can't even be quantified.  So I think it's probably worth it for us.

PS.  The PBS documentary is amazing and really makes you appreciate the music that much more.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on August 08, 2017, 10:27:39 PM
Loved Hamilton, loved Rent. Happy to report that Hamilton will be returning to the Bay Area next year. Hell yes, we'll be going again. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on August 09, 2017, 08:50:37 AM
I'm not familiar with Rent. Does the summary at the beginning of "Team America: World Police" pretty much nail it?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: SeaEhm on August 09, 2017, 09:22:43 AM
Loved Hamilton, loved Rent. Happy to report that Hamilton will be returning to the Bay Area next year. Hell yes, we'll be going again. Just sayin'.

You have nearly 6,000 posts on this forum! Have you not read one thing on this forum!  If you spend money on something others see no value in, then you are to be publicly shamed and face punched!

:flick: :flick:
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on August 10, 2017, 09:45:55 PM
Loved Hamilton, loved Rent. Happy to report that Hamilton will be returning to the Bay Area next year. Hell yes, we'll be going again. Just sayin'.

You have nearly 6,000 posts on this forum! Have you not read one thing on this forum!  If you spend money on something others see no value in, then you are to be publicly shamed and face punched!

:flick: :flick:
Eh, fuck 'em, we can totally afford it. Also, I believe I mentioned DH sold some stuff he inherited and wasn't using and we paid a comparatively reasonable number of Hamiltons for the tickets + free(-ish)* hotel night, courtesy of our IHG Rewards Card. Mustachianism all the way, baby!

Oh and next year? We'll still have the rest of the money from selling said shit er, stuff, and another free(-ish)* hotel night, courtesy of the IHG card. I seriously doubt we'll see Hamilton four times, but twice is a definite possibility.

*Yeah, I know the IHG card costs $49 bucks a year. We have two of them. Our combined points total upward of 700,000, so we could have used those to get a free free night, but the annual free nights expire and the points don't so we use the annual ones up first. Capiche?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: I'm a red panda on August 11, 2017, 08:41:18 AM
I'm not familiar with Rent. Does the summary at the beginning of "Team America: World Police" pretty much nail it?

Oh, it's slightly more nuanced than that. It's not just AIDS- but drugs too!

(The song "I'll Cover You" from Rent  was my first dance at my wedding.  One of our groomsmen then came over and sang the song from Team America to us. So romantic.  Also, Team America was amazing. We still "signal" each other whenever we are in trouble.)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: BlueHouse on August 11, 2017, 08:44:15 AM
Loved Hamilton, loved Rent. Happy to report that Hamilton will be returning to the Bay Area next year. Hell yes, we'll be going again. Just sayin'.

Jealous.  I think I've decided that it's cheaper for me to travel to NY or Chicago and buy tickets at face value than to wait for it to come to DC and buy from reseller.  Crazy!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: zinnie on August 11, 2017, 09:02:39 AM
I'm a musical person. I love, love musicals. I have many memorized and play the soundtracks all the time. I've seen RENT over ten times and many others more than once.

I'm still not seeing Hamilton until prices come down. It's finally coming to my city in 2018 and I'm not sure we'll get to see it. I have to admit I'm pretty jealous when people I know who aren't even musical people have all seen it, and I haven't. But it's become about more than liking the musical. It's now some kind of status symbol--I've heard "have you seen Hamilton yet? It's AMAZING" at multiple social events with my peer group. I've known at least five couples who went to New York for a weekend JUST to see Hamilton. They then FB-brag about it while everyone posts jealous comments on their pictures. And we don't play this game.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: zinnie on August 11, 2017, 09:04:46 AM

(The song "I'll Cover You" from Rent  was my first dance at my wedding. 

From another RENT fan, I love this! :)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: jeromedawg on August 12, 2017, 12:05:00 AM
Loved Hamilton, loved Rent. Happy to report that Hamilton will be returning to the Bay Area next year. Hell yes, we'll be going again. Just sayin'.

You have nearly 6,000 posts on this forum! Have you not read one thing on this forum!  If you spend money on something others see no value in, then you are to be publicly shamed and face punched!

:flick: :flick:
Eh, fuck 'em, we can totally afford it. Also, I believe I mentioned DH sold some stuff he inherited and wasn't using and we paid a comparatively reasonable number of Hamiltons for the tickets + free(-ish)* hotel night, courtesy of our IHG Rewards Card. Mustachianism all the way, baby!

Oh and next year? We'll still have the rest of the money from selling said shit er, stuff, and another free(-ish)* hotel night, courtesy of the IHG card. I seriously doubt we'll see Hamilton four times, but twice is a definite possibility.

*Yeah, I know the IHG card costs $49 bucks a year. We have two of them. Our combined points total upward of 700,000, so we could have used those to get a free free night, but the annual free nights expire and the points don't so we use the annual ones up first. Capiche?

Four times is the limit, so you should be good... :P
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: GuitarStv on August 12, 2017, 03:03:07 AM
Read the thread and all I can leave with is...


Why don't people make a Game of Thrones:Musical Edition

Because the people with the best voices are often not the ones you'd want to see naked.

If you're wasting time watching Game of Thrones for the off chance you'll see boobs you're going to be blown away by what I have to tell you about this whole 'internet' thing . . .
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: TheGrimSqueaker on August 12, 2017, 07:56:45 AM
Read the thread and all I can leave with is...


Why don't people make a Game of Thrones:Musical Edition

Because the people with the best voices are often not the ones you'd want to see naked.

If you're wasting time watching Game of Thrones for the off chance you'll see boobs you're going to be blown away by what I have to tell you about this whole 'internet' thing . . .

I haven't gotten around to seeing even one episode. But I did read the books. There's a great deal of nudity there but you have to use your imagination.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: SeaEhm on August 12, 2017, 08:00:08 AM
Read the thread and all I can leave with is...


