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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2015, 11:57:09 AM »
I'm Canadian, so during winter, it's too cold to really walk places.

I'm going to have to call BS on this claim.  Not that it's not cold or that your not Canadian, but that there is such a thing as "too cold to really walk places".  I was in an extreme cold weather unit when I was in the USMC, so I learned some tricks & own some gear most people wouldn't know about; but I've also put those tricks into practice.  I commuted by bike for over three years straight, 8.5 miles each direction.  I also worked the second shift, so my commute home was always after dark.  There were some pretty chilly winter rides home, without the benefit of direct sun.  One in particular was right after a major ice storm in the area, when the air temps got below -10 F.  It was so cold, that the grease in my wheel bearings was starting to gel, and made the ride even more work than normal.  I would not voluntarily do that again, but I did do it, and without losing any fingers or toes; so I can attest that it's possible to dress for the weather.  And with practice & patience, riding a bike on ice isn't as dangerous as it would seem, either.  It was easier to stay upright on the bike moving with caution than walking.
I'm gonna guess you're quoting that person I've seen elsewhere on this forum talk about -30 to -50 F.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2015, 12:26:19 PM »
I'm Canadian, so during winter, it's too cold to really walk places.

I'm going to have to call BS on this claim.  Not that it's not cold or that your not Canadian, but that there is such a thing as "too cold to really walk places".  I was in an extreme cold weather unit when I was in the USMC, so I learned some tricks & own some gear most people wouldn't know about; but I've also put those tricks into practice.  I commuted by bike for over three years straight, 8.5 miles each direction.  I also worked the second shift, so my commute home was always after dark.  There were some pretty chilly winter rides home, without the benefit of direct sun.  One in particular was right after a major ice storm in the area, when the air temps got below -10 F.  It was so cold, that the grease in my wheel bearings was starting to gel, and made the ride even more work than normal.  I would not voluntarily do that again, but I did do it, and without losing any fingers or toes; so I can attest that it's possible to dress for the weather.  And with practice & patience, riding a bike on ice isn't as dangerous as it would seem, either.  It was easier to stay upright on the bike moving with caution than walking.
I'm gonna guess you're quoting that person I've seen elsewhere on this forum talk about -30 to -50 F.

if it gets to the point where you have to buy larger boots so you can wear 5 pair of socks I am going to go along with the "its to cold to walk" statement and not call anyone a wuss. 

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2015, 01:04:18 PM »
Some of it is personal frame of reference. A friend was finished borrowing our truck and said that we could come get it as they couldn't get it to us by the time we needed it. They live 7 miles from us. I told my wife that I would just put a key in my pocket and run there. She absolutely flipped out: "That's too far! I will drive you! You can't do that!" I had to explain to her that I normally run about that in the morning (6 miles 3x a week plus a long run on the weekend) before she is awake but she was still uneasy about it.

The whole fact that I would run to actually get somewhere blew her mind even though we both have trained for and run half marathons.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2015, 01:19:04 PM »
It's mind blowing how lazy people can be.  You would think that in New England people would be able to deal with the cold at least a little bit. 

I work in South Boston, and off street parking is hard to find and a valuable commodity.  Our company has a parking lot but it fills up early, and is so tight and crowded that there are constant minor accidents and fender benders which causes a lot of tension amongst the ranks.  So our company decides to buy some spaces from a nearby lot and give them to the first employees that ask for them.  These are nice guaranteed spots that you don't have to fight for, in a nice gated lot.  The only "downside" is that you have to walk a block outside to get to work.  I only found out about these spots because the human resources manager happened to mention that he had a hard time getting anyone to take them because they had to walk.  When I heard that I snapped up one of those spaces.  I think there are still one or two that no one ever claimed. 

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2015, 01:57:15 PM »

I'm Canadian, so during winter, it's too cold to really walk places.

That is a bit to general. But combined with the darkness I would agree with you that in many places in Canada winter walking is not pleasurable.

Once, years ago, during a cold spell I had to walk about 15 min to my car. It was close to -40 (no need to convert since Fahrenheit = Centigrade at freeken -40).  It was also close to midnight so no one was around.  I was dressed in winter clothes, boots, hat, gloves, scarf  etc. but no artic parka or snow-pants (I probably had long underwear & jeans).   It was during that walk that I realised people could die from the cold. Of course I made it, but I understood how you could get delirious and just want to lay down and huddle up.

I think the major Canadian cities like Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver (maybe Calgary) are walkable all year round because they are a little warmer &/or have good public transit just in case. But I visited Halifax last winter and the ice on the sidewalks was so treacherous that walking was dangerous.   

Are there any MMMs from Winterpeg, Edmonton, Saskatoon  or smaller towns and rural areas that get around just on foot all year round? 

I can see walking/hitchhiking  happening in “ski” villages like Whistler, Banff, Jasper or Tremblant.

What about Alaska? Iceland, Norway, Russia?  I'm not even sure how cold it actually gets there. Of course it varies based on city.

Please share your badassity.

I live in ________ (you can be general for privacy)
I walk  _______ miles ( or km) almost every day
The coldest days are - ______ (Fahrenheit or Centigrade )

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2015, 02:00:28 PM »
I'm going to be walking 2 miles to a dinner with my undergrad's local alumni association. And I'm sure if this comes up in conversation, people will think I'm nuts.

Google Maps estimates it will take somewhere between 10 to 26 minutes because of traffic. It will probably end up being about 20 minutes.

Google Maps estimates a 46 minute walk. I usually walk at 15 min/mile though, so it'll probably take about 30 minutes.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2015, 02:39:13 PM »
I live in the biggest city on Alaska. It doesn't get as cold here anymore thanks to climate change. But growing up we would regularly have cold snaps down to -30 F for a couple of weeks every winter. I walked to the city bus stop in the winter in high school. Walking is the best mode of transport at extreme low temperatures. That or dog sledding. I am still alive. It can be done. One mile in the winter is NBD.

Some tips:

Don't wear tons of extra socks. Instead cut yourself some boot insoles from closed cell foam. Then put sheepskin insoles on top. Sorels and other pac boots made of rubber do not keep your feet warm. If you are hanging out at the bus stop bring a square of closed cell foam to stand/sit on. Mittens are warmer than gloves (duh). Tuck a small dog inside your jacket. Insulated skirts for all genders. Use a vapor barrier liner for extreme cold and/or exercise outdoors in winter. Don't touch metal things.


