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What is the pecking order where you work?
« on: March 31, 2016, 06:31:33 PM »
Most companies have pecking orders.   What role is at the top of the pecking order in your company? 

At my current role, engineers are top dogs.  All engineers are roughly equal, and all other roles are far far beneath them, but there’s no real pecking order other than top and bottom.   

At a previous job, the pecking order went more like:
Sales
Product / Marketing Managers
anybody else
Software Developers
customer support

What is the pecking order where you work?  Are people in upper/lower classes treated differently?

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2016, 06:43:53 PM »
I haven't noticed one, but I also avoid workplace gossip.

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2016, 06:44:48 PM »
What the heck? I suspect a lot of this is in your head. 

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 06:56:16 PM »
I work in an international law firm, it is very hierarchical. 

Managing Partner
Partners who are Heads of Groups
Partners (in order of seniority)
Counsel
Associates (in order of seniority, ~1-10 years of experience)
Professional Staff
Paralegals

Assistants
Reception Staff
Security
Food Staff
Etc.

In the italicized group, anyone above you more or less owns you.  the other folks are sort of tangential to the business, but have no interaction with clients and are thus sort of outside the hierarchy (though observant of it).

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2016, 07:06:05 PM »
no, it's not in my head, but thank you for that.
Where I work now, only engineers are hired as FT employees and almost everyone else is contract.  There are a few non-engineer positions that have to be employee, but they are very few. 

In previous role, the sales teams brought in all the money and the president of the company rose from the sales ranks.  They seemed to be afraid of the software developers and often made jokes about "locking them behind closed doors and throwing raw meat in every once in a while".  It was quite strange. 

If you haven't noticed that people from the mail room are never invited to dine with the President of the company, then you're missing some important social clues. 


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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 08:11:37 PM »
I work in an international law firm, it is very hierarchical. 

Managing Partner
Partners who are Heads of Groups
Partners (in order of seniority)
Counsel
Associates (in order of seniority, ~1-10 years of experience)
Professional Staff
Paralegals

Assistants
Reception Staff
Security
Food Staff
Etc.

In the italicized group, anyone above you more or less owns you.  the other folks are sort of tangential to the business, but have no interaction with clients and are thus sort of outside the hierarchy (though observant of it).

Wow, that's exactly like the international law firm I work for! And I'm right around the bottom... Oh well. Only eight more years to go.

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2016, 08:16:21 PM »
CPA firms are kinda like the law firms in my experience.

Where I am currently, there's so many different areas that I'm not aware of a true pecking order. The execs are at the top, the usual suspects are at the bottom (janitors, etc), but other than that, it's too mixed from what I can tell. And I'm in internal audit, so I interact with almost every area.

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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2016, 10:27:36 PM »
Director (FT salary)
Clerks/Associates w/specific area (Local Historian, IT Specialist) (part-time, hourly)
Clerks/Subs (very part-time, hourly)
Cleaning lady (hourly, 2 hrs/wk)

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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 11:07:15 PM »
no, it's not in my head, but thank you for that.
Where I work now, only engineers are hired as FT employees and almost everyone else is contract.  There are a few non-engineer positions that have to be employee, but they are very few. 

In previous role, the sales teams brought in all the money and the president of the company rose from the sales ranks.  They seemed to be afraid of the software developers and often made jokes about "locking them behind closed doors and throwing raw meat in every once in a while".  It was quite strange. 

If you haven't noticed that people from the mail room are never invited to dine with the President of the company, then you're missing some important social clues.

Your company has a mail room?

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2016, 04:43:24 AM »


If you haven't noticed that people from the mail room are never invited to dine with the President of the company, then you're missing some important social clues.

Your company has a mail room?

:)
Every company I've ever worked in has had one.  Samples get shipped, literature used to be shipped, but prob doesn't anymore. Product gets shipped, but that might not either anymore either. I worked in the mailroom in my first high school job. It sucked.

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2016, 05:17:27 AM »
The principal investigators (PhD scientists) and clinical monitors definitely are the top dogs but that's not surprising as they get billed at the highest rates and make us the most $.

