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Title: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: StockBeard on March 06, 2015, 10:40:49 AM
Every time I go to work, I see a bunch of colleagues carrying an expensive coffee cup, their "morning latte" with them. That thing costs them $3.5 plus taxes.
That's close to a thousand dollars a year. It puts a huge smile on my face every time I see someone with a Starbucks coffee in their hand, thinking "ha, I just saved myself $1000 by looking at you". No empathy for them. at. all. (am I a bad person?)

What non-mustachian behavior from your peers puts a smile on your face?
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: cashstasherat23 on March 06, 2015, 12:08:43 PM
The daily exodus from the office to various low quality lunch places around here. Almost everyone in the office happily streaming out to spend $10+ on a crappy salad that they could make at home for better. Always makes me cringe
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: johnny847 on March 06, 2015, 01:19:31 PM
The daily exodus from the office to various low quality lunch places around here. Almost everyone in the office happily streaming out to spend $10+ on a crappy salad that they could make at home for better. Always makes me cringe
This.

Also, seeing fellow students buy a parking pass and drive to class when they are in biking distance and in reasonable shape
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: MandalayVA on March 06, 2015, 02:13:36 PM
On a typical day I hear this:

"I have so many bills this month ... hey, where are we going for lunch today?"

I smile to think of them seething with jealousy at my retirement party ...
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: socaso on March 06, 2015, 04:21:59 PM
The daily exodus from the office to various low quality lunch places around here. Almost everyone in the office happily streaming out to spend $10+ on a crappy salad that they could make at home for better. Always makes me cringe
+1 and in my workplace there's also a daily debate as to what delivery place they are going to order from. It must take 30 min to get the whole thing organized, they all seem to spend more than they do when they walk out to buy lunch, and they never finish their food.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: celticmyst08 on March 06, 2015, 04:25:38 PM
Hearing my coworkers sigh about how they won't be able to retire at "the normal age" anymore and things just aren't the way they used to be, blah blah, while driving their shiny leased cars and buying ridiculous houses and sending their kids to overpriced private schools and getting Starbucks 2x/day. /smallestviolin

Obviously it doesn't make me happy that they're in bad shape, but it does make me happy to realize that my DH and I have a wonderfully fulfilling life right now without spending $$$$$$$ and will be retired well before 60 (hopefully in our 40s). :)
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Luckyvik on March 07, 2015, 06:08:45 PM
Not so much makes my day but more makes me cringe, hearing co-workers talk about what private school they're sending their kids to, their construction loan to add a pool to the house 'cause the kids need it', the getting an interest free loan to fill the new house with new furniture, the $5000 wedding dress'. Then they ask me why my husband and I live in a 1 bedroom apartment, why don't we buy a house?


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Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: ender on March 07, 2015, 07:25:13 PM
I rather enjoy my coworkers talking about expensive hobbies and such.

I don't tell them my hobby is considerably more expensive at this point in my life ;)
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: MrsCoolCat on March 07, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
Obviously it doesn't make me happy that they're in bad shape, but it does make me happy to realize that my DH and I have a wonderfully fulfilling life right now without spending $$$$$$$ and will be retired well before 60 (hopefully in our 40s). :)

+1. My Mr. OneCoolCat husband thought my cynical self would enjoy this thread. Well, the only things that really bother me are when food stamp nation tries to pay for Valentine's gifts and their nails (TRUE STORY) from my tax dollars, and the like. Otherwise, their life they can do whatever they want.

I used to work in a Chinese takeout (yes, how stereotypical) and the women next door, after doing their hair, would try to charge the last $6 on their declined credit card, sometimes on multiple cards, too. It's like please friggin return your hair and make yourself a sandwich at home. GTFO!

There was however, one conniving coworker that I highly do not like and I would somewhat be amused that she had a tendency to brag about leasing Mercedes and Lexuses and paying $200 for a bathing suit, yet biotched about the $400 it costs to replace her tire... yeah, it's called don't brag when you clearly can't afford it. It also pleases me to learn that in 2012 she wanted a house but didn't have the $10k down (some special loan for first time homebuyers) to afford it... she eventually bought a house in 2014 which has since went up in value by a mere $15k compared to what I know she could have got it for in 2012. SUCKA! LOL, I guess I am enjoying this. :-)
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: bzzzt on March 07, 2015, 09:49:26 PM
I call it the stupid tax. I get stories from some LEO friends that make me cringe, but still laugh.

I'd say the most reoccurring one is: Buy fairly new, used luxury car but live in the hood. Crash said car on highway. Complain about how road should be plowed better. LEO checks car and tires are bald. Idiot gets tickets for unsafe equipment, failure to avoid an accident, etc. Idiot complains about how they shouldn't get tickets because it's not their fault, they can't afford new tires...

Another personal fav is people who have warrants, but drive like idiots. One of the most recent was a guy with 2 warrants, who speeds past LEO doing 20+ MPH over speed limit. Yep, you're dumb AND you're going to jail for a while. Oh, those warrants? Bench warrants for failure to appear for speeding tickets...
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: clarkfan1979 on March 08, 2015, 01:21:23 PM
I teach a college class for 2 hours and 45 minutes with one 15 minute break. During break most of my college students buy stuff out of the vending machine. A very popular item is a water bottle that costs $1.50. I fill up my water bottle for free at the fountain. The school actually installed fancy dispensers so it's easy to fill up a water bottle. It was a very weird experience and caught my attention.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: xenon5 on March 08, 2015, 10:20:17 PM
I teach a college class for 2 hours and 45 minutes with one 15 minute break. During break most of my college students buy stuff out of the vending machine. A very popular item is a water bottle that costs $1.50. I fill up my water bottle for free at the fountain. The school actually installed fancy dispensers so it's easy to fill up a water bottle. It was a very weird experience and caught my attention.

