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Title: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: EXLIer on March 07, 2016, 06:35:49 AM
Just curious. 

Our combined incomes are roughly $180K, and I budget $1,200/mo ( $14,400/yr ) for travel. 

We're a family of 4, take roughly 3 domestic and 1 international trips per year. 

It's excessive, but we moved away from family and we like to visit.  We're also dual citizens and enjoy going back to Europe every year to visit family. 

Other than that, there are no beach or destination vacations - everything is for visiting family.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Rural on March 07, 2016, 07:02:10 AM
No budget; gasoline for various family visits and day trips a couple times a year comes from monthly cash flow. That's all we do, though I have to travel for work a bit, and he went to an overnight bachelors party a few years back (rented a cabin and played D&D all night, those wild and crazy boys).
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: use2betrix on March 07, 2016, 07:09:16 AM
I don't have one. Things come up and I attend what seems reasonable at the time. My sisters getting married soon (1500 miles away) and a very close friend is getting married a few weeks after (1800 miles away). I also have a class reunion is like to attend this year (1500 miles away). All of these will be more like 3 day weekends and the majority of the costs covered by credit card rewards.

Other than that, vacations happen when I'm able to make it happen with work. If I seem like I'll have a slow period I'll plan a vacation, or try to. Some years I travel more than others.

If I stuck to a xx amount every single year I may try to force trips when they aren't as practical or miss perfect times for good vacations because it's not "in my budget."

I'm like this for most things really. If you can have the self control not to be unreasonable with spending, budgets can be a big unnecessary inconvenience.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Lucky Girl on March 07, 2016, 07:13:57 AM
And I thought our travel budget was high!  We add $10k to our vacation budget from DH's bonus every year.  We are a family of four, and most of our travel is family, but we usually take one trip to a moderate hotel on a beach per year.  Family lives all across the country and across the Atlantic, but we have not purchased flights to Europe since the kids were born.  When we do, our budget will probably be $14k!

As other posters have noted, we don't believe firmly in the "budget" for travel.  We add to the amount every year, but are willing to go over budget or under as needed when travel arises.  Travel is a priority for our family, and we have the resources to have that high of a budget and still save 40-50% of income.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: chubbybunny on March 07, 2016, 07:15:53 AM
I think we are very successful on our path to FIRE, but travel is an area that we am willing to spend on.  When I think of early retirement, I imagine long trips that could take months (where as now I'm limited to 1-2 weeks at a time).

I don't want to wait until I retire to have those experiences, so we spend the money.  Our income is about $165k and last year we spent about $5400 on travel.  This year will be more.  ($1200 each in the last few months, but we purchased plane tickets).  We have a beach trip planned for April, an international trip planned in June, and a week in Orlando in September.  I've thought about getting an RV so we can take more last minute trips, but it always seems cheaper to just pay for hotels and restaurants. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: asauer on March 07, 2016, 07:17:50 AM
Right now it's 6k per year for the four of us.  Pays for a long weekend every month or so.  When we're done with the mortgage, it will go up to 8k because travelling is our "thing", it's a priority.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Philociraptor on March 07, 2016, 07:23:01 AM
No budget here, but if I look in Mint it tells me that we've (we = wife and me) averaged $248/mo (around $3k/year) on travel-related expenses since February of 2012. The amount spent appears to be trickling up each year.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: GuitarStv on March 07, 2016, 07:26:18 AM
We spend a couple hundred dollars a year on gas for travel.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: 2Birds1Stone on March 07, 2016, 07:26:35 AM
Travel is one of those things we value spending our money on. I budget 1 international trip every other year, and 4-6 long weekend trips throughout the year around the US. We also do a lot of motorcycle trips, both day trips and overnight.

Spend about $5000/yr for two people. This is only 5-7% of our net income. Thank you travel hacking :)
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: rubybeth on March 07, 2016, 09:07:39 AM
We like to travel, as well, but do one really local vacation annually that costs virtually nothing (stay with family), and plan to take either one domestic trip (US) annually, or one international trip every two or three years. Domestic trips have run us between $1,500-$2,500, depending on the destination and length of stay. International we've spent about $4,000-$5,000 for two people on each trip so far. We've agreed to live near family so we aren't spending our vacation time/travel budget to visit. Our incomes are much lower than the OPs, though.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: mm1970 on March 07, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
We don't really have a budget.  Our income is around $260k per year, family of 4.

Last year, following trips: ~$1400
1.  2 days camping in the desert, 2 days Palm Springs -~$400
2.  2 weeks visiting family on the opposite coast (used miles for tickets, plus train in between) ~$800 (included a last minute stay in a hotel due to flight delays)
3.  1 week visiting national parks in Utah (didn't happen, we got the stomach flu, only made one night in Las Vegas and went home): $170


This year: $4300 +
1.  Legoland: $700 (2 nights in a hotel, one day at park, family of 4 + MIL)
2.  That Utah trip (we were able to transfer our reservation for a small amount of money) $1200 (mostly Air-BNB, but also gas)
3.  Trip back East (my niece is graduating): $2000 (this is an estimate, haven't bought tickets yet)
4.  Trip to get my kid (we are leaving him back east for a couple of extra weeks after the graduation): $400
5.  Maybe some place over Thanksgiving.


So, I'd say in the last few years, $5k would be a high year.  Prior to having kid #2, we would spend more.  One year we went to Hawaii ($4k spring break), DC (oh wait, that was on miles), and at least one other place.  So maybe $7k.

Traveling with an infant sucks when you have another kid (wasn't so bad when there was only one of them), and it's not much better with a 3 year old.  In general, since kid #2, we've been on the "1 flight per year" path.  But we are breaking that this year.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Roboturner on March 07, 2016, 01:16:42 PM
in the middle of the obligatory 5 year slog of rapid-fire weddings.

