I don't know about anyone else, but I was building a toilet paper fort.
Why? Is something happening?
I think it's a combination of people anticipating a quarantine for at least 2 weeks (probably more), people anticipating being ill for a few weeks with coronavirus and unable to leave their homes, and plain old panic.I think it's time to question your life choices if you typically keep less than 14 days of toilet paper on hand.
I think it's a combination of people anticipating a quarantine for at least 2 weeks (probably more), people anticipating being ill for a few weeks with coronavirus and unable to leave their homes, and plain old panic.I think it's time to question your life choices if you typically keep less than 14 days of toilet paper on hand.
I've been trying to go to the bathroom more at work lately in order to conserve TP at home.I always do this. I'm not about to poop on my own time.
I think it's a combination of people anticipating a quarantine for at least 2 weeks (probably more), people anticipating being ill for a few weeks with coronavirus and unable to leave their homes, and plain old panic.I think it's time to question your life choices if you typically keep less than 14 days of toilet paper on hand.
Problem lately is people have been stealing toilet paper form the office bathroom to take home.I've been trying to go to the bathroom more at work lately in order to conserve TP at home.I always do this. I'm not about to poop on my own time.
I've been trying to go to the bathroom more at work lately in order to conserve TP at home.I always do this. I'm not about to poop on my own time.
Given that the Sears magazine is no more...
Just pull out the yellow pages
Or the mailed adverts
Tear a page.... crumple it up until soft
Capital
Given that most youthful summers were lived at an old farmstead with no running water...
I can say it is not that bad & takes very little skill or practice to master.
Given that the Sears magazine is no more...
Just pull out the yellow pages
Or the mailed adverts
Tear a page.... crumple it up until soft
Capital
Given that most youthful summers were lived at an old farmstead with no running water...
I can say it is not that bad & takes very little skill or practice to master.
I heard that some newspaper (don't remember which one) included a number of blank pages "for emergency use."
I guess I just don't get it. Why toilet paper? Why the run on toilet paper?
I think it's a combination of people anticipating a quarantine for at least 2 weeks (probably more), people anticipating being ill for a few weeks with coronavirus and unable to leave their homes, and plain old panic.I think it's time to question your life choices if you typically keep less than 14 days of toilet paper on hand.
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I've been trying to go to the bathroom more at work lately in order to conserve TP at home.
I think it's a combination of people anticipating a quarantine for at least 2 weeks (probably more), people anticipating being ill for a few weeks with coronavirus and unable to leave their homes, and plain old panic.I think it's time to question your life choices if you typically keep less than 14 days of toilet paper on hand.
I've been trying to go to the bathroom more at work lately in order to conserve TP at home.I always do this. I'm not about to poop on my own time.
Maybe all the people who poop at work have no idea how much TP their family would use if home full time for a couple of weeks.
The hilarious thing was overhearing people saying "but we actually need it". Like everyone wants to make sure they are properly identified in their camp - crazy hoarders vs. your average person who needs to wipe their ass. Buying TP has become a source of embarrassment for the sane.
The hilarious thing was overhearing people saying "but we actually need it". Like everyone wants to make sure they are properly identified in their camp - crazy hoarders vs. your average person who needs to wipe their ass. Buying TP has become a source of embarrassment for the sane.
I recall a similar experience on 9/11 (and the day after) with gas stations. It was a terrible time to actually need gas, since the lines were going down the street.
I think it's just an easily "hoardable" item, and once people are in that mindset they don't stop and use logic.
So this is how Demolition Man's 3 seashells is implemented... the great TP shortage of 2020.Love it. LOL
So this is how Demolition Man's 3 seashells is implemented... the great TP shortage of 2020.Love it. LOL
But seriously people, just consider a switch to cloth. After years of using my own homemade stuff (by which I mean an old towel cut up into squares) I splurged last year on a set from Cheeky Wipes (https://www.cheekywipes.com/). No connection to them other than being a satisfied customer. I heard of them because my sister got a set when she had her twins a couple of years ago and she heard of them because a good friend got them when she had a baby. When my set arrived there was damage to part of the container and they sent me a replacement part immediately. I think it took the owner less than an hour to reply to my email.
There was literally no TP at any store I've stopped at in 4 days. Costco, Home Depot, Trader Joe's, target, staples.
I decided to order some in bulk from Staples. We'll see if they actually have it and can deliver it.
If not, there are alternatives. We probably have enough for #2, just not for the one female (me) if I'm stuck at home.
I was remembering the post-birth peri bottle option...and air dry. I can make that happen.
Also "family cloth", if it comes to that. (Or kula cloth).
I don't think everyone *is* hoarding toilet paper. You've got your handful of nutcases who probably are, but when the word gets out that people are hoarding toilet paper, everybody else goes, "hmm, I've only got a week's worth, better buy a pack," or "I guess I should grab an extra pack when I'm at the store, if it's going to be sold out." And when all the "normal" people buy ONE pack of toilet paper that they weren't otherwise planning on buying, you suddenly have a situation that the supply chain was not prepared for.
I think it's not exactly hoarding that people are doing. I think it's a combination of two other things:I think these are the best answers. Inventory Management 101 is the better your demand forecast and the lower your lead-time variability, the less safety stock you need for a given in-stock rate. Something that works incredibly well until it doesn't... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzm1XSnT-oI) I'm going to point out that retailers should have raised prices sharply but people who don't understand economics will complain about "gouging" and maybe the demand surge was too fast to do anything about.
1. I think we have (had?) a finely tuned supply chain for most things. TP would be at the top of the list in terms of supply chain tuning because it's got a simple supply chain (some trees, some bleach, some plastic wrap), the demand is easily predictable (usually), and it's probably all made here in the US, so lead time isn't even a problem.
With a Virus going around, people decide to stock up buy buying an extra 4/6/12-pack of TP. Not a big deal to just buy some extra just in case. But if everyone does it, the finely balanced supply chain that was expecting a constant demand gets hit with a demand shock.
2. Once part 1 happens, people notice it happening. This creates media attention and a FOMO-type / "bank run" type of scenario where people are afraid that there won't be TP there when they need it, so they stock up even more, which just exacerbates the problem.
Pretty much the same story with bottled water.
I'm sure the manufacturers' demand planners and manufacturing folks are hard at work trying to figure out if they need to make more product to alleviate the situation, as well as how much more and when. That is probably hard to predict, although I'm betting that with TP the manufacturers realize that people, in aggregate, probably won't use any more over time, so there will just be an excess inventory in people's bathrooms, and when people realize it's not the End of the World As We Know It, they'll settle down and use up the excess. So TP manufacturers likely will stay the course, as will bottled water people. Hand sanitizer and Clorox wipes and such probably will ramp up production as there will probably be above average use of those for a while.
I'd guess that all of these products can be ramped up fairly quickly (weeks), and I personally think the panic will subside soon, so all in all a short-lived phenomenon IMHO.
In Soviet Union, people used newspapers in case of TP shortages... Subscribe to WSJ and you will be fine!tWhen in the USSR visiting family in my youth, we used newspaper exclusively; I don't know that it was widely available outside of the biggest two or three cities, barring the black market.
Know what's nice? Going to Walmart to buy a pack of TP that you actually need (along with other groceries), and finding that the Walmart Great Value knockoff version of Scotts TP (my friend refers to Scotts as 'prison toilet paper') is the only kind left on the shelves. There's plenty of it because nobody wants it except for you, the frugal Mustachian. Because you've been using it all along.
