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Title: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: IndyPendent on August 02, 2016, 10:27:01 AM
Confession time: what irrational fears do you have?

I actually started typing out a different "I'm so afraid of xyz happening" complainy-pants post, but as I struggled to articulate it I ended up poking fun at myself instead. It was surprisingly therapeutic! I was able to kick myself out of the anxiety I was feeling and reminded myself of just how many positions of strength I was operating in.

So, post your irrational fears here! You can mock yourself or undertake a little self-therapy, as I have.

*Edit* I was originally using the "irrational" label to mock my three somewhat rational fears, so I've added a completely irrational fear here. :)

Fear: I count steps, and I try to use my right foot on the last step every time. I have this weird fear that if I don't, something terrible will happen.

My original (somewhat) rational fears:

Fear: I'm wasting my life at a job I don't care about

Reality: While I relate to the original poster in this thread (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/burnout-and-depression-first-world-problems/), where I genuinely don't care about the work I do and have very little passion, I'm doing this for a reason that matters to me. I have the historically rare opportunity to save and earn so much money that I never have to work for essentials again. What an awesome thing!


Fear: I have this nagging fear of losing my job and being unable to find another job that pays as much (thus severely impacting my time-to-FI).

Reality: This is doubly irrational as I contrast it with my first fear! I work in a growth industry, and my role directly produces revenue. By all metrics, I'm doing fine and may even be slightly better than average (I've confirmed this with my management and in my own metrics). I have no debt (not even a mortgage!) and thousands and thousands of dollars saved up. I could quit now and live for years without starving. I have a genuine desire to improve, and a willingness to listen. I am a highly employable person.


Fear: I'm afraid I'm not good enough--a fraud, waiting to be exposed.

This is the most annoying attribute of my high-achieving personality. Internally, I have these little voices that push me to gain acclaim. I keep a mental list of "achievements" to prove my worth. I'm aggressively goal-oriented and relentless in achieving external accolades. Literally any metric that is used for measurement of worth turns into an internal competition (including, ironically, FIRE).

Reality: I'm no more a fraud than anyone else. Everyone deals with weaknesses, and though I'm acutely aware of mine, nobody else cares about my weaknesses as much as I do. The world doesn't revolve around me, and I'm just another collection of dust in the wind. In 100 years I'll be dead, and my gravestone (if I'm lucky enough to have one) will last longer than I did. What am I really worried about?

Your turn!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: Chris22 on August 02, 2016, 11:05:36 AM
Heights. 

Also, spiders in confined spaces like my shed or crawlspace.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: ShoulderThingThatGoesUp on August 02, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
Every plane flight I've been on for the past five years, I've been convinced we were about to crash at least once during the flight. As the engine noise goes away during preparation for landing, I have to say to myself "Gotta slow down to get down. Gotta slow down to get down."
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: russianswinga on August 02, 2016, 05:06:40 PM
Fear that I will meet the 4% or 25X spending rule, retire, and the market will immediately tank 50%
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: woopwoop on August 02, 2016, 05:17:58 PM
Fear:  that something will cut open my wrists if I hold them facing upwards. I blame this on watching one of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies when I was a kid when the guy cut open some lady's wrists and used her tendons as puppetstrings.

Reality: Uh, it's totally irrational for me to fear this.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: yourusernamehere on August 02, 2016, 06:19:08 PM

Fear:  If I bowl like a normal human then when I try to let the ball loose down the alley my fingers will get stuck and they will break.

Reality: See MrsWhipple's fine explanation. (But mostly I don't go bowling.)
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: IndyPendent on August 02, 2016, 07:20:04 PM
Fear that I will meet the 4% or 25X spending rule, retire, and the market will immediately tank 50%

I have this too!


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Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: YogiKitti on August 02, 2016, 11:22:54 PM
My irrational fear is that if I ride a road bike the skinny tire will get stuck in a crack and I will crash horribly.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: marty998 on August 03, 2016, 02:14:39 AM
My irrational fear is that if I ride a road bike the skinny tire will get stuck in a crack and I will crash horribly.

I never ever step on cracks in concrete. There is absolutely no basis for why. I just don't do it.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: gooki on August 03, 2016, 02:58:50 AM
Step on a crack marry a rat. Step in a hole marry a mole.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Making Cookies on August 03, 2016, 07:26:20 AM
I fear the leadership at my job will do something unwise and submarine the whole operation suddenly. Like overnight. And they won't I know but I still worry about it.

Am getting to that age when I ought to be earning my best money and looking forward to regular retirement. What if I had to rejoin the job market?

Edited: for content b/c the first 500 revisions aren't good enough.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: frugalnacho on August 03, 2016, 09:35:37 AM
Spiders.  I hate em.  More than I know I should.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: CheapskateWife on August 03, 2016, 09:42:39 AM
Zombies...they are under my bed, just waiting to grab my ankles and drag me under to dine on my fine brains.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Zikoris on August 03, 2016, 10:03:16 AM
Open closet doors. Flying insects if they're indoors (outside is fine). The dark.

Fortunately, I have a very understanding and accommodating SO.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: GrumpyPenguin on August 03, 2016, 11:47:50 AM
Fear that I will meet the 4% or 25X spending rule, retire, and the market will immediately tank 50%

I have this too!


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Me three!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: eljefe-speaks on August 03, 2016, 11:55:51 AM
Trump
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Kaspian on August 03, 2016, 12:11:21 PM
Crocodiles, alligators, and zombies.  ....Other than those, I have no real fears.  (Except maybe that I someday get married and she ends up being a total shrew?)

I do have full-on panic attacks though when I'm in an enclosed place where there's lots of people and no windows (e.g., every mall and department store out there.)  Seriously--if I was told I had to spend a week in a mall or fight a lion in hand-to-hand combat, I guess me and kitty cat would have to go at it.  For some reason I'm fine in airports and at rock concerts--so that part is good.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Digital Dogma on August 03, 2016, 02:04:12 PM
Fear: Everything in the road is nails. Bag? Bag of nails. Box? Box of nails. Roadkill? Died eating a box of nails, now contains nails.

Reality: Only 1/3 of the objects I pull out of my tire are nails.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: cube.37 on August 03, 2016, 02:33:45 PM
While I'm washing out the shampoo in my hair with my eyes closed, someone will come up behind me and slit my throat...
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: iris lily on August 03, 2016, 02:51:30 PM
My dog is stolen from my yard. DH is shot while working in our gardens over in the adjoining neighborhood.

We,live in an urban core so it is not entirely irrational.

Re:spiders--I have pet daddy long legs spiders, so some of you should never visit me. I let thir webs alne and watch out doe them. Our current kitchen spider has been there about two weeks.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Lanthiriel on August 03, 2016, 02:57:20 PM
Fear: I have this nagging fear of losing my job and being unable to find another job that pays as much (thus severely impacting my time-to-FI).

Reality: This is doubly irrational as I contrast it with my first fear! I work in a growth industry, and my role directly produces revenue. By all metrics, I'm doing fine and may even be slightly better than average (I've confirmed this with my management and in my own metrics). I have no debt (not even a mortgage!) and thousands and thousands of dollars saved up. I could quit now and live for years without starving. I have a genuine desire to improve, and a willingness to listen. I am a highly employable person.

I have this fear too and am more in your boat, thank goodness. Unfortunately my husband recently lost his job, and it's looking exceedingly likely that he will not be able to entirely replace his income. So this fear has become a reality for me. Yay life.

Fear: Everything in the road is nails. Bag? Bag of nails. Box? Box of nails. Roadkill? Died eating a box of nails, now contains nails.

Reality: Only 1/3 of the objects I pull out of my tire are nails.

I have a similar fear except that I think all bags and boxes are full of... kittens. In the Disney movie Oliver and Company, little Oliver is left in a box after his siblings are given away and then gets washed around busy streets dodging cars. Watching this movie as a child, I apparently found this so traumatizing that I made an involuntary sad sound every time I see a box on the side of the road and my husband asks, "kittens?" and then laughs at me. Which is reasonable.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Making Cookies on August 03, 2016, 03:20:06 PM
Trump

Thank you for that. Not to derail the discussion but this guy has to be some sort of genius or loon.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Dancing Fool on August 03, 2016, 03:54:04 PM
After watching any sort of horror movie / TV show or reading a book in the same genre: fear that something terrifying will pop out of the dark and attack me in my home. This probably led to some "WTF is going on?" thoughts from my parents if they heard me sprinting up from the living room when I was a teenager and habitually staying up later than them (I still do as a young adult, but I don't still live with them). I'm pretty good at rationally talking myself out of it now (DIY CBT?) but I also intentionally avoid that genre whenever possible.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Chris22 on August 03, 2016, 04:06:26 PM
Re:spiders--I have pet daddy long legs spiders, so some of you should never visit me. I let thir webs alne and watch out doe them. Our current kitchen spider has been there about two weeks.