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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2015, 02:42:31 PM »
Don't touch metal things.

With your tongue!

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2015, 03:21:24 PM »
I'm Canadian, so during winter, it's too cold to really walk places.

I'm going to have to call BS on this claim.  Not that it's not cold or that your not Canadian, but that there is such a thing as "too cold to really walk places".  I was in an extreme cold weather unit when I was in the USMC, so I learned some tricks & own some gear most people wouldn't know about; but I've also put those tricks into practice.  I commuted by bike for over three years straight, 8.5 miles each direction.  I also worked the second shift, so my commute home was always after dark.  There were some pretty chilly winter rides home, without the benefit of direct sun.  One in particular was right after a major ice storm in the area, when the air temps got below -10 F.  It was so cold, that the grease in my wheel bearings was starting to gel, and made the ride even more work than normal.  I would not voluntarily do that again, but I did do it, and without losing any fingers or toes; so I can attest that it's possible to dress for the weather.  And with practice & patience, riding a bike on ice isn't as dangerous as it would seem, either.  It was easier to stay upright on the bike moving with caution than walking.
I'm gonna guess you're quoting that person I've seen elsewhere on this forum talk about -30 to -50 F.

I don't even know who you are talking about.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2015, 03:27:25 PM »
Tuck a small dog inside your jacket.

Good advice.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2015, 03:43:32 PM »
Tuck a small dog inside your jacket.

Good advice.

Next up: Mustachians debate the least expensive breed of jacket dog and how to save money on pet food without sacrificing dog quality.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2015, 03:46:46 PM »
Tuck a small dog inside your jacket.

Good advice.

I would use a fuel powered pocket warmer instead, but I suppose an animal would work.

Some more tips...

Buy a balaclava and learn how to use it, it's not self evident in every case.

Use an oversized overcoat when possible.  If it's colder than you expected it would be, wad up some paper and stuff it into the sides to create a larger air pocket.

Margarine has a melting point almost identical to the human skin temp, so take some and make some phase change pads with thick ziplock bags or something else waterproof & flexible.  Stuff them in areas that you tend to get cold fastest, and before you leave the house.  Give your body some time to melt the margarine before exiting, this will help buffer you against sudden drops in body temp in those areas.  Directly next to skin is ideal, but not often preferred by most people.

Wool & polypropolene socks are both wonderful investments.  If you can't stand the feel of either, buy them a bit big and wear a regular pair of cotton socks under them.

In boots, water resistance is more important than insulation; but both are wise.  If you buy boots just for cold weather, make sure you have as much airspace near the toes as possible.

Use layers, and tuck your shirt tails in well.

If you get tired, slow down; but never stop.  If you get cold because you slowed down, go faster.

Eat a candy bar right before you leave the house, I recommend Snickers.  In addition to simply making you feel good, this will excite your digestive system, which can contribute to a great deal of core body heat production for about 20 minutes.  Just about any food should work, but it's a good excuse to keep candy bars around the house in winter.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2015, 03:53:53 PM »

I'm Canadian, so during winter, it's too cold to really walk places.

I can see walking/hitchhiking  happening in “ski” villages like Whistler, Banff, Jasper or

I live in ________ (you can be general for privacy)
I walk  _______ miles ( or km) almost every day
The coldest days are - ______ (Fahrenheit or Centigrade )

It is never too cold to walk or bike:

I live in Yellowknife

I walk 7.4 km every day with a dog. I prefer biking and bought a special bike leash last summer, but the dog hates it. Fridays (today) are an exception: I have to walk about 25 km due to a double-shift. Most days, even the coldest, I truly enjoy my walk. Today, it was relatively mild but I can't say I enjoyed it (like all Fridays) mostly because I wasted so much time just walking from one place to another.

The coldest days are - 48 Centigrade without the windchill factor

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2015, 05:57:05 PM »
-10F is about -23C - that was the temperature most mornings last winter - definitely every morning when I was putting the garbage out at 7 AM. Nights were mostly around -25 to -30, it was a cold winter. But the nice thing is, cold means sunny and a clear blue sky.  Snow comes at -5 to-10C when the air has more moisture.  If the bike is set up for it, cold is not so bad - it is the horrible traction after a storm, when the snow is deep and wet.  My dog loves the cold, but then she has the coat for it (think no skin visible no matter how hard you try to see it through the fur. 

I'm Canadian, so during winter, it's too cold to really walk places.

I'm going to have to call BS on this claim.  Not that it's not cold or that your not Canadian, but that there is such a thing as "too cold to really walk places".  I was in an extreme cold weather unit when I was in the USMC, so I learned some tricks & own some gear most people wouldn't know about; but I've also put those tricks into practice.  I commuted by bike for over three years straight, 8.5 miles each direction.  I also worked the second shift, so my commute home was always after dark.  There were some pretty chilly winter rides home, without the benefit of direct sun.  One in particular was right after a major ice storm in the area, when the air temps got below -10 F.  It was so cold, that the grease in my wheel bearings was starting to gel, and made the ride even more work than normal.  I would not voluntarily do that again, but I did do it, and without losing any fingers or toes; so I can attest that it's possible to dress for the weather.  And with practice & patience, riding a bike on ice isn't as dangerous as it would seem, either.  It was easier to stay upright on the bike moving with caution than walking.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2015, 06:05:29 PM »
I'm friends with some co-workers who live right near me and we used to walk to work together. It's about 25 minutes. One day I google mapped it and made the mistake of mentioning to them that it was about 1.1 miles, so we were getting some decent exercise. They never wanted to walk any more. Apparently a mile is a big psychological barrier.

I guess people don't even want to walk a mile in their OWN shoes, let alone someone else's.  :D

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2015, 06:37:09 PM »
Since we have gone from distance (too far) to temperature (too cold) I just had to dig this up:
How Cold Is Cold?