Know what's nice? Going to Walmart to buy a pack of TP that you actually need (along with other groceries), and finding that the Walmart Great Value knockoff version of Scotts TP (my friend refers to Scotts as 'prison toilet paper') is the only kind left on the shelves. There's plenty of it because nobody wants it except for you, the frugal Mustachian. Because you've been using it all along.
My BF regularly has to make emergency runs to the store for TP. It's, like, the main reason I won't be living with him - I cannot deal with (what seems to me like) his complete unwillingness to think ahead.
Know what's nice? Going to Walmart to buy a pack of TP that you actually need (along with other groceries), and finding that the Walmart Great Value knockoff version of Scotts TP (my friend refers to Scotts as 'prison toilet paper') is the only kind left on the shelves. There's plenty of it because nobody wants it except for you, the frugal Mustachian. Because you've been using it all along.
Why not just buy sand paper? Same effect.
Mine actually shipped! From TX. Supposed to come Tuesday. I'm in California.There was literally no TP at any store I've stopped at in 4 days. Costco, Home Depot, Trader Joe's, target, staples.
I decided to order some in bulk from Staples. We'll see if they actually have it and can deliver it.
If not, there are alternatives. We probably have enough for #2, just not for the one female (me) if I'm stuck at home.
I was remembering the post-birth peri bottle option...and air dry. I can make that happen.
Also "family cloth", if it comes to that. (Or kula cloth).
Good idea. I just ordered some from Staples too. They say it will be delivered tomorrow.
Okay, people have lost their damn minds.
Our little neighborhood Aldi is a free-for-all, with people in masks shoveling cases of orange juice and cool whip in their carts and ignoring the “limit 3 gallons” sign on the milk case. The store is completely out of flour and meat (except corned beef) and most fresh fruit. Fortunately, bacon, kale, cabbage, mushrooms, plain yogurt, and limes don’t seem popular so I bought one pack of each (all on my list before the shit hit the fan) and a corned beef brisket.
Okay, people have lost their damn minds.
Our little neighborhood Aldi is a free-for-all, with people in masks shoveling cases of orange juice and cool whip in their carts and ignoring the “limit 3 gallons” sign on the milk case. The store is completely out of flour and meat (except corned beef) and most fresh fruit. Fortunately, bacon, kale, cabbage, mushrooms, plain yogurt, and limes don’t seem popular so I bought one pack of each (all on my list before the shit hit the fan) and a corned beef brisket.
Wouldn't corned beef be a great thing to buy as a long lasting quarantine staple?
I bought a bidet add-on for the toilet.
The hoarders' actions have a ripple effect on those of us not following the herd. When doing my regular weekly grocery shopping -- which includes buying a pack of TP -- it is perfectly rational to see the low stock and pick up two packs instead of the usual one pack, fearing that the hoarders are going to...wipe out the supply before I visit the store next week. While I feel a little self-conscious with two packs at the checkout line, I put on my most charmin' smile and mention that I have a large family, all of whom have IBS. I thereby hope to dispel any notion that I'm going to leave the store just to ply my extra rolls on the TP black market.
The hoarders' actions have a ripple effect on those of us not following the herd. When doing my regular weekly grocery shopping -- which includes buying a pack of TP -- it is perfectly rational to see the low stock and pick up two packs instead of the usual one pack, fearing that the hoarders are going to...wipe out the supply before I visit the store next week. While I feel a little self-conscious with two packs at the checkout line, I put on my most charmin' smile and mention that I have a large family, all of whom have IBS. I thereby hope to dispel any notion that I'm going to leave the store just to ply my extra rolls on the TP black market.
I hereby, nominate one Bird In Hand, for the esteemed position of Master Punster of Mu$tacian$.
And I like his/her signature line too!
Okay, people have lost their damn minds.
Our little neighborhood Aldi is a free-for-all, with people in masks shoveling cases of orange juice and cool whip in their carts and ignoring the “limit 3 gallons” sign on the milk case. The store is completely out of flour and meat (except corned beef) and most fresh fruit. Fortunately, bacon, kale, cabbage, mushrooms, plain yogurt, and limes don’t seem popular so I bought one pack of each (all on my list before the shit hit the fan) and a corned beef brisket.
Does anyone know how to make a home made bidet from common items found around the house? Asking for a friend.
Amen!I think it's a combination of people anticipating a quarantine for at least 2 weeks (probably more), people anticipating being ill for a few weeks with coronavirus and unable to leave their homes, and plain old panic.I think it's time to question your life choices if you typically keep less than 14 days of toilet paper on hand.
Does anyone know how to make a home made bidet from common items found around the house? Asking for a friend.
Step 1 - Lift shower head from cradle
Step 2 - Complete!
just came here to say it's...
for when the shit hits the fan.
But seriously, I'm with OP. I usually have 'what I'm using plus one'. When my ketchup is empty, I pull out the 'plus one', and put ketchup on the grocery list. I've also accidentally thought I was almost out of TP twice in the past so I have an overstock.
just came here to say it's...
for when the shit hits the fan.
But seriously, I'm with OP. I usually have 'what I'm using plus one'. When my ketchup is empty, I pull out the 'plus one', and put ketchup on the grocery list. I've also accidentally thought I was almost out of TP twice in the past so I have an overstock.
Yeah that's how our house usually functions too. DW and I did that last fall... We still haven't broken into the second Kirkland pack. Yesterday I was at Costco and they had TP... I decided not to be an ass since we still have plenty. It's interesting to think that as Mustachians we have more options to hoard than most people because we have more money but most of us clearly are not. I did buy an extra half gallon of mayo, but only because it was on sale and doesn't go bad.
It was a little weird going through the line with my normal costco groceries while everyone around is in total chaos stocking up. Like others mentioned it's weird to feel like I needed to defend my normal purchases from accusations of hoarding... I also had to buy one lb blocks of butter because they were out of the regular sticks...
Does anyone know how to make a home made bidet from common items found around the house? Asking for a friend.
Step 1 - Lift shower head from cradle
Step 2 - Complete!
Instructions unclear. Gave myself massive enema.
just came here to say it's...
for when the shit hits the fan.
But seriously, I'm with OP. I usually have 'what I'm using plus one'. When my ketchup is empty, I pull out the 'plus one', and put ketchup on the grocery list. I've also accidentally thought I was almost out of TP twice in the past so I have an overstock.
Yeah that's how our house usually functions too. DW and I did that last fall... We still haven't broken into the second Kirkland pack. Yesterday I was at Costco and they had TP... I decided not to be an ass since we still have plenty. It's interesting to think that as Mustachians we have more options to hoard than most people because we have more money but most of us clearly are not. I did buy an extra half gallon of mayo, but only because it was on sale and doesn't go bad.
It was a little weird going through the line with my normal costco groceries while everyone around is in total chaos stocking up. Like others mentioned it's weird to feel like I needed to defend my normal purchases from accusations of hoarding... I also had to buy one lb blocks of butter because they were out of the regular sticks...
I have been buying a bit more. Last week I stocked up on some non perishables because I had just finished a clean out the cupboards goal and decided now wasn't a good time for bare cupboards. This week, I bought enough that I shouldn't have to go back for a whole week, vs our normal 2x a week shopping. The stores are crazy and I don't want to go more often for my mental health, much less my physical health.
I do know that there have been panics in Hong Kong and Japan over toilet paper, and sell-outs in Australia. That's probably crystallized in people's minds as "we're all going to run out of toilet paper and it will be anarchy!"
Does anyone know how to make a home made bidet from common items found around the house? Asking for a friend.
Step 1 - Lift shower head from cradle
Step 2 - Complete!
