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Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« on: July 25, 2022, 01:55:13 PM »
I was thinking about this today.  I squandered a modest inheritance when I was in college.  To be fair, I'm was struggling immensely with anxiety and I didn't realize it at the time, so I'm not entirely sure I was capable of doing much better.  Some was also stolen by a pretty horrific Ex. But still, it was money I wasted.  IIRC, it was about $50k in today's dollars.  Not earth shattering, but if I'd invested most of that a few decades ago, it would be a lot of money. 

It's kind of nice to look back and see that and realize that while I wish I could have it back, I could make a big mistake and still be perfectly fine. 

What's yours? 

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2022, 02:34:48 PM »
Overspending.  Wanting things that I didn’t need, and feeling that I needed to have them anyways.  Luckily I always valued putting some money into retirement/savings, but when I look at the amount of money I used to spend on going out to dinner and shopping, I can’t believe it.

The mistake I made was fundamentally that things could make me happy, or prove that I was important.  The more you keep trying to do that, the more you realize it doesn’t work.  Also, all the little things add up.  Changing that mindset is huge.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2022, 02:51:41 PM »
Paid off our house in 2016. By the time I corrected that we were $50K behind and compounding - cannot get that period of investment returns back, but I was able to largely stop additional bleeding with a cash-out refi in late 2019.

Well there's that and "gambling problem since I was 18", but putting a number to that is damn near impossible. Must continue not gambling, or at least minimizing damage if I do. Really "don't gamble" is the correct answer for me.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2022, 02:55:41 PM »
Ugh, no single big mistake here, but my early 20s were such a waste. I made decent money for a 22 year old when I got out of college, but fuuuck, I spent it all on a series of stupid things.

I needed that dumb period though I think. I wouldn’t listen to anyone telling me that I was spending my money on stupid stuff (BMW that costs half of annual salary? SOUNDS LIKE A BARGAIN!) so I needed to feel the burn for myself.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2022, 03:06:04 PM »
Not starting to put money into index funds when I was in my early-mid twenties. I was in grad school and making a pittance, but I still could have scraped together some money and done it, if I had put my mind to it. Problem was, back then I didn’t know anyone who was doing it (early 90s) amd it was the early days of the internet, so I didn’t really have a road map to do it. Oh, well.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2022, 03:07:19 PM »
Lost $4,000 when I was 18 gambling. I thought it was tragic at the time, never did that again and learned I should probably save money instead of throw it away.
Well until we bought an RV two years ago, but am a lot richer now

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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2022, 03:07:44 PM »
I got to see a prototype of the Kindle before it was released back when I was in college around 2007. Amazon at that time was trading for about $75 ($3.75 at todays' post 20:1 split) and I thought that was going to be a big deal and thought hard about buying a bunch of stock. I had signed an NDA so I decided to wait until after it was released in late 2007/ In the next few months the stock barely moved so I thought it was probably smart I hadn't gone ahead. If I had sold some of my financial stocks that tanked 80-90% the next year and bought say $5k of Amazon instead (I had about $10k in mostly financial stock at the time) it would be about 1,300 shares today worth $160k +/-.

However, I ended up selling pretty much my entire taxable portfolio in the next few years after college trying to make ends meet with my first job paying a whopping $13/hour and a wife and child to support. So, the reality is I probably would not be sitting on $160k in Amazon stock today even if I had been a bit smarter in college.


I also invested about $3k each in two small businesses in college (National Guard was paying for college and I had money saved up from a deployment during my sophomore year) and ultimately lost all but $100 or so. One was a local sports nutrition shop, but the owner decided to branch out into making a supplement and took on way too much overhead that ultimately bankrupted it. I.e. renting a whole office suite at $1,000+ per month to basically use one room to package the product every few weeks. The other was a sports drink similar to Gatorade that my roommate who was getting his Master's in food science created. That one had a better chance but ultimately just couldn't get the sales and he was running it part-time while still finishing school and then later working a real job.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2022, 03:29:56 PM »
Spending over a quarter million on a degree that I quickly became too disabled to use.