60 Californians put on sweaters (if they can find one)
50 Miami residents turn on the heat
40 You can see your breath, Californians shiver uncontrollably, Minnesotans go swimming
35 Italian cars don't start
32 Water freezes
30 You plan your vacation to Australia
25 Boston water freezes, Californians weep pitiably, Minnesotans eat ice cream, Canadians go swimming
20 Politicians begin to talk about the homeless, New York City water freezes, Miami residents plan vacation further South
15 French cars don't start, Cat insists on sleeping in your bed with you
10 You need jumper cables to get the car going
5 American cars don't start
0 Alaskans put on T-shirts
-10 German cars don't start, Eyes freeze shut when you blink
-15 You can cut your breath and use it to build an igloo, Arkansans stick tongue on metal objects, Miami residents cease to exist
-20 Cat insists on sleeping in pajamas with you, Politicians actually do something about the homeless, Minnesotans shovel snow off roof, Japanese cars don't start
-25 Too cold to think, You need jumper cables to get the driver going
-30 You plan a two week hot bath, Swedish cars don't start
-40 Californians disappear, Minnesotans button top button, Canadians put on sweaters, Your car helps you plan your trip South
-50 Congressional hot air freezes, Alaskans close the bathroom window
-80 Hell freezes over, Polar bears move South
-90 Lawyers put their hands in their own pockets

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2015, 07:26:16 PM »
Are there any MMMs from Winterpeg, Edmonton, Saskatoon  or smaller towns and rural areas that get around just on foot all year round? 

I can see walking/hitchhiking  happening in “ski” villages like Whistler, Banff, Jasper or Tremblant.

What about Alaska? Iceland, Norway, Russia?  I'm not even sure how cold it actually gets there. Of course it varies based on city.

Please share your badassity.

I live in ________ (you can be general for privacy)
I walk  _______ miles ( or km) almost every day
The coldest days are - ______ (Fahrenheit or Centigrade )

I live in Alberta.  Daytime temps can get down to -35ish C.  I walk everywhere, but I'm a wimp;  I only walk to work and back if it's under -20 or so, and wait for it to warm up a bit before going farther afield, to the grocery store or whatever - that's a couple km away.  It does get up to like -10 regularly, even in the middle of winter.  Positively tropical.  ;)

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2015, 12:56:20 PM »
Since we have gone from distance (too far) to temperature (too cold) I just had to dig this up:
How Cold Is Cold?

60 Californians put on sweaters (if they can find one)
50 Miami residents turn on the heat
40 You can see your breath, Californians shiver uncontrollably, Minnesotans go swimming
35 Italian cars don't start
32 Water freezes
30 You plan your vacation to Australia
25 Boston water freezes, Californians weep pitiably, Minnesotans eat ice cream, Canadians go swimming
20 Politicians begin to talk about the homeless, New York City water freezes, Miami residents plan vacation further South
15 French cars don't start, Cat insists on sleeping in your bed with you
10 You need jumper cables to get the car going
5 American cars don't start
0 Alaskans put on T-shirts
-10 German cars don't start, Eyes freeze shut when you blink
-15 You can cut your breath and use it to build an igloo, Arkansans stick tongue on metal objects, Miami residents cease to exist
-20 Cat insists on sleeping in pajamas with you, Politicians actually do something about the homeless, Minnesotans shovel snow off roof, Japanese cars don't start
-25 Too cold to think, You need jumper cables to get the driver going
-30 You plan a two week hot bath, Swedish cars don't start
-40 Californians disappear, Minnesotans button top button, Canadians put on sweaters, Your car helps you plan your trip South
-50 Congressional hot air freezes, Alaskans close the bathroom window
-80 Hell freezes over, Polar bears move South
-90 Lawyers put their hands in their own pockets


Love it!

Reminded me of a local issue last January.  A sign went up warning that the lift bridge in the middle of the village would close Jan 26.  DH and I were at a fire company Officer Installation dinner, and ended up sitting at a table with most of the local politicians.  Everyone wanted to know what was up with the sign and the bridge - the police chief filled us in - the Thruway Authority was painting the bridge deck.  At the height  of blizzard season.  When we were having an unusually cold spell (expected weeks of -30F).  As some of the DPW guys remarked, paint doesn't work so well at those temps.  It was nearly March before they were done - major inconvenience for anyone who needed to get from one side of the canal to the other on foot, since the closest high bridge inside the village had been removed decades ago.  You had to go outside the village to get to the next nearest bridge, then loop back to your destination on the other side.

So apparently, in WNY:
-30 You paint steel deck lift bridges

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2015, 03:01:14 PM »
Are there any MMMs from Winterpeg, Edmonton, Saskatoon  or smaller towns and rural areas that get around just on foot all year round? 

I can see walking/hitchhiking  happening in “ski” villages like Whistler, Banff, Jasper or Tremblant.

What about Alaska? Iceland, Norway, Russia?  I'm not even sure how cold it actually gets there. Of course it varies based on city.

Please share your badassity.

I live in ________ (you can be general for privacy)
I walk  _______ miles ( or km) almost every day
The coldest days are - ______ (Fahrenheit or Centigrade )

I live in Alberta.  Daytime temps can get down to -35ish C.  I walk everywhere, but I'm a wimp;  I only walk to work and back if it's under -20 or so, and wait for it to warm up a bit before going farther afield, to the grocery store or whatever - that's a couple km away.  It does get up to like -10 regularly, even in the middle of winter.  Positively tropical.  ;)

I used to live in the Eastern Arctic. When the air was calm I used to walk the 2.3 kms to work each day. That was very enjoyable on a sunny spring day, even at -40C/F. But if the lightest breeze blows up...well, then it is just hard work, keeping your flesh from freezing.

You can and do get used to anything. 

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #69 on: November 15, 2015, 06:39:31 AM »

Ha. In Tallahassee, there is such a map and the only ring is for a 15 minute walk. It does say below that the ring represents 1/4 mile. Even if count it as being 1/3 of a mile since you have to use blocks and not straight lines, who walks that slow?

Lots of retirees (and not ER style retirees) in Tallahassee....

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #70 on: November 15, 2015, 09:06:59 AM »
Since we have gone from distance (too far) to temperature (too cold) I just had to dig this up:
How Cold Is Cold?