Instructions unclear. Gave myself massive enema.
Does anyone know how to make a home made bidet from common items found around the house? Asking for a friend.
Step 1 - Lift shower head from cradle
Step 2 - Complete!
Instructions unclear. Gave myself massive enema.
Your water pressure must be significantly better than mine.
Cut out the middle man (aka toilet) and take your morning dump in the shower.
No wasted toilet paper and no need for a bidet.
Kidding of course cause that sounds nasty :o
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Cut out the middle man (aka toilet) and take your morning dump in the shower.
No wasted toilet paper and no need for a bidet.
Kidding of course cause that sounds nasty :o
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Why buy a lot of toilet paper? Probably because people heard the shit was going to hit the fan. And what else do people clean shit up with?
The hilarious thing was overhearing people saying "but we actually need it".
Does anyone know how to make a home made bidet from common items found around the house? Asking for a friend.
No toilet paper, no bread, no vegetables, no cheese, no meat. This is bonkers. I've never experienced anything quite like this.No, it's a demand shock; there is no supply shock (yet). There is more TP on the way. My city was out for half a week but everyone at Hyvee had a package in their cart today. I have a 6 month supply myself purchased a month ago. Tons of cheese and I don't buy meat that often but it was mostly available in abundance. The only things with low stock here today were beans and rice. Maybe people are embracing David Ramsey's advice ;)
I've heard from people on the inside at some stores that despite the public message of "nothing is wrong more tp is on the way so don't worry" there have been major supply line interruptions, and there will be nationwide shortage soon with no one getting more for a month or more. I do not know how credible those sources are, so take that with a grain of salt.
More toilet paper on the way through the end of next week, then a glut, or so the rumor goes. Just a rumor I've heard, so don't take it as true or not.Nice pics! Very striking though still an extremely well stocked store compared to the USSR. The potential future glut is probably related to the bull-whip effect which results in an oversupply in inventory as an over-response to a sudden surge in demand. I have some goat meat in my freezer I can mail to you.
Went to 2 stores tonight, and they were out of most everything. Apples, bananas, bread, asparagus, broccoli, onions, potatoes, water, toilet paper, sanitizer.
Empty bread aisle:
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Meat department:
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There was some food stocked still, I'm not going to starve, I just can't get half the things I want. I've gotta use plain feta instead of the garlic feta I like when I make my quiche. This is supposed to be a first world country god damnit!
Yeah, don't be these guys, folks.
He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage)
On March 1, the day after the first coronavirus death in the United States, brothers Matt and Noah Colvin set out in a silver S.U.V. to pick up some hand sanitizer. Driving around Chattanooga, Tenn., they hit a Dollar Tree, then a Walmart, a Staples and a Home Depot. At each store, they cleaned out the shelves.
Over the next three days, Noah Colvin took a 1,300-mile road trip across Tennessee and into Kentucky, filling a U-Haul truck with thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer and thousands of packs of antibacterial wipes, mostly from “little hole-in-the-wall dollar stores in the backwoods,” his brother said. “The major metro areas were cleaned out.”
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The next day, Amazon pulled his items and thousands of other listings for sanitizer, wipes and face masks. The company suspended some of the sellers behind the listings and warned many others that if they kept running up prices, they’d lose their accounts. EBay soon followed with even stricter measures, prohibiting any U.S. sales of masks or sanitizer.
I would argue that Amazon made the situation worse by preventing them from selling their product at the price the market would bear.Yeah, don't be these guys, folks.
He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage)
I wish that we had laws about people like this.QuoteOn March 1, the day after the first coronavirus death in the United States, brothers Matt and Noah Colvin set out in a silver S.U.V. to pick up some hand sanitizer. Driving around Chattanooga, Tenn., they hit a Dollar Tree, then a Walmart, a Staples and a Home Depot. At each store, they cleaned out the shelves.
Over the next three days, Noah Colvin took a 1,300-mile road trip across Tennessee and into Kentucky, filling a U-Haul truck with thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer and thousands of packs of antibacterial wipes, mostly from “little hole-in-the-wall dollar stores in the backwoods,” his brother said. “The major metro areas were cleaned out.”
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The next day, Amazon pulled his items and thousands of other listings for sanitizer, wipes and face masks. The company suspended some of the sellers behind the listings and warned many others that if they kept running up prices, they’d lose their accounts. EBay soon followed with even stricter measures, prohibiting any U.S. sales of masks or sanitizer.
Good.
I hope assholes like that guy lose tons of money from this. I highly doubt they will though.
People like them actively make the situation worse.
I would argue that Amazon made the situation worse by preventing them from selling their product at the price the market would bear.
I would argue that Amazon made the situation worse by preventing them from selling their product at the price the market would bear.
How so?
Overblown panic and reactions like buying all of a medical supply in order to create artificial scarcity and then price gouge make situations like Corona considerably worse.
Societally, people like the guys here are bad actors who actively make things collectively worse for their own selfish gain.
Just the same as how we have laws against most things that damage other people, I have no problems with effectively preventing people from doing this type of thing in our society.
How many people will end up with no hand sanitizer because of this? How many vulnerable people will not be able to have hand sanitizer as a result of some assholes trying to profit?
Medical professionals are going to have problems with supplies because people like these bought up supplies.
Ugh. My parents are stupid. I TOLD them to do a big shopping trip.
Anywhere online that actually has TP? They're in Detroit area.
Ugh. My parents are stupid. I TOLD them to do a big shopping trip.
Anywhere online that actually has TP? They're in Detroit area.
Ok, crisis averted, thanks to @Dollar Slice for the tip. Dad found a package of TP, it's not their preferred brand, but they only have themselves to blame because I told them.
There was some food stocked still, I'm not going to starve, I just can't get half the things I want. I've gotta use plain feta instead of the garlic feta I like when I make my quiche. This is supposed to be a first world country god damnit!
Is that really even living???
There was some food stocked still, I'm not going to starve, I just can't get half the things I want. I've gotta use plain feta instead of the garlic feta I like when I make my quiche. This is supposed to be a first world country god damnit!
Is that really even living???
I'm basically in Auschwitz. No bananas, and using plain feta. And my regular supply of toilet paper is down to only about a month left.
All joking aside though the stores are looking pretty grim, and have been getting progressively worse for the past month. We still aren't in any danger of starving, but it's definitely becoming a major inconvenience. I am slightly concerned what it's going to look like in another month if this virus spreads wild like it's been doing in Italy.
Our plan is to use our baby's cloth diapers as toilet paper if the local supply really runs low. Though hopefully it won't come to that!
It's funny to hear about all the panic buying in response to "other people panic buying." It's still panic buying and contributes to the chaos!
There was some food stocked still, I'm not going to starve, I just can't get half the things I want. I've gotta use plain feta instead of the garlic feta I like when I make my quiche. This is supposed to be a first world country god damnit!
Is that really even living???
I'm basically in Auschwitz. No bananas, and using plain feta. And my regular supply of toilet paper is down to only about a month left.
All joking aside though the stores are looking pretty grim, and have been getting progressively worse for the past month. We still aren't in any danger of starving, but it's definitely becoming a major inconvenience. I am slightly concerned what it's going to look like in another month if this virus spreads wild like it's been doing in Italy.
I went to get groceries first thing in the morning like I usually do. Instead of 1-2 cars in the parking lot, the lot was full before the store opened. Shelves were already half bare by the time I got a cart. Really hoping that people calm the hell down in the next couple weeks or it will get grim.