Not so much a mistake as a misfortune. Otherwise, n'ah, I've always been pretty money savvy.

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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2022, 04:25:29 PM »
I don't know if it was the worst, but its the one I remember. Sometime in the mid 90's...yes I'm that damn old, there was US budget crisis or some other thing that caused the market to decline sharply. Of course this got all the news channels predicting "A looming crisis in the market!" so that fed on itself and the market dropped more. I thought it would be a smart idea to sell everything and get out of the market because all the predictions. So I sold near the bottom. Yep, three months later when I thought it was safe to get back in, the market was hitting new highs. 

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2022, 04:31:10 PM »
Spending over a quarter million on a degree that I quickly became too disabled to use.

Not so much a mistake as a misfortune. Otherwise, n'ah, I've always been pretty money savvy.

 Oh, sorry it worked out that way, a little scary for me, I spent a little more than that getting my daughter through dental school, she's been *practicing for about 5 weeks now. Lucky kid, no student loans.


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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2022, 04:33:43 PM »
I did sell QQQ after taking a big hit on it around 2000, now idea when I got it reinvested. I wrote of the loss $3,000 a year for 20 years and finished the write off when I sold a long term gain.

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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2022, 04:34:29 PM »
Oh boy i could write a book

1. Bought expensive vehicles that i didnt need then traded up with negative equity for a second one
2. cashed out a 401k in my late 20s
3. bought/have single stocks after knowing that its dumb
4. bought/have crypto
5. overspend constantly

I think 5 is the biggest one now

DW had a way to conservative AA during the last decade and didnt check it and likely lost out on huge market gains, we checked it together a few years ago and i about fainted. i think she was 50% bonds for the from 2010 to 2018

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2022, 04:59:40 PM »
Spending over a quarter million on a degree that I quickly became too disabled to use.

Not so much a mistake as a misfortune. Otherwise, n'ah, I've always been pretty money savvy.

 Oh, sorry it worked out that way, a little scary for me, I spent a little more than that getting my daughter through dental school, she's been *practicing for about 5 weeks now. Lucky kid, no student loans.

Tell her to start PT now, disability is very common among dentists and her disability policy likely isn't worth nearly what she thinks it is.

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2022, 05:17:24 PM »
Bought sports cars in my early 30’s

Two corvettes. 

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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2022, 05:31:55 PM »
I've basically always been penny wise and pound foolish. Got a degree with no debt, but had zero idea how to make a living with it. Kept a healthy emergency fund but didn't invest. Saved for retirement, in CDs. Supported a (now-ex) spouse's career but didn't develop my own.

I'm trying to just pretend I'm 20 now instead of 40, and make better decisions this time. "Early" retirement is unlikely now, but if I play my cards right, at least I'll be able to retire.

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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2022, 05:33:40 PM »
Didn't understand that deferment on student loans meant interest still accrues. Those private student loans with high interest rates really snowballed while I was in school. I am much more savvy now, but I wish I'd had some guidance when signing my financial life away as a teenager / young adult.

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2022, 06:01:31 PM »
Bought a house I couldn't really afford with an ARM in early 2008. Had to stop all my voluntary retirement contributions to make the house payments and pay bills.

Thankfully I was able to white-knuckle it through seven years (!) of being underwater on my loan (using Zillow for value estimates), and now the house is worth about 80% more than I paid for it (again using the Zestimate).

Things turned out okay, sort of, but all those years of PMI down the drain, and all the growth on the money I could have been cramming into index funds... I haven't tried to estimate my net worth difference if I hadn't bought the house, but I think it's likely to be substantial.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2022, 10:54:09 PM »
Married a spendthrift. The relationship lasted for 20 years; no real way to quantify how much I could have retained either living on my own or with a spouse who was on the same financial page. Probably in the 6 figures, I bet.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2022, 12:27:52 AM »
Bought a house I couldn't really afford with an ARM in early 2008. Had to stop all my voluntary retirement contributions to make the house payments and pay bills.

Thankfully I was able to white-knuckle it through seven years (!) of being underwater on my loan (using Zillow for value estimates), and now the house is worth about 80% more than I paid for it (again using the Zestimate).