60 Californians put on sweaters (if they can find one)
50 Miami residents turn on the heat
40 You can see your breath, Californians shiver uncontrollably, Minnesotans go swimming
35 Italian cars don't start
32 Water freezes
30 You plan your vacation to Australia
25 Boston water freezes, Californians weep pitiably, Minnesotans eat ice cream, Canadians go swimming
20 Politicians begin to talk about the homeless, New York City water freezes, Miami residents plan vacation further South
15 French cars don't start, Cat insists on sleeping in your bed with you
10 You need jumper cables to get the car going
5 American cars don't start
0 Alaskans put on T-shirts
-10 German cars don't start, Eyes freeze shut when you blink
-15 You can cut your breath and use it to build an igloo, Arkansans stick tongue on metal objects, Miami residents cease to exist
-20 Cat insists on sleeping in pajamas with you, Politicians actually do something about the homeless, Minnesotans shovel snow off roof, Japanese cars don't start
-25 Too cold to think, You need jumper cables to get the driver going
-30 You plan a two week hot bath, Swedish cars don't start
-40 Californians disappear, Minnesotans button top button, Canadians put on sweaters, Your car helps you plan your trip South
-50 Congressional hot air freezes, Alaskans close the bathroom window
-80 Hell freezes over, Polar bears move South
-90 Lawyers put their hands in their own pockets

this makes me chuckle, as I sit in my house shivering (in CA), working up the gumption to go for  a morning walk (it's 55F).  I grew up in western PA, boy  have I gotten soft!

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2015, 01:25:43 PM »
Since we have gone from distance (too far) to temperature (too cold) I just had to dig this up:
How Cold Is Cold?

60 Californians put on sweaters (if they can find one)

I'm in California wearing a sweatshirt. I'm sure glad it was (just a little) over 40F this morning - its hard to bike while shivering uncontrollably.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2015, 01:30:03 PM »
We just moved to Boston and in order to stay within our housing budget we're living 1.1 miles from the train station and bar area. Though I'd rather be a bit closer in, when we rented this place I considered that totally walkable. On Friday night we met up with a few friends for drinks and they asked us if we drove. 1.1 miles on a clear, warm, Fall evening. They were shocked and appalled that we walked. Everyone else we've talked to has expressed disappointment in how far out we are from the T, like we're living in Siberia. Doesn't anybody in this town walk anywhere?

Yeah I don't get this either. When I visited Boston to see friends they all took public transportation. But then we were all 20-somethings. Geesh. My Dad when he visits Florida in the winter, walks 5-7 miles each morning for enjoyment. He's in his 80's.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #73 on: November 16, 2015, 06:33:47 PM »
I'm Canadian, so during winter, it's too cold to really walk places.

I'm going to have to call BS on this claim.  Not that it's not cold or that your not Canadian, but that there is such a thing as "too cold to really walk places".  I was in an extreme cold weather unit when I was in the USMC, so I learned some tricks & own some gear most people wouldn't know about; but I've also put those tricks into practice.  I commuted by bike for over three years straight, 8.5 miles each direction.  I also worked the second shift, so my commute home was always after dark.  There were some pretty chilly winter rides home, without the benefit of direct sun.  One in particular was right after a major ice storm in the area, when the air temps got below -10 F.  It was so cold, that the grease in my wheel bearings was starting to gel, and made the ride even more work than normal.  I would not voluntarily do that again, but I did do it, and without losing any fingers or toes; so I can attest that it's possible to dress for the weather.  And with practice & patience, riding a bike on ice isn't as dangerous as it would seem, either.  It was easier to stay upright on the bike moving with caution than walking.
I'm gonna guess you're quoting that person I've seen elsewhere on this forum talk about -30 to -50 F.

I don't even know who you are talking about.
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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2015, 09:07:56 AM »
We were out with our 2.5 year old twins out for a walk around our neighborhood, when we met some of our new neighbors (we just moved to the area). When we explained where we lived, one replied 'Oh, you're out on a long walk, then.'

The entire loop is about 1.5 miles. My kids ran most of it.
It is crazy to me that adults will whine about walking a mile and then assume that the kids can walk even shorter distances than they can.  Example:

I was in Yellowstone with my family and did Uncle Tom's trail down to a viewing platform for a waterfall. The trail has three hundred or so stairs that my two year old walked both down and up for approximately 1000 feet of elevation drop/raise. We ran into a trio of fit young men wondering whether it would be too strenuous. I won't say we set any speed records, but we all made it just fine. The two year old proceeded to run uphill for the last quarter mile back to the trail head (...and then passed out in the carseat, mission accomplished).

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« Reply #75 on: November 17, 2015, 09:26:47 AM »
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« Reply #76 on: November 17, 2015, 09:41:08 AM »
My wife and I walk 3 miles every morning and average 20 minute miles without even trying. You are getting daily exercise into your daily routine. Good work.

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« Reply #77 on: November 17, 2015, 10:22:21 AM »
We were out with our 2.5 year old twins out for a walk around our neighborhood, when we met some of our new neighbors (we just moved to the area). When we explained where we lived, one replied 'Oh, you're out on a long walk, then.'

The entire loop is about 1.5 miles. My kids ran most of it.
It is crazy to me that adults will whine about walking a mile and then assume that the kids can walk even shorter distances than they can.  Example:

I was in Yellowstone with my family and did Uncle Tom's trail down to a viewing platform for a waterfall. The trail has three hundred or so stairs that my two year old walked both down and up for approximately 1000 feet of elevation drop/raise. We ran into a trio of fit young men wondering whether it would be too strenuous. I won't say we set any speed records, but we all made it just fine. The two year old proceeded to run uphill for the last quarter mile back to the trail head (...and then passed out in the carseat, mission accomplished).
I don't know it can happen. We were camping in Hanging rock, and decided to walk to where the scenic trails were from our tenting spot, especially as it included a scenic walk around a lake. So we did that and took in some scenic trails that were a lot of climbing. Our youngest hit a wall going back (she was 7), so me and hubby had to take took turns piggybacking her until she was willing to walk again. So it IS possible to tire out a little one especially if they are running around for the first hour.

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« Reply #78 on: November 17, 2015, 10:28:13 AM »
We were out with our 2.5 year old twins out for a walk around our neighborhood, when we met some of our new neighbors (we just moved to the area). When we explained where we lived, one replied 'Oh, you're out on a long walk, then.'