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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2016, 05:18:47 AM »

In previous role, the sales teams brought in all the money and the president of the company rose from the sales ranks.  They seemed to be afraid of the software developers and often made jokes about "locking them behind closed doors and throwing raw meat in every once in a while".  It was quite strange. 
I don't see this as a pecking order so much as culture clash. People in sales tend to be extroverted with lots of emotional intelligence, software engineers are introverted with lots of technical intelligence. They use different jargon, wear different clothing styles, tell different jokes, have different values, etc. I bet the software developers had their own jabs to aim at the sales folks, like referring to them as "suits" instead of people.

If you haven't noticed that people from the mail room are never invited to dine with the President of the company, then you're missing some important social clues.
I enjoy dining with the VP and Sr Medical Dir where I work, but only because I like and respect them as people. Not because I'm trying to climb some pecking order. If the cleaning lady has a good personality I'll sit and eat with her just as happily. If the VP was an asshole I would avoid him.

To me this is one of the biggest perks of FI and it's associated FU funds. FI lets you step outside of the pecking order and see people for who and what they are, FU funds give you the confidence necessary to confront jerks wherever they are in the hierarchy.

***UPDATE***
in summary, here is my perception of the pecking order where I work:

at the top: Me
next: co workers I like
next: co workers I can tolerate
bottom: everyone else
« Last Edit: April 01, 2016, 06:59:40 AM by Parizade »

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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2016, 05:54:30 AM »
I'm lucky to work for a company where a lot of people agree that there is no perceived pecking order. At different times, different departments have more responsibility than others. Because of the type of business we are and the markets we are in, the supply chain as a whole is given more responsibility and is much more accountable for delivering results than other departments - that though is likely true of any manufacturing company.

Most, if not all projects, are cross-functional across the business and each department's opinion/needs are respected as much as the next when working of common goals.

Despite all this, I know a few people who, for whatever reason, feel that the world is out to get them and like to blame other people/groups for wrongdoings against them. Luckily, as of late, those types of people have not been sticking around.


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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2016, 05:58:48 AM »
CEO
Executives
VPs
Directors
Managers
Team Leads (optional)
Salaried employees
Hourly employees (and by this, i mean customer service reps)

Typical corporate hierarchy i would think. Customer Service is treated the worst, unfortunately.

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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2016, 06:18:34 AM »

In previous role, the sales teams brought in all the money and the president of the company rose from the sales ranks.  They seemed to be afraid of the software developers and often made jokes about "locking them behind closed doors and throwing raw meat in every once in a while".  It was quite strange. 

The jokes back where I used to be referred to the software developers as the people you'd close the door behind and slide hot pockets under the doors. 

Afraid? No.  Terrible stereotype based on a small portion of the group? Oh hell yeah.

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2016, 06:34:04 AM »
Oh and to the OP's original question, in most organizations, the social pecking order is typically based on if you are part of the revenue generating process or if you are overhead. 

People involved in the production and sales of a product > cost centers. 

Example 1: software company.  Software developer > sales person > accountant/hr

Example 2: CPA firm (or other professional service firm) accountant who can sell > accountant  > admin

Example 3: widget manufacturer sales > production > those damn accountants/hr/admin/it



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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2016, 06:37:35 AM »
I work in County/City Government. It goes like this:

County/City Manager
Mayor
Department heads
Worker ants
Admin assistants
Janitorial staff
Mayor's dog
Me
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2016, 06:45:45 AM »
I am a self employed consultant, so I get to see quite a lot of this at the companies I am hired by. As with most consultants, we are valued highly for our short tenure, so we get to see the most powerful people in the hierarchy and how they value the contributions of various teams within the organizations. The team lead of customer service is rarely valued as highly as the team lead in software dev. The head doctor has more sway than the head nurse.  The chief of homicide has more respect than the chief of auto theft. The team lead on one product team might be more influential than the same position on another product team.
These differences can sometimes be attributed to the company org chart, but not always. Orgs that are equal on an org chart are valued much differently in the C-suite. Sometimes it appears to be based on education level or intelligence of the people, sometimes whether the organization is a cost center or profit center, and sometimes there is a natural leader in one of the roles and that makes that org shine more.
Anybody over 35 must remember the days when IT was called DP and when they were rarely understood or appreciated. I can remember in the 90's when C-levels first started having meeting about "we have to start understanding info tech". It was a complete revolution and so different from anything they had dealt with before --even at IBM.  There were entire companies invented to help other companies deal with their own technical folks, because they'd never had to make them happy or compete for IT resources before.