Why don't people make a Game of Thrones:Musical Edition

Because the people with the best voices are often not the ones you'd want to see naked.

If you're wasting time watching Game of Thrones for the off chance you'll see boobs you're going to be blown away by what I have to tell you about this whole 'internet' thing . . .

Internet? Are you some kind of scientist?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Rimu05 on September 02, 2017, 03:34:09 PM
One of the best musicals ever! I wish I could afford to see it live once...

I absolutely detest musicals but the Hamilton sound track is an exception. I love the Soundtrack and it's made me really want to see it and I cannot re-iterate enough how much musicals annoy and bore the devils out of me. There is not one musical that hasn't irritated me. If there was one I was partial to, I fast forwarded everything and only went with the songs I like.

It's sad I am in FL, if I was still in the North East, I'd be like fuck mustachianism, I am going to hamilton. I am all about frugality and always pay my bills and save as much as I can but there are experiences I won't skimp out on.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Rimu05 on September 02, 2017, 03:42:09 PM
Read the thread and all I can leave with is...


Why don't people make a Game of Thrones:Musical Edition

Because the people with the best voices are often not the ones you'd want to see naked.

If you're wasting time watching Game of Thrones for the off chance you'll see boobs you're going to be blown away by what I have to tell you about this whole 'internet' thing . . .

I haven't gotten around to seeing even one episode. But I did read the books. There's a great deal of nudity there but you have to use your imagination.

I too came from the books and the TV show surprised with the amount of nudity. I was like, was A Song of Ice and Fire this raunchy, but my interest really tamed when the show over took the books. They said the show is going a different direction but I still feel like the large events in the show will happen in the book. I mean book readers have been theorizing a lot of the stuff in the show.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: frozen on November 26, 2017, 02:13:07 PM
Hamilton has a lottery in 3 cities: Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York. Lottery winners are allowed to purchase 2 tickets for $10 each, and seats are typically in the first or second row.
Well, on Thanksgiving, I found out I won the NYC Hamilton lottery for a 2pm show the following day!
I ended up using my miles and points to get us airfare and a hotel for 2 nights to NYC on Friday to see the show!
I still had to pay fees with using the airline mileage and restaurants in NYC are very expensive, but I was as frugal as I could be.
I highly recommend the Hamilton lottery!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on November 27, 2017, 07:25:21 AM
Score!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: I'm a red panda on November 27, 2017, 08:47:14 AM
Hamilton has a lottery in 3 cities: Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York. Lottery winners are allowed to purchase 2 tickets for $10 each, and seats are typically in the first or second row.
Well, on Thanksgiving, I found out I won the NYC Hamilton lottery for a 2pm show the following day!
I ended up using my miles and points to get us airfare and a hotel for 2 nights to NYC on Friday to see the show!
I still had to pay fees with using the airline mileage and restaurants in NYC are very expensive, but I was as frugal as I could be.
I highly recommend the Hamilton lottery!

That's amazing! 

I've never considered entering when I wasn't in the city.  (But broadway lotteries are the best way to see shows!)


(Also- I read "For the fourth time" to the melody of "one last time" every single time this thread title pops up.)

Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: frozen on November 27, 2017, 06:45:19 PM
Hamilton has a lottery in 3 cities: Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York. Lottery winners are allowed to purchase 2 tickets for $10 each, and seats are typically in the first or second row.
Well, on Thanksgiving, I found out I won the NYC Hamilton lottery for a 2pm show the following day!
I ended up using my miles and points to get us airfare and a hotel for 2 nights to NYC on Friday to see the show!
I still had to pay fees with using the airline mileage and restaurants in NYC are very expensive, but I was as frugal as I could be.
I highly recommend the Hamilton lottery!

That's amazing! 

I've never considered entering when I wasn't in the city.  (But broadway lotteries are the best way to see shows!)


(Also- I read "For the fourth time" to the melody of "one last time" every single time this thread title pops up.)
I love that you sing the One Last Time melody when you read the thread title!

If you decide to enter the lottery for a city you are not currently in, I recommend doing a bit of advance planning on how you would pay for the airfare and hotel on the off-chance you win. I wish I would have done that. It was pretty stressful to spend Thanksgiving day researching the optimal way to use my miles and points.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on November 28, 2017, 07:55:13 AM
Hamilton has a lottery in 3 cities: Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York. Lottery winners are allowed to purchase 2 tickets for $10 each, and seats are typically in the first or second row.
Well, on Thanksgiving, I found out I won the NYC Hamilton lottery for a 2pm show the following day!
I ended up using my miles and points to get us airfare and a hotel for 2 nights to NYC on Friday to see the show!
I still had to pay fees with using the airline mileage and restaurants in NYC are very expensive, but I was as frugal as I could be.
I highly recommend the Hamilton lottery!

That's amazing! 


I've never considered entering when I wasn't in the city.  (But broadway lotteries are the best way to see shows!)


(Also- I read "For the fourth time" to the melody of "one last time" every single time this thread title pops up.)

Iowajes's coming ho-o-ome!

(for the fourth time)

Iowajes's coming ho-o-ome!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: zinnie on November 28, 2017, 08:16:20 AM
I've been playing the LA lottery for six months now without luck. Congrats on getting tickets, frozen! Can't believe you'll fly to NYC just to see Hamilton. That sounds like the kind of anti-mustachian mentality this thread was making fun of :). It's cool you can use points, at least.

We finally got tickets here in San Diego! We are pretty much at the top of the balcony, and we were signed into the website the minute they went on sale. It was "only" $220 for the pair, a win as far as Hamilton is concerned, I suppose?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Slee_stack on November 28, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
What a cave I live in.

Hamilton...first I heard about it is when this thread popped to the top today.

I'll file it away.  Maybe if it comes to my city someday and tickets are cheap (less than $100 per) I'll check it out.