The entire loop is about 1.5 miles. My kids ran most of it.
It is crazy to me that adults will whine about walking a mile and then assume that the kids can walk even shorter distances than they can.  Example:

I was in Yellowstone with my family and did Uncle Tom's trail down to a viewing platform for a waterfall. The trail has three hundred or so stairs that my two year old walked both down and up for approximately 1000 feet of elevation drop/raise. We ran into a trio of fit young men wondering whether it would be too strenuous. I won't say we set any speed records, but we all made it just fine. The two year old proceeded to run uphill for the last quarter mile back to the trail head (...and then passed out in the carseat, mission accomplished).
I don't know it can happen. We were camping in Hanging rock, and decided to walk to where the scenic trails were from our tenting spot, especially as it included a scenic walk around a lake. So we did that and took in some scenic trails that were a lot of climbing. Our youngest hit a wall going back (she was 7), so me and hubby had to take took turns piggybacking her until she was willing to walk again. So it IS possible to tire out a little one especially if they are running around for the first hour.

To be honest, I was sure I would be carrying the kids back up the hill and was pleasantly surprised that I didn't.  Sometimes my kid will refuse to walk the last half block home after a short walk. I know it happens, it is just astounding to me that people assume that a mile is too far to walk and certainly too far for a two year old.

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« Reply #79 on: November 17, 2015, 04:06:31 PM »
We were out with our 2.5 year old twins out for a walk around our neighborhood, when we met some of our new neighbors (we just moved to the area). When we explained where we lived, one replied 'Oh, you're out on a long walk, then.'

The entire loop is about 1.5 miles. My kids ran most of it.
It is crazy to me that adults will whine about walking a mile and then assume that the kids can walk even shorter distances than they can.  Example:

I was in Yellowstone with my family and did Uncle Tom's trail down to a viewing platform for a waterfall. The trail has three hundred or so stairs that my two year old walked both down and up for approximately 1000 feet of elevation drop/raise. We ran into a trio of fit young men wondering whether it would be too strenuous. I won't say we set any speed records, but we all made it just fine. The two year old proceeded to run uphill for the last quarter mile back to the trail head (...and then passed out in the carseat, mission accomplished).
I don't know it can happen. We were camping in Hanging rock, and decided to walk to where the scenic trails were from our tenting spot, especially as it included a scenic walk around a lake. So we did that and took in some scenic trails that were a lot of climbing. Our youngest hit a wall going back (she was 7), so me and hubby had to take took turns piggybacking her until she was willing to walk again. So it IS possible to tire out a little one especially if they are running around for the first hour.

To be honest, I was sure I would be carrying the kids back up the hill and was pleasantly surprised that I didn't.  Sometimes my kid will refuse to walk the last half block home after a short walk. I know it happens, it is just astounding to me that people assume that a mile is too far to walk and certainly too far for a two year old.
A lot of this is mental.  My boys are 9 and 3.  At any age, they will complain if it's not their idea.  "I'm too TIRED to walk" from the big boy when he was 7.  But somehow, if you say "I'm going to race you to that tree", he's happy to run.

Or if we are with his friends, like walking to the park or to the school, he's fine.

Same with the three year old, though he's catching on to our tricks a little faster.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #80 on: November 18, 2015, 07:39:10 AM »
We were out with our 2.5 year old twins out for a walk around our neighborhood, when we met some of our new neighbors (we just moved to the area). When we explained where we lived, one replied 'Oh, you're out on a long walk, then.'

The entire loop is about 1.5 miles. My kids ran most of it.
It is crazy to me that adults will whine about walking a mile and then assume that the kids can walk even shorter distances than they can.  Example:

I was in Yellowstone with my family and did Uncle Tom's trail down to a viewing platform for a waterfall. The trail has three hundred or so stairs that my two year old walked both down and up for approximately 1000 feet of elevation drop/raise. We ran into a trio of fit young men wondering whether it would be too strenuous. I won't say we set any speed records, but we all made it just fine. The two year old proceeded to run uphill for the last quarter mile back to the trail head (...and then passed out in the carseat, mission accomplished).
I don't know it can happen. We were camping in Hanging rock, and decided to walk to where the scenic trails were from our tenting spot, especially as it included a scenic walk around a lake. So we did that and took in some scenic trails that were a lot of climbing. Our youngest hit a wall going back (she was 7), so me and hubby had to take took turns piggybacking her until she was willing to walk again. So it IS possible to tire out a little one especially if they are running around for the first hour.

To be honest, I was sure I would be carrying the kids back up the hill and was pleasantly surprised that I didn't.  Sometimes my kid will refuse to walk the last half block home after a short walk. I know it happens, it is just astounding to me that people assume that a mile is too far to walk and certainly too far for a two year old.
A lot of this is mental.  My boys are 9 and 3.  At any age, they will complain if it's not their idea.  "I'm too TIRED to walk" from the big boy when he was 7.  But somehow, if you say "I'm going to race you to that tree", he's happy to run.

Or if we are with his friends, like walking to the park or to the school, he's fine.

Same with the three year old, though he's catching on to our tricks a little faster.

Did you ever notice that kids are quieter, more obedient, in a better mood, and more willing to learn things and do things if they're also being regularly exhausted? When I was doing nanny work to put myself through school, I'd take kids on long walks or bike rides to wear them out. Once they were tired, they stopped being cheeky, and eventually they just didn't even start. Right now I've got a teenager who cops a bit of an attitude when she's not getting a workout.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #81 on: November 18, 2015, 09:38:26 AM »
We were out with our 2.5 year old twins out for a walk around our neighborhood, when we met some of our new neighbors (we just moved to the area). When we explained where we lived, one replied 'Oh, you're out on a long walk, then.'

The entire loop is about 1.5 miles. My kids ran most of it.
It is crazy to me that adults will whine about walking a mile and then assume that the kids can walk even shorter distances than they can.  Example:

I was in Yellowstone with my family and did Uncle Tom's trail down to a viewing platform for a waterfall. The trail has three hundred or so stairs that my two year old walked both down and up for approximately 1000 feet of elevation drop/raise. We ran into a trio of fit young men wondering whether it would be too strenuous. I won't say we set any speed records, but we all made it just fine. The two year old proceeded to run uphill for the last quarter mile back to the trail head (...and then passed out in the carseat, mission accomplished).
I don't know it can happen. We were camping in Hanging rock, and decided to walk to where the scenic trails were from our tenting spot, especially as it included a scenic walk around a lake. So we did that and took in some scenic trails that were a lot of climbing. Our youngest hit a wall going back (she was 7), so me and hubby had to take took turns piggybacking her until she was willing to walk again. So it IS possible to tire out a little one especially if they are running around for the first hour.