There was some food stocked still, I'm not going to starve, I just can't get half the things I want. I've gotta use plain feta instead of the garlic feta I like when I make my quiche. This is supposed to be a first world country god damnit!
Is that really even living???
I'm basically in Auschwitz. No bananas, and using plain feta. And my regular supply of toilet paper is down to only about a month left.
All joking aside though the stores are looking pretty grim, and have been getting progressively worse for the past month. We still aren't in any danger of starving, but it's definitely becoming a major inconvenience. I am slightly concerned what it's going to look like in another month if this virus spreads wild like it's been doing in Italy.
I went to get groceries first thing in the morning like I usually do. Instead of 1-2 cars in the parking lot, the lot was full before the store opened. Shelves were already half bare by the time I got a cart. Really hoping that people calm the hell down in the next couple weeks or it will get grim.
It's absolute insanity. Im hopeful that this pandemic thing isn't going to be as bad as many are predicting, but the panic right now is real.
People panic every time there is a snow storm forecasted, but this is a whole new level I've never witnessed in my 37 years.
I would argue that Amazon made the situation worse by preventing them from selling their product at the price the market would bear.Yeah, don't be these guys, folks.
He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage)
I wish that we had laws about people like this.QuoteOn March 1, the day after the first coronavirus death in the United States, brothers Matt and Noah Colvin set out in a silver S.U.V. to pick up some hand sanitizer. Driving around Chattanooga, Tenn., they hit a Dollar Tree, then a Walmart, a Staples and a Home Depot. At each store, they cleaned out the shelves.
Over the next three days, Noah Colvin took a 1,300-mile road trip across Tennessee and into Kentucky, filling a U-Haul truck with thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer and thousands of packs of antibacterial wipes, mostly from “little hole-in-the-wall dollar stores in the backwoods,” his brother said. “The major metro areas were cleaned out.”
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The next day, Amazon pulled his items and thousands of other listings for sanitizer, wipes and face masks. The company suspended some of the sellers behind the listings and warned many others that if they kept running up prices, they’d lose their accounts. EBay soon followed with even stricter measures, prohibiting any U.S. sales of masks or sanitizer.
Good.
I hope assholes like that guy lose tons of money from this. I highly doubt they will though.
People like them actively make the situation worse.
It's basically an arms race.
If 5% of people freak out and initiate operation-hoarder-level-9000, the remaining 95% are forced to determine if they are going to take their chances by not hoarding themselves to some extent too or face the risk of being bystander casualties.
I'm a west-sider (lake-effect snow country), so people here don't stock up unless a blizzard is forecast. I don't even then. I could cross-country ski the 1 mile from my house to Meijer or Walmart if I really needed to. 6 inches of snow is just a night of snow, NBD.There was some food stocked still, I'm not going to starve, I just can't get half the things I want. I've gotta use plain feta instead of the garlic feta I like when I make my quiche. This is supposed to be a first world country god damnit!
Is that really even living???
I'm basically in Auschwitz. No bananas, and using plain feta. And my regular supply of toilet paper is down to only about a month left.
All joking aside though the stores are looking pretty grim, and have been getting progressively worse for the past month. We still aren't in any danger of starving, but it's definitely becoming a major inconvenience. I am slightly concerned what it's going to look like in another month if this virus spreads wild like it's been doing in Italy.
I went to get groceries first thing in the morning like I usually do. Instead of 1-2 cars in the parking lot, the lot was full before the store opened. Shelves were already half bare by the time I got a cart. Really hoping that people calm the hell down in the next couple weeks or it will get grim.
It's absolute insanity. Im hopeful that this pandemic thing isn't going to be as bad as many are predicting, but the panic right now is real.
People panic every time there is a snow storm forecasted, but this is a whole new level I've never witnessed in my 37 years.
Same. After living here for 40+ years, I assumed the panic level would be “forecast of 6 inches of snow tomorrow” x10. I was so naïve.
I would argue that Amazon made the situation worse by preventing them from selling their product at the price the market would bear.Yeah, don't be these guys, folks.
He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage)
I wish that we had laws about people like this.QuoteOn March 1, the day after the first coronavirus death in the United States, brothers Matt and Noah Colvin set out in a silver S.U.V. to pick up some hand sanitizer. Driving around Chattanooga, Tenn., they hit a Dollar Tree, then a Walmart, a Staples and a Home Depot. At each store, they cleaned out the shelves.
Over the next three days, Noah Colvin took a 1,300-mile road trip across Tennessee and into Kentucky, filling a U-Haul truck with thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer and thousands of packs of antibacterial wipes, mostly from “little hole-in-the-wall dollar stores in the backwoods,” his brother said. “The major metro areas were cleaned out.”
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The next day, Amazon pulled his items and thousands of other listings for sanitizer, wipes and face masks. The company suspended some of the sellers behind the listings and warned many others that if they kept running up prices, they’d lose their accounts. EBay soon followed with even stricter measures, prohibiting any U.S. sales of masks or sanitizer.
Good.
I hope assholes like that guy lose tons of money from this. I highly doubt they will though.
People like them actively make the situation worse.
I'm a west-sider (lake-effect snow country), so people here don't stock up unless a blizzard is forecast. I don't even then. I could cross-country ski the 1 mile from my house to Meijer or Walmart if I really needed to. 6 inches of snow is just a night of snow, NBD.There was some food stocked still, I'm not going to starve, I just can't get half the things I want. I've gotta use plain feta instead of the garlic feta I like when I make my quiche. This is supposed to be a first world country god damnit!
Is that really even living???
I'm basically in Auschwitz. No bananas, and using plain feta. And my regular supply of toilet paper is down to only about a month left.
All joking aside though the stores are looking pretty grim, and have been getting progressively worse for the past month. We still aren't in any danger of starving, but it's definitely becoming a major inconvenience. I am slightly concerned what it's going to look like in another month if this virus spreads wild like it's been doing in Italy.
I went to get groceries first thing in the morning like I usually do. Instead of 1-2 cars in the parking lot, the lot was full before the store opened. Shelves were already half bare by the time I got a cart. Really hoping that people calm the hell down in the next couple weeks or it will get grim.
It's absolute insanity. Im hopeful that this pandemic thing isn't going to be as bad as many are predicting, but the panic right now is real.
People panic every time there is a snow storm forecasted, but this is a whole new level I've never witnessed in my 37 years.
Same. After living here for 40+ years, I assumed the panic level would be “forecast of 6 inches of snow tomorrow” x10. I was so naïve.
Our plan is to use our baby's cloth diapers as toilet paper if the local supply really runs low. Though hopefully it won't come to that!
It's funny to hear about all the panic buying in response to "other people panic buying." It's still panic buying and contributes to the chaos!
It is, but what else are you supposed to do? It's very Noble and enlightened to sit back and say "there is no reason to panic everyone!" Meanwhile all the supplies people are panic buying are gone and now you have none if you didn't participate in the insanity.
I don't think your message is very reassuring to the people sitting at home with no toilet paper and no hand sanitizer.
I'm a west-sider (lake-effect snow country), so people here don't stock up unless a blizzard is forecast. I don't even then. I could cross-country ski the 1 mile from my house to Meijer or Walmart if I really needed to. 6 inches of snow is just a night of snow, NBD.There was some food stocked still, I'm not going to starve, I just can't get half the things I want. I've gotta use plain feta instead of the garlic feta I like when I make my quiche. This is supposed to be a first world country god damnit!
Is that really even living???
I'm basically in Auschwitz. No bananas, and using plain feta. And my regular supply of toilet paper is down to only about a month left.