I'm not even that scared of spiders, I have just this fear that I'll be in a small space and a spider will pop up out of nowhere and jump on me and I won't be able to maneuver to get it off, or something.  Not sure.  I see spiders just chillin' when I'm in the yard, and I'm cool with them.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Exhale on August 03, 2016, 05:54:48 PM
Pre-FIRE I had THE FEAR (as I called it, all in caps) that I'd die or be horribly disabled before I could RE and enjoy that sweet freedom.

1. THE FEAR (see above)
2. Lack of sufficient health care (I live with a chronic illness)
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: TheGrimSqueaker on August 03, 2016, 09:43:49 PM
I'm afraid my offspring will be an absolute spendaholic imbecile with money despite my best efforts.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: iris lily on August 03, 2016, 10:37:06 PM
Oh yeah, creapster int he shower when
I have soap n my eyes--
I have that fear.

Mechancal failure in vehicles of any oind, yes, have that too.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: scrubbyfish on August 03, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
A couple of days ago, I got very confused at a sign about pets. I genuinely wondered for some moments if I was one. Then I managed to convince myself I'm human.

And yet, this thread makes me feel so sane ;)

Love it, following!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: onehair on August 04, 2016, 08:48:57 AM
Fireworks, balloons, anything explosive including guns-I have had this fear since I was small I don't know why.  It used to be worse when I was little my mom claims I would have an accident out of fear.  Now I avoid them and if they're far from me I can function and usually hide on 4th of July especially.  On the upside you will never see me at war re enactments.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: Goldielocks on August 04, 2016, 10:40:32 AM

Fear:  If I bowl like a normal human then when I try to let the ball loose down the alley my fingers will get stuck and they will break.

Reality: See MrsWhipple's fine explanation. (But mostly I don't go bowling.)

I have broken / smashed a finger (just the tip) this way.   I was very uncoordinated.  Try 5 pin bowling instead -- no holes.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Making Cookies on August 04, 2016, 12:43:20 PM
I'm years behind on TV. Haven't seen most of the various series that have gotten the most attention in the media or pop-culture. On the topic of zombies - I've only seen a few shows/movies so the genre isn't worn out for me yet.

I'm very early into the Walking Dead series. I watch a few episodes a year?

I also like to walk our dog after the kids go to bed. So ~10PM, walking alone through the dark semi-rural neighborhood. No street lights which I prefer. Just a few porch lights here and there.

I don't watch WD on the nights I take that walk anymore.

One night I nearly walked into a teenager in the dark that I think was sneaking out of the house and waiting for his ride around the corner from his house.

Months later I think it was him that almost ran over me on a bicycle in the dark with no lights on. All I heard was his feet dragging on the street when they slipped off of the pedals. I think I scared him as much as he scared me both times. i think he tried to brake but his feet slipped off of the pedals. Didn't know what that sound was coming at me in the dark. Animal? Monster? Supernatural?

I generally carry some sort of small flashlight but not always. 
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: OurTown on August 04, 2016, 01:04:17 PM
Quote
Trump

I'm pretty sure he's actually Andy Kaufman.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: GuitarStv on August 04, 2016, 01:11:24 PM
I'm deeply concerned about the environmental impact that people are having on the planet, particularly since there seems to be little real attempt to mitigate the problem while it's somewhat controllable.  It makes me wonder what kind of world my son will grow up and live in.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: PencilThinStash on August 04, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
Fear: That I'll randomly pass out in the middle of flossing my teeth one night, and the floss will cut off the circulation to my index fingers long enough that the tissue will die and I'll have to get the fingers amputated when I wake up.

Reality: My dentist friend makes fun of me and will occasionally remind me to be afraid, just in case I've forgotten. She's a twisted one.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: forumname123 on August 04, 2016, 01:18:44 PM

Fear:  If I bowl like a normal human then when I try to let the ball loose down the alley my fingers will get stuck and they will break.

Reality: See MrsWhipple's fine explanation. (But mostly I don't go bowling.)

I have broken / smashed a finger (just the tip) this way.   I was very uncoordinated.  Try 5 pin bowling instead -- no holes.


I recently learned that 5 pin bowling is purely a Canadian thing. So many blank stares every time I bring it up...
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Tay_CPA on August 04, 2016, 01:30:32 PM
Irrational fear: Pigeons! And other birds flying near me. I feel like they are going to crash straight into my face and get their wings and creepy little talons stuck in my hair. *shudder*

I've screamed and ducked out of the way in public at least three times in the last month as a result of a pigeon flying straight at or near me. To be fair, in one case another girl also screamed at the same time when a pigeon decided to fly very closely between us.

BF pokes lots of fun at me about this fear... I do feel quite ridiculous sometimes.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: scrubbyfish on August 04, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
Oh, I remember mine! Getting mauled by a bear or cougar! (We have both here, including hanging around the yard.)

As a result, I don't hike alone and, since I have no hiking buddy, it means I don't hike at all, and I WANT TO.

I don't know whether it's rational or not. Within three days of declaring I would go for it, one woman near me went missing and another was attacked by a bear. So...???? (Both women are fine now.)
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: TheGrimSqueaker on August 04, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Irrational fear: Pigeons! And other birds flying near me. I feel like they are going to crash straight into my face and get their wings and creepy little talons stuck in my hair. *shudder*

I've screamed and ducked out of the way in public at least three times in the last month as a result of a pigeon flying straight at or near me. To be fair, in one case another girl also screamed at the same time when a pigeon decided to fly very closely between us.

BF pokes lots of fun at me about this fear... I do feel quite ridiculous sometimes.

Nonsense! A timely dodge prevented you from being the victim of a drive-by shitting.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Tay_CPA on August 04, 2016, 03:34:58 PM
Irrational fear: Pigeons! And other birds flying near me. I feel like they are going to crash straight into my face and get their wings and creepy little talons stuck in my hair. *shudder*

I've screamed and ducked out of the way in public at least three times in the last month as a result of a pigeon flying straight at or near me. To be fair, in one case another girl also screamed at the same time when a pigeon decided to fly very closely between us.

BF pokes lots of fun at me about this fear... I do feel quite ridiculous sometimes.

Nonsense! A timely dodge prevented you from being the victim of a drive-by shitting.

Hahaha well thank you, I appreciate the support. A bird actually shat directly on my face as I walked under a tree several years ago. Thinking it was water or something, I instinctively reached up to wipe it off then had to run into the nearest building to find a bathroom with bird poo on both my face and hand... I think my fear of birds intensified after that XD
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Aimza on August 04, 2016, 03:37:40 PM
Fear: If I put a sock or shoe on my right foot first instead of my left foot, something bad will happen.

Reality: I purposely do this sometimes just to test fate, but then I'm scared of what will happen. I guess I'm a daredevil.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: yourusernamehere on August 04, 2016, 04:10:43 PM

Fear:  If I bowl like a normal human then when I try to let the ball loose down the alley my fingers will get stuck and they will break.

Reality: See MrsWhipple's fine explanation. (But mostly I don't go bowling.)

I have broken / smashed a finger (just the tip) this way.   I was very uncoordinated.  Try 5 pin bowling instead -- no holes.


I recently learned that 5 pin bowling is purely a Canadian thing. So many blank stares every time I bring it up...

Luckily I'm in South Canada (Niagara Falls NY), so I've heard of it! I've never done it though, so I had no idea about the lack of holes.

Also I'm not at all thrilled to learn that this has actually happened, goldilocks! Hope it wasn't too painful for you. Only 5 pin bowling from now on!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: nnls on August 04, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
I have to walk on the right hand side of people (so they are always on my left) or else I feel uncomfortable and like something very bad is going to happen.

I also have different coloured pegs I have to use on each line of my clothes line when drying laundry, as in one line has blue pegs, one has grey, one black and so on.