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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2016, 06:50:05 AM »
This is a big problem in many companies, and it really sucks.  Our company is a tech company that is very sales driven and it is starting to show.

Pecking order: 
CEO
VPS
Sales
Marketing
.......
Software
Hardware
Chemistry/Materials (me)
....
Production

Sales is absolutely king here.  They are on a commission structure and they are heavily incentivised and valued.  They have quarterly sales meetings with metrics.  We have a weekly email that goes out naming the top sales people for the week.  Everything in this company is framed around sales, sales, sales. 

Marketing is the next best to be here.  They dictate all the product requirements for their markets and technical departments are basically expected to make it work no matter what. 

The technical people (me) are in the middle.  On the one hand, no one, including our CEO, has any true understanding of the technology behind what we make here which is a blessing and a curse.  We don't get micromanaged.  Our CTO is new and is still getting up to speed.  But we have zero power to make any real decisions to to tell sales when something won't work.  What sales says, goes.  Sales people have direct authority to go to the engineers in the technical department to bother them at any time, which means that we end up doing more fire fighting and less innovating.  The real key to understanding our lack of power is the fact that we have to get any expenditure above $250 approved, not by the CTO, but by the CEO himself.  Our CTO has literally NO discretionary budget to speak of and so is powerless to make decisions. 

But we still have it better than production.  Our CEO comes down to the production department about once every 6 months to make a big speech and that is about it.  Because our feedback emails are strictly sales focused, the production department could be working their ass off and they get no recognition for it.  They are incredibly short staffed, and much of the electronics assembly work requires skilled labor, but they keep replacing production techs with temps who don't have any training at all. 

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2016, 06:54:10 AM »
- A truly gigantic bunch of people I don't give a shit about who occasionally send me useless emails
- My director of the engineering department (see once or twice a year)
- My group leader (see daily)
- Me . . . who does all the work

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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2016, 07:12:41 AM »
Never noticed any of this- but I work in a satellite office. My company seems really good at valuing everyone.
Sometimes they forget about the satellite office and just mention the main office and the regional offices (there is somehow a difference between regional and satellite, I don't understand it) but that has happened less lately, and it didn't really matter. Actually now that our satellite is so big, the people who work in our department, but in the main location, often seem to be forgotten.


My previous job the developers got paid way less than the sales/marketing/ops/everyone else people. Pissed a lot of us off, because without us they wouldn't have had anything to sell! The company seemed to always take that for granted.

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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2016, 07:24:54 AM »
Having spent much time in the mailing industry, the folks there prefer it when where they work out of is called the Mail Center, not mailroom.  The managers of these operations actually have professional certification credentials and are meeting next week in Philadelphia at MailCom.

Look down your nose at them if you choose, but I have seen the all day test they take and I know I couldn't do it.  Since they work in a receiving position, they are also the first to deal with letter bombs and "anthrax" pranks sent by the very customers your company have pissed off in the past!

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2016, 08:12:20 AM »
I recently changed jobs to a small tech company, so the pecking order is pretty basic:
1. C-suites (who are all co-owners/associates) - there are 4 of them
2. Everyone else (me - the only comm/marketing person, as well as all the developers, designers, customer happiness support people). There are 9 of us.

It's pretty basic and it makes sense to me in general. Perhaps over time I'll find more subtleties, but at the moment this is what I see.

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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2016, 08:16:37 AM »
Our little (~$3.5B) company inside giant MegaCorp is a technology/engineering company, but it's also run largely by us finance dweebs.  Basically, everyone in a leadership position came up through the ranks as an engineer, or is a finance dweeb.  Even our sales people are largely engineers.  So it's probably 60% Engineering/40% Finance lead, and no one else gets much say.

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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2016, 08:39:20 AM »
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At my current role, engineers are top dogs.  All engineers are roughly equal, and all other roles are far far beneath them, but there’s no real pecking order other than top and bottom.   

Where do you work? Because, seriously, I need to go there. Generally speaking there is some moronic semi-intelligent... umm... person... working in project management, product management, or some other equally useless position who gives the orders. Engineers just do what their dumbass customers and the person specified previously tell them, which generally goes against all logic and convention.

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« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2016, 08:41:26 AM »
Having spent much time in the mailing industry, the folks there prefer it when where they work out of is called the Mail Center, not mailroom.  The managers of these operations actually have professional certification credentials and are meeting next week in Philadelphia at MailCom.