So I probably won't ever see it...   I'm OK with that.  What are 'regular' ticket prices for plays anyway?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: frozen on November 28, 2017, 08:24:46 PM
I've been playing the LA lottery for six months now without luck. Congrats on getting tickets, frozen! Can't believe you'll fly to NYC just to see Hamilton. That sounds like the kind of anti-mustachian mentality this thread was making fun of :). It's cool you can use points, at least.

We finally got tickets here in San Diego! We are pretty much at the top of the balcony, and we were signed into the website the minute they went on sale. It was "only" $220 for the pair, a win as far as Hamilton is concerned, I suppose?
Keep playing ó it took me 1.5 years of entering on a regular basis to win. It seems like you got tickets at a great price!

Yes, perhaps I belong on the wall of shame, but I have stockpiled tons of miles and points, so it was a great excuse to use them. Plus it was an awesome weekend!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Secretly Saving on November 28, 2017, 08:51:59 PM
We got Hamilton tickets for when they're on tour here.  Can't wait to go!  Prices weren't nearly as high as they were in NYC.  (Thank goodness!)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: I'm a red panda on November 29, 2017, 08:15:12 AM
What a cave I live in.

Hamilton...first I heard about it is when this thread popped to the top today.

I'll file it away.  Maybe if it comes to my city someday and tickets are cheap (less than $100 per) I'll check it out.

So I probably won't ever see it...   I'm OK with that.  What are 'regular' ticket prices for plays anyway?

It will be an equity touring production for decades, I'm sure. Maybe not continuously, but there will be revivals, so you could eventually see it.  Heck, high schools will probably start doing it in the near future when the rights are released.

"Regular" prices vary, both for touring and on Broadway. Many shows never discount, others often do. There are always "premium seats" that cost a ton, and then back of the house that cost way less.  If you wanted to see Wicked next March on broadway, orchestra seats start at $89.

I've actually generally paid more for tours than Broadway, because I always use lotteries and standing room and discounters when in NYC.  You don't get that back home.  The $10 for Hamilton is without a doubt the best deal there is, but $25 for book of mormon was the best one I've gotten so far!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on November 29, 2017, 11:35:01 AM
If Hamilton was coming to my town, a frugal way to see it would be to become a volunteer usher. You'd have to plan it well in advance, but you'd also get to see a lot of other free shows in the interim.

I'm willing to pay more to see something that achieves the goals of teaching, entertaining, and triggering the urge to learn more. Too many shows seek only to entertain. I believe that is what makes Hamilton such a standout, and worth the money. I've outlined my experience upthread, and I'd still throw down to see it again. Already have the hotel and air miles, so I might consider this strategy when frequent YouTube viewing stops scratching the itch.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: OurTown on December 19, 2017, 11:31:15 AM
I just read the book.  I guess if I was really into it I could do a self-service sing-along.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on February 21, 2018, 07:32:29 PM
OMG! Just bought tickets for Hamilton in April, 2019 at face value! Who the fuck plans anything that far in advance?
Friends who subscribe didn't want to see it again, so they offered us the chance to buy tickets on their account. We paid $385 each the first time from a secondary party. This time, we "only" paid $210 each for better seats. I know this is in no way frugal, but bear with me here.

I have a huge birthday coming up. Six-Zero. Oh, my! When DH asked me what I wanted to do a couple of weeks ago*, Hamilton was all I came up with. I thought it was playing in L.A., but I was wrong, bleh. It is playing in Seattle and Denver. Tickets were available, Southwest had cheap flights, and we have buttloads of IHG points for no-cost hotel room. Still, it would easily have cost more than a dozen Hamiltons. Fuck that. Which is how I ended up with Hamilton tickets in April, 2019, at which time I will be 61+. How's that for delayed gratification?

*In case you don't know (sorry to be boring if you do), his mom has ALZ and lives with us. We live more of a day-to-day existence these days. Sometimes I have no idea how I'll live through the week. Fourteen months from now? Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: MissMoneyBags on February 22, 2018, 12:16:54 AM
I absolutely love the Hamilton soundtrack. I've listened to it about 100 times. I've read the biography it was based on and lin-manuel Mirandas book about the show ( both highly recommended). I've watched the documentary, and I was so excited about seeing it in London. And it added absolutely nothing to my enjoyment of the music and the lyrics. So save your money and listen to the soundtrack instead!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on February 22, 2018, 12:49:36 AM
I absolutely love the Hamilton soundtrack. I've listened to it about 100 times. I've read the biography it was based on and lin-manuel Mirandas book about the show ( both highly recommended). I've watched the documentary, and I was so excited about seeing it in London. And it added absolutely nothing to my enjoyment of the music and the lyrics. So save your money and listen to the soundtrack instead!
OMG, there's so much good stuff on YouTube, plus I have a couple of other little cast stories that are pretty cool.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on February 22, 2018, 07:22:23 AM
I love the sound track. About four or five of the tracks on disk 1 are truly beautiful, and the rap battles on disk II are great!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: economista on February 23, 2018, 08:27:19 AM
I heard this story on the way to work the other day and thought of this thread.

https://www.cpr.org/news/story/did-you-nab-a-denver-hamilton-ticket-probably-not-here-s-why
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: I'm a red panda on February 23, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Guys! Theatrical performances have "cast recordings".  Movies have soundtracks.

And Hamilton has some truly amazing songs. Some could easily be top 10 hits.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: obstinate on February 25, 2018, 11:58:13 AM
Saw it recently (on a boondoggle -- wouldn't have paid myself). My 2c is skip it and see Phantom or something instead. Songs didn't really do it for me.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on February 26, 2018, 06:55:41 AM
You know, I actually just saw "Phantom", and I'm not sure Raul is that great a prize. Persuades Christine to go into a dangerous situation, gets himself caught in a noose at a critical moment...it's no victory that they wind up as a couple.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: obstinate on February 26, 2018, 07:31:15 AM
Almost all male heroes in stories composed before say 1990 are emotionally abusive by today's standards. Even many modern male heroes are. It's a sad thing and you can't really unsee it once you see it. The best you can do is try to engage with the art in the context of where it came from.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: alanB on February 26, 2018, 08:39:01 AM
The Hamilton OCR is on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/1kCHru7uhxBUdzkm4gzRQc (https://open.spotify.com/album/1kCHru7uhxBUdzkm4gzRQc).  It is amazing and literally free.  I also read that they filmed the original cast production already and they will eventually release it.  Be more like Burr, wait for it wait for it...