I've come to learn that many people in the US are very suspicious of tap water, even though the vast majority of tap water here is safe and many water bottlers are bottling the same water.  I travel for work and my coworkers are always jumping through hoops to buy cartons of water bottles to use for 3 or 4 days.  When I say I just drink it from the tap and bring my own bottle, they try to convince me it's not safe!
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: willow on March 09, 2015, 07:01:13 PM
I do enjoy laughing at a good weakness. I just remind myself that I have my own weaknesses.

I happen to buy expensive lattes. Not every day, but probably more than I should. I still manage to save over half of my income though, so I figured, I'm willing to let this one go.(Also I have family members that work for said expensive latte company, so maybe it's a conflict of interest).
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: One Noisy Cat on March 09, 2015, 07:16:24 PM
   One thing I used to wonder about when I was a working stiff was the number of co workers who had swimming pools.  I live in an apartment so we have an outdoor pool in summer but I have no idea how much that costs. Growing up, I only knew only one kid whose family had a pool so I think of them as being for rich people only (Dad never learned to swim, Mom loved it so she was in YWCA to use their pool).
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: PEIslander on March 10, 2015, 03:32:28 AM
I used to work in Halifax, Nova Scotia, while living across the harbour in Dartmouth. To get to work I'd take the 7-minute passenger ferry ride across the harbour. I was always amused by the number of other ferry riders who would bring a fancy coffee, an Egg-McMuffin (or two), and a newspaper. Because the ride was so short they'd ditch half the coffee in the trash upon arriving at the terminal. Most would leave the newspaper on their ferry seat. Each day they were spending at least several dollars before even getting to work (or $1500+ per year).

The newspapers really got me. The same people used the ferry every workday. Surely they noticed that every fifth or sixth seat on the ferry had a discarded newspaper already sitting on it. I rarely ever got on and couldn't sit down next to a free-to-me newspaper to read - so why were they in the habit of buying one every day? The only things I can think of is they didn't want to "look cheap" or they think of "small" purchases like coffees & newspapers as insignificant. Of course insignificant purchases x hundreds of times become really significant. We here in MMM-land know that but it still boggles my mind that so many can't grasp the idea.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: aussiesaver on March 10, 2015, 06:46:56 AM
My husband used to bring me home lots of expensive magazines when he would catch the train to work. People would leave them behind after paying a lot of money for them only an hour or so earlier. 
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: ash7962 on March 10, 2015, 10:14:35 AM
I teach a college class for 2 hours and 45 minutes with one 15 minute break. During break most of my college students buy stuff out of the vending machine. A very popular item is a water bottle that costs $1.50. I fill up my water bottle for free at the fountain. The school actually installed fancy dispensers so it's easy to fill up a water bottle. It was a very weird experience and caught my attention.

I've come to learn that many people in the US are very suspicious of tap water, even though the vast majority of tap water here is safe and many water bottlers are bottling the same water.  I travel for work and my coworkers are always jumping through hoops to buy cartons of water bottles to use for 3 or 4 days.  When I say I just drink it from the tap and bring my own bottle, they try to convince me it's not safe!

I've noticed this one too!  I recently went on a weekend vacation and we were 8 in total.  I was the only one who brought a reusable water bottle and just filled it from the tap.  One of the couples that came with even sent out an e-mail beforehand informing us that they would be stocking up on bottled water for the trip so that no one else would have to.  When I still used tap water someone asked "are you sure its safe?".  I just said something like "I'm sure its fine."  I think there's no way that you'd stay at a reputable hotel and they would not tell you if their tap water was not safe to drink.  I have no idea why people have become so afraid of regular tap water.

Second story, when I was a freshman in college I was auto placed to room with another girl in my dorm.  About a month in she asks me if I was using the tap water to drink and brush my teeth.  I was shocked that she asked me that and just responded with "of course".  Apparently she had been using bottled water to brush her teeth for the first month.  She was the bratty child of an obviously "well off" family and was totally spoiled, so apparently the college town of Urbana-Champaign was so backwoods that they might not have drinkable tap water.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Kris on March 10, 2015, 11:36:53 AM
I teach a college class for 2 hours and 45 minutes with one 15 minute break. During break most of my college students buy stuff out of the vending machine. A very popular item is a water bottle that costs $1.50. I fill up my water bottle for free at the fountain. The school actually installed fancy dispensers so it's easy to fill up a water bottle. It was a very weird experience and caught my attention.

I've come to learn that many people in the US are very suspicious of tap water, even though the vast majority of tap water here is safe and many water bottlers are bottling the same water.  I travel for work and my coworkers are always jumping through hoops to buy cartons of water bottles to use for 3 or 4 days.  When I say I just drink it from the tap and bring my own bottle, they try to convince me it's not safe!

I've noticed this one too!  I recently went on a weekend vacation and we were 8 in total.  I was the only one who brought a reusable water bottle and just filled it from the tap.  One of the couples that came with even sent out an e-mail beforehand informing us that they would be stocking up on bottled water for the trip so that no one else would have to.  When I still used tap water someone asked "are you sure its safe?".  I just said something like "I'm sure its fine."  I think there's no way that you'd stay at a reputable hotel and they would not tell you if their tap water was not safe to drink.  I have no idea why people have become so afraid of regular tap water.

Second story, when I was a freshman in college I was auto placed to room with another girl in my dorm.  About a month in she asks me if I was using the tap water to drink and brush my teeth.  I was shocked that she asked me that and just responded with "of course".  Apparently she had been using bottled water to brush her teeth for the first month.  She was the bratty child of an obviously "well off" family and was totally spoiled, so apparently the college town of Urbana-Champaign was so backwoods that they might not have drinkable tap water.