Look down your nose at them if you choose, but I have seen the all day test they take and I know I couldn't do it.  Since they work in a receiving position, they are also the first to deal with letter bombs and "anthrax" pranks sent by the very customers your company have pissed off in the past!
No offense intended Capsu.  I worked in a mailroom (that's what it was called where I worked in the 1980s).  We mailed out hardware samples and literature and regular envelopes too.  We had sponges with water so we didn't have to lick the envelopes.  We used paper rolls of packing tape that had to be wet with sponges to activate the glue.  We had our own UPS book with carbon paper and we had to fill it out every day to list all the packages going out.  There were only two of us:  one college student, and one high-school student (me).  I had papercuts all.the.time.  Things were dirty back there, so I didn't have to dress up, but back then, I desperately wanted to be in a job where I had to wear a suit. 

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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2016, 09:00:29 AM »
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At my current role, engineers are top dogs.  All engineers are roughly equal, and all other roles are far far beneath them, but there’s no real pecking order other than top and bottom.   

Where do you work? Because, seriously, I need to go there. Generally speaking there is some moronic semi-intelligent... umm... person... working in project management, product management, or some other equally useless position who gives the orders. Engineers just do what their dumbass customers and the person specified previously tell them, which generally goes against all logic and convention.
The grass is always greener!  I'm currently at a scientific research facility.  Imagine a very flat organization.  Like two levels.  Then imagine that on each project, a different PM is chosen.  So for a year or two, you may be assigned to a project where your co-worker is the PM.  On the next program, the roles might be reversed.  It sounds like an opportunity for teamwork and collaboration, right?  Not always.  Just because someone is technically astute and wrote a successful grant proposal, doesn't mean they're cut out for managing or leading or that they have business acumen.  And sometimes you just want someone to make a decision and have everyone follow it.  This is more like herding cats! 

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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2016, 09:09:54 AM »
I work at a smaller University with three campuses.

President
VP Brass - CFO, Attorney, HR Director
Tie between Professors and Students
Tie between Facilities and Security
Administrative staff
Cleaning people

I am in the admin group. We have no representation at meetings or a voice in management. We are in the minority. Professors are well paid and tend to "forget" the rest of us live on lesser salaries. There is definitely a ranking and it's no fun.

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2016, 09:18:09 AM »
Can't say for sure.

All I know is, I've got these peck marks all over...

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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2016, 09:23:06 AM »
Can't say for sure.

All I know is, I've got these peck marks all over...

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2016, 09:55:54 AM »
CEO(Never interact with)
VPs(Interact with couple times a month)
Regional Manager
Branch Manager
Bail Agent(Me)
Admin
Posting Agent

Luckily I work in a very respectful environment where nobody seems to be looked down upon and senior members seem quick to help. Standard practice is if a posting agent does something to make me money I buy them lunch.

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2016, 10:05:15 AM »
Usually seems to be:

C level
Profit Centers
Cost Centers

If sales and tech are both profit centers, sometimes dev is higher up in the food chain and sometimes sale is. Support is basically always at the bottom.
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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2016, 07:47:19 AM »
***UPDATE***
in summary, here is my perception of the pecking order where I work:

at the top: Me
next: co workers I like
next: co workers I can tolerate
bottom: everyone else

Best pecking order ever. I'm making this my new mental pecking order. Thank you for this.

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« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2016, 01:43:32 PM »
My wife and I share the spot at the top.

The baby is next.

Though sometimes it seems like she's the boss.
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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2016, 03:23:18 PM »
Hmm...

CEO
CTO
President
VP Engineering/ VP Ops/ Sales & Marketing
Ass-kisser director who throws everyone under the bus.
Director of special projects
All other directors
Engineers
Technicians

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2016, 03:50:29 PM »
It's really easy where I work
The general is at the top
The airmen are at the bottom
I'm somewhere in the upper half
And alongside us all are a plethora of insufferable civil servants who think they control all the military people, but will back down if you talk to them assertively

Ahh, defense acquisitions

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2016, 12:02:17 AM »
Pretty standard non-profit service agency where I work.

CEO
Directors
Everyone Else in the office including reception
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.A vast and uncrossable chasm
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Site Managers
Minions who actually do the work and have all of the responsibility

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2016, 09:21:21 AM »
I work for a big multi-national organization based in a foreign country. These guys always assume the Americans are fucking up/cheating/stealing/lazy and they love to beat up on us.