All the vacation hours are being donated!
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: steveo on March 07, 2016, 02:12:52 PM
My budget is pretty excessive - $0.

When we are on holidays we may spend a little more based on possibly eating out once or twice or going to see a movie or fixing something in the house. We will stay at home though.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: I'm a red panda on March 07, 2016, 02:27:51 PM
We don't have a budget. We spend what we spend.

We probably take 1-2 domestic trip each year, and also 1 international trip every other year. 

It's rare that a domestic trip costs more than $300 (driving to see family). It's rare that an international trip costs more than $3,000.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Papa Mustache on March 07, 2016, 02:37:25 PM
We spent about $2K last year for a beach trip. Condo rental, some eating out, some fun stuff for the kids, groceries and gas money. Honestly it was a deluxe trip by our measure.

We can do that every year and not be financially hurt by that.

Want to do a big trip back to Europe were I lived years ago. bring the family along of course. That would be $15K as far as I can estimate. We could do that now too but am not motivated to spend like that at this time.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: celticmyst08 on March 07, 2016, 03:09:53 PM
$200/month. We try to use award points/miles for most of our airfare and lodging if possible, which saves a ton of money. We aren't spending $2400/year on travel, though, it's partly saving up for when we do a bigger international trip.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: FiguringItOut on March 07, 2016, 03:14:35 PM
Hard to say.

I have a trip this summer, 2 weeks in Europe, 2 people.  I expect it to be completely covered by travel/cash awards.  This includes flights, hotels, other transportation, food, all other costs like museum fees, etc. 

A 5-8 day roadtrip I'm planning in late summer I think will run me $800-$1200 (first rough estimate).  If I will have any cash rewards left over after trip to Europe (doubtfull!), I'll use to cover part of the cost.

Also have $800 set aside for two kids to fly to Florida for 2 weeks. Unaccompanied minor fees are killing me ($400 flights + $400 in minor fees), but not much I can do at this point.  It will be few more years before we can stop paying unaccompanied minor fees.  This is pretty much an annual expense, though last year my parents paid half of it.  This year it's all on me.  I budget for full cost since I don't want to be counting on something that is not certain and certainly not expected.

Summer 2017 trip is not planned or scheduled yet, but with destination set to Iceland, which is notorious for not being award friendly, I will need to price it and then budget for the trip.

I should have sufficient amount of rewards left to cover some portion of summer 2018 trip, whatever that may be. I should at least be able to cover flights and portion of the lodging, if nothing else.  I'll worry about that sometime in 2017. 

Any long weekend trip that may happen in the near future will be out of pocket since I will be saving my existing rewards for bigger trips in the next 2 years.  My problem with long weekend trips is that I don't have a car and I haven't completely figured out car rental/insurance costs as I've been without a car only for about 6 months now. 

I'm also taking a break from credit card travel awards for about 2 years.  Seems that I've reached saturation point with that. 



Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Abe on March 07, 2016, 09:21:15 PM
We spend <$2k per year on a one week trip to a national park. Most of that is airfare and lodging. Everything else is pretty cheap, especially compared to visiting a big city. Rest of vacation time is spent at home, relatives visiting us or vice-versa.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Pigeon on March 07, 2016, 11:06:28 PM
We spend about $1500 every other year or so to rent a house on a lake.

We also go to family weddings when they happen.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: yakamashii on March 07, 2016, 11:14:43 PM
We're trying $600/month on for size this year. Not really a budget (we've spent a whopping $120 of the $1,400 or so "available" to us to date); it's our estimate based on where we've gone the past couple years, where we're planning on going this year and how much it looks to cost in light of how we've changed the way we travel.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Urchina on March 07, 2016, 11:18:38 PM
We cash-flow the vast majority of our travel, which is primarily to visit family and/or attend weddings (we have a standing family reunion with spouse's family every summer, and one every other summer with my extended clan). These are pretty cheap -- we camp for them! -- so they're barely a blip on the radar.

We're planning on taking bigger international trips every four years or so. We took the kids to Europe for two weeks a couple of years ago, and want to take them to Iceland in another couple of years. We save up for these and pay cash; each trip costs about $8 - $10k or so, mostly in airfare and lodgings (we rent apartments or cottages and self-cater).

Our travel-limiting factor, to be honest, is vacation. DH only gets 15 days a year; I teach and work for the county and the summer is my high season at work, so getting away is tough. We prioritize family gatherings, so finding time for these bigger trips is the real challenge.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Mattzlaff on March 08, 2016, 01:38:29 AM
I don't budget for trips. I always talk about trips with my friends (Germany for beer fest, mexico for spring break) but talk is all it ever ends up being no one commits to a plan and everyone wants their optimal time line/cost which makes things difficult. It's difficult because at my age group, most of my friends from school found dead end jobs they can't leave or face going broke or they are in school and can't afford it.

I have been to Mexico a couple times once for about 900$ for a week and the other for 1700$
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: gimp on March 08, 2016, 03:13:35 AM
I sort of budget... last year I spent ~a thousand bucks to fly my parents to where I live, and about half that to drive the american southwest, and a few hundred more to do the pacific northwest.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Ozstache on March 08, 2016, 03:41:30 AM
I'm in my early years of FIRE, so travel represented about 25% of my spend last year. This year's travel budget is a more modest 14%.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: chemistk on March 08, 2016, 05:44:39 AM
Right now our travel budget is low - somewhere around $1500 a year. We almost exclusively drive everywhere we go and it's almost always to visit family (where we have free food and lodging). I think there have been only a couple times in the past few years (honeymoon excluded, though even that was only ~$2,000) where my wife and I have gone somewhere other than to visit family.  Down the road we hope to do more traveling, especially internationally but it's really challenging when you have family in more than a dozen states and a finite number of vacation days to work with per year.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: plainjane on March 08, 2016, 06:00:11 AM
Our travel budget is $600/month for two adults.  This covers an international trip every other year to see family on the other side of the world.  On alternating years we may do another international trip, or a few smaller trips to make sure we have money for the family trip.  We don't usually spend to that amount, but fluctuating exchange rates and inconsistent plane tickets have made us happy we have it.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: EXLIer on March 08, 2016, 06:17:13 AM
Thanks for the replies everyone!