:O

I had no idea.  WTF?!
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on March 10, 2015, 11:54:32 AM
I teach a college class for 2 hours and 45 minutes with one 15 minute break. During break most of my college students buy stuff out of the vending machine. A very popular item is a water bottle that costs $1.50. I fill up my water bottle for free at the fountain. The school actually installed fancy dispensers so it's easy to fill up a water bottle. It was a very weird experience and caught my attention.

I've come to learn that many people in the US are very suspicious of tap water, even though the vast majority of tap water here is safe and many water bottlers are bottling the same water.  I travel for work and my coworkers are always jumping through hoops to buy cartons of water bottles to use for 3 or 4 days.  When I say I just drink it from the tap and bring my own bottle, they try to convince me it's not safe!

I've noticed this one too!  I recently went on a weekend vacation and we were 8 in total.  I was the only one who brought a reusable water bottle and just filled it from the tap.  One of the couples that came with even sent out an e-mail beforehand informing us that they would be stocking up on bottled water for the trip so that no one else would have to.  When I still used tap water someone asked "are you sure its safe?".  I just said something like "I'm sure its fine."  I think there's no way that you'd stay at a reputable hotel and they would not tell you if their tap water was not safe to drink.  I have no idea why people have become so afraid of regular tap water.

Second story, when I was a freshman in college I was auto placed to room with another girl in my dorm.  About a month in she asks me if I was using the tap water to drink and brush my teeth.  I was shocked that she asked me that and just responded with "of course".  Apparently she had been using bottled water to brush her teeth for the first month.  She was the bratty child of an obviously "well off" family and was totally spoiled, so apparently the college town of Urbana-Champaign was so backwoods that they might not have drinkable tap water.

Is this in the wrong thread? This shit doesn't "make my day", it depresses me.

How about something from the flip side? I have a friend who is so Mustachian, she brings her own water bottle everywhere. She won't even use a glass at our home, because she doesn't want us to have to wash it (she does use our tap water, though). Of course, in and of itself, that's not terribly uncommon. The awesomely Mustachian part is that her "water bottle" is actually an old glass apple juice bottle that she has been carrying around for years.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: mm1970 on March 10, 2015, 12:11:44 PM
I teach a college class for 2 hours and 45 minutes with one 15 minute break. During break most of my college students buy stuff out of the vending machine. A very popular item is a water bottle that costs $1.50. I fill up my water bottle for free at the fountain. The school actually installed fancy dispensers so it's easy to fill up a water bottle. It was a very weird experience and caught my attention.

I've come to learn that many people in the US are very suspicious of tap water, even though the vast majority of tap water here is safe and many water bottlers are bottling the same water.  I travel for work and my coworkers are always jumping through hoops to buy cartons of water bottles to use for 3 or 4 days.  When I say I just drink it from the tap and bring my own bottle, they try to convince me it's not safe!

I've noticed this one too!  I recently went on a weekend vacation and we were 8 in total.  I was the only one who brought a reusable water bottle and just filled it from the tap.  One of the couples that came with even sent out an e-mail beforehand informing us that they would be stocking up on bottled water for the trip so that no one else would have to.  When I still used tap water someone asked "are you sure its safe?".  I just said something like "I'm sure its fine."  I think there's no way that you'd stay at a reputable hotel and they would not tell you if their tap water was not safe to drink.  I have no idea why people have become so afraid of regular tap water.

Second story, when I was a freshman in college I was auto placed to room with another girl in my dorm.  About a month in she asks me if I was using the tap water to drink and brush my teeth.  I was shocked that she asked me that and just responded with "of course".  Apparently she had been using bottled water to brush her teeth for the first month.  She was the bratty child of an obviously "well off" family and was totally spoiled, so apparently the college town of Urbana-Champaign was so backwoods that they might not have drinkable tap water.

Is this in the wrong thread? This shit doesn't "make my day", it depresses me.

How about something from the flip side? I have a friend who is so Mustachian, she brings her own water bottle everywhere. She won't even use a glass at our home, because she doesn't want us to have to wash it (she does use our tap water, though). Of course, in and of itself, that's not terribly uncommon. The awesomely Mustachian part is that her "water bottle" is actually an old glass apple juice bottle that she has been carrying around for years.
One of my fellow PTA members forgot her "water bottle" at the meeting last night.

It's an old mayo jar.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: rencelas on March 10, 2015, 08:06:23 PM
Second story, when I was a freshman in college I was auto placed to room with another girl in my dorm.  About a month in she asks me if I was using the tap water to drink and brush my teeth.  I was shocked that she asked me that and just responded with "of course".  Apparently she had been using bottled water to brush her teeth for the first month.  She was the bratty child of an obviously "well off" family and was totally spoiled, so apparently the college town of Urbana-Champaign was so backwoods that they might not have drinkable tap water.

Whatever it is, I'm pretty damn convinced something in the water makes football teams suck, so maybe she could let the people at Memorial Stadium know bottled water is the key?

Someday in my life we'll have a winning season.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: TheGrimSqueaker on March 18, 2015, 03:53:15 PM
Second story, when I was a freshman in college I was auto placed to room with another girl in my dorm.  About a month in she asks me if I was using the tap water to drink and brush my teeth.  I was shocked that she asked me that and just responded with "of course".  Apparently she had been using bottled water to brush her teeth for the first month.  She was the bratty child of an obviously "well off" family and was totally spoiled, so apparently the college town of Urbana-Champaign was so backwoods that they might not have drinkable tap water.

There are actually parts of the USA where a significant number of houses and apartments still have lead solder, fixtures, and pipe.  In New York City, for example, there were lead service lines being installed until 1961 and lead was allowed in soldering and fixtures (just not the pipe) until 1987.  A lot of the houses and apartment buildings in that area, especially upstate, are more than 55 years old.  They've often been very well maintained and have gone up in value since there's lots of demand for real estate in that part of the country.  But it's not unusual for families who live in these older homes or apartments to have water coolers.