To be honest, I was sure I would be carrying the kids back up the hill and was pleasantly surprised that I didn't.  Sometimes my kid will refuse to walk the last half block home after a short walk. I know it happens, it is just astounding to me that people assume that a mile is too far to walk and certainly too far for a two year old.
A lot of this is mental.  My boys are 9 and 3.  At any age, they will complain if it's not their idea.  "I'm too TIRED to walk" from the big boy when he was 7.  But somehow, if you say "I'm going to race you to that tree", he's happy to run.

Or if we are with his friends, like walking to the park or to the school, he's fine.

Same with the three year old, though he's catching on to our tricks a little faster.

Did you ever notice that kids are quieter, more obedient, in a better mood, and more willing to learn things and do things if they're also being regularly exhausted? When I was doing nanny work to put myself through school, I'd take kids on long walks or bike rides to wear them out. Once they were tired, they stopped being cheeky, and eventually they just didn't even start. Right now I've got a teenager who cops a bit of an attitude when she's not getting a workout.
Yep, on the days we take them to the pool, the park, the beach, or baseball, or whatever...it's GLORIOUS

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #82 on: November 18, 2015, 11:22:02 AM »
We were out with our 2.5 year old twins out for a walk around our neighborhood, when we met some of our new neighbors (we just moved to the area). When we explained where we lived, one replied 'Oh, you're out on a long walk, then.'

The entire loop is about 1.5 miles. My kids ran most of it.
It is crazy to me that adults will whine about walking a mile and then assume that the kids can walk even shorter distances than they can.  Example:

I was in Yellowstone with my family and did Uncle Tom's trail down to a viewing platform for a waterfall. The trail has three hundred or so stairs that my two year old walked both down and up for approximately 1000 feet of elevation drop/raise. We ran into a trio of fit young men wondering whether it would be too strenuous. I won't say we set any speed records, but we all made it just fine. The two year old proceeded to run uphill for the last quarter mile back to the trail head (...and then passed out in the carseat, mission accomplished).
I don't know it can happen. We were camping in Hanging rock, and decided to walk to where the scenic trails were from our tenting spot, especially as it included a scenic walk around a lake. So we did that and took in some scenic trails that were a lot of climbing. Our youngest hit a wall going back (she was 7), so me and hubby had to take took turns piggybacking her until she was willing to walk again. So it IS possible to tire out a little one especially if they are running around for the first hour.

To be honest, I was sure I would be carrying the kids back up the hill and was pleasantly surprised that I didn't.  Sometimes my kid will refuse to walk the last half block home after a short walk. I know it happens, it is just astounding to me that people assume that a mile is too far to walk and certainly too far for a two year old.
A lot of this is mental.  My boys are 9 and 3.  At any age, they will complain if it's not their idea.  "I'm too TIRED to walk" from the big boy when he was 7.  But somehow, if you say "I'm going to race you to that tree", he's happy to run.

Or if we are with his friends, like walking to the park or to the school, he's fine.

Same with the three year old, though he's catching on to our tricks a little faster.

Did you ever notice that kids are quieter, more obedient, in a better mood, and more willing to learn things and do things if they're also being regularly exhausted? When I was doing nanny work to put myself through school, I'd take kids on long walks or bike rides to wear them out. Once they were tired, they stopped being cheeky, and eventually they just didn't even start. Right now I've got a teenager who cops a bit of an attitude when she's not getting a workout.
Yep, on the days we take them to the pool, the park, the beach, or baseball, or whatever...it's GLORIOUS

Just like dogs :)

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« Reply #83 on: November 18, 2015, 12:56:02 PM »
How many of these friends also pay for a gym membership?  It is pretty funny to see people on a nice sunny day, driving to the gym to work out.

Coworkers are horrified that once a week I walk close to 3 miles after work--to the grocery store and then home with a heavy backpack of groceries.  I live across the street from the gym and often see them park outside and go in after work.   The gym is a 12-minute walk from the workplace.  (Wish I was joking.) So, I'm crazy for walking 3 miles to get food but they drive somewhere close by, pay money, and then walk on a treadmill to nowhere in order to work off food they ate and paid for?  There's insanity in there someplace.  It's like filling up your car, driving it to a garage, and then paying a mechanic to put it on a hoist so it can spin its wheels just to use up the gasoline. 

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #84 on: November 18, 2015, 02:43:59 PM »
We were out with our 2.5 year old twins out for a walk around our neighborhood, when we met some of our new neighbors (we just moved to the area). When we explained where we lived, one replied 'Oh, you're out on a long walk, then.'

The entire loop is about 1.5 miles. My kids ran most of it.
It is crazy to me that adults will whine about walking a mile and then assume that the kids can walk even shorter distances than they can.  Example:

I was in Yellowstone with my family and did Uncle Tom's trail down to a viewing platform for a waterfall. The trail has three hundred or so stairs that my two year old walked both down and up for approximately 1000 feet of elevation drop/raise. We ran into a trio of fit young men wondering whether it would be too strenuous. I won't say we set any speed records, but we all made it just fine. The two year old proceeded to run uphill for the last quarter mile back to the trail head (...and then passed out in the carseat, mission accomplished).
I don't know it can happen. We were camping in Hanging rock, and decided to walk to where the scenic trails were from our tenting spot, especially as it included a scenic walk around a lake. So we did that and took in some scenic trails that were a lot of climbing. Our youngest hit a wall going back (she was 7), so me and hubby had to take took turns piggybacking her until she was willing to walk again. So it IS possible to tire out a little one especially if they are running around for the first hour.

To be honest, I was sure I would be carrying the kids back up the hill and was pleasantly surprised that I didn't.  Sometimes my kid will refuse to walk the last half block home after a short walk. I know it happens, it is just astounding to me that people assume that a mile is too far to walk and certainly too far for a two year old.
A lot of this is mental.  My boys are 9 and 3.  At any age, they will complain if it's not their idea.  "I'm too TIRED to walk" from the big boy when he was 7.  But somehow, if you say "I'm going to race you to that tree", he's happy to run.