Yes, ours it rather high.  At $600 a r/t for a domestic flight, and $1,500 a r/t to get to Europe, it adds up. 

We've actually considered relocating to the east coast to be close to family mainly but also eliminate this rather costly expense ( along with the time and stress of traveling with 2 kids, and leaving a cat & dog behind ) but always scratch the idea.  It would really, from a financial standpoint, be a major setback. 

Hopefully I can get a set of free domestic r/t tickets with miles accrued on my AA card from purchases. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: rubybeth on March 08, 2016, 06:37:13 AM
Have you looked into either the BarclayCard Arrival MasterCard or the Chase Sapphire travel rewards card? Neither of these lock you into using a particular airline or hotel chain (you just buy your airline tickets and other travel-related costs with the card, and reimburse yourself for the purchase with your miles).

I love our BarclayCard--we don't spend nearly as much on travel as you, but so far it's saved us about $1,500 on the two trips to Europe we made in 2014 and 2015. With higher incomes, I bet you would rack up even more points than we do. :)
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Miss Prim on March 08, 2016, 06:40:49 AM
We don't really budget for trips, but I think we spent close to $10,000 last rolling year.  But, that is everything on a trip including gas, airfare, lodging, meals out ect.  It is high because we did a lot of month long travel and some airline trips.  But, this is our major expense in our lives, so we basically live to travel!

                                                                                                 Miss Prim
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: dreams_and_discoveries on March 08, 2016, 07:20:07 AM
I've been spending about £5.5k for the last few years, just for me. I've had some epic trips, notably Peru/Bolivia, doing the Inca Trail, amazon jungle retreat, seeing Lake Titicaca, and a Serengeti safari and hike up Kilimanjaro.

As my long term plans are for some slow travel, I'm going to cut back on expensive trips for the next few years, just a few European and UK trips. The maths say that 5 years of £3.5k holidays saved would give me one year in South East Asia. Whilst still allowing me to take ~8 trips a year, just closer to home and cheaper.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Sweetloveginger on March 08, 2016, 07:21:01 AM
We don't really plan a travel budget, but then most of our vacations are backpacking or camping, so aside from a tank of gas we aren't paying much. This year however we are taking a real vacation to Italy (our last international trip was 2012) so for that I'm budgeting something like $4k or less.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: JoJo on March 08, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
I've pretty consistently spent $5000 per year for each of the last 6 years.  This includes 1-2 international trips, a few days added on to business trips, and camping trips nearby. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: YK-Phil on March 08, 2016, 11:23:01 AM
We budget $6000 per year for travel for DW and me but we haven't spent anything in the past two years except gas and expenses to travel from Calgary to our Gulf Island property a few times a year. Post RE, our annual slow travel budget will be $2500 for air tickets, and a maximum of $600 a month for living expenses such as renting a studio apartment or beach house, local transportation (scooter or bicycles), and food.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Cassie on March 08, 2016, 12:45:15 PM
The past few years we have spent about 14k/year but are inour early 60's and want to travel while we can.  In years past we spent much less.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: 2lazy2retire on March 08, 2016, 12:50:25 PM
Just curious. 

Our combined incomes are roughly $180K, and I budget $1,200/mo ( $14,400/yr ) for travel. 

We're a family of 4, take roughly 3 domestic and 1 international trips per year. 

It's excessive, but we moved away from family and we like to visit.  We're also dual citizens and enjoy going back to Europe every year to visit family. 

Other than that, there are no beach or destination vacations - everything is for visiting family.

Very similar - ditto on the trips back home
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: loftygoal on March 08, 2016, 01:36:18 PM
I never realized it before but we don't have a travel budget. We just make frugal travel choices. I churn about a dozen credit cards for sign-up bonuses and miles, so travel and lodging is often free (free + booking fees), but our largest travel expense is having to pay for boarding for our pets. I have yet to figure out a good way to frugalize overnight pet boarding.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: dreams_and_discoveries on March 08, 2016, 01:38:09 PM
I never realized it before but we don't have a travel budget. We just make frugal travel choices. I churn about a dozen credit cards for sign-up bonuses and miles, so travel and lodging is often free (free + booking fees), but our largest travel expense is having to pay for boarding for our pets. I have yet to figure out a good way to frugalize overnight pet boarding.

A free housesitter? Or homeswap?
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Fishindude on March 08, 2016, 02:24:31 PM
Don't really have a budget, but have been spending close to $20K annually last few years.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: TheAnonOne on March 08, 2016, 02:35:36 PM
I don't keep a number, I travel as much as I want, but I do is as economically as I can. EX: We are going to FL in the fall... credit-card points for the flight.

We are going to Tokyo in the spring of 2017... again credit card rewards.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Money Mouse on March 08, 2016, 03:20:54 PM
We drive to MIL's once a year for a week long visit, $1200 for that (gas, hotel, food, and a day at Hershey Park - grandma doesn't have room for us and trying to cook at her place is a bitch, so we do breakfast at the hotel, sandwiches at Gma's for lunch and eat out for dinner all week).