All joking aside though the stores are looking pretty grim, and have been getting progressively worse for the past month. We still aren't in any danger of starving, but it's definitely becoming a major inconvenience. I am slightly concerned what it's going to look like in another month if this virus spreads wild like it's been doing in Italy.
I went to get groceries first thing in the morning like I usually do. Instead of 1-2 cars in the parking lot, the lot was full before the store opened. Shelves were already half bare by the time I got a cart. Really hoping that people calm the hell down in the next couple weeks or it will get grim.
It's absolute insanity. Im hopeful that this pandemic thing isn't going to be as bad as many are predicting, but the panic right now is real.
People panic every time there is a snow storm forecasted, but this is a whole new level I've never witnessed in my 37 years.
Same. After living here for 40+ years, I assumed the panic level would be “forecast of 6 inches of snow tomorrow” x10. I was so naïve.
Yeah, I know. We have family in GR and Muskegon. Much lower population densities. How are your Meijer shelves?
Exactly. If the buyer is willing to pay that much and gets what is advertised, then it's a fair deal. That's capitalism working as it should.
The people with massive hoards of products that have been banned from on-line sites will simply show up at grocery store parking lots and sell out of their trunk. Of course, they might get lynched there......
I just use facial tissues in place of toilet paper if I do run out. Flush just like TP.
Heard that some people are buying pounds upon pounds of bananas too. I don't get it at all. What's the point of stockpiling something that's going to turn to mush before you can possibly eat it all?Frozen bananas have many uses, so hopefully no one is letting these go to waste. My usual habit is 2 bananas a week, but I'll admit I was considering getting at least 2 weeks worth on my next grocery trip!
Heard that some people are buying pounds upon pounds of bananas too. I don't get it at all. What's the point of stockpiling something that's going to turn to mush before you can possibly eat it all?Frozen bananas have many uses....
I just use facial tissues in place of toilet paper if I do run out. Flush just like TP.
It's funny to hear about all the panic buying in response to "other people panic buying." It's still panic buying and contributes to the chaos!
Banana ice cream is the best! Especially mixed with peanut butter and/or fudge.
So this is how Demolition Man's 3 seashells is implemented... the great TP shortage of 2020.Love it. LOL
But seriously people, just consider a switch to cloth. After years of using my own homemade stuff (by which I mean an old towel cut up into squares) I splurged last year on a set from Cheeky Wipes (https://www.cheekywipes.com/). No connection to them other than being a satisfied customer. I heard of them because my sister got a set when she had her twins a couple of years ago and she heard of them because a good friend got them when she had a baby. When my set arrived there was damage to part of the container and they sent me a replacement part immediately. I think it took the owner less than an hour to reply to my email.
Good thing we did, as within a couple days all of the shelves were bare and we'd be shitting in the shower this week (thanks MMM forum members for the great idea!).
It's just a way of trying to take back some control of the situation. I bet that before the Civil War there was panic buying of buttons or nails, or some other useful but not gonna win the war type of items. I think we all have the instinct to gather/stock up when things look uncertain. At least it's not people stockpiling ammunition, huh?
The more I think about it I don't think the panic buying and hoarding is a psychological response to help people feel in control. That may be true for a small minority, but I think the rest of it is a perfectly rational response to others. I certainly don't think the situation required hoarding (obviously as I created this thread), but in retrospect I should have panicked and hoarded goods I need just in response to other people's panic. By trying to be responsible and not panic I have now put myself at a disadvantage compared to everyone else that did panic. Hopefully the situation doesn't get any worse and I am able to find some toilet paper in the next couple of weeks. If see anything useful that I fear will be panic bought en mass I will be snatching it for sure and adding to panic buying
The more I think about it I don't think the panic buying and hoarding is a psychological response to help people feel in control. That may be true for a small minority, but I think the rest of it is a perfectly rational response to others. I certainly don't think the situation required hoarding (obviously as I created this thread), but in retrospect I should have panicked and hoarded goods I need just in response to other people's panic. By trying to be responsible and not panic I have now put myself at a disadvantage compared to everyone else that did panic. Hopefully the situation doesn't get any worse and I am able to find some toilet paper in the next couple of weeks. If see anything useful that I fear will be panic bought en mass I will be snatching it for sure and adding to panic buying
The more I think about it I don't think the panic buying and hoarding is a psychological response to help people feel in control. That may be true for a small minority, but I think the rest of it is a perfectly rational response to others. I certainly don't think the situation required hoarding (obviously as I created this thread), but in retrospect I should have panicked and hoarded goods I need just in response to other people's panic. By trying to be responsible and not panic I have now put myself at a disadvantage compared to everyone else that did panic. Hopefully the situation doesn't get any worse and I am able to find some toilet paper in the next couple of weeks. If see anything useful that I fear will be panic bought en mass I will be snatching it for sure and adding to panic buying
Give it a few days and try the stores again. Right now, people are reacting to 1) the first positive tests, 2) Gov. Whitmer's late-night press conference on Thurs., and 3) all the shutdowns. Once the initial panic dies down, the stores should be able to restock a bit more normally.
My sense is people are trying to get two months ahead. Once they do that they will have this inventory at home and things will return to normal and supply chain will stabilize. Temp shortages no big deal.
The more I think about it I don't think the panic buying and hoarding is a psychological response to help people feel in control. That may be true for a small minority, but I think the rest of it is a perfectly rational response to others. I certainly don't think the situation required hoarding (obviously as I created this thread), but in retrospect I should have panicked and hoarded goods I need just in response to other people's panic. By trying to be responsible and not panic I have now put myself at a disadvantage compared to everyone else that did panic. Hopefully the situation doesn't get any worse and I am able to find some toilet paper in the next couple of weeks. If see anything useful that I fear will be panic bought en mass I will be snatching it for sure and adding to panic buying
Give it a few days and try the stores again. Right now, people are reacting to 1) the first positive tests, 2) Gov. Whitmer's late-night press conference on Thurs., and 3) all the shutdowns. Once the initial panic dies down, the stores should be able to restock a bit more normally.
My husband found some TP at Meijer today. I convinced him to do the social distancing, so he today bought a ton of stuff to get us through ~ a month at home. We're just trying to help the cause of not contributing to the spread/ overwhelming the hospitals.
My sense is people are trying to get two months ahead. Once they do that they will have this inventory at home and things will return to normal and supply chain will stabilize. Temp shortages no big deal.
I don't believe this. We wouldn't be running out of fresh fruit and vegetables if people were planning months ahead. None of that will last for months.
My sense is people are trying to get two months ahead. Once they do that they will have this inventory at home and things will return to normal and supply chain will stabilize. Temp shortages no big deal.
I don't believe this. We wouldn't be running out of fresh fruit and vegetables if people were planning months ahead. None of that will last for months.
Exactly. If the buyer is willing to pay that much and gets what is advertised, then it's a fair deal. That's capitalism working as it should.
No it isn't. If capitalism worked like that then the gasoline companies should have been able to collude to make the price of gas $50 a gallon in his area so he could not have afforded to drive the U-haul truck around to collect all the sanitizer.
People say they want this pure type of capitalism but they don't realize how many systems are in place to protect them from pure capitalism.
It's basically an arms race.If stores would raise their prices in proportional response to the increase in demand, then I doubt many people would be willing to pay the premium required to hoard things. Of course, then the stores would be charged with the heinous crime of "price gouging" (aka following the rules of basic economics). I applaud stores that increase prices when demand is high. It discourages people from buying more than they need, and ensures that product is available for the people who really need it.