The municipal water supply is fine, and the main lines to public buildings were upgraded years ago, but the water in individual houses or apartments tends to have elevated levels of lead due to the lead in the pipes.  A lot of those upstate places are also on wells and septic tanks as opposed to town or city water (it's astounding how few services are often available in such an "affluent" area, in a neighborhood with $2M and $3M homes you'd expect there to be sidewalks, trash collection, and water mains... but that's a separate rant).  Anyway, if the student in question was from an affluent family that lived in one of those older homes, lead pipes may have been a fact of life for her.

Lead poisoning is a cumulative effect, although people tend to be more likely to get sick from lead paint than from lead in the water.  So yeah, there's some lead hysteria.

It's probably a lot less expensive to use a Culligan type system than to build a new house or to pay for a plumbing upgrade in an existing older place if it happens to have lead pipes.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: LiveLean on March 18, 2015, 04:00:14 PM
At various points I've owned stock in McDonald's, Disney, and Starbucks, companies I deplore for their non-mustachian products that cater to overconsumption. It always put a smile on my face to see people flocking to those places -- and when I've sold the stock for a tidy profit.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Imustacheyouaquestion on March 19, 2015, 08:38:56 AM
My coworker is living at home with his parents for 6 months to save money so he can afford to move out of state. Walks down to Starbucks every day for chai tea lattes and goes out for lunch most days.

Meanwhile, he thinks it's weird when I make coffee at my desk, bring breakfast and lunch, and use my lunch break to go on half hour walks outside.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: zephyr911 on March 19, 2015, 08:57:19 AM

I've noticed this one too!  I recently went on a weekend vacation and we were 8 in total.  I was the only one who brought a reusable water bottle and just filled it from the tap.  One of the couples that came with even sent out an e-mail beforehand informing us that they would be stocking up on bottled water for the trip so that no one else would have to.  When I still used tap water someone asked "are you sure its safe?".  I just said something like "I'm sure its fine."  I think there's no way that you'd stay at a reputable hotel and they would not tell you if their tap water was not safe to drink.  I have no idea why people have become so afraid of regular tap water.

Second story, when I was a freshman in college I was auto placed to room with another girl in my dorm.  About a month in she asks me if I was using the tap water to drink and brush my teeth.  I was shocked that she asked me that and just responded with "of course".  Apparently she had been using bottled water to brush her teeth for the first month.  She was the bratty child of an obviously "well off" family and was totally spoiled, so apparently the college town of Urbana-Champaign was so backwoods that they might not have drinkable tap water.

:O

I had no idea.  WTF?!

I had no idea that happened stateside. When I was deployed they told us to use bottled for brushing teeth, because the running water for bathing, etc. was just minimally purified greywater.

I grew up drinking tap water and never stopped, and have always thought it tremendously snobby to drink bottled water. Even worse, many people do it despite having very little income and living paycheck-to-paycheck.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: CopperTex on March 19, 2015, 09:20:23 AM
What good does it do to laugh at other people and their "weakness"? Is this supposed to make you feel better about yourself? Maybe people who buy lattes do so because they like it and find it worth the 1k/year expense, or maybe they are just mindless? Who are we to judge? Who cares?
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: zephyr911 on March 19, 2015, 09:29:00 AM
What good does it do to laugh at other people and their "weakness"? Is this supposed to make you feel better about yourself? Maybe people who buy lattes do so because they like it and find it worth the 1k/year expense, or maybe they are just mindless? Who are we to judge? Who cares?
It amuses them to laugh. Me too. Not you?
But I do wonder, are we assuming these people get one every day, or do we actually observe enough data to establish patterns?
I buy one every now and then, although it's probably less than monthly for me, because I've accepted that I can make a better drink at home for less. The local heathens can neither spell "cappuccino" nor make one correctly - 9 times out of 10 I end up with a burned latte - whereas my $6 milk frother kicks out a rich, luxurious spume that stands up for hours unattended.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: mak1277 on March 19, 2015, 09:49:27 AM
It makes my day when SUVs drive through puddles and drench people biking on the road.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: zoltani on March 19, 2015, 09:58:19 AM
Is smugness a virtue nowadays?
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: zephyr911 on March 19, 2015, 10:10:23 AM
Is smugness a virtue nowadays?
Oh no, smug alert! Better smell my own farts!
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: zoltani on March 19, 2015, 10:18:29 AM
Is smugness a virtue nowadays?
Oh no, smug alert! Better smell my own farts!

Can you please describe the bouquet?
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: powersuitrecall on March 19, 2015, 11:10:53 AM
I get a certain satisfaction from passing cars on my bike when the traffic is bad.

It doesn't make happy that others are burning their time away sitting in cars, but I do enjoy the confirmation that biking is the right thing to do (for me).
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Kaspian on March 19, 2015, 11:28:19 AM
People are stunned when I take their "pure" bottled water and show them the print which will say something like, "MWS Detroit".  I ask if they know what "MWS" stands for.  When they say they don't, I take great (smugness) in telling, "Municipal Water Source.  ...It's Detroit tap water."
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Blonde Lawyer on March 19, 2015, 11:44:50 AM
The lead thing - I grew up in a state where many homes had unsafe tap water.  You had to drink from a brita type thing or bottled water.  Then I moved and I would still ask friends before pouring a glass of water "is your tap water safe?"  They looked at me like I had ten heads.  In my old state, everyone asked before using the tap.  I don't know if the issue was lead or another contaminate but it was very common. It was also apparently very expensive to fix, hence why most people just used bottled.  My house, luckily, had a well and an a-ok tap so I grew up on tap water but couldn't trust anyone elses.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: zoltani on March 19, 2015, 11:45:34 AM
Bottled water isn't even held to the same water quality standards as municipal water! There are no standards. Crazy huh?
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: eil on March 19, 2015, 11:56:31 AM
My understanding is that lead water pipes are only an issue when the water has been sitting stagnant in the pipes for a time. If you're actually using the water daily, it's not a problem.