We used to spend another $1000 annually to fly to my Dad's home a few states away, but he's in the process of relocating back to my area so that will stop. I'll still fly out that way on occasion to visit my brother but it won't be annually any longer. So we get to see my Dad a heck of a lot more often AND we get $1k back into our budget to save/spend elsewhere, sweet!

Other than trips to see "the Grands", right now we are playing it by ear. We decide on if we want to take a trip, and if so then where, and depending on that we try to fit it into the budget based on current goals and funds.  DD is still young (4 years old) and while she's super easy to travel with, she isn't quite old enough to go on the types of trips we want to take. We are also saving like mad for a down payment. So I think this year will be just the trip to Gma's house. Next year I want to try and take the kidlet to Disney though, that will be about $2k (even after free air/hotel on points...yikes those park tickets are $$$), but it will depend on how the house savings is going.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: couponvan on March 08, 2016, 05:36:59 PM
We budget $500/mo for travel for a family of 5.  Any above this amount is from DH's or my bonuses. Our combined income is in the $275-$300K range.

We have managed to get all but 3 of the U.S. states (Vermont, Alaska and Hawaii) with our children over the past few years. 

Largely, we find great deals on airfare or we DRIVE.

We love Spirit (no Spirit) airlines and Hotwire.  They help us keep our $500/mo budget. Where else besides Spirit can you fly round trip from Chicago to California, Myrtle Beach, New Orleans, Portland, or Houston for $46.20/person ROUND TRIP?  We use Hotwire for the hotel and rental car - we don't usually care exactly which hotel we are staying in as long as it is a 3 1/2* or better. Priceline doesn't work for 4 people in hotels.

DH always says he "never gets a vacation" as he only considers week long vacations "vacations".  He never wants to take a full week off. We mostly do Saturday-Tuesday or Wednesday-Saturday vacations.  That's when Spirit has their cheap airfare. (Too bad they don't fly to HI or AK.) $231 gets 5 of us round trip, we spend $75/night on hotels, and usually $50 for the rental car. We pack everyone in 1 suitcase ($40 RT) which includes an aero mattress for the kid who gets stuck on the floor in the hotel room. We generally do one of those trips about every other month, which allows us to eat out and do some paid sightseeing. 

Actually, with our Spirit miles from all our trips, we have enough to do 6 days in Jamaica this December on their points break (10,000 miles is all it takes to go RT from Chicago to Jamaica)! DH is still trying to figure out if he can take that much time off.

This year travel will be more expensive because we are going to China with the kids for Spring Break....We used DH's bonus for that.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: MayDay on March 09, 2016, 07:00:24 AM
With 4 people, the costs to get there kill us if it's flying distance, but if we drive it's obviously cheap. Last year we took a "big" trip to Yellowstone, 2k just for flights, then another 1-2k for all the other costs. Other than that we pretty much camp and visit family.

I've never had much luck finding super cheap hotels or air bnb, so unless we camp lodging has been 100$ a night typically. And after all the work of traveling with small children we do tend to eat out sone if we aren't camping.

I would ideally like to budget ~6-8k a year but that is not currently possible. Right now we are more like 2-3k a year on average but spending most of it one year, then taking the next year off and just camping.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: dude on March 09, 2016, 07:08:07 AM
Don't have a budget, but spend pretty liberally on vacations (usually 3 with the wife, 2 solo).  Probably spend in the neighborhood of $10k-$12k, depending on locations visited.  Income is about 20% higher than yours.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Ricky on March 09, 2016, 08:31:27 AM
Asking someone their budget of anything is like asking someone what brand of underwear they wear.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: sam on March 09, 2016, 08:38:51 AM
Under £100 a month, I'm a single 27yr old living with my GF.

Covers enough for 2 international trips and several weekends away.

Sam
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: mathlete on March 09, 2016, 08:39:59 AM
I put $5000 down on the spreadsheet but in reality we spend what we spend.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: SnackDog on March 09, 2016, 08:42:04 AM
Under 5% of gross income.  With airfares so low (as little as $300 inter-continental), that is plenty for four or five international trips per year for us.  Last year spouse forced me to get Invisalign braces so I subtracted the cost from the travel budget.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: smedleyb on March 09, 2016, 12:08:39 PM
Travel expense is by far the most un-Mustachian aspect of my budget, pushing around 1K a month.  My frugality muscle is incredibly weak in this department.  Every year I vow to take an ax to it, and every year I seem to cut off a financial limb instead.     
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: GuitarStv on March 10, 2016, 06:17:28 AM
People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: ransom132 on March 10, 2016, 06:37:04 AM
People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.
True, but just remember life is all about doing what you love and some people here seem to love their travelling so it's not a bad thing if you do something you love even if it costs alot....as long as it doesn't put you in debt.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: EXLIer on March 10, 2016, 06:38:56 AM
We're lucky as we never pay for hotels and or meals.  We stay at family's house while visiting domestically, and we have our own house in Europe we stay in while my relatives always provide meals for us. 

We most certainly wouldn't travel as much if lodging and meals were a factor.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: plainjane on March 10, 2016, 06:41:00 AM
People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.

Now that the mortgage is paid, it is the second largest item on my budget after retirement investing.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: dude on March 10, 2016, 07:04:19 AM
People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.

Because travel rocks, and is worth every penny.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: I'm a red panda on March 10, 2016, 07:54:26 AM
People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.

It's the money I save by not having cable :)
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Fishindude on March 10, 2016, 08:35:57 AM
My only other bills are utilities, taxes, home upkeep and general living expenses.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: mm1970 on March 10, 2016, 09:11:49 AM
People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.
Average about $5k
Median about $3k

I made a histogram of the results.  Best I could estimate on some of them.

What is your definition of astounding?

Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: AZDude on March 10, 2016, 12:05:50 PM
$250 a month, so $3,000 a year. We take lots of small weekend trips instead of the big international trips(mainly due to having a preschool aged child).
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: maco on March 10, 2016, 12:15:40 PM
I was budgeting like $30/mo for the two annual camping trips (one is a week-long reenactment with a $120 camp space rental fee) and then figuring all spending I did at the reenactment had to come from my regular spending money.

My husband's budget apparently had him putting everything he spends while we're there as "vacation" expenses (craft suppies? vacation. pottery? vacation. archery gear? vacation) instead of trying to track all the cash he spends and divide it into categories. Now that we have a combined budget, it's set at $100/mo, but I don't know how exactly that'll work out when we go next.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: JoJo on March 10, 2016, 01:47:42 PM
People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.

Now that the mortgage is paid, it is the second largest item on my budget after retirement investing.

I was going to say ditto but then realized Saving > Taxes > Travel > everything else  although due to a recent increase in HOA dues that one's competing with travel.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: couponvan on March 11, 2016, 05:44:40 AM
People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.
Average about $5k
Median about $3k

I made a histogram of the results.  Best I could estimate on some of them.

What is your definition of astounding?
Cool! I also assume people who have an SO and/or kids are including them in the budget and it's not per person. My travel spending is just for me so may be much higher than a family with seemingly larger expenses. Of course mine is for months at a time rather than weeks so that makes a huge difference. Probably need a per person per day expense breakdown. But really doesn't matter 'cause....travel!

Yes - ours is $100/month per person budgeted. $500/month total. Kids are expensive! :-)
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: aprilchem on March 11, 2016, 06:04:12 AM
Family of 5, gross income about $200k, our travel budget is about $10k per year.  We don't spend that every year, though - I'd say we alternate between 5K/15K because we do a "big" trip every other year.  Last year it was Hawaii, next year it's Japan.  This year we'll just do local trips & such.

And yes, it's a large line item in my budget.  I'm willing to cut in other places to give my children the experience of visiting other places.  As a college professor I see many young adults who have never been outside their local area, and I think those kids are at a disadvantage over those who have seen the world.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: abhe8 on March 11, 2016, 06:11:08 AM
Family of 6, with a gross income of 215k. We budget about 10k, for one or two big trips per year. This year it's the very unmustachian WDW. But, we are totally spoiled with several family vacation homes, (parents, grandparents) that we frequent, paying just our gas to get there and food costs. We love these trips just as much, to the beach, mountains and two lakes.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: SnackDog on March 11, 2016, 06:57:57 AM
I think it would be interesting to understand the different drivers people have for recreational travel.   Many are family visits.  Others just need to get away and camping works fine - no need to go far for most of us to experience amazing nature. Others are dazzled by locations or experiences which seem exotic compared to their own home lives.  It's this last category which is dangerous because it can be costly and, at the end of the day, you are just going to where someone else lives!
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: onehair on March 11, 2016, 07:07:27 AM
I usually only travel 2 months out of the year day trips mainly when we get third paychecks in a calendar year.  So about $700 since I usually like to take the train go up shop a bit in maybe Baltimore New York or Philadelphia since I adore farmers markets and return home the same day. That amount is usually less when I catch a special and I don't spend $300 per trip.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: sjc0816 on March 11, 2016, 07:17:42 AM
Family of 5, gross income about $200k, our travel budget is about $10k per year.  We don't spend that every year, though - I'd say we alternate between 5K/15K because we do a "big" trip every other year.  Last year it was Hawaii, next year it's Japan.  This year we'll just do local trips & such.

And yes, it's a large line item in my budget.  I'm willing to cut in other places to give my children the experience of visiting other places.  As a college professor I see many young adults who have never been outside their local area, and I think those kids are at a disadvantage over those who have seen the world.

Kids that have seen the world before college? Do you realize how elitist that sounds? You may "cut" in places in order to have a 10k travel budget - but with your income it's not hard. The majority of parents in this country feel lucky to be able to take their kids on a road trip or camping and I'm sure their kids will turn out just fine.

We spend about 5k per year split up into a few trips. These are road trips to visit family or renting a house on the beach.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Guses on March 11, 2016, 09:02:13 AM
We budget for 1,950$ but, when my spouse is not looking, I secretly buy some sweet sweet VXC.

Hmmmmm... international exposure at it's best.

I disagree with whomever said kids need to see other countries before college... PFFT. Going back one generation, nobody but the child of the very rich went anywhere international for their vacations. Most of them turned out fine.

It is also possible to seep some culture just by doing stuff in your own part of the country.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: chubbybunny on March 11, 2016, 09:30:44 AM
Apparently 1/3 of my spending last month was for travel.  LOL  I guess that's a lot?
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: mm1970 on March 11, 2016, 10:18:37 AM
Family of 5, gross income about $200k, our travel budget is about $10k per year.  We don't spend that every year, though - I'd say we alternate between 5K/15K because we do a "big" trip every other year.  Last year it was Hawaii, next year it's Japan.  This year we'll just do local trips & such.

And yes, it's a large line item in my budget.  I'm willing to cut in other places to give my children the experience of visiting other places.  As a college professor I see many young adults who have never been outside their local area, and I think those kids are at a disadvantage over those who have seen the world.

Kids that have seen the world before college? Do you realize how elitist that sounds? You may "cut" in places in order to have a 10k travel budget - but with your income it's not hard. The majority of parents in this country feel lucky to be able to take their kids on a road trip or camping and I'm sure their kids will turn out just fine.