When I was a kid I had heaps of different things (food eaten in colour and clockwise order, couldn't wear certain colours on certain days), but I am a lot less irrational now.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: bobechs on August 04, 2016, 06:05:30 PM
My irrational fear is that if I ride a road bike the skinny tire will get stuck in a crack and I will crash horribly.

I never ever step on cracks in concrete. There is absolutely no basis for why. I just don't do it.

Sure there is a basis, and a damned good one: you'll break your mother's back.

Reclassify this one rational.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Lia-Aimee on August 04, 2016, 06:12:28 PM
Fear: That people are dead. Specifically, that someone is dead when he or she doesn't answer his/her phone.  This is primarily limited to my parents, s.o. and sister, but I have this fear with friends and even colleagues & clients when they don't pick up the phone.

Reality: Well it's likely that my parents and s.o. will pass away before me, but otherwise it has me checking twitter for traffic accidents a lot (found out my dad was in hospital this way before my mum knew, so, there's some benefit?") Also it made dating quite interesting - boyfriend doesn't pick up his phone? Please be cheating on me instead of dead!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: iris lily on August 04, 2016, 06:57:37 PM
Our friend had an irrational fear of rats coming up through his toilet in the basement. But then, he did see claw marks around the toilet. Ugh. This was so e years ago.

Last night he said he saw a rat eating cat food in his kitchen. Ugh.

I think he has rat problems.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: nnls on August 04, 2016, 07:15:25 PM
Fear: That people are dead. Specifically, that someone is dead when he or she doesn't answer his/her phone.  This is primarily limited to my parents, s.o. and sister, but I have this fear with friends and even colleagues & clients when they don't pick up the phone.

Reality: Well it's likely that my parents and s.o. will pass away before me, but otherwise it has me checking twitter for traffic accidents a lot (found out my dad was in hospital this way before my mum knew, so, there's some benefit?") Also it made dating quite interesting - boyfriend doesn't pick up his phone? Please be cheating on me instead of dead!

I have something similiar to this, but also get worried when someone calls me, I always assume its bad news. So if my aunt calls I assume its to tell me my mum has passed away, if my boss calls I assume its to tell me I am fired.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: IndyPendent on August 04, 2016, 08:13:00 PM
These are awesome and make me feel like I'm in good company (i.e. not crazy, or at least not crazier than others). Keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Cyaphas on August 04, 2016, 08:28:46 PM
Clinton will win the presidency.

Trump will win the presidency.

My children will grow up in chains while constantly being told they're free.

Babies. (Always afraid I'm going to drop them or something. So precious.)

Zombies. The real ones.

People with nothing to lose.

Nervous people in positions of power.

My huberis.

Dieing in some senseless random way. (Hitting my head on a curb after I tripped or something.)

Nothing. (In the sense that some time in the future there may actually only be nothing. No stars. No planets or life. Just nothing.)

Idiots and the power they wield.

EDIT:

Clowns. Creepy as hell.

Crowds. I'm usually afraid I may run someone over or lose track of the people I'm with.




Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Typhoid Mary on August 04, 2016, 08:44:27 PM
My most active irrational fear is somewhat rational because it could happen, but the chances are minuscule so it's mostly irrational, but I obsess about active shooter situations in our local schools. I have two elementary aged daughters and also recently became employed in the local school system. We have active shooter drills (like fire drills or tornado drills only way more fun) and then I have nightmares about my kids getting shot in the hallway at school and they are left to bleed in the hallway and die by themselves and then I wake up crying. It's awesome.   /sarcasm
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: JAYSLOL on August 04, 2016, 10:42:43 PM
Fear: Everything in the road is nails. Bag? Bag of nails. Box? Box of nails. Roadkill? Died eating a box of nails, now contains nails.

Reality: Only 1/3 of the objects I pull out of my tire are nails.

LOL, i liked this one.

Mine is probably food, that if i make something that I didn't cook it or prepare it right and it'll kill me.  I know it irrational because i have zero fear of anything that anyone else cooks and i haven't died yet from my cooking. 

Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: TheGrimSqueaker on August 05, 2016, 12:03:52 AM
I sometimes also worry that I'll misplace my scythe.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: The Money Monk on August 05, 2016, 12:34:31 AM
luckily I don't have many specific phobia type fears. If I had to name one, it would be fear of being weak, which actually helps overcome any other fears I might have. For example, not matter how afraid I might be of doing something, my fear of being a wussy overrides it so I can do it.

The 'fear' that probably has affected me the most though is an opportunity cost / choice paralysis thing. I am always worried about what I could be potentially missing out on. It's not a crippling or even significant anxiety, but it has caused me to be reluctant or slow to make some major decisions. Not because I am worried about negative consequences, but because I am worried about missing out on positive ones that I passed up. Very strange.

Hard to shake because it isn't even an illogical way to think, it's just not practical or helpful.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: The Money Monk on August 05, 2016, 12:39:56 AM
My most active irrational fear is somewhat rational because it could happen, but the chances are minuscule so it's mostly irrational, but I obsess about active shooter situations in our local schools. I have two elementary aged daughters and also recently became employed in the local school system. We have active shooter drills (like fire drills or tornado drills only way more fun) and then I have nightmares about my kids getting shot in the hallway at school and they are left to bleed in the hallway and die by themselves and then I wake up crying. It's awesome.   /sarcasm

Homeschool and carry your own guns.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Dezrah on August 05, 2016, 07:27:33 AM
When I'm up in a high place I get this irrational fear that I will drop whatever it is I'm holding and it will fall, break, and be gone forever.  If you see me at the top of a scenic tower, I will have everything strapped around my body with a death grip on whatever's in my hand.

I get a similar sensation when I have a helium balloon on a string.  I can't relax unless it's tied to my wrist.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Making Cookies on August 05, 2016, 07:31:57 AM
Irrational fear: Pigeons! And other birds flying near me. I feel like they are going to crash straight into my face and get their wings and creepy little talons stuck in my hair. *shudder*

I've screamed and ducked out of the way in public at least three times in the last month as a result of a pigeon flying straight at or near me. To be fair, in one case another girl also screamed at the same time when a pigeon decided to fly very closely between us.

BF pokes lots of fun at me about this fear... I do feel quite ridiculous sometimes.

My eldest got hit in the face by a low flying bat. Last night riding a bike. Returned to the house wide eyed. Bat survived.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: doingmybest on August 05, 2016, 11:28:06 AM
Hippopotamuses, for real.

Reality:  I live in Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: GuitarStv on August 05, 2016, 12:58:22 PM
Hippopotamuses, for real.

That's a valid fear.  Those things are scary motherfuckers.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: YogiKitti on August 05, 2016, 09:55:27 PM
Our friend had an irrational fear of rats coming up through his toilet in the basement. But then, he did see claw marks around the toilet. Ugh. This was so e years ago.


This can really happen!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: doggyfizzle on August 05, 2016, 10:22:18 PM
Black widow spiders, and now their brown widow cousins that are invading all of Southern California.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: scrubbyfish on August 05, 2016, 11:40:34 PM
This thread is helping me see how many phobias I've overcome (balloons, spiders, etc)! Maybe I can totally take on the bear and cougar one! But not heights and bungee jumping. Just no.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: yourusernamehere on August 06, 2016, 10:14:15 AM
This thread is helping me see how many phobias I've overcome (balloons, spiders, etc)! Maybe I can totally take on the bear and cougar one! But not heights and bungee jumping. Just no.
This thread is giving me new phobias I never thought of before. I think I'm doing it wrong!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: ShoulderThingThatGoesUp on August 06, 2016, 02:16:23 PM
Hippopotamuses, for real.

Reality:  I live in Pennsylvania.

Don't go to the Camden Aquarium.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Astatine on August 12, 2016, 06:23:01 AM
I don't think my fear of venomous spiders  is particularly irrational, although I do tend to overreact compared to the actual threat. However, I am a bit phobic of big but relatively harmless spiders and I do classify that as an irrational fear.

Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: andy85 on August 12, 2016, 06:28:21 AM
Wasps. F those things.

Got stung by like 5 at once when i was like 8 years old...every since then i'm pretty sure i have a legit phobia of them. They terrifyyyyyyyyyy me.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: CarrieWillard on August 12, 2016, 07:59:10 AM
Sitting down on a toilet only to find there is a snake/rat/alligator/weasel/whatevs in there trying to get OUT as soon as I sit. This came after news reports that such things were actually happening. I checked before sitting for YEARS and have gotten lax lately.