If 5% of people freak out and initiate operation-hoarder-level-9000, the remaining 95% are forced to determine if they are going to take their chances by not hoarding themselves to some extent too or face the risk of being bystander casualties.
I guess I just don't get it. Why toilet paper? Why the run on toilet paper? All these people panicked about coronavirus - did they not anticipate needing toilet paper before this virus? What have they been using literally every day of their life?When I was a kid there were some fuel shortages. This led to lines around the block at petrol stations. In fact there wasn't really a great shortage. But because people worried about a shortage, instead of filling up when the tank was empty, they filled up whenever they saw a petrol station. Suddenly the places needed 50-100% more fuel, and the places which could get by with a weekly tanker delivery now needed one every 3-4 days. But before they could arrange it they'd run out of fuel and put a sign up saying so. Seeing this sign, drivers would rush to the next petrol station and line up, and...
I guess I just don't get it. Why toilet paper? Why the run on toilet paper? All these people panicked about coronavirus - did they not anticipate needing toilet paper before this virus? What have they been using literally every day of their life?When I was a kid there were some fuel shortages. This led to lines around the block at petrol stations. In fact there wasn't really a great shortage. But because people worried about a shortage, instead of filling up when the tank was empty, they filled up whenever they saw a petrol station. Suddenly the places needed 50-100% more fuel, and the places which could get by with a weekly tanker delivery now needed one every 3-4 days. But before they could arrange it they'd run out of fuel and put a sign up saying so. Seeing this sign, drivers would rush to the next petrol station and line up, and...
This is consumer behaviour. A slight perception of a possible shortage in the stores actually creates a shortage in the stores. Meanwhile, exactly nobody has their car putter out with an empty tank and have to be left on the side of the road, exactly nobody is sitting at home on the toilet looking at the empty roll and wondering what to do. It's just that instead of being content with having 3-4 rolls sitting there waiting by the toilet, they want to see a 24 pack.
A run on the banks can happen the same way, history shows. If a rumour goes around that your bank will be limiting cash withdrawals soon, some people will rush to withdraw all their money, the branch will run out of cash, news that it's run out of cash will get around, so then more people will rush to other branches to withdraw their cash, and then the fractional reserve laws will kick in, and the bank will have to call in some of its debts, and - then the bank executive or the government steps in and limits cash withdrawals.
If it weren't bog rolls it'd be something else. Pasta and rice are getting wiped out here. Which is funny, really: even in refugee camps people get rice and beans. There's plenty of tinned fruit and vegies, stacks of fresh fruit and vegies. Do people think they will live on pasta and rice? No, they're just not thinking.
As they said in Men in Black, a person is smart, people are stupid.
I definitely keep a bit more than just 3-4 rolls, but I am now below my normal level. And I can't get any more. I haven't seen a roll of toilet paper for sale in weeks. All I see are empty shelves in every store.
They had stacks of soap, though. And that works better (https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/show-me-the-science-hand-sanitizer.html).
I definitely keep a bit more than just 3-4 rolls, but I am now below my normal level. And I can't get any more. I haven't seen a roll of toilet paper for sale in weeks. All I see are empty shelves in every store.
It was exactly 1 week ago I last saw TP in the store, and it was fairly plentiful at the time. I didn't need any, but I went ahead and bought extra because I heard of shortages elsewhere. So, I now have 300 rolls (regular equivalent).
It was exactly 2 weeks ago I last saw hand sanitizer in the store. I bought two large bottles of it. I wish I had bought a couple more.
I definitely keep a bit more than just 3-4 rolls, but I am now below my normal level. And I can't get any more. I haven't seen a roll of toilet paper for sale in weeks. All I see are empty shelves in every store.
It was exactly 1 week ago I last saw TP in the store, and it was fairly plentiful at the time. I didn't need any, but I went ahead and bought extra because I heard of shortages elsewhere. So, I now have 300 rolls (regular equivalent).
It was exactly 2 weeks ago I last saw hand sanitizer in the store. I bought two large bottles of it. I wish I had bought a couple more.
Wow, that's like 3 years worth for our family of four.
So, uhm....how does that cloth wipe thing work when you have, er....street tacos? Do you just toss the completed wipe job in the laundry machine or do you have to sort of rinse it first?
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I guess I just don't get it. Why toilet paper? Why the run on toilet paper? All these people panicked about coronavirus - did they not anticipate needing toilet paper before this virus? What have they been using literally every day of their life?When I was a kid there were some fuel shortages. This led to lines around the block at petrol stations. In fact there wasn't really a great shortage. But because people worried about a shortage, instead of filling up when the tank was empty, they filled up whenever they saw a petrol station. Suddenly the places needed 50-100% more fuel, and the places which could get by with a weekly tanker delivery now needed one every 3-4 days. But before they could arrange it they'd run out of fuel and put a sign up saying so. Seeing this sign, drivers would rush to the next petrol station and line up, and...
This is consumer behaviour. A slight perception of a possible shortage in the stores actually creates a shortage in the stores. Meanwhile, exactly nobody has their car putter out with an empty tank and have to be left on the side of the road, exactly nobody is sitting at home on the toilet looking at the empty roll and wondering what to do. It's just that instead of being content with having 3-4 rolls sitting there waiting by the toilet, they want to see a 24 pack.
A run on the banks can happen the same way, history shows. If a rumour goes around that your bank will be limiting cash withdrawals soon, some people will rush to withdraw all their money, the branch will run out of cash, news that it's run out of cash will get around, so then more people will rush to other branches to withdraw their cash, and then the fractional reserve laws will kick in, and the bank will have to call in some of its debts, and - then the bank executive or the government steps in and limits cash withdrawals.
If it weren't bog rolls it'd be something else. Pasta and rice are getting wiped out here. Which is funny, really: even in refugee camps people get rice and beans. There's plenty of tinned fruit and vegies, stacks of fresh fruit and vegies. Do people think they will live on pasta and rice? No, they're just not thinking.
As they said in Men in Black, a person is smart, people are stupid.
You're supposed to but I never got around to it. The edges got a bit frayed on some but the frayed bits got tangled in the washing machine, which kept them from fraying more.So this is how Demolition Man's 3 seashells is implemented... the great TP shortage of 2020.Love it. LOL
But seriously people, just consider a switch to cloth. After years of using my own homemade stuff (by which I mean an old towel cut up into squares) I splurged last year on a set from Cheeky Wipes (https://www.cheekywipes.com/). No connection to them other than being a satisfied customer. I heard of them because my sister got a set when she had her twins a couple of years ago and she heard of them because a good friend got them when she had a baby. When my set arrived there was damage to part of the container and they sent me a replacement part immediately. I think it took the owner less than an hour to reply to my email.
If you cut up an old towel, do you need to sew the edges so it won't unravel when washed?
I think for old T-shirts the answer is "no"? I seem to recall reading somewhere that one could use old T-shirt squares for nose-blowing.
Also, what about old bedsheets? Need to sew edges?
Setting this in spoiler tags because it's likely TMI/far too graphic talk about poo for some.So, uhm....how does that cloth wipe thing work when you have, er....street tacos? Do you just toss the completed wipe job in the laundry machine or do you have to sort of rinse it first?
So glad you asked!
We throw all the soiled cloths in the washing machine, do a rinse cycle on cold without detergent (using a high water level to make sure it can rinse well), then wash as usual.
So far we have used the wipes only for our baby's cloth diapering, but the TP panic is giving me the idea that we could use them for ourselves as well.
I strip off before I get up off the toilet and just get straight into the shower and rinse off properly.