Things turned out okay, sort of, but all those years of PMI down the drain, and all the growth on the money I could have been cramming into index funds... I haven't tried to estimate my net worth difference if I hadn't bought the house, but I think it's likely to be substantial.
You lived in it, didn't you? You had to live somewhere. Factoring in rent costs would probably make the numbers look better. Kudos to you for hanging in there until the market recovered.

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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2022, 12:31:04 AM »
Not sure what qualifies as a "mistake" (I've sure made obviously bad decisions in hindsight, but most haven't added up to much I don't think, except for those that come from money we are all lucky enough to be young and dumb before we have much to lose, though the cost of education and ease of  borrowing for that I guess has changed that somewhat), but final balance-wise it was the choice of VT (international) over VTI (US) type picks for my equity portfolio over the years.  It has cost me like half-million in returns.
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2022, 12:48:46 AM »
Think I know what stock market is doing and didn’t go aggressive enough with asset allocation

Not buying a house (same story, different market)

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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2022, 02:02:16 AM »
I spent my first few semesters of college at a private Christian university. $18k in the red, even with good scholarships. Lived on campus, forced to have a meal plan, the whole deal. I guess I have a few good memories from those semesters, and I learned some things about life I wouldn't have learned otherwise, but I'm not sure these things were worth the price I paid. Education was mediocre at best. I transferred to a community college, and consider that transfer to be one of the best financial decisions of my life. The story is quite rantable.

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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2022, 04:35:19 AM »
I spent my first few semesters of college at a private Christian university. $18k in the red, even with good scholarships. Lived on campus, forced to have a meal plan, the whole deal. I guess I have a few good memories from those semesters, and I learned some things about life I wouldn't have learned otherwise, but I'm not sure these things were worth the price I paid. Education was mediocre at best. I transferred to a community college, and consider that transfer to be one of the best financial decisions of my life. The story is quite rantable.

Man, I would call this a massive financial success. Instead of just staying out, you made the bold decision to change schools.

That's not a mistake, that's a win. For someone so young to be that insightful and decisive about the relative value of tuitions and schools is quite impressive. Most kids can't even wrap their minds around what debt actually means, much less put a concrete financial value on the education they're receiving.

Well done.

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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2022, 05:58:11 AM »
In my mid 20s, I bought a condo in 2005 because I had finally saved up my 20% down payment for a place I wanted to actually live in.
Little did I know, I was competing against flippers who were getting no-doc NINJA 125% LTV loans.

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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2022, 06:00:34 AM »
My wife has never been good with money, by her own admission. It's not a problem of spending, she is generally thrifty and mostly frugal - it's a syntax issue. Her parents never, ever, ever taught her or her siblings how to earn, save, and spend money beyond what you would typically learn at a public high school.

When we were engaged, she deferred to me for major financial decisions (and generally for the largest still cedes the ultimate decision to me, despite my best efforts to empower her to do so). She had a modest trust left to her by her great grandparents. Ultimately her parents buggered half of it (by sending her to an expensive school and not telling her about the trust until 21, paying for said school without financial assistance from said trust, and then borderline told her to drop out of said school because of middling grades), but then I messed up the rest of it by:

-Encouraging her to buy a new car in full instead of a used car with a reasonable interest rate
-Not saying 'no' to paying off miscellaneous shared debts, also with modest interest rates
-Not investing the rest in index funds (I was just introduced to MMM by this point)

Her trust was earning a paltry ~3% return. Much of it was in bonds with the largest portion being municipal bonds. The rest was in (as of 2014) low-return dividend stocks. Her great grandparents set it up to be hyper-conservative. Had we not spent the $25k up front on the car and other debts, we'd easily have made that much and more by now.

Technically the other 'mistake' we made was not finding a way for her to finish her degree at the local university she was attending. She had to drop out because our second son was born and we couldn't find childcare. Had she gotten that degree, she might have a career by now and we'd be earning 50% more than we currently do.

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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2022, 06:23:27 AM »
I'm tempted to subject you all to one my usual diatribes against cars, because man- not only did I spend a crap ton of money on them, I sort of organized my life around them. 