Having my kids being a victim of violent crime. This motivated our move to a safer area in our state (GA), although if I had my way I would move much farther away. But family. :-/

The recent home invasion/torture/killing people for $20/setting elderly people on fire/raped for 5 days/immigrants who don't believe rape is wrong raping/rash of criminality has set this off. Irrational? Probably not.

Knives pointing towards me. Always gotta move 'em.

Having a needle (say, for an IV) break OFF inside my body.

Pit bulls. I grew up raising dogs and like them but pits just LOOK evil to me with those slanty eyes. They look like the Deliverance inbred creature. Plus their owners are often thugs and abusive.





Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Hall11235 on August 12, 2016, 11:38:05 AM
My irrational fear is that if I ride a road bike the skinny tire will get stuck in a crack and I will crash horribly.

This is me 100%. I actually stopped road biking because of that. Also, bombing the downhills in races terrified me. That tire is so damn skinny!

My irrational fear is bodies of water where I can't see the bottom. I refuse to swim in the ocean and lakes. Pools are fine. I am afraid there is a shark down there, even if it is freshwater (hence the irrational...)

Reason: Literally my earliest memory of Childhood is my daycare lady's son forcing me watch Jaws. I must have been 4 at the time. That F***** ruined open water swimming for me for the rest of my life.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Hall11235 on August 12, 2016, 11:46:59 AM
Ooops... Forgot one more.

I can't sleep in open rooms (I classify anything with an open door or where I can't see the entirety of as open). This last week has been particularly awful, as my GF is away and sleeping alone in a bed where I can't see the whole apartment is terrifying. For some reason, I don't have this issue when I sleep with someone. Probably because I am sure the monster will eat her first, and then I can defend myself (because I ALWAYS sleep against the wall).
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: patchyfacialhair on August 12, 2016, 12:10:46 PM
That a doll will become alive and attack me.

Irrational because: When I was a wee lad, my babysitter's teenage son tricked me into watching "Child's Play," by asking me if I wanted to "see Chucky." 5-year old me is thinking Chucky from Rugrats the cartoon. Cue a couple decades of irrational fear. I actually watched Child's Play in high school, and it's a completely un-scary and silly movie, yet I still cringe when I see a doll in real life.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: renaite on August 12, 2016, 04:59:36 PM
...

My irrational fear is bodies of water where I can't see the bottom. I refuse to swim in the ocean and lakes. Pools are fine. I am afraid there is a shark down there, even if it is freshwater (hence the irrational...)

Reason: Literally my earliest memory of Childhood is my daycare lady's son forcing me watch Jaws. I must have been 4 at the time. That F***** ruined open water swimming for me for the rest of my life.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0719_050719_bullsharks_2.html

"While bull sharks are commonly found along coastlines, bays, and harbors, they also frequent a most uncommon shark habitat—freshwater rivers.

The species has been spotted 2,500 miles (4,000 kilometers) up the Amazon River in South America and dwell in Lake Nicaragua, a freshwater lake in Central America. Bull sharks have traveled up the Mississippi River as far north as Illinois and are regularly spotted in India's Ganges."

This might not be better, but maybe less irrational?

Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Mesmoiselle on August 13, 2016, 04:14:13 AM
I am so afraid of not feeling something that is being done to me that I decline numbing for my cavities to be drilled. The few times I do decide that the pain may actually be too much to breathe through, and accept anesthesia? My pulse shoots through the roof as I have a panic attack; all good, I'm soon knocked out.

I imagine zombie apocalypse while driving down the road. I expect to see cars suddenly swerve and crash and then running humans jumping...anyway. driving isn't relaxing for me.

I fear my husband dying so badly that I can see it happening at any given time for a variety of reasons and burst into tears. Even though he's very likely to outlive me. To be honest.

I also fear the nothing of death; the ending of me that I have tried so hard to learn and improve. All that effort wasted. But apparently not enough to lie to myself and take up a religion.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Making Cookies on August 13, 2016, 09:19:23 AM
Being taken advantage of.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: GuitarStv on August 16, 2016, 06:49:40 AM
I also fear the nothing of death; the ending of me that I have tried so hard to learn and improve. All that effort wasted. But apparently not enough to lie to myself and take up a religion.

I think that you're looking at death in the wrong light.

If God doesn't exist, and there is no heaven/hell then death is nothing to be feared.  The only thing that can hurt you is pain.  There is no pain after death - there is nothing.  Losing all that you've worked hard to learn and improve won't matter after death, so why let it negatively affect your time living by worrying about it?
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: Torran on August 16, 2016, 06:58:48 AM
Every plane flight I've been on for the past five years, I've been convinced we were about to crash at least once during the flight. As the engine noise goes away during preparation for landing, I have to say to myself "Gotta slow down to get down. Gotta slow down to get down."

I have exactly the same fear, and I mean, word-for-word what you said. Every time I'm on a plane I'm thinking 'this is the one that will crash', after people have told me the statistics on how rare plane crashes are. Every time the plane starts to change in sound/feel because the pilot is preparing for landing, I'm sitting there thinking 'we have to slow down before we can land... this is normal... it's not about to crash'.

It's awful.

I spoke to a pilot once about this and I could tell by his face that he felt kind of sorry for me, because he could see how utterly, utterly irrational my fear was. Like if someone told me they were too scared to ever get into a car (even though cars are SO MUCH MORE DANGEROUS than planes) I'd be thinking 'wow it must suck having your life controlled by such an irrational fear'.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 16, 2016, 07:23:50 AM
Damnit. I was going to post to say that I don't have any irrational fears, but after reading through this thread, I'm afraid that I'm going to pick up on some of your irrational fears. Screw you all.

:)
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: Making Cookies on August 16, 2016, 08:18:33 AM
Every plane flight I've been on for the past five years, I've been convinced we were about to crash at least once during the flight. As the engine noise goes away during preparation for landing, I have to say to myself "Gotta slow down to get down. Gotta slow down to get down."

I have exactly the same fear, and I mean, word-for-word what you said. Every time I'm on a plane I'm thinking 'this is the one that will crash', after people have told me the statistics on how rare plane crashes are. Every time the plane starts to change in sound/feel because the pilot is preparing for landing, I'm sitting there thinking 'we have to slow down before we can land... this is normal... it's not about to crash'.

It's awful.

I spoke to a pilot once about this and I could tell by his face that he felt kind of sorry for me, because he could see how utterly, utterly irrational my fear was. Like if someone told me they were too scared to ever get into a car (even though cars are SO MUCH MORE DANGEROUS than planes) I'd be thinking 'wow it must suck having your life controlled by such an irrational fear'.

I spend the rare flights I take analyzing all the things I don't understand. The last time the plane had two under wing engines. On one side was a normal sounding jet engine. The other side sounded like a big Briggs & Stratton go-cart / lawnmower engine. Kept wondering if that meant something was worn out or not adjusted correctly. 
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: greytbigdog on August 16, 2016, 08:57:58 AM
Probably because I am sure the monster will eat her first, and then I can defend myself (because I ALWAYS sleep against the wall).

I make DH sleep on the side of the bed near the window, I want the side near the door.  Doesn't matter if it's the left or right side.  Because whatever is coming through the window is going to be way more terrifying that what is coming through the door.

House centipedes.  Threw the lights on last week while screaming "Get it!" to DH.  He freaked thinking it was something actually scary.  It was a centipede running across the living room floor.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Spork on August 16, 2016, 09:10:54 AM
For me it is tight, enclosed spaces... but ONLY if it is hot.  I can handle cool tight places.  Add a little heat/humidity and my brain just turns into a paranoid going-to-die-real-soon engine.  Texas attics in the summer are fun.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: scrubbyfish on August 16, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
...people have told me the statistics on how rare plane crashes are.

I know! Statistics never help me because I've been on the crap end of stats so many times. It's just never an assurance anymore. I'm not sure how they are for anyone. If you're the 1 in 100, why would it help that 99 weren't? Multiply that by the dozen times I've been the one.

After declaring a few weeks ago that I would ignore my irrational fear of bears and cougars, two people in BC were attacked by bears and one by a cougar. I think they, too, give not a whit about stats right now (two are fine, a child is in serious condition and this makes me crazy and I imagine her parents far moreso).
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Hall11235 on August 16, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Probably because I am sure the monster will eat her first, and then I can defend myself (because I ALWAYS sleep against the wall).