We spend about 5k per year split up into a few trips. These are road trips to visit family or renting a house on the beach.
I'd never traveled much before college.  I grew up in PA (rural).  When I was 7, we drove to NC to visit an uncle for a week.
The week after I graduated HS, my sister took me on a weekend "vacation" to stay with a friend in OH (she had a pool!)

My first ever plane trip was when I was a freshman in college, 18, with ROTC - all the way to GA.

I think I turned out just fine.

Oh, my mom made $9000 a year in income back then. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: ransom132 on March 11, 2016, 11:08:54 AM
We budget for 1,950$ but, when my spouse is not looking, I secretly buy some sweet sweet VXC.

Hmmmmm... international exposure at it's best.


I wish there was a "Like" button.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: aprilchem on March 11, 2016, 11:30:13 AM
Family of 5, gross income about $200k, our travel budget is about $10k per year.  We don't spend that every year, though - I'd say we alternate between 5K/15K because we do a "big" trip every other year.  Last year it was Hawaii, next year it's Japan.  This year we'll just do local trips & such.

And yes, it's a large line item in my budget.  I'm willing to cut in other places to give my children the experience of visiting other places.  As a college professor I see many young adults who have never been outside their local area, and I think those kids are at a disadvantage over those who have seen the world.

Kids that have seen the world before college? Do you realize how elitist that sounds? You may "cut" in places in order to have a 10k travel budget - but with your income it's not hard. The majority of parents in this country feel lucky to be able to take their kids on a road trip or camping and I'm sure their kids will turn out just fine.

We spend about 5k per year split up into a few trips. These are road trips to visit family or renting a house on the beach.
I'd never traveled much before college.  I grew up in PA (rural).  When I was 7, we drove to NC to visit an uncle for a week.
The week after I graduated HS, my sister took me on a weekend "vacation" to stay with a friend in OH (she had a pool!)

My first ever plane trip was when I was a freshman in college, 18, with ROTC - all the way to GA.

I think I turned out just fine.

Oh, my mom made $9000 a year in income back then.

Fair enough.  I also grew up in poverty and didn't go on a plane until I was 20, and I turned out just fine as well. But I do believe I, personally,  was at a disadvantage in college and graduate school over my peers who were more worldly. And I do see a difference in my students between those who have experienced other cultures and those who haven't.   My current institution has a $60k yearly price tag, so I'm doubting these students aren't traveling for the same reasons I didn't as a kid.

I'm certainly not asking anyone to agree with me, I've simply structured my life (and our finances) to include these experiences for us.  I don't really see that as being elitist, and I don't think travel is imperative to success in life.  But I do think it's helpful.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: POINTS of ER on March 12, 2016, 03:18:21 AM
My significant other and I budget $300 a month for travel expenses. We contribute $150 each into what we call a "Guilt-Free Travel Savings". All funds allocated here go all towards nothing but travel expenses: food, lodging, flights, and activities. We never spend more than what's in this savings as well. We travel quite frequently. Flying at least 1 international trip each year and multiple domestic travel during holidays or just weekend getaways. We are capable of doing it cheap because we're avid travel hackers/credit card churners. Some of our travels which includes hotel, flights, and ground transportation can be as cheap as $35 TOTAL for the both of us. Only other costs we have to worry about is simply food and activities.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Albert on March 12, 2016, 03:47:52 AM
Me and my girlfriend (total income ca 250k) traveling mostly together but not always spend about 7-8k per year on travel related expenses. Most years it's one long trip far away, one long trip within Europe, 1-3 mini trips (2-4 days) and 2-3 family visits (2 h flight for me).
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: bkmnky72 on March 12, 2016, 05:47:24 AM
$170K+ HHI, no kids.  $2,400 budgeted for this year.  We have stashed about 5 hotel nights and 1 airfare, so hopefully that would help.  Our spending last year was about 2x+ that.  My extended family wants to do a big international trip towards the holidays, so that will definitely blow that budget. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: ender on March 12, 2016, 05:52:25 AM
People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.

That's what I was thinking.

I guess though most people spending so much on travel make like 3x or more what our household income is, so it's easier to spend $10k+ on travel...
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: human on March 12, 2016, 06:08:37 AM
I'm looking to seriously cut back this year. Went to patagonia last winter and new zealand this winter. There was another trip in August to the sierra that was supposed to be cheap but my rental car got trapped behind a forest fire and I had to pay a fortune to get it out. the car was great for drving around on my own but next time I'll take a bus to the eastern side.

I know people can find cheap flights but our dates are always set in stone and I personally prefer to pay more for flights that don't involve four connections it's just too easy to get left stranded. I think we will stick to short local road trips and hiking trips.

I spent more last year on travel than rent, and my rent isn't cheap!
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Albert on March 12, 2016, 07:25:24 AM
Travel is mostly a luxury, no doubt about that. If our financial situation were to seriously deteriorate long distance travel would be the first thing to scale back.

For us travel is mostly a way to enjoy life to the fullest. We live in a modest two bedroom apartment downtown, have no kids and own no car, but we do have high incomes (ca 14,000 $/month after taxes, pension fund etc.) and 5-7 weeks of vacation every year.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: CheapScholar on March 12, 2016, 08:02:21 AM
Family income of about 135K.  Low cost of living area, one child.

I'd guesstimate maybe 5 or 6K on travel this year.  We are going on a cruise in a few weeks (I know, probably not very "mustachian" but I love cruising).  We got a great deal on NCL, child sails free and our balcony cabin was only $2,100 before gratuities. 

We are also hoping to visit a national park this summer, probably Rocky Mountain again because flights to Denver are usually cheap. 