Pecking order for us is mainly upper management shitting on their employees for one sector of the economy tanking by refusing to issue raises this year. Then demanding more efficient work. Good luck with that one.

After that comes safety/EHS+S, they are wrecking balls justifying their existence by making your life more complicated  (I mean 'safe'). What warms my heart is the fact that our safety audit was cancelled this year because our EHS+S inspector was foreign born (same country our multi-national corporation is based out of) and isnt allowed on our customer's property. Allowing foreigners on site wasnt 'safe'. I cackled out loud like a witch when I heard that.

Come to think of it, our customer is always #1, and Id hate to get on their bad side, I would end up like our safety inspector being refused access to my workplace. They are top dog for sure.
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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2016, 09:38:48 AM »
My wife and I share the spot at the top.

The baby is next.

Though sometimes it seems like she's the boss.

At home it's

Wife/Daughter




Dog


Me

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2016, 04:12:53 AM »
I work in an international law firm, it is very hierarchical. 

Managing Partner
Partners who are Heads of Groups
Partners (in order of seniority)
Counsel
Associates (in order of seniority, ~1-10 years of experience)
Professional Staff
Paralegals

Assistants
Reception Staff
Security
Food Staff
Etc.

In the italicized group, anyone above you more or less owns you.  the other folks are sort of tangential to the business, but have no interaction with clients and are thus sort of outside the hierarchy (though observant of it).

Wow, that's exactly like the international law firm I work for! And I'm right around the bottom... Oh well. Only eight more years to go.

My first firm (NYC based) was very hierarchical like that.  Moved to CA and it was very different (for the better). 

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2016, 05:03:23 AM »
State government worker...

Governor
Agency Director
Deputy Directors
Me

Of course, there are lots of layers in there. And yes, we have lots of mailrooms!

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2016, 06:08:01 AM »
I often say that IT are the janitors of the office world. We are a cost center so right from the start we are not treated as well as the people from sales.

Is there a place somewhere that IT is viewed as the lifeblood of the company? Maybe not IT by itself but Apple did very well putting emphasis on design and technology; marketing played a large role too but would be useless without the product.

Where would be google without good IT workers?

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2016, 11:41:25 AM »
All professional service consulting businesses are very hierarchical, even the ones that pretend to have a flat structure. It's sort of the name of the game when your worth to the company is determined by your billable hours. I work for an engineering firm too and we look like this:

Corporate
Project Managers
Technical staff (engineers, scientists, etc)
Admin

I'm marketing, which puts me in that bottom rung. My only potential to climb this ladder is to convince the planning group I know enough for them to take me in or to wait 20 years (much longer than I plan on working!) and see if I can make a play for Chief Marketing Officer to rocket to the top.

Basically if I stay in this career, I will spend the next 13 years, 9 months as I have the previous 7 years of my career... being someone's bitch.

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2016, 07:09:52 PM »

 The administrative assistants who actually run the place


College president


Vice presidents


Deans


Department chairs and  program directors


Faculty and professional staff


Janitors, landscapers,  etc.


Student workers

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2016, 08:09:50 PM »
I often say that IT are the janitors of the office world. We are a cost center so right from the start we are not treated as well as the people from sales.

Is there a place somewhere that IT is viewed as the lifeblood of the company? Maybe not IT by itself but Apple did very well putting emphasis on design and technology; marketing played a large role too but would be useless without the product.

Where would be google without good IT workers?

I'm in IT (datacenter/infrastructure) in broadcast television - we're treated pretty well. Then again..without our gear, we wouldn't be able to put new content on the air. :P

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2016, 06:35:26 AM »
This thread kinda makes me want to make up a list of fancy titles for myself. "Chief Thermostat Operator", "Senior Entertainment Coordinator", "Head Purchasing Officer", "Remote Control Specialist", "Executive Guitar Technician" or "Master Treasury Advisor".

And then I imagine the reaction to the list of job duties that would be drawn up for significant others, aka "Part-Time Entertainment Consultants"...

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Re: What is the pecking order where you work?
« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2016, 06:42:35 AM »
Here's my experience in the military.  The non-Infantry may have other opinions:

Infantry
Those who give the Infantry food or ammo (we like them)
Everyone else
Air Force