I make DH sleep on the side of the bed near the window, I want the side near the door.  Doesn't matter if it's the left or right side.  Because whatever is coming through the window is going to be way more terrifying that what is coming through the door.

House centipedes.  Threw the lights on last week while screaming "Get it!" to DH.  He freaked thinking it was something actually scary.  It was a centipede running across the living room floor.

That's why I prefer to sleep in dark, small, windowless spaces, like a closet.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Hall11235 on August 16, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
...

My irrational fear is bodies of water where I can't see the bottom. I refuse to swim in the ocean and lakes. Pools are fine. I am afraid there is a shark down there, even if it is freshwater (hence the irrational...)

Reason: Literally my earliest memory of Childhood is my daycare lady's son forcing me watch Jaws. I must have been 4 at the time. That F***** ruined open water swimming for me for the rest of my life.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0719_050719_bullsharks_2.html

"While bull sharks are commonly found along coastlines, bays, and harbors, they also frequent a most uncommon shark habitat—freshwater rivers.

The species has been spotted 2,500 miles (4,000 kilometers) up the Amazon River in South America and dwell in Lake Nicaragua, a freshwater lake in Central America. Bull sharks have traveled up the Mississippi River as far north as Illinois and are regularly spotted in India's Ganges."

This might not be better, but maybe less irrational?

Well, that's horrifying. Thanks! Now I have statistics to back up my insanity to my in-laws!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: frugalnacho on August 16, 2016, 10:06:11 AM
Having some component of my bike fail catastrophically sending me flying into the pavement.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Mesmoiselle on August 16, 2016, 10:42:22 AM
I also fear the nothing of death; the ending of me that I have tried so hard to learn and improve. All that effort wasted. But apparently not enough to lie to myself and take up a religion.

I think that you're looking at death in the wrong light.

If God doesn't exist, and there is no heaven/hell then death is nothing to be feared.  The only thing that can hurt you is pain.  There is no pain after death - there is nothing.  Losing all that you've worked hard to learn and improve won't matter after death, so why let it negatively affect your time living by worrying about it?

I get all that. But I'm alive now and trying to conceptualize "nothing" is scary to me.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Spork on August 16, 2016, 11:07:27 AM
Probably because I am sure the monster will eat her first, and then I can defend myself (because I ALWAYS sleep against the wall).

I make DH sleep on the side of the bed near the window, I want the side near the door.  Doesn't matter if it's the left or right side.  Because whatever is coming through the window is going to be way more terrifying that what is coming through the door.

House centipedes.  Threw the lights on last week while screaming "Get it!" to DH.  He freaked thinking it was something actually scary.  It was a centipede running across the living room floor.

You would hate it around here.  There are about 3 weeks at the end of summer/beginning of fall where we have thousands of millipedes.  Before our current house, we lived in a not-so-airtight metal workshop on the same property.   The entire 600 sqft floor would be 100% covered with them.  You could HEAR them moving.  You would start at one corner with a broom sweeping them up.  When you got to the opposite corner and turned around, the floor would have repopulated.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: No Name Guy on August 16, 2016, 11:50:52 AM
I get all that. But I'm alive now and trying to conceptualize "nothing" is scary to me.

Ever been under general anesthetic?  Closest experience I can imagine.  Wisdom teeth for me......
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Tris Prior on August 16, 2016, 03:19:21 PM
Anything that would result in a loss of independence, or otherwise having my choices taken away from me. (becoming a quadriplegic or losing limbs, brain injury, dementia, being forced to caregive, government takes away all women's rights a la "Handmaid's Tale," various dystopian scenarios like "Hunger Games," nuclear war, etc.)

Being shot, or Boyfriend being shot. (not out of the realm of possibility; my neighborhood has a lot of shootings and several bystanders have been hit accidentally during drive-bys this summer.)

Also, wasps and yellow jackets. Those assholes are mean.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: AlwaysLearningToSave on August 16, 2016, 04:02:31 PM
Having some component of my bike fail catastrophically sending me flying into the pavement.

I dare say that one is a completely rational fear given your experience.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Astatine on August 16, 2016, 04:37:38 PM
Every plane flight I've been on for the past five years, I've been convinced we were about to crash at least once during the flight. As the engine noise goes away during preparation for landing, I have to say to myself "Gotta slow down to get down. Gotta slow down to get down."

I have exactly the same fear, and I mean, word-for-word what you said. Every time I'm on a plane I'm thinking 'this is the one that will crash', after people have told me the statistics on how rare plane crashes are. Every time the plane starts to change in sound/feel because the pilot is preparing for landing, I'm sitting there thinking 'we have to slow down before we can land... this is normal... it's not about to crash'.

It's awful.

I spoke to a pilot once about this and I could tell by his face that he felt kind of sorry for me, because he could see how utterly, utterly irrational my fear was. Like if someone told me they were too scared to ever get into a car (even though cars are SO MUCH MORE DANGEROUS than planes) I'd be thinking 'wow it must suck having your life controlled by such an irrational fear'.


I binge-watched all of the series of Aircrash Investigations a while ago (skipping the episodes about terrorism). Everyone I've told has said, so does that mean you're now nervous to fly? Nope. Not at all, as long as it's a plane that seats >20 people and the airline company is a large and well-known one. However, I'm not sure I will ever be able to bring myself to get on a small plane in remote areas run by small, run on the smell of an oily rag company. That seems to be where the risks are.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: ck25 on August 16, 2016, 07:02:41 PM
Vomiting. I've had a fear of it since I was old enough to remember. Irrational because I haven't done it myself in right around ten years and because it's probably not that bad and for sure not the worst thing that could happen. It's somewhat conducive to Mustachianism since I am very very tempted to avoid travel, things outside of my comfort zone, and all eating out. But then... it's also unconducive because I spend $400/month on therapy.

Every plane flight I've been on for the past five years, I've been convinced we were about to crash at least once during the flight. As the engine noise goes away during preparation for landing, I have to say to myself "Gotta slow down to get down. Gotta slow down to get down."

DH was at one point very very subconsciously anxious about flying. That is, he did not actively have thoughts like this, but he would vomit repeatedly from anxiety from origin to destination. We made quite a pair on flights...
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: driftwood on August 17, 2016, 06:33:44 AM
That I will either spend spend most of my 'life force' making money at high-paying soul-sucking-family-destroying-suit-wearing-jobs to avoid the fear below,

Or that I'll spend the rest of my life poor (poor = lack of freedom & choices for me, less the inability to buy expensive things) and be worried about how to support my family.

Pre-kids I didn't have either fear.  I can camp out and eat ramen to survive or work 80-hour weeks for 'the man' at a high wage in a clown suit.  Either end of the spectrum wasn't an issue. Now I'm trying to balance having a feeling of financial security with focusing on spending quality time with my family.


Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: greytbigdog on August 17, 2016, 07:49:20 AM
House centipedes.  Threw the lights on last week while screaming "Get it!" to DH.  He freaked thinking it was something actually scary.  It was a centipede running across the living room floor.

You would hate it around here.  There are about 3 weeks at the end of summer/beginning of fall where we have thousands of millipedes.  Before our current house, we lived in a not-so-airtight metal workshop on the same property.   The entire 600 sqft floor would be 100% covered with them.  You could HEAR them moving.  You would start at one corner with a broom sweeping them up.  When you got to the opposite corner and turned around, the floor would have repopulated.

That sounds absolutely horrible. 

Thanks for giving me nightmares tonight.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational fears
Post by: GuitarStv on August 17, 2016, 08:05:49 AM
Vomiting. I've had a fear of it since I was old enough to remember. Irrational because I haven't done it myself in right around ten years and because it's probably not that bad and for sure not the worst thing that could happen.

Valid fear.