For people who have never heard of it and would like to learn more, I thought the profile in the New Yorker was pretty good: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/09/hamiltons (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/09/hamiltons). 
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on February 28, 2018, 03:47:20 PM
You know, I actually just saw "Phantom", and I'm not sure Raul is that great a prize. Persuades Christine to go into a dangerous situation, gets himself caught in a noose at a critical moment...it's no victory that they wind up as a couple.
I saw Phantom (LA) and Les Miz (NY) in the same year. Hands down, Les Miz was the better tale. That was the only time I've seen Phantom, but I have seen LM four times around the world. Now, to achieve that goal for Hamilton without going broke.

Cool Hamilton tidbit: A friend has a young man and his parents as clients. The son is a rising actor with a fine voice. He decides to take a chance and audition for Hamilton. He gets called back and called back, singing many, many roles. He begins to lose hope of being cast when he gets a phone call. You see, every person who plays the role of Hamilton must be approved by LMM himself, and they need this young actor to audition for him. You guessed it, he got the role of Alexander Hamilton. His parents are having a blast traveling to every city he is appearing in. I hope he has a long and varied career. What a way to launch a career into orbit!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: secondcor521 on February 28, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
esp, the rewind, which I think is one of the most interesting bits of theater I'd ever seen.

I saw it in NYC with my DD about a year ago but am not sure what you're referring to here.  Can you explain more which part this is?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: secondcor521 on February 28, 2018, 06:29:51 PM
esp, the rewind, which I think is one of the most interesting bits of theater I'd ever seen.

I saw it in NYC with my DD about a year ago but am not sure what you're referring to here.  Can you explain more which part this is?

At the dance scene where Hamilton meets Eliza -- you first see it through Eliza's eyes, and she sings "Helpless", which ends at their wedding, and then it shifts to Angelica's perspective and a little bit into "Satisfied" they literally rewind the music and rotate the stage backwards and then you go back to the point of Hamilton's entry to the party and she retells the whole thing from her perspective, explaining why she introduced him to Eliza when she really loved him herself.

Lin Manuel Miranda is a truly gifted person....

Ah right, thank you.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on February 28, 2018, 09:08:59 PM
esp, the rewind, which I think is one of the most interesting bits of theater I'd ever seen.

I saw it in NYC with my DD about a year ago but am not sure what you're referring to here.  Can you explain more which part this is?

At the dance scene where Hamilton meets Eliza -- you first see it through Eliza's eyes, and she sings "Helpless", which ends at their wedding, and then it shifts to Angelica's perspective and a little bit into "Satisfied" they literally rewind the music and rotate the stage backwards and then you go back to the point of Hamilton's entry to the party and she retells the whole thing from her perspective, explaining why she introduced him to Eliza when she really loved him herself.

Lin Manuel Miranda is a truly gifted person....
lhamo, I saw that you had seen it on another thread, but I figured it was your story to tell. So glad you enjoyed it.

Here's another Hamilton story. DH and I are real estate junkies. We look at open houses constantly. We were at one right after we saw the show. A kid came in wearing a Hamilton t-shirt. Since I'd just been there, I knew the prices were astronomical. I said jokingly, "What? Your folks went to Hamilton and all you got was a t-shirt? Kid says, "This one comes with a good story". He explained that the woman who played Angelica in the SF show was a friend of his mom's. (She was awesome, and has a notable bleached out, half shaved head hairdo. Seriously awesome.) She was in the chorus in the original cast, but had higher aspirations. She left to do another show and then was cast in the lead in the SF show. According to the kid, the actress, Emmy Raver-Lampman, stayed with them when she came to SF. I have no idea if any of this is true, but the parents walked in as the kid was finishing the story and didn't contradict him. It's kind of an amazing Cinderella story. Except that she worked her ass off. Come to think of it, so did Cinderella. If you watch the original cast videos on You Tube, you can spot her in the chorus. I love how this show is launching so many talented people.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: boy_bye on March 01, 2018, 06:58:14 AM
The "rewind" part blew my mind, too -- I know it's a device that's been used in many plays and musicals over the years, but this was just super emotionally impactful.

I was lucky enough to see the original Broadway cast and Renee Elise Goldsberry KILLED this song. I met her a few times in college which made me feel a little special :) I'm in awe of her talent and also the fact that she is in her late 40s and looks like this (https://lalignenyc.com/blogs/in-line/renee-elise-goldsberry).

I was prepared for her brilliance, and LMM's, and Daveed Diggs, but the revelation for me was Chris Jackson as George Washington. He was just incredible, he's got that natural "leader among men" kind of energy and he blew the roof off the theater with it.

ETA @Dicey -- I saw Emmy in the OBC! She was great! The ensemble works so hard in this show -- I can't imagine how their knees survive one performance, let alone 8 per week.

Also, I'm pretty sure Daveed Diggs is going to be a giant movie star off the back of his work on Hamilton. He has the charisma of like 100 normal people.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on March 05, 2018, 08:23:15 AM
I'm really glad to read about the "rewind" part here. Based only on the music, I couldn't have imagined that, which is probably why I'd under-appreciated that song compared to what seems to be the main stream.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: I'm a red panda on March 05, 2018, 08:41:46 AM
In January 2019 - Lin is doing Hamilton in Puerto Rico. Reprising his role.

I believe the interview he gave he said the tickets would be "obscenely expensive" (but with hundreds of $10 tickets for residents). Take a vacation, see a show, and help the PR economy!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: honeybbq on March 05, 2018, 01:17:20 PM
esp, the rewind, which I think is one of the most interesting bits of theater I'd ever seen.