And yes, most bottled water is actually of poorer quality than most tap water. There have been multiple research studies on this. The reason being that most water bottling plants are set up where the land (and the water supply) is cheapest.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: JoJo on March 19, 2015, 01:06:33 PM
I actually find my foreign born friends are more likely to require bottled water than tap.  Two people I know who never use tap water were born in China & India.  I always drink tap not only for the cost savings but the avoidance of plastic.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Sibley on March 19, 2015, 01:40:19 PM
People are stunned when I take their "pure" bottled water and show them the print which will say something like, "MWS Detroit".  I ask if they know what "MWS" stands for.  When they say they don't, I take great (smugness) in telling, "Municipal Water Source.  ...It's Detroit tap water."

That's actually really helpful for me. I grew up with Detroit tap water at home, so if I buy bottled water I try to get one that uses the same source. It tastes right to me.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: sheepstache on March 19, 2015, 01:55:25 PM
Because I am the sort of person who enjoys seeing a picture in a museum purely because I've seen it in a textbook, I'm delighted when I spot something y'all are talking about in real life. It's like anti-mustachian bingo. So far it's the same colleague, who 1. despite being an intelligent and analytic person believed Ramsey's debt snowball was mathematically the fastest way to pay off debts, and 2. bought Jamberry nails.


At various points I've owned stock in McDonald's, Disney, and Starbucks, companies I deplore for their non-mustachian products that cater to overconsumption. It always put a smile on my face to see people flocking to those places -- and when I've sold the stock for a tidy profit.

Sigh, yeah, my SO "had" to run out and buy a new thing of handsoap because we were out. Nevermind that I was going to the big box that weekend to buy a bulk refill and nevermind that we have dish soap and shower gel and multiple bars of soap that could have tided us over, he has to buy a new dispenser bottle from the pharmacy. I mean, it's not going to break the bank, it just struck me as weird. Anyway, I was gratified to see that the brand we use is made by Unilever, so at least in some miniscule way it adds to my dividends.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: clarkfan1979 on March 21, 2015, 10:04:37 AM
I don't relish in their misfortunate. I am just happy that I figured it out. I have students in my classes that complain that they have to work too much to pay the bills and their studies suffer. After class, I see many of them drive away in new cars. Students that have an old beater car tend to not complain about struggling to pay their bills.

My wife and I have become pretty good on frugal trips to Disney. Disney lets you bring in your own food and drink. We have a thermal backpack that we pack food. My favorite lunch to pack is a turkey, avocado, & bacon sandwich. Organic bread from Costco that is the best tasting bread I have ever had.

Instead of waiting 15-20 minutes in the hot sun for a $13 turkey leg or a $15 gross hamburger and fries, we get to eat a healthy and tasty meal right away.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Frugalite on March 24, 2015, 08:03:53 PM
I teach a college class for 2 hours and 45 minutes with one 15 minute break. During break most of my college students buy stuff out of the vending machine. A very popular item is a water bottle that costs $1.50. I fill up my water bottle for free at the fountain. The school actually installed fancy dispensers so it's easy to fill up a water bottle. It was a very weird experience and caught my attention.

I've come to learn that many people in the US are very suspicious of tap water, even though the vast majority of tap water here is safe and many water bottlers are bottling the same water.  I travel for work and my coworkers are always jumping through hoops to buy cartons of water bottles to use for 3 or 4 days.  When I say I just drink it from the tap and bring my own bottle, they try to convince me it's not safe!

I've noticed this one too!  I recently went on a weekend vacation and we were 8 in total.  I was the only one who brought a reusable water bottle and just filled it from the tap.  One of the couples that came with even sent out an e-mail beforehand informing us that they would be stocking up on bottled water for the trip so that no one else would have to.  When I still used tap water someone asked "are you sure its safe?".  I just said something like "I'm sure its fine."  I think there's no way that you'd stay at a reputable hotel and they would not tell you if their tap water was not safe to drink.  I have no idea why people have become so afraid of regular tap water.

Second story, when I was a freshman in college I was auto placed to room with another girl in my dorm.  About a month in she asks me if I was using the tap water to drink and brush my teeth.  I was shocked that she asked me that and just responded with "of course".  Apparently she had been using bottled water to brush her teeth for the first month.  She was the bratty child of an obviously "well off" family and was totally spoiled, so apparently the college town of Urbana-Champaign was so backwoods that they might not have drinkable tap water.

Is this in the wrong thread? This shit doesn't "make my day", it depresses me.

How about something from the flip side? I have a friend who is so Mustachian, she brings her own water bottle everywhere. She won't even use a glass at our home, because she doesn't want us to have to wash it (she does use our tap water, though). Of course, in and of itself, that's not terribly uncommon. The awesomely Mustachian part is that her "water bottle" is actually an old glass apple juice bottle that she has been carrying around for years.
One of my fellow PTA members forgot her "water bottle" at the meeting last night.

It's an old mayo jar.

This makes me smile just because there are so many other bottles she could have picked....she must like to chug her water and maybe likes the big mouth? I would spill it all over myself! lol!
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Giro on March 25, 2015, 07:11:14 AM
I watched a documentary on plastic waste in the oceans and landfills.  I don't care about the money people spend, but I do care about polluting our environment because people can't be bothered to bring their own water in a reusable water bottle.