I've broken my jaw, my nose twice, most of the knuckles on both hands, my wrists, my ankle, and sprained or dislocated many of the major joints on my body over a lifetime of doing martial arts.  A day of constant vomiting and high fever from food poisoning was worse than all that.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Goldielocks on August 17, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
When I am up on a roof, I fear that I will forget that I am on a roof and accidentally walk off of it. 
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Dezrah on August 18, 2016, 07:15:21 AM
I watched a documentary series following people as they struggled with various manifestations of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.  We all tend to have these irrational "what if" fears and thoughts.  A healthy brain can laugh it off and let it float out of their mind.  Obsessive brains get stuck and fixated on all these irrational fears even as they rationally know how silly it is.  It looked like a very painful way to live.  Furthermore there isn't really a cure for it, just therapy techniques to try to calm down the worst of their reactions.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: trailrated on August 18, 2016, 09:38:41 AM
Sometimes when I lay on my side I get super intense vertigo and the whole room just spins and I feel like I am holding onto the floor to keep myself from falling up. It always goes away in about 5 seconds but it scares the shit out of me to think one day it might stay longer.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Cyaphas on August 19, 2016, 11:47:27 AM
Last night I had a ridiculous abdominal cramp on my right side. Thus began the intense 'what if' health scenarios in my mind. Five minutes later I find myself on google, 10 minutes later, best case I have a disease, worst case, cancer.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: katstache92 on August 19, 2016, 12:28:06 PM
I know this has been said already... but spiders.

Little tiny ones, giant hairy ones, medium brown ones, poisonous, non-poisonous, doesn't matter.  All have me running out of the room and other people wondering where I went in such a hurry.  Living by myself is interesting.

I heard that tidbit about people eating spiders in their sleep the day before an egg sac in my bedroom let out about a hundred tiny little spiders right before I went to bed.  I think I was 8 or 9.  It was over.

Oddly I'm not scared of daddy long legs?

Fear: spiders
Reality: they're everywhere
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Cpa Cat on August 19, 2016, 01:19:50 PM
Fear: Zombie Apocalypse - If this gets into my head, I ruminate and can't sleep. What if I wake up and my husband is a zombie? What would I do with my cats if there's a zombie apocalypse? Where would we go? What would we do? Eug... I hate it. And yet I feel compelled to watch zombie movies.

Reality: I think this fear is less about the zombies, and more about my desire to resolve my anxieties by creating plans. I just can't create a plan that resolves this anxiety, so I fixate on it and let it keep me awake at nights.


Fear: Being trapped in a small enclosed space with other people.

Reality: Last year, I was going through a haunted house in St Louis and there was this pitch black fabric tube that you had to walk through. People were crowded in front of me and behind me. Everything was fine until the people in front stopped moving and the people behind kept pushing forward. I had a full-on panic attack. The first I've ever had. Right in the middle of what I refer to as the Womb Tube. Thankfully, the chances of me encountering a Womb Tube in my every day life are limited.

But it does make me nervous about the possibility of being stuck in an evacuation scenario with people refusing to move. I could easily have hurt someone in order to escape the Womb Tube. The only thing that prevented me from doing so was that the person directly in front of me was my husband, and I didn't want to hurt him. If he'd been a faceless stranger? I totally would have punched him in the head to get him moving.

Fear: Turning corners in hotel/apartment hallways, because ghosts are around the bend.

Reality: My dad let me watch The Shining when I was 7 years old. I have yet to encounter a ghost around the bend.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Making Cookies on August 19, 2016, 01:21:17 PM
Spiders: that's what vacuum cleaners are for. Vacuum cleaners with five feet of nozzle extensions.

Ghosts: I get your worries about ghosts. Saw "Salem's Lot" by accident when I was really young. Marked me for years. ;)

Claustrophobia: once worked on a big machine and had to lay under it to do the work. Tons of weight above me. No escape if it blew up or fell off of it's motor mounts. I knew these things would never happen but still... Am glad to have sought an education so I don't have to be that guy climbing under or into big machines or washing out tanks that require all sorts of safety gear b/c of a lack of oxygen inside the tank.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: norabird on August 19, 2016, 01:31:36 PM
Thanks Indypendent! I related to your irrational-rational fears.

This week I've been having one too: that my friends don't actually like me that much (have been struggling to get the participation I want in invites and had a bad experience last month with one specific person, which is coloring things).

The reality is that: My current friends absolutely participate in things with me, and I've just this week re-connected with two old contacts who seem genuinely excited to hear from me, as well as having some new friends who are actively planning to do more with me. One offered to give me a ride to Philly to volunteer and said 'it'll be nice to see you again!'; another was so excited on a note I had sent her that I almost thought she had to have confused me for someone else. I have two events on the schedule that I was actively invited to, and some nice replies of enthusiasm for something I'm planning to do. My brain is not accepting any of this as proof but it is definitely proof brain! You can leave your fears here while I move on with my life!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: canuck_24 on August 19, 2016, 02:08:35 PM
This thread is helping me see how many phobias I've overcome (balloons, spiders, etc)! Maybe I can totally take on the bear and cougar one! But not heights and bungee jumping. Just no.
This thread is giving me new phobias I never thought of before. I think I'm doing it wrong!

I think this is one of my most favourite threads found on the MMM forum yet!  I'm laughing along with you all as there are so many of these that I'm thinking oh my gosh, that's terrifying, I hadn't thought of that or similar sentiments.

Some of my personal fears in varying levels of rationality include:
On the more serious side:
- We travel quite a lot, and I can send myself into a tailspin convincing myself we are being kidnapped in certain situations. (eg. Last week we were on a dive boat in Panama, and I managed to convince myself that the dive shop was a cover story for a human trafficking or ransom type scenario.  It wasn't.  We had two good dives and saw tons of sharks!)  Thankfully this particular fear doesn't prevent me from traveling, but it does make me more cautious.
- Bearing an unhealthy child and not being able to mentally cope with the challenges that would pose is one of my biggest fears.

On the lighter side:
- Losing teeth, or my husband losing teeth.  The reality that one of us may lose a tooth (through contact sports, or with age, or whatever) is reasonable, but the level at which that bothers me is completely unreasonable.
- Still afraid of the dark (mostly what intruders may be lurking in the dark, especially if I am home alone)... this one is completely irrational and makes me laugh most of the time - which it obviously comes out as a squeaky, scared laugh generally, which only makes me laugh more, though does nothing to dispel my fear in the moment.  It can be quite comical.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: cavewoman on August 19, 2016, 02:12:43 PM
*Snip*

Fear: Being trapped in a small enclosed space with other people.

Reality: Last year, I was going through a haunted house in St Louis and there was this pitch black fabric tube that you had to walk through. People were crowded in front of me and behind me. Everything was fine until the people in front stopped moving and the people behind kept pushing forward. I had a full-on panic attack. The first I've ever had. Right in the middle of what I refer to as the Womb Tube. Thankfully, the chances of me encountering a Womb Tube in my every day life are limited.

But it does make me nervous about the possibility of being stuck in an evacuation scenario with people refusing to move. I could easily have hurt someone in order to escape the Womb Tube. The only thing that prevented me from doing so was that the person directly in front of me was my husband, and I didn't want to hurt him. If he'd been a faceless stranger? I totally would have punched him in the head to get him moving.
*snip*

Same here.  Small spaces, I'm okay with... (I mean I actually am a caving woman, not an anti-feminist...) but put a crowd in it?  I guess even a large space with a crowd is kind of creepy to me, so maybe it's more crowds than the size of the space.  But what made me quote you, specifically, is because of St. Louis.  The first (and only) time I went up in the St. Louis Arch was on a holiday weekend... I got to the top and it was so crowded you could hardly move... and there was a LINE TO GET DOWN!  Betcher ass I panic-attacked my way to the front, cut in line (sorry sorry, gotta get down!) and got in the little "nanu-nanu" pod to get down asap.

But my real irrational fear: Bridges. Big ones, little ones, going over, going under, driving, walking, doesn't matter.  When the Minnesota Bridge collapsed in 2007 (oh shoot why did I look it up to clarify the year??) my boyfriend at the time sat me down and said "there's something that happened that I need to tell you" and when he said a major interstate bridge collapsed I was hysterical.. But also thinking "see???  I've been right to be terrified this whole time!!!!"
I'm much better now, I used to pass out as a passenger on the highway going into St. Louis, especially if there was traffic and we had to stop.  Now I'm okay if I can drive.  I took my Mom across the Golden Gate recently (win!) and then we went to the Point Bonita Lighthouse, where you have to walk across a 30-40 footbridge.  I tried to be brave but I did end up running/freaking out when I felt it shake.  Then I'm stranded on an island and HAVE to go back across.  We waited until the bridge was clear so I could run with my eyes closed and my hand on the railing.  It was worth it though, so I have motivation to continue to push myself.