I definitely keep a bit more than just 3-4 rolls, but I am now below my normal level. And I can't get any more. I haven't seen a roll of toilet paper for sale in weeks. All I see are empty shelves in every store.
It was exactly 1 week ago I last saw TP in the store, and it was fairly plentiful at the time. I didn't need any, but I went ahead and bought extra because I heard of shortages elsewhere. So, I now have 300 rolls (regular equivalent).
It was exactly 2 weeks ago I last saw hand sanitizer in the store. I bought two large bottles of it. I wish I had bought a couple more.
Wow, that's like 3 years worth for our family of four.
That's the regular roll equivalent. Each package of 6 says it is equal to 32 rolls. Anyway, that's for only one butt, so it should last a long time. I bought most of it before there was ever any clue that there was going to be a TP shortage on shelves.
I definitely keep a bit more than just 3-4 rolls, but I am now below my normal level. And I can't get any more. I haven't seen a roll of toilet paper for sale in weeks. All I see are empty shelves in every store.
It was exactly 1 week ago I last saw TP in the store, and it was fairly plentiful at the time. I didn't need any, but I went ahead and bought extra because I heard of shortages elsewhere. So, I now have 300 rolls (regular equivalent).
It was exactly 2 weeks ago I last saw hand sanitizer in the store. I bought two large bottles of it. I wish I had bought a couple more.
The more I think about it I don't think the panic buying and hoarding is a psychological response to help people feel in control. That may be true for a small minority, but I think the rest of it is a perfectly rational response to others. I certainly don't think the situation required hoarding (obviously as I created this thread), but in retrospect I should have panicked and hoarded goods I need just in response to other people's panic. By trying to be responsible and not panic I have now put myself at a disadvantage compared to everyone else that did panic. Hopefully the situation doesn't get any worse and I am able to find some toilet paper in the next couple of weeks. If see anything useful that I fear will be panic bought en mass I will be snatching it for sure and adding to panic buying
The more I think about it I don't think the panic buying and hoarding is a psychological response to help people feel in control. That may be true for a small minority, but I think the rest of it is a perfectly rational response to others. I certainly don't think the situation required hoarding (obviously as I created this thread), but in retrospect I should have panicked and hoarded goods I need just in response to other people's panic. By trying to be responsible and not panic I have now put myself at a disadvantage compared to everyone else that did panic. Hopefully the situation doesn't get any worse and I am able to find some toilet paper in the next couple of weeks. If see anything useful that I fear will be panic bought en mass I will be snatching it for sure and adding to panic buying
Personally, I wish i had some face masks and another bottle of hand sanitizer. I have never had masks, but now am mildly worried if I caught this, I wouldn’t have one to wear if I needed to go to the doctor. I have half a small pump bottle of hand sanitizer, and I realize it isn’t going to last very long. I keep baby wipes in my purse, as I am a compulsive hand washer in general, and always preferred a good scrub to using sanitizer but think I should be adding the hand sanitizer to the mix, but alas, the hoarders have ensure that I don’t have access to those things.
The more I think about it I don't think the panic buying and hoarding is a psychological response to help people feel in control. That may be true for a small minority, but I think the rest of it is a perfectly rational response to others. I certainly don't think the situation required hoarding (obviously as I created this thread), but in retrospect I should have panicked and hoarded goods I need just in response to other people's panic. By trying to be responsible and not panic I have now put myself at a disadvantage compared to everyone else that did panic. Hopefully the situation doesn't get any worse and I am able to find some toilet paper in the next couple of weeks. If see anything useful that I fear will be panic bought en mass I will be snatching it for sure and adding to panic buying
Personally, I wish i had some face masks and another bottle of hand sanitizer. I have never had masks, but now am mildly worried if I caught this, I wouldn’t have one to wear if I needed to go to the doctor. I have half a small pump bottle of hand sanitizer, and I realize it isn’t going to last very long. I keep baby wipes in my purse, as I am a compulsive hand washer in general, and always preferred a good scrub to using sanitizer but think I should be adding the hand sanitizer to the mix, but alas, the hoarders have ensure that I don’t have access to those things.
I am only mildly concerned about those two things, but it makes me angry that I can’t just have them.
I definitely keep a bit more than just 3-4 rolls, but I am now below my normal level. And I can't get any more. I haven't seen a roll of toilet paper for sale in weeks. All I see are empty shelves in every store.
It was exactly 1 week ago I last saw TP in the store, and it was fairly plentiful at the time. I didn't need any, but I went ahead and bought extra because I heard of shortages elsewhere. So, I now have 300 rolls (regular equivalent).
It was exactly 2 weeks ago I last saw hand sanitizer in the store. I bought two large bottles of it. I wish I had bought a couple more.
Congratulations on being part of the problem.
I definitely keep a bit more than just 3-4 rolls, but I am now below my normal level. And I can't get any more. I haven't seen a roll of toilet paper for sale in weeks. All I see are empty shelves in every store.
It was exactly 1 week ago I last saw TP in the store, and it was fairly plentiful at the time. I didn't need any, but I went ahead and bought extra because I heard of shortages elsewhere. So, I now have 300 rolls (regular equivalent).
It was exactly 2 weeks ago I last saw hand sanitizer in the store. I bought two large bottles of it. I wish I had bought a couple more.
Congratulations on being part of the problem.
I bought all but one of the packages back in January, not during the time when people were reporting TP shortages at stores.
I definitely keep a bit more than just 3-4 rolls, but I am now below my normal level. And I can't get any more. I haven't seen a roll of toilet paper for sale in weeks. All I see are empty shelves in every store.
It was exactly 1 week ago I last saw TP in the store, and it was fairly plentiful at the time. I didn't need any, but I went ahead and bought extra because I heard of shortages elsewhere. So, I now have 300 rolls (regular equivalent).
It was exactly 2 weeks ago I last saw hand sanitizer in the store. I bought two large bottles of it. I wish I had bought a couple more.
Congratulations on being part of the problem.
I bought all but one of the packages back in January, not during the time when people were reporting TP shortages at stores.
I mean, you are the textbook definition of why this is a problem.
Someone who has zero immediate need or even near term need to buy something buying it "just in case."
No wonder all the stores are out of TP.
I don't think so considering I last bought one package of TP over 2 weeks ago when there was still plenty in stock and nothing since.
I know a guy that went around buying TP and hand sanitizer and was selling it on eBay, until he received a warning.
It was exactly 1 week ago I last saw TP in the store, and it was fairly plentiful at the time. I didn't need any, but I went ahead and bought extra because I heard of shortages elsewhere. So, I now have 300 rolls (regular equivalent).
It was exactly 2 weeks ago I last saw hand sanitizer in the store. I bought two large bottles of it. I wish I had bought a couple more.
I don't think so considering I last bought one package of TP over 2 weeks ago when there was still plenty in stock and nothing since.
I know a guy that went around buying TP and hand sanitizer and was selling it on eBay, until he received a warning.
Huh, TIL that 8 days (exactly 1 week from yesterday) is "over 2 weeks ago."
TP update - operation shower head bidet is fully underway in our house!
Not even out of toilet paper yet, just feels cleaner. :P
One of my local stores has this sign up: 'Out Of TP, Still Have Cat Litter. U Know What To Do'
One of my local stores has this sign up: 'Out Of TP, Still Have Cat Litter. U Know What To Do'
Use the cat to wipe? :P
Preppers must be so happy right now.... their time has finally come!Except that their go-bags are useless when you are supposed to stay. But yes, they can finally rotate their lentil stock.