Also, grocery bags.....good grief, why are we using so many grocery bags.  Can't we take a few mins to grab some old bags and reuse them.  It makes me very sad.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: I'm a red panda on March 25, 2015, 07:36:48 AM
  Can't we take a few mins to grab some old bags and reuse them.  It makes me very sad.

I do this. Half the time I still get a clerk who bags a few things separate in plastic bags to put into my reusable ones!

If I say "oh, I don't need a plastic bag, they crumble it up and throw it in the trash"- so the bag is used either way!
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: johnny847 on March 25, 2015, 08:45:43 AM
I watched a documentary on plastic waste in the oceans and landfills.  I don't care about the money people spend, but I do care about polluting our environment because people can't be bothered to bring their own water in a reusable water bottle.

Also, grocery bags.....good grief, why are we using so many grocery bags.  Can't we take a few mins to grab some old bags and reuse them.  It makes me very sad.

The county my parents live in instituted a 5 cent tax on every plastic bag taken at checkout. This reduced plastic bag use, but apparently not by as much as the county had predicted.
Looks like they should raise the tax.

They should do this in more places. I can't really see the downside.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: I'm a red panda on March 25, 2015, 09:14:45 AM
What does the money go to?

I'd say the downside is government interference. A lot of people prefer small government, but that's kind of a laughable concept in this day. 

I wish we had to pay for bags, assuming you got to request them, rather than just be forced to pay when the cashier gives you 30 bags when 3 would do.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: zephyr911 on March 25, 2015, 09:41:59 AM
What does the money go to?

I'd say the downside is government interference. A lot of people prefer small government, but that's kind of a laughable concept in this day. 

I wish we had to pay for bags, assuming you got to request them, rather than just be forced to pay when the cashier gives you 30 bags when 3 would do.
Sounds like a strong incentive to bring your own, amirite? I'm forever forgetting to bring my reusable bags, so I get plastic and I recycle them religiously. If I got charged for each one, I'd stop forgetting with a quickness.
(Vaguely related: commissary baggers, whose pay is 100% tips, are the worst about overused bags. I'm talking, half full and everything double-bagged. My theory: they think more bags = more $$)
I'm all for minimal government interference, all else being equal, but if people insist on doing shit that hurts each other, the obvious solution is for government to intervene. That's a large part of the growth of regulations - the more we realize that what we do affects others, the more rules we make about it. In this era, those effects are increasing due to population pressures, as well as gaining awareness via our ever-increasing knowledge of the world and our ability to desseminate it.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: johnny847 on March 25, 2015, 10:54:01 AM
What does the money go to?

I'd say the downside is government interference. A lot of people prefer small government, but that's kind of a laughable concept in this day. 

I wish we had to pay for bags, assuming you got to request them, rather than just be forced to pay when the cashier gives you 30 bags when 3 would do.

The money goes to water quality and stormwater control programs. Makes sense considering bags are estimated to make up 1/3 of the litter found in streams and stormwater pounds in the county.

You're asked if you want a bag. My parents tried to reuse plastic bags before they instituted the tax but usually forgot. Now they always use their reusable bags, and have never paid the tax.

And I'm with zephyr911's stance on this government interference.

Interestingly, Target will give you 5 cents for every bag you bring and use. Which is kinda weird because what if you brought in like 30 bags and bagged each item separately? I've never tried that but I'm sure the cashier would only give you 5 cents for every bag that was actually necessary or something like that.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Sibley on March 25, 2015, 11:52:46 AM
I watched a documentary on plastic waste in the oceans and landfills.  I don't care about the money people spend, but I do care about polluting our environment because people can't be bothered to bring their own water in a reusable water bottle.

Also, grocery bags.....good grief, why are we using so many grocery bags.  Can't we take a few mins to grab some old bags and reuse them.  It makes me very sad.

I use grocery bags to clean the litterboxes and trash liners for all but the kitchen trash.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: I'm a red panda on March 25, 2015, 12:08:31 PM

I use grocery bags to clean the litterboxes and trash liners for all but the kitchen trash.

I actually stopped lining my non-kitchen trash cans once I read something about "gift wrapping" our trash.  Now I just dump them into the kitchen trash on pick-up day.  Way less bags go into the garbage this way.

I do still use my plastic bags for backyard cleanup after the dogs, but not at the rate the stores give them to me. And this is WITH bringing reusable bags.  They sneak them in there. Drives me crazy.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: zephyr911 on March 25, 2015, 12:14:18 PM

I use grocery bags to clean the litterboxes and trash liners for all but the kitchen trash.

I actually stopped lining my non-kitchen trash cans once I read something about "gift wrapping" our trash.  Now I just dump them into the kitchen trash on pick-up day.  Way less bags go into the garbage this way.

I do still use my plastic bags for backyard cleanup after the dogs, but not at the rate the stores give them to me. And this is WITH bringing reusable bags.  They sneak them in there. Drives me crazy.
This is Mustachian environmentally but not financially: I actually buy my own biodegradable doggy bags instead of just using grocery bags. I thought about it for a while and decided I cared enough to drop a few bucks a year on a roll.
Now I can throw the bag in the compost pile when I get home instead of the trash.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: blackomen on March 25, 2015, 09:04:48 PM
Every time I go to work, I see a bunch of colleagues carrying an expensive coffee cup, their "morning latte" with them. That thing costs them $3.5 plus taxes.
That's close to a thousand dollars a year. It puts a huge smile on my face every time I see someone with a Starbucks coffee in their hand, thinking "ha, I just saved myself $1000 by looking at you". No empathy for them. at. all. (am I a bad person?)

What non-mustachian behavior from your peers puts a smile on your face?