I saw it in NYC with my DD about a year ago but am not sure what you're referring to here.  Can you explain more which part this is?

At the dance scene where Hamilton meets Eliza -- you first see it through Eliza's eyes, and she sings "Helpless", which ends at their wedding, and then it shifts to Angelica's perspective and a little bit into "Satisfied" they literally rewind the music and rotate the stage backwards and then you go back to the point of Hamilton's entry to the party and she retells the whole thing from her perspective, explaining why she introduced him to Eliza when she really loved him herself.

Lin Manuel Miranda is a truly gifted person....

That part of the show literally blew my mind. :D :D

Paid $350 to see in Chi-town. Worth every penny.

Entering lotteries here in the pacNW frantically trying to see it again for $10.

Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: IllusionNW on March 05, 2018, 01:35:20 PM
We just saw Hamilton for the first time (after listening to the soundtrack a million times, along with the Mix Tape and watching the PBS documentary).  We're huge musical lovers and Hamilton is probably the best show I've ever seen.  To be clear, the choreography and staging are just ok.  But it's really a musical masterpiece and blew my mind.  Definitely worth purchasing the entire local Broadway season so that we could get priority tickets.  And I would probably go to see it as many times as I could.  But musical theater is our happy place, and the reason we are so careful with our money and are big savers is so that we can fully enjoy experiences like this.

(Also, fwiw, we took our 2 year old to see Daniel Tiger Live over the weekend and it was not worth the money.  Total sensory overload.  My daughter came out of it shell shocked.  Lesson learned and I won't be spending my money on that type of activity any time soon.)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Tobias on March 06, 2018, 01:38:24 AM
I saw Hamilton in Seattle about two weeks ago, having never heard a single song or commercial for it. It was well worth the $200 I paid to get a single ticket. I feel very fortunate to have first experienced it live.

I've been entering the lottery for the $20 tickets to try and see it again and take my mom.

My semi-retired mother-in-law has been ushering for decades to see free plays, and can't get in to usher Hamilton because everyone wants to.

When I got my ticket, I saw people selling theirs for $500 on Ticketmaster itself. I hadn't realized Ticketmaster let you scalp your own tickets on their platform. Seems like they're sure making it easy for professional scalpers!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on March 13, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
A while ago I reviewed Ticketmaster's data to consider buying the stock. It astounds me that they're not more profitable, seeing as how you basically buy an extra ticket for them for every purchase you make buying tix for yourself and your family.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on August 01, 2018, 06:09:35 AM
Bumping the thread because Hamilton tix are finally on sale in Charlotte. Currently in a virtual waiting room, I am NOT throwing away my shot (to see it live).
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: ducky19 on August 01, 2018, 07:05:00 AM
When did this thread go from facepunching someone for seeing the show 4 times to fawning all over the musical...? I mean, I like musicals as much as the next person (was in a lot of shows in high school), but I don't get spending $400 for one ticket to see a show.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on August 01, 2018, 12:40:08 PM
My tickets were nowhere near $400/head. Including fees, etc., I am in for $730 for four.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Winston on August 02, 2018, 01:45:08 PM
When did this thread go from facepunching someone for seeing the show 4 times to fawning all over the musical...? I mean, I like musicals as much as the next person (was in a lot of shows in high school), but I don't get spending $400 for one ticket to see a show.

When enough people who recognized that spending money on amazing experiences started posting, instead of just the curmudgeonly crew for which this just "isn't their thing." Surprise - spending money on things that truly enrich your life is part of what this whole shebang is all about. For some people, that's Hamilton. Other people may prefer a weekend trip to Mexico. Neither are wrong so long as it doesn't ultimately impact their FIRE aspirations.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on August 02, 2018, 02:28:04 PM
the MMM value is that money should only be spent when it truly increases quality of life. Whether spending this money on seeing "Hamilton" life increases that depends on a range of other factors.

Indeed there are parts of my life that are facepunch-worthy, my car is too new, my skills are too few, the last time I went to FL you wouldn't believe what I blew (in $$$).

One of those factors includes whether I've seen it ever before, hence the mockery in the title of this thread. I cannot imagine a trajectory for my life in which I see the same musical live four times.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: golden1 on August 04, 2018, 07:29:52 PM
I love, and I mean LOVE the Hamilton soundtrack, but I can not justify the cost for tickets.  Maybe in 10 years it will be less in demand and more affordable, but $400 a ticket for nosebleed seats....no way in hell.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on August 05, 2018, 12:31:17 PM
I see it as more incentive to FIRE. I'm there, we can afford it, it was AWESOME, and we're seeing it again in April. DH is not what I'd consider a theater buff and he's all-in for a second viewing. We may never get to 4, and we didn't spend $400 per ticket, but it was worth every moment.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Just Joe on August 06, 2018, 08:46:21 AM
Hmmm.... Hamilton or several days' rental of a condo at the beach... Hmmmm.... ;)
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: zygote on August 06, 2018, 11:04:00 AM
I'll probably end up with some facepunches for this, but I have seen Hamilton...more than 4 times.

However, it's a misrepresentation that tickets are $400+. Resale tickets may go for that much, but face value is much lower. I've only ever paid face value, always less than $200, and this was for good seats. It was under $100 off-Broadway. If you bought the tickets when they went on sale, they were reasonable for theater. The prices for the Broadway production have gone up since it opened, though, so I don't go as much as I used to. I think you have to pay $200 to sit in the back now. The last time I went, my mom got the tickets because she caught the Hamilton bug late and wanted to go.

Some people may think theater isn't worth it, and that's fine. But seeing theater is my main hobby. I budget for it and it's what I spend the bulk of my non-essentials money on.