My wife is not big on travel.  I go back country packing by myself in Michigan which costs me virtually nothing.  Also, I travel for work nationally so I sometimes tack on a day or two of vacation and try to see a national park or see some sites - as cheaply as I possibly can.  To keep this cheap I use Hotwire (booking hotels that offer free breakfast can be a great deal if you pocket a few apples and snacks to also supply your lunch).
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Dances With Fire on March 12, 2016, 08:03:42 AM
About $2500-$3000 per year. Two adults no kids. ($5000 for someplace really special but that is rare.)

We want to see as much of this world and the people there as we can. There will come a time when we won't be able to travel as easily...

 Don't wait until you are "retired" to do the things that you want to do.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Tabaxus on March 12, 2016, 09:10:52 AM
I take one major vacation every two years.  Less about money, more about the fact that it's impossible for me to get away from work for two weeks, and I think two weeks is necessary to justify the cost and literal, physical pain associated with travel (airplanes and airport layovers are the worst).  We tend to spend around $5k-6k on such vacations.  In the years my spouse and I have been together, we've done three such trips.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: freeat57 on March 12, 2016, 03:06:08 PM
I never realized it before but we don't have a travel budget. We just make frugal travel choices. I churn about a dozen credit cards for sign-up bonuses and miles, so travel and lodging is often free (free + booking fees), but our largest travel expense is having to pay for boarding for our pets. I have yet to figure out a good way to frugalize overnight pet boarding.

For many years, I had a greenhouse full of orchids, almost like having pets.  Fortunately I had a friend who also had a greenhouse.  We traded off greenhouse sitting duty for travel.  (Really necessary in the winter!) It worked out really well, because we tended to travel about the same amount each year, but on a different schedule.  You could find a fellow pet owner, or even start an informal pet sitting exchange among several friends.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: happyfeet on March 12, 2016, 10:36:17 PM
$14000.  By far our highest line item in budget.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: risky4me on March 12, 2016, 11:11:59 PM
     We use 10K for the travel budget. That's usually a minor(domestic quickie) trip and a major(foreign country). Wife loves traveling more than I so she takes trips more often than I and I stay and take care of the house and fuzzball.
     Since I have quit working full time, I just don't have the need to disconnect that I used to have when performing a stressful job. Another factor is we are in the interior of Alaska and it's really a good idea to get out during the dark, cold months. Our airfare, even to Australia or Italy, are usually purchased with travel mile rewards so the main expense is hotels and dining. It's one of our largest budget items but it's is an easy budget item to adjust if times require tightening the belt a tad.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Villanelle on March 13, 2016, 12:03:41 AM
For the last few years, while we lived in Europe, it was insane. We don't really track spending by category, nor do we budget in the traditional sense, but I estimate it was probably $12-15k/yr.  (We went to 32 countries, some of them multiple times, in 3 years, so we really did travel a *lot*.)  Now that will probably go down to about $1800-$3000, which will consist of one trip back to the States from Asia every other year and some local travel (train fare and lodgings), plus perhaps another plane ticket Stateside for me if I accompany DH to the States or elsewhere when he travels for work.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: KBecks on March 13, 2016, 07:36:52 AM
This year we are going on

1. A spring break drive to Kentucky / Indiana, approx $1,500
2.  A long weekend at Madeline Island, camping, probably $500
3.  A few camping weekends, about $300 - $500 each.

That will put us around $5,000, which is about 4% of our household annual income.  We are putting a hitch on our van and buying a 5-bike trailer this year.

Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: GuitarStv on March 13, 2016, 10:21:43 AM
As a child our family would drive to visit and stay with relatives several times a year.  I went on two actual 'go somewhere far away vacations' during my entire childhood . . . We spent a week in Puerto Vallarta when I was 13, and we spent a two weeks driving around the east coast of Canada (Newfoundland, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia) when I was 16.

I'm incredibly grateful that my parents did not instill a love of travel in me, or normalize travel spending.  Apparently this gift has saved me thousands upon thousands of dollars every year.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: turketron on March 13, 2016, 02:17:59 PM
About $2500/year for me- single, ~$60k income. Last year, this amount included a week visiting my brother in California (did some hiking and some nice restaurants but a lot of it was just hanging out with him), a 10-day fishing trip in Canada, and a few 3-day weekend trips a few hours away.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: BTDretire on March 13, 2016, 04:15:20 PM
What's a vacation? I vaguely recall  taking my kids to DisneyWorld back in 2001.
Since then, no vacation, went to see my mother, which was 4 to 7 days off.
But that was not a vacation, guess it was for the kids.
This year I will start a permanent vacation, I'm 61 and I am ready.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: GetItRight on March 13, 2016, 05:44:33 PM
Relatives have a lake house, so spending time on the lake with family is my once a year big event vacation. Costs a few hundred in gas+food to spend a couple weeks skiing and imbibing. Aside from that having a boat is a vacation on the water every weekend in the warmer months for about $100/mo operating cost. So a few weeks on the lake plus every weekend in the warm months costs me $150/mo. Add another $100/mo if I amortize the cost of the boat over how long I've owned it. So somewhere between $50/mo and $250/mo and decreasing every year?
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: ShortInSeattle on March 13, 2016, 05:59:35 PM
It's about 20% of our annual spending.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Villanelle on March 13, 2016, 06:16:12 PM
As a child our family would drive to visit and stay with relatives several times a year.  I went on two actual 'go somewhere far away vacations' during my entire childhood . . . We spent a week in Puerto Vallarta when I was 13, and we spent a two weeks driving around the east coast of Canada (Newfoundland, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia) when I was 16.

I'm incredibly grateful that my parents did not instill a love of travel in me, or normalize travel spending.  Apparently this gift has saved me thousands upon thousands of dollars every year.


I don't think your parents necessarily deserve credit.  As a kid, we went to see grandparents every couple of years.  That was it, until I was about 11, when we did go on a Mexican cruise.  My parents started traveling later (when I was in college), but even then, they mostly preferred to go to the same places over and over. 