When I was in college, the homeless man outside of the starbucks near where I live would go in and buy coffee almost everyday.  I knew this because he seemed to buy coffee at about the same time every single day as me.  And I guess I'd be equally as guilty too since I had a daily starbucks habit back then.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: MgoSam on April 07, 2015, 01:49:30 PM
What good does it do to laugh at other people and their "weakness"? Is this supposed to make you feel better about yourself? Maybe people who buy lattes do so because they like it and find it worth the 1k/year expense, or maybe they are just mindless? Who are we to judge? Who cares?

What part of "The Antimustachian Wall of Shame and Comedy" do you not understand?  "Sometimes the world just needs to be mocked."  Lord knows the rest of the world mocks frugal people all the time.

Also, buying lattes is a ridiculous thing considering the cost difference when you make it yourself.  Humanity invented these things called thermos's, coffee machines, and instant coffee that produce coffee at literally 1/100th of the price of a Starbucks coffee.

This blog is not for the mindless consumer automatons - it's for the people out there that are capable of rational thought but are constantly facing peer pressure to do things that are complete wastes of money.  This forum is meant to provide counter-examples so that they can understand what not to do.

Also, I don't personally care if someone spends $1,000 a year on lattes, the reason the topic keeps getting brought up is that it appears that many of the people that do have a latte habit are the same ones that say they have no money to save/invest, or are living paycheck to paycheck. My company had a receptionist that complained about her salary and not being able to make ends meet, but always grabbed for lunch. To my knowledge in the past 5 years the only lunches she had that were bag lunches were ones that another coworker brought in for her as a favor. I bring this up not to denigrate her, but instead to mention why such things belong in the section of the thread. And yes, me and a few other people had tried encouraging her to either cook, or bring in something microwavable or even just bring bread and meat and vegetables and stuff to keep in the fridge.

You ask who cares, we do. I am someone that plans on hitting FIRE by the age of 35 and have a ton of friends that think of me as being crazy because they spend a lot of money. Threads like this one help remind me why they may be that way and so I have better context. At the same time, it can honestly help me stay on track as there are times when I want to splurge. If this thread isn't for you there is no shame in that. I don't see this as schadenfreude but if you think this is and think that it might be damaging for you, then I do encourage you to spend time on other threads and ignore this one.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: StockBeard on April 07, 2015, 02:03:48 PM
Ha, it was not my intent to start such a discussion on "is it ok to mock other people's bad habits", but I'll bite.

As MgoSam and Moustaches have stated, the goal is not to make myself feel better, but to confirm to myself why this whole frugality thing works: I'm not FIREd yet, so doubt comes regularly to my mind: "does this whole thing even work?". The "colleagues bringing a latte everyday" helps confirm it on a daily basis, it's a way for me to keep focused on my goals. Noticing all the "bad" habits from other people, and reminding myself "*this* is one of the reasons it's going to work for me, let's keep going".

I'm not mocking people or laughing at them, but I take some satisfaction and pride in resisting my own urges for instant gratification. Looking at other people whom I work with daily helps me building a checklist of things not to do: Expensive clothes? Check. Daily $5 latte? Check. A different pair of shoes every single day of the week? Check. A new phone every 6 months? check. Car commute everyday to compensate for a bad apartment decision? check. And so on and so forth. It helps me reflect on my own choices once in a while too.

Whenever I can, I discuss my frugality with colleagues, but most of the time I find closed doors. The most open colleague I got answered to me "yeah, it probably works, but I would have to give up things I'm not willing to give up in order to make this work". so, I'm not a complete douchebag about this, but I'd rather laugh about people's habits (including mine) than cry about it :)
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: zoltani on April 07, 2015, 04:05:25 PM
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Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Kris on April 07, 2015, 05:39:28 PM
Pretty soon the only kinds of posts more frequent than people being smug, will be other people smugly pointing out how smug they are being.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Wings5 on April 07, 2015, 07:29:55 PM
If people can't see how a $600/month car loan is hurting them, do we really think a 5 centavo pricetag on bags is going to make them blink?
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: inSecurity on April 07, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
I enjoy this section because it helps to poke fun at past-me and to ensure I don't relapse.  I'm sure most of us here weren't always as good about avoiding waste as we are now.

I've also seen it mentioned that it helps to put our own little splurges, I believe someone mentioned a bag of apples, in perspective.  For myself, I know it bothers me when I have anything go bad.  This is to the point that my wife has to throw things away when they get to be more mold than food, I'd still pick it off and eat the rest if it was just up to me.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: LiveLean on April 08, 2015, 09:24:30 AM
   One thing I used to wonder about when I was a working stiff was the number of co workers who had swimming pools.  I live in an apartment so we have an outdoor pool in summer but I have no idea how much that costs. Growing up, I only knew only one kid whose family had a pool so I think of them as being for rich people only (Dad never learned to swim, Mom loved it so she was in YWCA to use their pool).

There is nothing more overrated that having your own swimming pool. I'm embarrassed to say I have pools in both primary residence and beach rental property. I didn't build either of them and the beach rental commands waaay more in summer rent because it has a pool (even though it's a block from the ocean and backs up to a fresh-water canal, which people also could swim in.) But after we sell primary residence by late 2016 we will never have a pool at "home" other than the community pool our future condo rental will provide.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Megma on April 09, 2015, 07:05:00 PM
If people can't see how a $600/month car loan is hurting them, do we really think a 5 centavo pricetag on bags is going to make them blink?

I was living in dc when they passed the 5 cent bag tax there and six months later plastic trash in the local rivers had declined something like 80%, which I was impressed by. Not sure how's it's going now. It also made grocery stores much more flexible about using my bags which was nice, bc brining your own became more of the norm.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: FIRE me on April 09, 2015, 09:50:15 PM

What non-mustachian behavior from your peers puts a smile on your face?

Making decent money working 60 hour weeks, then losing their whole paycheck at the nearest casino. Then doing it again in an attempt to “win it back”.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: PMG on April 09, 2015, 10:37:11 PM

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Sounds like a strong incentive to bring your own, amirite? I'm forever forgetting to bring my reusable bags, so I get plastic and I recycle them religiously. If I got charged for each one, I'd stop forgetting with a quickness.
 