I will say that the current NYC production is not in great shape. The current Angelica and Eliza have both been there for 2+ years and their performances have gotten kind of stale. I bought tickets for this month a long time ago, and I ended up reselling the pair for a $300 profit. I'm not going back until the cast changes and/or I win the $10 ticket lottery.

Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on August 06, 2018, 11:12:20 AM
Hmmm.... Hamilton or several days' rental of a condo at the beach... Hmmmm.... ;)
Meh, global warming concerns aside, the beach will always be there. Easy decision.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: grandep on August 06, 2018, 03:59:07 PM
Hmmm.... Hamilton or several days' rental of a condo at the beach... Hmmmm.... ;)
Meh, global warming concerns aside, the beach will always be there. Easy decision.

I had to laugh at this because for me the decision is also very easy. I would take seeing Hamilton over the beach literally any day.

I saw it on Broadway one month after most of the original cast left. I bought tickets 9 MONTHS earlier (bought in October '15, saw it in August '16) and I was heart broken when I read that everyone was leaving around July. The show was still incredible. Javier Munoz played Hamilton, the same guy who performed when Obama saw it, and everyone else who replaced the original cast was amazing (with the exception of the guy who played Burr, who I found disappointingly uninspiring. I think I regret missing Leslie Odom, Jr more than I do LMM).

I am so sad by how little of the details I vividly remember. I am one of the people who listened to the soundtrack all the way through probably a hundred times and in hindsight I wonder if that was a mistake -- since I already knew the songs so well, seeing them performed live didn't "stick" in my memory as well. Maybe that's crappy pseudoscience, but that's my theory.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Just Joe on August 07, 2018, 10:18:43 AM
Hmmm.... Hamilton or several days' rental of a condo at the beach... Hmmmm.... ;)
Meh, global warming concerns aside, the beach will always be there. Easy decision.

I want to see Hamilton but I'll wait. Still too expensive for me and mine.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: I'm a red panda on August 07, 2018, 10:59:43 AM

I am so sad by how little of the details I vividly remember. I am one of the people who listened to the soundtrack all the way through probably a hundred times and in hindsight I wonder if that was a mistake -- since I already knew the songs so well, seeing them performed live didn't "stick" in my memory as well. Maybe that's crappy pseudoscience, but that's my theory.

I find musicals where I don't know the lyrics to be very hard to watch. Both Kinky Boots and Matilda I couldn't understand half of what they said.  And Something Rotten I saw before the cast recording was released and remember thinking it was incredible that I literally had no idea what would happen next (rare for a musical to not have familiar source material)- but missed a lot to laughter, and felt I caught a lot more the 2nd time when I then knew the material.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on August 08, 2018, 09:55:19 AM
I am very focused in my preparation to see "The Lion King" right now, listening the sound track in my car constantly and making my family members do the same.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: NoVa on August 08, 2018, 11:37:06 AM
I am conflicted on this one. Background, wife and I enjoy musicals and theater, we average 2 events a year. I bought tickets (direct, not 3rd party) for her birthday. It was a remarkable show! Easily the best musical I have seen in at least a decade. At some point in the distant future I could imagine going again. For people who aren't into musicals it would be a waste of time, but that is one of the things we truly enjoy.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on August 10, 2018, 08:02:51 AM
I am conflicted on this one. Background, wife and I enjoy musicals and theater, we average 2 events a year. I bought tickets (direct, not 3rd party) for her birthday. It was a remarkable show! Easily the best musical I have seen in at least a decade. At some point in the distant future I could imagine going again. For people who aren't into musicals it would be a waste of time, but that is one of the things we truly enjoy.
Unless you're awash in debt, I see no conflict.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: frozen on August 26, 2018, 01:39:49 PM
Iíve seen Hamilton 3 times now. I only paid for the first ticket. I won The Hamilton ticket lottery the other two times and paid $10 for those tickets.
If you donít know about the lottery, you can download the Hamilton app and enter daily. You only pay $10/ticket if you win.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: geekette on August 26, 2018, 02:53:39 PM
I just got tickets for the touring version for this fall in Durham ($170 each including ticketbastard fees).  I've heard the recordings (LMM put them up on youtube free, but I see they're elsewhere as well) and enjoyed that.  My dilemma is that my DH isn't particularly interested, so I wonder if I should drag him, take someone who's "dying" to go (currently 2 have offered to go with me), or sell them.  We're FI, so it's more of a value thing.

I don't do much live theater, but I enjoy it when I do.  Just conflicted.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on August 26, 2018, 11:35:13 PM
I just got tickets for the touring version for this fall in Durham ($170 each including ticketbastard fees).  I've heard the recordings (LMM put them up on youtube free, but I see they're elsewhere as well) and enjoyed that.  My dilemma is that my DH isn't particularly interested, so I wonder if I should drag him, take someone who's "dying" to go (currently 2 have offered to go with me), or sell them.  We're FI, so it's more of a value thing.

I don't do much live theater, but I enjoy it when I do.  Just conflicted.
DH went only because I wanted to. He loved it. We're both looking forward to seeing it again in April.

Iíve seen Hamilton 3 times now. I only paid for the first ticket. I won The Hamilton ticket lottery the other two times and paid $10 for those tickets.
If you donít know about the lottery, you can download the Hamilton app and enter daily. You only pay $10/ticket if you win.
The lottery is awesome! The seats are usually in the first two rows, which are somewhat obstructed, due to the height of the stage. Ahem, @frozen, you paid for all of them, you just got a bargain price. Where were your seats for #2 and #3? Were all three viewings in the same city?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: runbikerun on October 02, 2018, 04:56:09 AM
I went to see Hamilton in mid-August in Chicago, paying about 400 or so for three tickets. Satisfied finally stopped playing on permanent loop in my skull about two weeks ago. Now it's back. I hope you're all proud of yourselves.