Or if we are with his friends, like walking to the park or to the school, he's fine.

Same with the three year old, though he's catching on to our tricks a little faster.

Did you ever notice that kids are quieter, more obedient, in a better mood, and more willing to learn things and do things if they're also being regularly exhausted? When I was doing nanny work to put myself through school, I'd take kids on long walks or bike rides to wear them out. Once they were tired, they stopped being cheeky, and eventually they just didn't even start. Right now I've got a teenager who cops a bit of an attitude when she's not getting a workout.
Yep, on the days we take them to the pool, the park, the beach, or baseball, or whatever...it's GLORIOUS
This is SO true esp with my youngest. She used to take karate but then her sensei (sp?) retired. We really need to get her into something else. Reminds me of running dogs to improve their behavior and obedience : )

I thought this was interesting. Maybe works for adults too?
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/exercise-seems-to-be-beneficial-to-children/380844/
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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #85 on: November 18, 2015, 05:04:31 PM »
I'm going to have to call BS on this claim.  Not that it's not cold or that your not Canadian, but that there is such a thing as "too cold to really walk places".  I was in an extreme cold weather unit when I was in the USMC, so I learned some tricks & own some gear most people wouldn't know about; but I've also put those tricks into practice.  I commuted by bike for over three years straight, 8.5 miles each direction.  I also worked the second shift, so my commute home was always after dark.  There were some pretty chilly winter rides home, without the benefit of direct sun.  One in particular was right after a major ice storm in the area, when the air temps got below -10 F.  It was so cold, that the grease in my wheel bearings was starting to gel, and made the ride even more work than normal.  I would not voluntarily do that again, but I did do it, and without losing any fingers or toes; so I can attest that it's possible to dress for the weather.  And with practice & patience, riding a bike on ice isn't as dangerous as it would seem, either.  It was easier to stay upright on the bike moving with caution than walking.

Perhaps it is a discussion more appropriate for another thread, but I am curious to know more about this gear and these tricks.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #86 on: November 18, 2015, 08:06:22 PM »
We just moved to Boston and in order to stay within our housing budget we're living 1.1 miles from the train station and bar area. Though I'd rather be a bit closer in, when we rented this place I considered that totally walkable. On Friday night we met up with a few friends for drinks and they asked us if we drove. 1.1 miles on a clear, warm, Fall evening. They were shocked and appalled that we walked. Everyone else we've talked to has expressed disappointment in how far out we are from the T, like we're living in Siberia. Doesn't anybody in this town walk anywhere?
Did they try to give you a ride home? I don't know why, but I'm often profoundly irritated when people try to drive me places I'm looking forward to walking or biking.

My whole week is full of the same madness.

I'm traveling for work and accidentally froze all my food... lol... so I walked 3mi RT for tacos (still banked 90% of my per diem) through quiet suburban neighborhoods with beautiful houses. I saw two people the entire time.

Yesterday, in between lifting and a free yoga class, I stepped out of the gym into crisp upper-50s air for a half-hour run that took me along the crest of a hill during a beautiful sunset. Once again, nobody in sight. Meanwhile, masses of people were crowding the indoor running track that they drove there for the privilege of using. Because the heat was set for the typical arctic blast conditions here, it was uncomfortably warm inside even with the doors all open, compared to the perfect outside air. Why the fuck doesn't anyone get out and live in the world around them? *shakes head*

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #87 on: November 18, 2015, 10:22:54 PM »
I need to keep reading this thread.

I am definitely going to walk to or from work a few times per week... In the springtime.

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« Reply #88 on: November 18, 2015, 11:00:56 PM »
I'm going to have to call BS on this claim.  Not that it's not cold or that your not Canadian, but that there is such a thing as "too cold to really walk places".  I was in an extreme cold weather unit when I was in the USMC, so I learned some tricks & own some gear most people wouldn't know about; but I've also put those tricks into practice.  I commuted by bike for over three years straight, 8.5 miles each direction.  I also worked the second shift, so my commute home was always after dark.  There were some pretty chilly winter rides home, without the benefit of direct sun.  One in particular was right after a major ice storm in the area, when the air temps got below -10 F.  It was so cold, that the grease in my wheel bearings was starting to gel, and made the ride even more work than normal.  I would not voluntarily do that again, but I did do it, and without losing any fingers or toes; so I can attest that it's possible to dress for the weather.  And with practice & patience, riding a bike on ice isn't as dangerous as it would seem, either.  It was easier to stay upright on the bike moving with caution than walking.

Perhaps it is a discussion more appropriate for another thread, but I am curious to know more about this gear and these tricks.

I did share some of them further down the thread.  Keep reading.

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« Reply #89 on: November 19, 2015, 10:58:01 AM »
We just moved to Boston and in order to stay within our housing budget we're living 1.1 miles from the train station and bar area. Though I'd rather be a bit closer in, when we rented this place I considered that totally walkable. On Friday night we met up with a few friends for drinks and they asked us if we drove. 1.1 miles on a clear, warm, Fall evening. They were shocked and appalled that we walked. Everyone else we've talked to has expressed disappointment in how far out we are from the T, like we're living in Siberia. Doesn't anybody in this town walk anywhere?
Did they try to give you a ride home? I don't know why, but I'm often profoundly irritated when people try to drive me places I'm looking forward to walking or biking.

My whole week is full of the same madness.

I'm traveling for work and accidentally froze all my food... lol... so I walked 3mi RT for tacos (still banked 90% of my per diem) through quiet suburban neighborhoods with beautiful houses. I saw two people the entire time.

Yesterday, in between lifting and a free yoga class, I stepped out of the gym into crisp upper-50s air for a half-hour run that took me along the crest of a hill during a beautiful sunset. Once again, nobody in sight. Meanwhile, masses of people were crowding the indoor running track that they drove there for the privilege of using. Because the heat was set for the typical arctic blast conditions here, it was uncomfortably warm inside even with the doors all open, compared to the perfect outside air. Why the fuck doesn't anyone get out and live in the world around them? *shakes head*

So my husband works in a building next door to me.  I've been walking with him ~mile several times per week on breaks.  He invites his coworkers, but if it's 78* they say "oh it's too hot".  The second it drops into the 60's "oh it's too cold."  He goes every day unless it's sleeting sideways or so hot that he'll be unacceptably drenched in sweat when he gets back to the office.  Coincidentally, his coworkers mostly can't walk a brisk mile without wheezing.