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Off original topic, on the sub topic:

I broke the plastic bag habit when I bought a pretty reusable grocery bag at the beach. It has an ocean scene on it ans always reminded me of that vacation and I was somehow more motivated to remember to use it...


Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: kyanamerinas on April 10, 2015, 02:44:13 AM

Sounds like a strong incentive to bring your own, amirite? I'm forever forgetting to bring my reusable bags, so I get plastic and I recycle them religiously. If I got charged for each one, I'd stop forgetting with a quickness.
 
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Off original topic, on the sub topic:

I broke the plastic bag habit when I bought a pretty reusable grocery bag at the beach. It has an ocean scene on it ans always reminded me of that vacation and I was somehow more motivated to remember to use it...
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I use a big canvas bag as my standard handbag, don't keep much in it (keys, purse, phone) but means I rarely have to take a bag when shopping. We walk to the shop for our weekly shop which makes remembering reusable bags easier as it's obvious we need something to get it home in, to us at least (those thin plastic bags are horrible for walking any distance).
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: MgoSam on April 10, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
If people can't see how a $600/month car loan is hurting them, do we really think a 5 centavo pricetag on bags is going to make them blink?

I was living in dc when they passed the 5 cent bag tax there and six months later plastic trash in the local rivers had declined something like 80%, which I was impressed by. Not sure how's it's going now. It also made grocery stores much more flexible about using my bags which was nice, bc brining your own became more of the norm.

Aldi's charges for using a plastic or paper bag, and I love their prices so I'll usually keep a tote bag in my car. Worst case if I forget I'll just grab an empty cartoon from a shelf and use that to carry my things to the car. I really don't know how much they charge for bags, cause I have never actively considered paying for it.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Sibley on April 10, 2015, 01:56:46 PM
If people can't see how a $600/month car loan is hurting them, do we really think a 5 centavo pricetag on bags is going to make them blink?

I was living in dc when they passed the 5 cent bag tax there and six months later plastic trash in the local rivers had declined something like 80%, which I was impressed by. Not sure how's it's going now. It also made grocery stores much more flexible about using my bags which was nice, bc brining your own became more of the norm.

Aldi's charges for using a plastic or paper bag, and I love their prices so I'll usually keep a tote bag in my car. Worst case if I forget I'll just grab an empty cartoon from a shelf and use that to carry my things to the car. I really don't know how much they charge for bags, cause I have never actively considered paying for it.

Yeah, but I use those plastic bags for trash bags and to clean the litterboxes. I do not throw them out!
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: gimp on April 10, 2015, 02:15:58 PM
When I first moved to the bay area, I was pissed I couldn't get a plastic bag and had to pay for paper ones.

Then I realized that I never - ever - saw plastic bag litter all over the bloody streets, tucked into crannies of buildings, in rivers, in the ocean.

Just for that, I'm more than happy with the restriction on plastic bags. My life hasn't turned worse because of it, but it's nice not to have them everywhere.
Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: thurston howell iv on April 14, 2015, 10:05:55 AM
I don't really revel in other peoples bad choices. Kind of makes me sad to see all the lost potential and the wasted lives.

However, there is an individual at my work that is the bane of the office's existence. A royal PITA!  One day this individual announces that the old jalopy they are driving is falling apart and therefore "needs" a new car. They proceed to ask me advice. I recommend a reasonable used car for under $3k. They 1) scoff at the idea of a $3k car 2) don't have $3k for a car 3) proceed to bring a new-to-them used car to the office to show off. ($12k). They ask for my opinion. I tell them it's a mistake. They buy the car. A year later, mired in the debt of the car payment, they decide that they need the newest, latest, greatest cel phone. I suggest a cheaper alternative. They buy the new phone anyway (it's a necessity- you know, I need to be able to text and check my email on my cel)...

Fast forward and they now bad-mouth the car saying it's a piece of junk and that the dealer should just take it back (and that they need something better), also complaining that they spent $600 on a high end phone (actually, it was a $100 wal mart promo deal) and that it's junk and the service is junk and everyone is out to get them.

This is also an individual that regularly has less than $20 in the bank, waits with bated breath for the next paycheck only to blow through it, and is constantly on about how they were out to dinner every night last week and went shopping here and there... All the while spending inordinate amount of time on the phone yelling at the bank for the late fees and overdraft fees because of the NSF condition of the accounts.

Pure waste.

Title: Re: Antimustachian behavior that makes your day
Post by: Helvegen on April 14, 2015, 10:33:46 AM
Every time I go to work, I see a bunch of colleagues carrying an expensive coffee cup, their "morning latte" with them. That thing costs them $3.5 plus taxes.
That's close to a thousand dollars a year. It puts a huge smile on my face every time I see someone with a Starbucks coffee in their hand, thinking "ha, I just saved myself $1000 by looking at you". No empathy for them. at. all. (am I a bad person?)

This puzzles me too. We have several K-Cup machines here with a decent selection of cups, creamers, and sweeteners for free. But many of my co-workers make it a point not to go to Starbeetus just once a day, but sometimes twice. They come in with it in the morning, and then at lunch or on break, will run out to get more. People will often regularly pay 2 to 5 times for items from the vending area than they could have paid just buying it from the grocery store. Soda is a big one I see. I pay .21 cents a can for my diet soda and keep the case at my desk. From the machine, it costs .99.

I regularly have co-workers come to me and complain about this and that bill or how they are so broke (I think they assume I HAVE to be in their boat because I am one of the lower paid employees here), in the next breath talking about the house they want to upgrade to and how they just spread a vacation over three now maxed cards because they deserved a break.