Sometimes I think about where I'd be if somebody had just introduced me to bikes sooner. 

But would I even be where I am?  A big part of my motivation for completing college and getting my career going was just to spend money on cars. Would I really put up with all that just to live my current dream lifestyle of homeless bum (aka bicycle tourist)? 

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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2022, 06:43:14 AM »
I spent my first few semesters of college at a private Christian university. $18k in the red, even with good scholarships. Lived on campus, forced to have a meal plan, the whole deal. I guess I have a few good memories from those semesters, and I learned some things about life I wouldn't have learned otherwise, but I'm not sure these things were worth the price I paid. Education was mediocre at best. I transferred to a community college, and consider that transfer to be one of the best financial decisions of my life. The story is quite rantable.
I very nearly attended a private Christian college when I graduated high school in the mid nineties.  I was pursuing a nursing degree and they were basically going to be 15x more expensive than community college where I could also get the degree.  I went to comm college. My super serious gf at the time insisted on going to Christian college more for the atmosphere.  She went for "child development" got a 4 year degree and mega debt.  Ended up a glorified baby sitter in a low earning job.  Not trying to trash private universities just need to know they have zero interest in your financial life. 

In the late nineties I just had to have this weird mustang car when I found it.  Got a bank "personal" loan for the car as I was overpaying for the vehicle.  I didn't even look at the interest on the loan.  I just signed it and got on with my day. Fwiw I did keep the car until a couple years ago.  When I dug out the title to sell it I found the lien release.  It had a copy of the original loan on it. the interest was 14.75%.  I was blown away by how dumb I had been at the time.   

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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2022, 06:45:14 AM »
I haven't made any major financial mistakes, although in my 20s I did get into some bad romantic relationships that caused me to spend more money because I was so stressed and I just didn't have the mental space to make financially optimal decisions.


Fortunately, none of those relationships were so bad that I got into debt, redeemed investments at a loss or torpedoed my career. Plus I learned what I was worth and what kind of behavior was unacceptable from a romantic partner. So I think I did well in the end.

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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2022, 06:58:54 AM »
Purely financial, my biggest mistake was going to private college. My parents told me to go to the school that I wanted to go to and not worry about money because we could get student loans. I picked the private school that was 2x the well known and highly respected state school. To compound that, the federal "assistance" loans were usually between 3 and 5 percent, but we had to get some private loans and ended up signing one year at 10 percent. Yuck!

I got a job right out of college in the field I wanted, and it needed my degree, but the school I went to played no part into getting the job. After the loan grace period ended, I finally saw the damage and spent most of my 20s putting every dollar possible towards paying off loans. Fortunately they are behind me now, but I estimate it cost me about $50k-$60k more to attend the private school (including the interest) and that would have been money that could have gone into investing earlier in my career. 

From a non financial point of view, it wasn't as big of a mistake. I had a really good time in college. Lots of fond memories. Met some life long friends. Biggest negative of my college experience was the cost.

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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2022, 07:18:18 AM »
Spending over a quarter million on a degree that I quickly became too disabled to use.

Not so much a mistake as a misfortune. Otherwise, n'ah, I've always been pretty money savvy.

 Oh, sorry it worked out that way, a little scary for me, I spent a little more than that getting my daughter through dental school, she's been *practicing for about 5 weeks now. Lucky kid, no student loans.

Tell her to start PT now, disability is very common among dentists and her disability policy likely isn't worth nearly what she thinks it is.
You are correct she does have a disability policy, that pays $60k, but still allows her to  work in another field. She does hit the gym on a regular basis, but she does have back issues even before she started.

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« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2022, 07:29:10 AM »
My wife has never been good with money, by her own admission. It's not a problem of spending, she is generally thrifty and mostly frugal - it's a syntax issue. Her parents never, ever, ever taught her or her siblings how to earn, save, and spend money beyond what you would typically learn at a public high school.

FWIW, my wife and myself had the same issue.  I suspect that most middle class Americans have this problem.  In my family, we just didn't talk about money, and in my wife's family, the extent of their financial advice was to tell her not to spend money.  Now that I have kids, I'm still not totally sure how I'm going to break this cycle because I didn't really get it as a kid. 