Hey everyone, you're doing it wrong! Your TP rolls will multiply if you just have enough faith. (Also, watch this Florida congregation for an outbreak source over the next 2 weeks.)
Conservative Pastor Who Refused to Close Church amid Coronavirus Pandemic Suggests God Will Help By Multiplying Toilet Rolls (https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-pastor-who-refused-close-church-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-suggests-god-will-help-1494903)
Hey everyone, you're doing it wrong! Your TP rolls will multiply if you just have enough faith. (Also, watch this Florida congregation for an outbreak source over the next 2 weeks.)
Conservative Pastor Who Refused to Close Church amid Coronavirus Pandemic Suggests God Will Help By Multiplying Toilet Rolls (https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-pastor-who-refused-close-church-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-suggests-god-will-help-1494903)
Oh my there are no words.
I still don't understand the initial run on TP,
All of the smaller markets near me have been well stocked. Only when I went to a big/chain grocery store last weekend did I see this issue. Maybe try your local corner market/bodega/ethnic grocery?
Our family of three used 1/3 of a roll of TP last week due to some sweeping bathroom changes that have been made.
:P
Our family of three used 1/3 of a roll of TP last week due to some sweeping bathroom changes that have been made.
:P
I guess your whole "jump directly into the shower" routine had worked out well for you guys then?
Our family of three used 1/3 of a roll of TP last week due to some sweeping bathroom changes that have been made.Seems wasteful to sweep the bathroom with TP not to mention the dust it would leave BEHIND... BUTT I guess that is your choice.
:P
Our family of three used 1/3 of a roll of TP last week due to some sweeping bathroom changes that have been made.Seems wasteful to sweep the bathroom with TP not to mention the dust it would leave BEHIND... BUTT I guess that is your choice.
:P
Hey everyone, you're doing it wrong! Your TP rolls will multiply if you just have enough faith. (Also, watch this Florida congregation for an outbreak source over the next 2 weeks.)
Conservative Pastor Who Refused to Close Church amid Coronavirus Pandemic Suggests God Will Help By Multiplying Toilet Rolls (https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-pastor-who-refused-close-church-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-suggests-god-will-help-1494903)
Hey everyone, you're doing it wrong! Your TP rolls will multiply if you just have enough faith. (Also, watch this Florida congregation for an outbreak source over the next 2 weeks.)
Conservative Pastor Who Refused to Close Church amid Coronavirus Pandemic Suggests God Will Help By Multiplying Toilet Rolls (https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-pastor-who-refused-close-church-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-suggests-god-will-help-1494903)
I read that he has been arrested for refusing to stop services.
Frugalnacho, that dog video cracked me up because my ex-roommates GR did that all the damn time. Drove me nuts, but maybe he was onto something. I will suggest it to the roommate because she’s very wasteful and will likely soon run out of TP!
I still don't understand the initial run on TP,
I don't either but I suspect it had something to do with a fake Facebook account created by a Russian hacker in the basement of the Kremlin. They are probably laughing hysterically at our panicked toilet paper buying and wondering how they can apply that to something more meaningful in the future.
Hey everyone, you're doing it wrong! Your TP rolls will multiply if you just have enough faith. (Also, watch this Florida congregation for an outbreak source over the next 2 weeks.)
Conservative Pastor Who Refused to Close Church amid Coronavirus Pandemic Suggests God Will Help By Multiplying Toilet Rolls (https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-pastor-who-refused-close-church-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-suggests-god-will-help-1494903)
I read that he has been arrested for refusing to stop services.
Frugalnacho, that dog video cracked me up because my ex-roommates GR did that all the damn time. Drove me nuts, but maybe he was onto something. I will suggest it to the roommate because she’s very wasteful and will likely soon run out of TP!
Usually dogs do that when they need their anal glands expressed. If your dog is doing that (and you're not in the middle of the covid apocalypse) take it to the vet.
Our local grocery store today had two enormous mounts of toilet paper. This is one of them.
Went to BJ's today right after they opened and managed to snag a big 36 roll package of toilet paper.
Black Sabbath's War Pigs lyrics seem appropriate here:
People huddled in their masses
No toilet paper for their asses
Death and hatred to hoarding kind
For some eggs I cannot find
Thought this article was interesting. The shortage may simply be due to so many people not using the bathroom at work.
https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0 (https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0)
Thought this article was interesting. The shortage may simply be due to so many people not using the bathroom at work.
https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0 (https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0)
Why aren't they selling the commercial toilet paper then? They are just letting the commercial TP pile up while stores across the country are consistently sold out and people legitimately don't have TP to the point they are using rags and old shirts and creating huge problems for water departments across the country? That makes no sense.
I know commercial TP exists and I've encountered it numerous times, but the overwhelming majority of businesses I've been in us the exact same TP as residential.
ETA: I would have purchased commercial rolls just to have some if it was available. I went to 3 stores in 2 days during the middle of a pandemic when I'd prefer to go zero times all to try and find toilet paper.
Around here commercial TP is about 16" in diameter. Not gonna fit on your household roll.
Thought this article was interesting. The shortage may simply be due to so many people not using the bathroom at work.
https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0 (https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0)
Why aren't they selling the commercial toilet paper then? They are just letting the commercial TP pile up while stores across the country are consistently sold out and people legitimately don't have TP to the point they are using rags and old shirts and creating huge problems for water departments across the country? That makes no sense.
I know commercial TP exists and I've encountered it numerous times, but the overwhelming majority of businesses I've been in us the exact same TP as residential.
ETA: I would have purchased commercial rolls just to have some if it was available. I went to 3 stores in 2 days during the middle of a pandemic when I'd prefer to go zero times all to try and find toilet paper.
Around here commercial TP is about 16" in diameter. Not gonna fit on your household roll.
Thought this article was interesting. The shortage may simply be due to so many people not using the bathroom at work.
https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0 (https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0)
Why aren't they selling the commercial toilet paper then? They are just letting the commercial TP pile up while stores across the country are consistently sold out and people legitimately don't have TP to the point they are using rags and old shirts and creating huge problems for water departments across the country? That makes no sense.
If it get that bad then just do your business and take a shower to rinse off down there. I'm looking pretty smart for my 90 roll purchase last month. But again, with IBS I'm using the toilet 3-5 times a day so having no TP is high anxiety.
Yeah. It's not so simple. The article did a good job of explaining the difficulties. I had never even thought about the fact that the demand for toilet paper is so inelastic that the producers have never had to worry about quickly increasing output.Thought this article was interesting. The shortage may simply be due to so many people not using the bathroom at work.
https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0 (https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0)
Why aren't they selling the commercial toilet paper then? They are just letting the commercial TP pile up while stores across the country are consistently sold out and people legitimately don't have TP to the point they are using rags and old shirts and creating huge problems for water departments across the country? That makes no sense.
According to the article, the commercial TP producers would have to establish all new retail relationships and shipping logistic systems to get their product in to retail stores which would cost a lot of money for a low margin business.
If it get that bad then just do your business and take a shower to rinse off down there. I'm looking pretty smart for my 90 roll purchase last month. But again, with IBS I'm using the toilet 3-5 times a day so having no TP is high anxiety.
I've now said this multiple times, but why not order a bidet?
If it get that bad then just do your business and take a shower to rinse off down there. I'm looking pretty smart for my 90 roll purchase last month. But again, with IBS I'm using the toilet 3-5 times a day so having no TP is high anxiety.
I've now said this multiple times, but why not order a bidet?
Yes for sure, my comment was more along the lines for those who are stuck with whatever they already got.