Seriously, though, it was absolutely worth the money. The wordplay, the offbeat rhymes, the musical references back and forth (Jefferson singing jazz, Hamilton's son learning to count in French to the tune of the ten duel commandments)...all of them are superb on record, but something else entirely live. The only live performance of any kind I'd rank alongside would be either Rammstein (who stride around with thirty-foot wings made of literal flames) or At The Drive-In (who I'd seriously consider donating a kidney to if one of them needed it).
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on October 02, 2018, 06:54:51 AM
Here in Charlotte, they've begun mailing out the tickets to people who will see it in the second half of October (I am in this group). My in-laws have gone through a transformation, seemed like only weeks ago that my MIL was parroting the FoxNews line that it was part of the left-wing conspiracy to destroy America, but now she's excited to get to see it.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on October 02, 2018, 07:39:28 AM
We have tickets to see it again in April. DH just came from work saying his work has offered Orchestra seats for $285/ea for the same run, which is what we paid. Should we see it a third time? We don't think we need to, but I hope we don't come to regret that decision. It really is something amazing.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on October 26, 2018, 07:29:00 AM
I have an update here: I was able to see it last night in Charlotte, with my wife and with her parents.

I would have sat through it again immediately when it ended (for free). I think some other people on this thread have said it was incredible live. It was.

I know we MMM's are about finding ways to live with less consumption and less spending. I found this experience genuinely satisfying in a way few other things in life have been for me. The idea that I am able to work and contribute to a market economy and get paid enough money over the course of a couple of days to enable seeing this seems...extraordinary. Cut your spending in other areas before you cut it here.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: skp on October 26, 2018, 09:09:01 AM
My husband and I saw Hamilton as part of a Broadway Series.   The package was 5 shows, including parking passes for $600.  Seats weren't primo,but decent,  center back first floor.  I enjoyed the entire season.  And I would have never done it except that I really wanted to see Hamilton.
I like Broadway but wouldn't call myself an aficionado.  I just really wanted to see Hamilton, and this was a bargain way to do it.  If we went to NY to see it, it would have cost well over $600 for the two of us between, tickets, hotel, travel.
I am glad I saw it.  It's one of a kind.  I've never seen anything like it before.  That being said, once was enough for me.  This is the first play I've ever seen that I felt I had to do "homework" to enjoy.  To get everything you can out of it, you need to read up on the history of Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr, and listen to the soundtrack because some of the lyrics are hard to get and I felt I had to concentrate to understand some of the words.  Funny that even though I was there I didn't get the Eliza, Angelica, Hamilton before and after thing of their meeting.  I guess I had to read up on the play too, to understand that.  I also was a little irritated at the in your face politics- " immigrants get it done" speaks for itself.  I found the over the top cheering by the audience- annoying. IMO let the play speaks for itself- It is suppose to be entertainment- Some people (me) don't want to pay good money to have politics shoved down their throat.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on October 26, 2018, 09:30:54 AM
I would be curious how "in your face" you thought the politics of Rent were during the height of the AIDS crisis?

I will not deny the "Immigrants: we get the job done" line. But there are also a lot of anti-immigrant slurs (generally directed at Hamilton, who was naturalized in 1776), particularly in the "Washington on your side" song and later.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: obstinate on October 26, 2018, 09:35:20 AM
I also was a little irritated at the in your face politics- " immigrants get it done" speaks for itself.  I found the over the top cheering by the audience- annoying. IMO let the play speaks for itself- It is suppose to be entertainment- Some people (me) don't want to pay good money to have politics shoved down their throat.
Art is often political, especially in the realm of comedy. I assume you know this, but in case you don't, I thought I'd clue you in. If you don't want to be exposed to other people's political views, you're going to need to be really judicious about what art you consume.

Also . . . this was art . . . about a political figure. Honestly, what did you expect?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: zygote on October 26, 2018, 09:47:48 AM
I would also like to point out the show originally premiered in 2015. I saw it off-Broadway, and it did not feel so political at the time. "Immigrants - we get the job done" was just an amusing throwaway line.

I saw it again after the 2016 election, and both the delivery of and response to some of the lines like that were charged in a way they were not when it was first written.

Art is often going to be political, and it will evolve to mirror the current political climate. In my opinion, that's part of what makes it so powerful.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: I'm a red panda on October 26, 2018, 09:49:54 AM
and listen to the soundtrack because some of the lyrics are hard to get and I felt I had to concentrate to understand some of the words.

I'm interested to know what other shows were in your Broadway series. I find this true of nearly EVERY musical.

My husband said he left RENT having no idea what just happened, because he couldn't understand 80% of the lyrics. (He's since seen it 4 times and knows most of it by heart.) I felt the same at Kinky Boots.   
Shows with kids are the worst- even knowing the lyrics I still can rarely understand the lyrics to Matilda!

And I agree art is often very political.
Book of Mormon? "in 1978 God changed his mind about black people" anyone? Or is it okay to make fun of fringe religions but not mainstream views like anti-immigration?
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: skp on October 26, 2018, 10:20:31 AM
Rent was in the series. I don't remember having trouble understanding the lyrics. This was my first time seeing it. The politics didn't bother me probably because they aren't raw. I did want to scream out when they sang How are we going to pay the rent with "how about getting a job" but managed to keep my politics to myself. I knew full well the political undertones of Hamilton
 It was the audience's reaction/ over the top cheering that irritated me.  I do think immigrants get it done. I just am not for illegal, Sanctuary city, open border extreme immigration. Other plays were Waitress, Aladdin, the humans, phantom love never dies. I didn't have any trouble with any of their lyrics.  ETA- the Humans was AWEFUL! I forgot there was a 6th- the play about Gloria Estefan.  So it was 6 plays for $600.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: obstinate on October 26, 2018, 10:21:10 AM
And I agree art is often very political.
Book of Mormon? "in 1978 God changed his mind about black people" anyone? Or is it okay to make fun of fringe religions but not mainstream views like anti-immigration?
?Por que no los dos? And everything else that's absurd too. No sacred cows.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on October 26, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
You might recall the every-four-year outrage associated with portray Julius Caesar as the President of the moment, only to have him surrounded and killed by Senators. In some cases, making the political statement connects us more strongly (even if seeing a President we like get assassinated triggers us)

I honestly thought my in-laws--who skew conservative and tend to be overly reliant on FoxNews for keeping informed--weren't going to want to see "Hamilton" after the news made a big deal about the original cast calling out Vice President Pence at one of their performances. They came with us last night and enjoyed it quite a bit anyway.

Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: runbikerun on October 27, 2018, 12:37:21 AM
I'm stumped as to how you tell the story of a dirt-poor immigrant becoming a major figure in a war for independence and continuing his career by shaping a nascent government before dying in a duel as a result of his involvement in politics without it being political. A story sympathetic to Hamilton is by necessity going to be sympathetic to immigrants. Soft-pedalling that would be, not to put to fine a point on it, weapons-grade horseshit.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on October 27, 2018, 04:46:02 PM
I'm stumped as to how you tell the story of a dirt-poor immigrant becoming a major figure in a war for independence and continuing his career by shaping a nascent government before dying in a duel as a result of his involvement in politics without it being political. A story sympathetic to Hamilton is by necessity going to be sympathetic to immigrants. Soft-pedalling that would be, not to put to fine a point on it, weapons-grade horseshit.
Amen!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: MgoSam on October 29, 2018, 01:09:54 PM
I do think immigrants get it done. I just am not for illegal, Sanctuary city, open border extreme immigration.

And yet you consider the line "immigrants- we get the job done," to be, using your words, "politics shoved down their throat." Wow, you statement says way more about you than anything else.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: boy_bye on October 29, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
I do think immigrants get it done. I just am not for illegal, Sanctuary city, open border extreme immigration.

And yet you consider the line "immigrants- we get the job done," to be, using your words, "politics shoved down their throat." Wow, you statement says way more about you than anything else.

I was side-eyeing skp's comment from the moment they misquoted the line.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on November 27, 2018, 07:03:42 AM
Here's a fun Hamilton quiz. The linked articles from the Windy City are also interesting.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/theater/hamilton/ct-hamilton-fact-or-fiction-quiz-20161006-htmlstory.html
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: iris lily on December 02, 2018, 05:34:23 PM
One of the best musicals ever!

Not saying much, pretty low bar.. 
I listened to one song on youtube now. I'd pay $400 to not have to listen to that for 2 hrs!

Ha ha ha. I like live theater but I despise musicals. I like dramas. From what little I know about Hamilton, assuming it has hummable tunes I might like it. But Iím not going to risk it because when I am bored by a musical I am truly disgusted by it.

 Tangebtial to this, I was thrilled to read my favorite film review or who gave a poor review to this most recent film version of ďa star is born.Ē This was just after all of my neighbors decided on me at a dinner party to insist that I must go see it. UGG no just no,  dont  make me listen to all that singing.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: geekette on December 02, 2018, 08:38:56 PM
If anyone would like to hear the whole thing, Lin-Manuel Miranda put the soundtrack on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhinPd5RRJw&list=PLjQpKlmn_hsUCFFvkYW2uQDj_cRmS0Tlo).  A few ads, but I was happy to get a preview before the show, myself. 

I saw the show last Thursday in Durham, very well staged, and very interesting.  It certainly didn't whitewash the complicated nature of the founding fathers.  I often have a problem keeping track of characters, but with the way this was done, I really didn't.  DH didn't care for the first half (not a fan of hip hop), but "got sucked in" by the second half and ended up liking it.  I'm not a fan of hip hop either, but oddly enough, I really enjoyed most of the songs.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on December 26, 2018, 08:06:40 PM
A little post-Christmas treat for my Hamilton-loving friends. Enjoy!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/theater/hamilton-puerto-rico-lin-manuel-miranda.html
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on December 27, 2018, 12:06:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7sm49fHlyI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7sm49fHlyI)

People who are familiar with "Hamilton" as well as the "Rudolph the Red-Nose Reindeer" story from the 1960's will really like this.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on December 27, 2018, 12:28:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7sm49fHlyI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7sm49fHlyI)

People who are familiar with "Hamilton" as well as the "Rudolph the Red-Nose Reindeer" story from the 1960's will really like this.
Hamildolph - I love it!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: OurTown on February 27, 2019, 12:03:51 PM
You know the show got cancelled in Chicago after their recent bad weather.

It was the second time brrrrr killed Hamilton.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on April 24, 2019, 01:40:19 AM
OMG, just saw Hamilton in SF for the second time. We had fourth row seats, which at first seemed too close, but they were awesome! We did not expect to be blown away, but we were, and then some. Worth. It.
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: By the River on April 24, 2019, 07:21:22 AM
My daughter's crazy about Hamilton. She has the soundtrack memorized, and has watched a recording of the show (somebody's shaky camera phone) a few times.

I looked into ticket prices for when it comes to Philadelphia, and it's not happening. She may move on to some other obsession by the time it gets here, so I'm not that concerned about her missing out on seeing it live.

They have a lottery to purchase tickets for $10.  I didn't win when it was in town but my wife's friend did.  The tickets were in the third row.  https://hamiltonmusical.com/lottery/ (https://hamiltonmusical.com/lottery/)  There is a separate drawing each day. 

I gave up on winning and bought tickets on the second hand market.  It was good but not OH MY GOD! THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER! as some people lead you to believe. 
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: Dicey on November 03, 2020, 09:20:46 PM
Reviving this thread to share this with all you Hamilton fans out there:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/hamilton-star-leslie-odom-jr-wait-for-it-election-results-193435201.html

Squeeeeeeee!
Title: Re: Let's watch Hamilton! For the fourth time!
Post by: talltexan on November 04, 2020, 12:28:10 PM
I did enjoy the ad.

Leslie Odom has been so hot lately, getting to kill both Alexander Hamilton and Jesus. Great talent.