I'm tempted to subject you all to one my usual diatribes against cars, because man- not only did I spend a crap ton of money on them, I sort of organized my life around them. 

Sometimes I think about where I'd be if somebody had just introduced me to bikes sooner. 

But would I even be where I am?  A big part of my motivation for completing college and getting my career going was just to spend money on cars. Would I really put up with all that just to live my current dream lifestyle of homeless bum (aka bicycle tourist)? 

Man, bikes are NOT the answer.  You can spend a shitload on bikes too, just ask me how I know.  Especially mountain bikes, as they have essentially zero resale. 

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« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2022, 07:31:43 AM »
Not my mistake but my neighbors.

 My neighbor played it safe.

I've told the story before about my neighbor, he took all his $200k out of stocks after 9-11–2001. About four years ago we were setting at his kitchen table and he brought out his investment statement, and was wondering if things were all right. I looked it over and it was all in cash equivalents, these cash equivalents pay a little more than a bank deposit, but don’t keep up with inflation. I said, you don't have any stocks, he said yes, I look it all out of stocks after 9-11. I said you really should have some stocks! I tried to get him to just get his feet wet by investing $10,000. He wasn’t interested. I went home and calculated the gains he missed over those 18 years. His $200,000 would now be over $800,000 if he had invested in a simple Total Stock Market Fund, such as VTSAX. Then in the last 4 years his $800,000 would have grown to $1,080,000. Such a life changing missed opportunity. Playing it safe lost my neighbor Over $800,000. Yesterday he was over and I ask if he had any interest in the stock market, he said its doing terrible, I said would rather it be more expensive to buy? He had a blank stare, I said you want it to be cheap when you buy. He went on to talk about a coworker, that has $800,000, I didn’t have the heart to tell him he would have over $1M if he had stayed in the market back in 2001. At this point he is 59, so, I'm a little shy to mention the issue much, because time to recover is limited. You can lead a horse to water...

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« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2022, 07:42:42 AM »
Man, bikes are NOT the answer.  You can spend a shitload on bikes too, just ask me how I know.  Especially mountain bikes, as they have essentially zero resale.

After years of riding bikes without any issues, the last few years have been stupid expensive.  I do all my own work and the repair parts alone I'm at several dollars per mile on these things!

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« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2022, 08:02:31 AM »
Man, bikes are NOT the answer.  You can spend a shitload on bikes too, just ask me how I know.  Especially mountain bikes, as they have essentially zero resale.

I was curious, so I added it up: https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/adding-up-my-total-cost-of-car-ownership/

I could basically buy a nice mountain bike every 6 months, just throw it away, and still be money ahead. 

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« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2022, 08:53:02 AM »
Spending over a quarter million on a degree that I quickly became too disabled to use.

Not so much a mistake as a misfortune. Otherwise, n'ah, I've always been pretty money savvy.

 Oh, sorry it worked out that way, a little scary for me, I spent a little more than that getting my daughter through dental school, she's been *practicing for about 5 weeks now. Lucky kid, no student loans.

Tell her to start PT now, disability is very common among dentists and her disability policy likely isn't worth nearly what she thinks it is.
You are correct she does have a disability policy, that pays $60k, but still allows her to  work in another field. She does hit the gym on a regular basis, but she does have back issues even before she started.

Yeah, she can't depend on that policy. And "work in another field" is a very broad definition. I was told my policy would be valid even if I went on to teach or work in consulting. That's not how it played out in reality.

Plus to get that policy, she would have to understand the abuse she would have to suffer, the lengths she would have to go to, and the violations of her privacy she would have to experience.

There's a reason almost all of us with those policies settle for far, far less than they are worth. These companies are experts at making us miserable enough to do so. Ask me how I know...oh wait, you can't, they force us to sign NDAs.

With spine problems, hitting the gym without the direction of a PT could be the worst thing she could do. Again, ask me how I know.