Fear/Obessiveness I also do the worst case scenario thing:  If someone is calling me (especially a once-in-a-blue-moon caller, like my mom or aunt) then Definitely someone died.  In the span of a year I lost my cousin, fiance, and brother to tragedy, so it comes from that.  I got two of the calls while I was at work so I'm doubly-tripley afraid if a family member calls the work line.
And then I have these Day-mares where something terrible happens and I just play out the rest.  EX:  last weekend, I went camping with my husband.  On the drive there, I imagined that he got mauled by a bear and I had to walk up to the bear and shoot it in the head.  Then I'm going through the aftermath... would i take him east, deeper in the park to the closer ranger station or west?  how would I slow the bleeding?  How would I even manage to lift him into the CAR??  Ahhhhhh goodness, getting myself worked up again. I remember being like this even in elementary school.  I would imagine that the bus crashed and then go through the whole aftermath. 

I'm learning some new fears, but also feeling a little less crazy.  My husband definitely is not like me with the catastrophe thinking - but he does have a fear of swimming in deep water and is very understanding about my bridge-craziness.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: infogoon on August 19, 2016, 02:17:20 PM
When I was a kid, some well-meaning relative gave me a set of National Geographic postcards with different desert animals on them. I immediately developed a paralyzing fear of scorpions -- like, I wouldn't lay down and take a nap without shaking out all of the sheets.

I grew up in Rochester, New York. Any scorpion that managed to find its way that far into upstate New York would have said "to hell with this" and turned right around on the first day.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Spork on August 19, 2016, 03:18:01 PM
I know this has been said already... but spiders.

Little tiny ones, giant hairy ones, medium brown ones, poisonous, non-poisonous, doesn't matter.  All have me running out of the room and other people wondering where I went in such a hurry.  Living by myself is interesting.

I heard that tidbit about people eating spiders in their sleep the day before an egg sac in my bedroom let out about a hundred tiny little spiders right before I went to bed.  I think I was 8 or 9.  It was over.

Oddly I'm not scared of daddy long legs?

Fear: spiders
Reality: they're everywhere

Fun fact: Daddy long legs are not spiders.  They are harvestmen.  They're both arachnids, but not exactly the same thing.

Oddly: I really like spiders.  I don't want them as pets, but they're awesome creatures that eat insects that I really don't like.  If I find one indoors, I carefully will scoop it up and take it outside.  About once a year we get a garden spider by the back door.  We toss it crickets and grasshoppers.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: CheapskateWife on August 19, 2016, 03:35:38 PM
Another irrational fear...that we will FIRE in two years, and then DH will decide he doesn't want to be married to me any more.  A divorce would force me back into the work force against my will, as the bulk of our monthly FIRE income is his pension and disability compensation. 

Maybe this one isn't so irrational. 
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Astatine on August 19, 2016, 04:59:32 PM
This week I've been having one too: that my friends don't actually like me that much (have been struggling to get the participation I want in invites and had a bad experience last month with one specific person, which is coloring things).


Oh yes, this. If I'm feeling anxious about anything, this is my default fear. It's horrible!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: renaite on August 20, 2016, 08:17:17 AM

Fear/Obessiveness I also do the worst case scenario thing:  If someone is calling me (especially a once-in-a-blue-moon caller, like my mom or aunt) then Definitely someone died.  In the span of a year I lost my cousin, fiance, and brother to tragedy, so it comes from that.  I got two of the calls while I was at work so I'm doubly-tripley afraid if a family member calls the work line.
And then I have these Day-mares where something terrible happens and I just play out the rest.  EX:  last weekend, I went camping with my husband.  On the drive there, I imagined that he got mauled by a bear and I had to walk up to the bear and shoot it in the head.  Then I'm going through the aftermath... would i take him east, deeper in the park to the closer ranger station or west?  how would I slow the bleeding?  How would I even manage to lift him into the CAR??  Ahhhhhh goodness, getting myself worked up again. I remember being like this even in elementary school.  I would imagine that the bus crashed and then go through the whole aftermath. 

I also do this, and remember doing it as a kid. Often if I'm driving in the rain I imagine hydroplaning off a bridge or into a lake or something. I will plot out how I would escape or deal with complications. (It seems to pass once I've played the scenario out.) I have actually tried googling in the past to see if it's normal to think this way, but "is it normal to catastrophize" has never gotten me anywhere. We mustachians may not be all that normal in general, but I am a little relieved to learn others do this.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: freezerburn on August 20, 2016, 11:56:57 AM
Every plane flight I've been on for the past five years, I've been convinced we were about to crash at least once during the flight. As the engine noise goes away during preparation for landing, I have to say to myself "Gotta slow down to get down. Gotta slow down to get down."

I have exactly the same fear, and I mean, word-for-word what you said. Every time I'm on a plane I'm thinking 'this is the one that will crash', after people have told me the statistics on how rare plane crashes are. Every time the plane starts to change in sound/feel because the pilot is preparing for landing, I'm sitting there thinking 'we have to slow down before we can land... this is normal... it's not about to crash'.

It's awful.

I spoke to a pilot once about this and I could tell by his face that he felt kind of sorry for me, because he could see how utterly, utterly irrational my fear was. Like if someone told me they were too scared to ever get into a car (even though cars are SO MUCH MORE DANGEROUS than planes) I'd be thinking 'wow it must suck having your life controlled by such an irrational fear'.


I binge-watched all of the series of Aircrash Investigations a while ago (skipping the episodes about terrorism). Everyone I've told has said, so does that mean you're now nervous to fly? Nope. Not at all, as long as it's a plane that seats >20 people and the airline company is a large and well-known one. However, I'm not sure I will ever be able to bring myself to get on a small plane in remote areas run by small, run on the smell of an oily rag company. That seems to be where the risks are.

After flying pretty often during my childhood without anxiety, I developed a fear of flying as an adult and blamed it on living under a flight path and hearing planes pass overhead every 90 seconds or so. Not that close, but still audible. It was a sort of fear of anything going wrong, and I had to wear earplugs or headphones so I didn't focus on tracking every single noise the plane made (still do).

BUT--then I watched all the Air Crash Investigations, and my general blanket fear of flying was largely replaced with the very specific fear that the plane will have a sudden and catastrophic loss of hydraulics, or some other equally awful unpredictable incident, that causes the plane to get trapped in a phugoid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phugoid).

Irrational fear:
When in stressful social situations where I have to speak to a large group of people, I'll have a vision that I suddenly start flailing around the room and wrecking everything. I know this is a symptom of my generally anxious brain, but it's a weird one.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: scrubbyfish on August 20, 2016, 12:27:15 PM
As I said to norabird elsewhere, I have developed a mini-crush on every single one of you. I just love, love, love people with such sweet and delicious quirks! I would be very kind to each of you when these pop up :)
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: SCUBAstache on August 20, 2016, 02:10:31 PM
I also have the phone call from relatives = something terrible happened fear. And generally worrying my boyfriend has been in an accident if I haven't heard from him recently.

A possibly not completely irrational fear is that antibiotic resistence will become worse and more widespread. As a frequent UTI sufferer, I'd be dead.

And I'm afraid my teeth will fall out and have frequent anxiety dreams about it!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: BlueHouse on August 20, 2016, 09:09:35 PM
I'm not sure this counts, but when I do have silly fears that something bad might happen I think about things that really shouldn't matter. 

A few weeks ago, we had a very bad storm that I thought could result in a collapsed house or some other scenario where I would need to be rescued.  Before going to a safer area in the home (interior room with no windows), I rushed to change into an outfit that I would rather be found in if I were dead. 

I almost let my house burn down once because I hadn't cleaned up the takeout food from the previous night and a small fire broke out in my laundry room.  Now whenever I go to bed, the last thing I think about is what the house would look like if I died during the night.  So I almost always clean the kitchen before I sleep. 

I am very worried about what I'll be wearing if there is a fire and I have to jump out a window. I don't want to be the person whose nightgown rides up and whose butt is exposed on the news.  I ALWAYS leave a robe on my bed that I can grab in case of an emergency on the way out the door.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: VladTheImpaler on August 20, 2016, 11:16:08 PM
Other people.

People are nuts.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Making Cookies on August 22, 2016, 08:10:50 AM
So how have you dealt with these anxieties to prevent you from letting the worries take over your days?

Our younger child is wired more this way. Is getting over it I think but we could not utilize summer day camps for several years b/c he thought we might forget to come get him. I missed some work days over this. Now our two stay home b/c the older one is driving age and able to look after the house and sibling.