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« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2015, 01:36:13 PM »
Just read the rest of the stuff here about weather.  It's regularly -30 here (which is pretty much the same in C or F) and I will still walk to the grocery store and home.  Unless it's blowing snow.  That stuff melts on your skin, the wind hits it, and it can be "game over face".  If I brought my backpack to work expecting to do a grocery run after and the weather turned to that, I'd have a little tantrum about it and then just go home resolving to do it the next day instead.  This was one of the coldest winters ever but there still wasn't  a single week where I couldn't get a grocery run in at all.

Saying you can't walk/bike because it's too cold is like saying you can't because it rains.  The weather switches up every day or two, right?  ....Unless you live in Greenland or Antarctica or something.  In that case I would probably not get my hopes up for a decent day.

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« Reply #91 on: November 20, 2015, 06:26:12 AM »
Saying you can't walk/bike because it's too cold is like saying you can't because it rains.  The weather switches up every day or two, right?  ....Unless you live in Greenland or Antarctica or something.  In that case I would probably not get my hopes up for a decent day.

Yeah, and there are even cyclists racking up the miles in Antarctica:

http://www.bicycling.com/rides/news/cyclist-ride-across-antarctica-south-pole

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« Reply #92 on: November 20, 2015, 12:23:54 PM »
Saying you can't walk/bike because it's too cold is like saying you can't because it rains.  The weather switches up every day or two, right?  ....Unless you live in Greenland or Antarctica or something.  In that case I would probably not get my hopes up for a decent day.

Yeah, and there are even cyclists racking up the miles in Antarctica:

http://www.bicycling.com/rides/news/cyclist-ride-across-antarctica-south-pole

Wow, that's hardcore!  And that has to be some specialized bike.  The bearings have to be specially made to take such cold without increased drag; and it's obvious that the tires are extra large and treaded for snow.  I wonder what gas she pressurizes the tires with, because it seems that normal air would contract too much from just cold to really cold.

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« Reply #93 on: November 20, 2015, 12:40:14 PM »
I met this guy last January while biking on frozen Great Slave Lake a mile out of Yellowknife, on a bright and cold, -43 day. I'm not usually impressed especially by city folks coming up here on Arctic "expeditions" with their expensive gear and support teams, but this guy, biking alone with his relatively low-quality bike and equipment, really impressed me.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/japanese-cyclist-braves-winter-ride-to-n-w-t-s-mackenzie-valley-1.2945053

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #94 on: November 20, 2015, 01:59:39 PM »
What is it with the aversion to walking?  My husband's friends get pissed at him for not taking the closest parking spot when they go somewhere.  Even when I was fat and out of shape I got a reputation of some sort as a walker.  One day I had a couple of my coworkers interns helping me in the field.  We took a couple leisurely strolls through the woods on a cool, drizzly day to look at specific streams.  Maybe hiked 1.5 miles total all day?  Keep in mind these were college guys trying to get into outdoorsy careers.  Coworker told me a few days later that his interns didn't want to help me with field work again "because she will walk you to DEATH.". And I'm sure these guys fancy themselves hunters and mountain men too.  Hahahahahaha.

Bunch if weaklings those two. I hike 16 miles with high elevation and a heavy pack, 50 lbs. Did 14 miles in the rain like that once. Even with my office job.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #95 on: November 20, 2015, 03:08:36 PM »
Yeah, and there are even cyclists racking up the miles in Antarctica:

http://www.bicycling.com/rides/news/cyclist-ride-across-antarctica-south-pole

Wow, that's hardcore!  And that has to be some specialized bike.

It's probably a Pugsley: http://surlybikes.com/bikes/pugsley

I have a friend who used one to race the Iditarod in Alaska: http://iditarodtrailinvitational.com/

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #96 on: November 20, 2015, 03:21:39 PM »
There was a brief period in my career when I happened to work about 0.5 miles from where I lived. I owned a $400, somewhat Mustachian beater car (this was when I was stationed in Korea and we handed off/sold old cars to each other as we rotated in and out... mine was about 15 years old, the bumper held on by duct tape, and you never had to change the oil, just add more oil periodically as it slowly burned it away). Parking was always at a premium on the base where I lived/worked. One day I got in my car and started driving to my work 0.5 miles away. Upon getting there, I found ALL the parking spots full. I began working my way back toward my dorm building, looking for an open spot. By the time I got there, my original parking spot had been taken, and I ended up parking FARTHER AWAY from work than I had originally started. I then shut the car down and walked. I walked or biked to work the rest of my tour after that, even in the frigid Korean winters.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #97 on: November 20, 2015, 04:58:40 PM »
Whenever I walk past a school that is about to start or end for the day, I can't help but shake my head at the block-long line of cars waiting to drop their kids off right at the front door of the school. Even supposing that all of these kids live so far away from school that it really is impractical to walk (which I doubt!), it would be so much faster for the parents and the kids alike if the parent dropped the kid off at a street corner two blocks from school instead of waiting in that long line of idling cars.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #98 on: November 21, 2015, 10:54:57 PM »

Some tips:
Don't wear tons of extra socks. Instead cut yourself some boot insoles from closed cell foam. Then put sheepskin insoles on top. Sorels and other pac boots made of rubber do not keep your feet warm. If you are hanging out at the bus stop bring a square of closed cell foam to stand/sit on. Mittens are warmer than gloves (duh). Tuck a small dog inside your jacket. Insulated skirts for all genders. Use a vapor barrier liner for extreme cold and/or exercise outdoors in winter. Don't touch metal things.

Do wear liberal amounts of moisturizer on your face/exposed areas to guard against windburn.
Do wear a silk scarf across your nose and mouth to slow the air so you're not breathing ice.
Do wear a coat large enough for trapped air pockets to be your insulation.
Do wear a hat.

Thankful to now live more southerly.

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Re: 1.1 miles is too far to walk
« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2015, 12:20:28 AM »
It's probably a Pugsley: http://surlybikes.com/bikes/pugsley

I have a friend who used one to race the Iditarod in Alaska: http://iditarodtrailinvitational.com/

Love me some Surly! Disc Trucker and Big Dummy are on my fantasy bike list.