I'm not being a fear monger here. This is the exact same information my mentors gave me, and then I had to use it, and my case went down exactly like I was warned it would. It sounded like fear mongering at the time, but it was entirely accurate.

Tell her to get to a PT, and to take it seriously. Dentistry is one of the very, very few high level careers where even a single injury can destroy your livelihood, because there aren't a lot of transferable skills or alternate careers.

FTR, I worked in a side hustle as a consultant for a high end financial firm that catered to doctors and dentists. I've advised many people in your daughter's position.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2022, 09:10:21 AM »
My biggest mistake was hiring a financial adviser when I was younger.  My boss at the time even advised me to educate myself and just invest in mutual funds.  I went to a "free" dinner seminar and signed up with an adviser who charged 1.5% of funds under management.  At first it did not seem so bad, this was the 1990's and market was hot and I didn't have a very large portfolio.  Later on, I finally did take my old bosses advice and started learning about personal finance. By that time I had a bigger portfolio, and the management fees were getting pretty big.  I began to notice that my funds under management weren't doing much better than index funds, certainly not 1.5% better. The final straw for me was the 2008 when my expensive manager told me nobody could have seen the financial crisis coming and that is why my portfolio took such a big hit. I eventually fired him, put all my money in index funds and have never been happier.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2022, 09:14:47 AM »
It really seems in this conversation that a lot of the financial mistakes are that of omission.  Not investing your cash, not following through on your earning potential, etc...  This thread has helped me to further realize this about myself.  I have some pretty severe cognitive dissonance regarding my career path.  I got an associates degree in nursing.  This allowed me to challenge the state boards to become a RN.  I took them a couple times and got close, but, I just didn't pass that darn test. 

I am a good blood and guts nurse, but, maternity always has grossed me out. That has been my weak spot to this day.  There is a local pizza chain called Salvatores.  Their tagline is "we deliver everything but babies."  I would say I'm like Salvatores to my pregnant coworkers and family.  When my wife informed early one morning that it was time for the twins to come I drove her to the hospital like my ass was on fire.

I got frustrated and just worked as a LPN for 23.5 years.  That meant I made probably on average 25k less a year for that.  Probably a nearly 600k mental loss on potential.  Probably a million or two if that had gone to VTSAX. 

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2022, 09:34:25 AM »
Getting a MBA. It has had zero impact on my earnings. I regularly tell people that I’ve learned more from YouTube and from Internet forums than I have from the curriculum of college or grad school.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2022, 09:45:15 AM »
Going to college right after high school was probably my biggest mistake. I needed to get out of West Texas, and I thought that my only two options were military or college. I was too smart for the military, so I went across the state for college. I wasn't disciplined enough to bother going to classes. Two years later, I was $20k in debt and dropping out of school to do what I probably should have done in the first place: join the military.

I was ultimately able to get out of debt and finish college debt-free, but it would have been easier if I had chosen a little more wisely at 18.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2022, 10:23:36 AM »
Marrying my first husband. While he made good money, he did not believe in saving or investing. We had lots of expensive toys, but it was like pulling teeth to get him to put anything away for retirement.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2022, 10:42:01 AM »
Ignorance on paying for college.  Parents aren't financially savvy, just always assumed it was normal to borrow the full cost of a 4 year university education starting at age 18 and that we'd/I'd "figure out a way to repay later".  This meant that I was not financially savvy at the time either.  My only money sense was that I knew it was bad to hold a balance on credit cards (like my parents did every month) and I wanted to avoid doing that.  It was all send to college even without much of a plan.  Lower middle class (early childhood)/middle class firstborn with parents who tithe on gross income (and again on their pensions and SS in retirement) and expect all their problems to be taken care of with faith and all that.