For me I relied on reason when I was younger. That shadow over there in the corner of my bedroom can't be a bear b/c I'd be able to hear him breathing or moving around. He can't hold his breath forever... I might still be scared but not a wreck. It might be enough to come out from under the covers and switch on a lamp to double check my theory.

Our younger child doesn't seem to be able to overcome the emotion with reason once he gets worked up. I figure age will help of course.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: scrubbyfish on August 22, 2016, 08:34:12 AM
Joe Lucky, I've healed a whole bunch of these in me. I relied on homemade exposure therapy and CBT. My level of distress to these daily things (spiders, balloons, etc) was really interfering with my adult life.

I started with spiders, because my extreme phobia and response to my phobia was going to end a beloved job if I didn't. In that case, my homemade exposure therapy was like this (in a process taking weeks, not minutes):

1. With a teeny, tiny unmoving spider, don't run screaming. (I was still allowed to run/freeze, etc, near large or moving ones.)
2. With same, stay in the same room as it for some seconds.
3. With same, take one step toward it.
4. With same, get closer and closer to it.
5. With same, stand peacefully near.
6. With same, touch one almost imperceptibly. Now that size was complete.
7. Work my way up to bigger and bigger ones.

Yesterday, I found a big one, scooped him up in a cup, enjoyed looking at him for some minutes, then set him free outside. Last year, I had a "pet" spider, keeping me company during a month of bed rest in the corner nearest my feet.

I wouldn't impose exposure therapy on another person, including on my own kid. It's different when we choose it for ourselves. But there are many excellent, gentle resources out there. As we see in this thread, people don't always age out of this stuff. It's often worth healing in childhood (easier, plus child doesn't suffer for years in the meantime, plus difficult neural traits aren't cemented).

My kid is fine with spiders and balloons, but newly has some light OCD things. He (11) has been teaching himself CBT techniques via some phenomenal books on kid-OCD and kid-persistent worry. I ordered into our library all the kid books on this page: http://www.parentbooks.ca/Obsessive-Compulsive_Disorder.html  He loves them and has been having solid success. A lot of these books are for kids much younger than him, and are intended for the parent and child to use together. The material in some is so intelligent and helpful, I would recommend them for adults too!

Besides these approaches, one session of EMDR resolved a huge fear my kid had when he was younger (we've been unable to find an EMDR practitioner here who will work with kids, so not an option currently), and intensive nutritional approaches resolved some weird OCDs in me.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: onehair on August 22, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
I can deal with balloons if they're tied up and stationary but brought close to me I tend to refuse them or get away from them.  Fireworks from a distance or on TV but not close to me.  It didn't help when I was younger some kids learned of my phobia and contented themselves popping them in my presence just to see me freak out....
I also don't like insects crawling on me or rodents that much but those are easily dealt with.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Tamster on August 22, 2016, 11:33:15 AM
One of my irrational fears just happened while I was surfing around on here - spider just crawled onto my lap (from who knows where, ew, not gonna think about a large gang of them hiding under my chair.... Oh God, or in my chair. I need to vacuum the chairs again) and I about jumped a mile, then killed it once it landed on the floor. I am justified in my fear of bugs landing on me.

Ever since I was a kid, I remember doing the ceiling bug check before lights out, scanning the room to make sure nothing would pounce on me in my sleep. I would turn the light off, wait a half a minute, then turn it back on (in case any bugs had decided to converge on me). I still do this. Of course, now that I've seen videos of large spiders, I worry about those, and wonder what I would use to kill one. Surely a slipper isn't strong enough to subdue one of those monsters.

Another fear I have is not as rational, a huge fear of bears. I think Scrubbyfish has this fear too? I don't know that it is completely irrational; after all, bears can hurt people. However, in my travels and hiking (minimal) experience, I've not ever seen a bear. I do have a thing of pepper spray (thanks Mom), but with my luck I'd spray myself rather than the bear.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: scrubbyfish on August 22, 2016, 11:41:50 AM
Another fear I have is not as rational, a huge fear of bears. I think Scrubbyfish has this fear too?

Yep! I've been near dozens and dozens (residentially, camping, hiking), and I'll still go out if with at least one other person (for help making noise, getting first aid if needed), but it's real and, based on our region's news the last month, rational. I'm very happy to see one hanging out in a tree next to me; my fear is specific to surprising a mother with cubs.

I have spray and took a session in it's best use, but I'm pretty sure I would just do everything wrong (again) if I came upon one while I were solo.

And, with all my spider progress, I still would hate for one to jump on me! I don't like being near the jumping spider, because although tiny and peaceful, I swear they recognize human faces and aim.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Tamster on August 22, 2016, 11:50:23 AM
For that reason, yeah, I would likely not hike solo. But hiking with the kids, that's a new set of worries --- and one I seem to play out in my head regularly. We would only encounter black bear if any (hiking in NH), and they are not as aggressive as grizzlies, from what I understand. But, as you mentioned, a mama bear and her cubs is the worst thing to encounter.

I hear you on the jumping spiders --- this one seemed huge (size of a dime, so logically not that big) and seemed to slither and jump. I think he laughed at me too.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Making Cookies on August 22, 2016, 03:39:24 PM
Joe Lucky, I've healed a whole bunch of these in me. I relied on homemade exposure therapy and CBT. My level of distress to these daily things (spiders, balloons, etc) was really interfering with my adult life.

Thank you!

Yep, I get the bedtime bugs. I had one run across my face in the night once years ago. In one twitch I was on my feet taking the room apart. Never found him.

Hotels: I am very picky about where I rent a room. Have stayed in a few places that my employer chose for me that I would not choose for myself. Never, ever look up customer reviews of a hotel you already stayed in and won't likely stay in again. The ick factor was HUGE (YUGE!) on the one that I looked up. People posting pictures of their rooms and so forth. Apparently I had one of the good ones. The place was run on a shoe string.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Tamster on August 22, 2016, 03:54:55 PM
There may be a valid reason for my mom annihilating hotel rooms with her can of Lysol. Also, for her insisting on us wearing flip flops even in the shower.....hmmm.... She may have been onto something.

That said, in my wild and crazy days (i.e., even now), I do not spray Lysol or even wear flip flops in the shower. This, admittedly, could be my downfall. Ymmv
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: patchyfacialhair on August 22, 2016, 10:40:59 PM
I have a rational fear of bedbugs and general motel skankiness. UGH just the thought that the sheets aren't properly washed or I'm lying in or touching the various bodily fluids left by other people (and their equally skanky, sweaty, dirty, shedding and oriface-oozing dogs) freaks me out! Throw in bedbugs and I've pretty much developed a full blown phobia about motels.  More reason to love camping in my own tent where the only disgusting things there come from me!

We pretty much rip apart every hotel room we stay in. It's not worth bringing bedbugs back home. Not to mention the actual "getting bit" part.

I'm required to do extensive research to see if a potential hotel has any mention of bedbugs. One mention means an instant veto from the wife.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: Kalergie on August 23, 2016, 09:05:18 AM
My wife is afraid of doing the laundry on a Sunday. When she was a little girl her crazy grandma told her if you wash laundry on a Sunday a big snake will come and eat you.
God damn crazy stuff I've married into...:)
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: meghan88 on August 23, 2016, 01:41:07 PM
Getting old plus any of the following:

- losing my sig-O
- losing my health gradually and rotting away in a hospice bed for years
- going blind
- eating catfood because of financial misfortune

All that pretty much scares the poop out of me and I think about it all too often.
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: shotgunwilly on August 23, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
Fear: Everything in the road is nails. Bag? Bag of nails. Box? Box of nails. Roadkill? Died eating a box of nails, now contains nails.

Reality: Only 1/3 of the objects I pull out of my tire are nails.

This made me bust out laughing in my office!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: IndyPendent on August 29, 2016, 06:55:03 PM
I am very worried about what I'll be wearing if there is a fire and I have to jump out a window. I don't want to be the person whose nightgown rides up and whose butt is exposed on the news.  I ALWAYS leave a robe on my bed that I can grab in case of an emergency on the way out the door.

Ha!
Title: Re: Confess your irrational (or rational) fears
Post by: scrubbyfish on August 30, 2016, 12:26:34 AM
Last night a big ol' bear was at our house. Today, a neighbour stumbled upon four at different spots in one hike. I felt all righteous and smug with my awesome fear.

I was still willing to bring my groceries in from the car in the pitch black, though. No bear comes between me and my rotisserie chicken, try as they might!