I could've gone to CC for free (the top quarter of h.s. graduating class get to go to local CC for free Associate's/two years) and THEN transferred to State U as a wiser adult who knows what he wants and how to do it efficiently.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2022, 11:28:00 AM »
@Tempname23 I have one that is just as bad. My MIL makes over half a million a year and has NEVER invested in stocks. She will still retire at 50 just because of the cash she’s saved and because she will bet nearly 8 figures after the sale of her company this year, but I can’t imagine the tens of millions she could have if she would have invested. The best she ever did for herself was never having debt, paying her mortgages off, and a total life insurance policy. She has literally zero interest in investing and will just live off her millions in her checking account. It blows my mind.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2022, 11:53:52 AM »
I'm sure the biggest $$ loss was not even opening an IRA until my late 20s and barely contributing, and not having a 401k, until I was 34.  In fairness, we still made a lot of frugal decisions during that time and had a family on a lowish income.  But finding MMM lit a fire re investing, thank god.

The one that I regret but consider an important lesson is cashing in my old 403b at the bottom in 2008, penalties and all, to pay off like 4k of grad school credit card debt.  I saw the balance falling by half and figured that I needed the $.  It was a small amount but I learned quickly never to do that again. 

The second one is aggressively paying down almost 40k in student loan debt that would have qualified for forgiveness.  Unfortunately I didn't know at the time that it would be eligible, so I'm not sure I could/would have done it differently.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2022, 12:25:52 PM »
Majoring in Communication. In my defense, I got zero help on choosing a major from my parents and I was dealing with severe depression and anxiety. But still. I could have majored in something useful and had a well-paying career.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2022, 01:06:42 PM »
Hiring financial planners instead of socking everything into index funds. Cost me a decade of better growth.

I was young and didn't know there were better options. No real regrets, because I did my best at the time. But sometimes I daydream about what my 'stash would look like if I'd just gone all in on index funds.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2022, 01:28:33 PM »
Majoring in Communication. In my defense, I got zero help on choosing a major from my parents and I was dealing with severe depression and anxiety. But still. I could have majored in something useful and had a well-paying career.

Enh, I chose a "useful" degree and even though I get paid pretty well it kinda sucks.  It seems like the communications/english/history/psychology degrees are ones that are easy enough to obtain, but you really have to grind or go to grad school to make something out of them.  With engineering, the suffering is built-in. 

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2022, 01:29:39 PM »
Majoring in Communication. In my defense, I got zero help on choosing a major from my parents and I was dealing with severe depression and anxiety. But still. I could have majored in something useful and had a well-paying career.

I can't hear communications major without thinking of this Simpson's clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4OuAAM4v_Y

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2022, 01:57:28 PM »
Grad school. Went for a PhD and left 4 years in with a master's. Left me totally miserable and with a good deal of opportunity cost (could have been earning real money thru that time).

OTOH I learned some serious life lessons and will never, ever settle for being unhappy in my work like that again.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2022, 01:58:21 PM »
A number of mistakes that added up over time:

Buying brand new cars (on my parents' advice) and keeping them only 6-8 years.

Buying a large townhouse that I didn't need and then selling it for a large loss 10 yrs later (bought in 2005, sold in 2016)

Not realizing that re-balancing a non-retirement account would be a taxable event

The good news is that we've all made mistakes and STILL manage to be doing okay and hopefully retiring early!  I can't think of too many people who made zero mistakes.

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Re: Worst single financial mistake you've made?
« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2022, 02:06:48 PM »
I was thinking about this today.  I squandered a modest inheritance when I was in college.  To be fair, I'm was struggling immensely with anxiety and I didn't realize it at the time, so I'm not entirely sure I was capable of doing much better.  Some was also stolen by a pretty horrific Ex. But still, it was money I wasted.  IIRC, it was about $50k in today's dollars.  Not earth shattering, but if I'd invested most of that a few decades ago, it would be a lot of money. 

Married a spendthrift. The relationship lasted for 20 years; no real way to quantify how much I could have retained either living on my own or with a spouse who was on the same financial page. Probably in the 6 figures, I bet.

I combined these two. Married a spendthrift that spent a bunch of my inheritance. The worst part is that a bunch of the money we spent on her was for her BS that she never finished, but not for lack of total credits. She has way more credits than I do. She just never took the right classes in the right order. Also, I bought a house in March of 2007 that I lost to foreclosure when I had to divorce the spendthrift. Oh well, I'm still going to retire sometime before 62 and live indoors and eat food and stuff.