So my travel bug is all my own, not something inherited. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: MsPeacock on March 13, 2016, 06:35:59 PM
A lot, but really about 5% of my annual income. I hit my savings goals, and after mortgage, travel is pretty much my largest expense. I have family in Europe and am trying to take the kids every-other-year to keep them connected because they are third generation. I love to travel and get itchy feet. I usually have one BIG trip per year w/ the kids (sometimes every-other-year) and a smaller get away w/ them that might be 2 nights at the beach, 5 days or so in the winter with BF to tropics most years, and a couple weekend get a ways. It is a big morale booster for me. I don't want to camp or sleep bad or deal with anything on most vacations -  I need some recovery time and laying on the beach and having someone bring me food and adult beverages helps * a lot*. I don't shop for a hobby. I don't busy expensive tools or car parts for a hobby. I don't eat out extravagantly. I don't buy jewelry. I don't buy expensive handbags or shoes. I don't pay hundred of dollars to get my hair colored. I keep my heat turned down in the winter. I do buy travel.

My job is so stressful and I am lucky enough to have fairly generous leave and a 4-day AWS so I can swing long weekends a few times per year. Desperately in need of an escape right now as a matter of fact....
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Nickyd£g on March 14, 2016, 07:06:36 AM
I go on holiday every 2 years and total costs around £800.  This year I am going to Corfu, to lie on a beach and wander around the Grecian ruins, on my own.  While I do have debt, I need these breaks.  I tend to stay at home for the other 3 weeks per year, and it's only about 0.3% of my gross annual income, so I am not sweating about it.  I'm sooo looking forward to August!
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: mm1970 on March 14, 2016, 12:44:57 PM
Family of 5, gross income about $200k, our travel budget is about $10k per year.  We don't spend that every year, though - I'd say we alternate between 5K/15K because we do a "big" trip every other year.  Last year it was Hawaii, next year it's Japan.  This year we'll just do local trips & such.

And yes, it's a large line item in my budget.  I'm willing to cut in other places to give my children the experience of visiting other places.  As a college professor I see many young adults who have never been outside their local area, and I think those kids are at a disadvantage over those who have seen the world.

Kids that have seen the world before college? Do you realize how elitist that sounds? You may "cut" in places in order to have a 10k travel budget - but with your income it's not hard. The majority of parents in this country feel lucky to be able to take their kids on a road trip or camping and I'm sure their kids will turn out just fine.

We spend about 5k per year split up into a few trips. These are road trips to visit family or renting a house on the beach.
I'd never traveled much before college.  I grew up in PA (rural).  When I was 7, we drove to NC to visit an uncle for a week.
The week after I graduated HS, my sister took me on a weekend "vacation" to stay with a friend in OH (she had a pool!)

My first ever plane trip was when I was a freshman in college, 18, with ROTC - all the way to GA.

I think I turned out just fine.

Oh, my mom made $9000 a year in income back then.

Fair enough.  I also grew up in poverty and didn't go on a plane until I was 20, and I turned out just fine as well. But I do believe I, personally,  was at a disadvantage in college and graduate school over my peers who were more worldly. And I do see a difference in my students between those who have experienced other cultures and those who haven't.   My current institution has a $60k yearly price tag, so I'm doubting these students aren't traveling for the same reasons I didn't as a kid.

I'm certainly not asking anyone to agree with me, I've simply structured my life (and our finances) to include these experiences for us.  I don't really see that as being elitist, and I don't think travel is imperative to success in life.  But I do think it's helpful.
I almost feel like not being worldly was to my advantage in college.

I attended a college that is now $60k, so it was one of the most expensive colleges when I attended.  I had a fair # of classmates who were wealthy.

They had computers (back when it wasn't a thing, most people used the computer labs), cars (there were very few parking spaces on campus for students, maybe only 10), vacations and trips, etc.

What they didn't have was fire and grit.  One of these boys said to me, just before graduation - "Doesn't it suck that we are all going to be making at least $38k and you will be making half that in the military?"  Honestly, I said "man, I'm just lucky to be here and to get this opportunity".  Sure, some of those rich kids are fine - like the guy who was #2 and went on to medical school.  This guy was a C- student, so him?  Not so much.  He was already jaded and entitled at 22. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Prepube on March 14, 2016, 10:49:51 PM
Asking someone their budget of anything is like asking someone what brand of underwear they wear.

We spend 10% of annual budget on travel.  Hanes.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: FiveSigmas on March 14, 2016, 11:26:13 PM
Asking someone their budget of anything is like asking someone what brand of underwear they wear.

We spend 10% of annual budget on travel.  Hanes.

I don't go on vacations. Conclude from that what you will.

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Not actually true. In reality, I believe I've spent an amortized ~ $1000/year over the last 5 years, with one major international trip.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: SwordGuy on March 15, 2016, 04:22:17 AM
We don't have a travel budget.

We have a savings and investment budget.

Once the bills are paid and the savings and investment budget is filled, we spend what's left without tracking it. :)
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: zephyr911 on March 15, 2016, 01:14:51 PM
Travel is one of my great loves and biggest indulgences, but recently, I've done my best to minimize cost for the sake of long-term prosperity.

Primary challenge: DW is Argentinian and something unforgettable (family wedding, etc) has come up at least once a year since we got together 5 years ago. We would like to dial it back to every 2 years or even less, and just take longer trips to compensate. Now that the last sibling is getting married, we may actually pull it off. We paid for next month's trip months ago, ~$3500 for the 2 of us. Once we're there we spend less than we would at home, staying at her mom's house and mostly eating in. In 1-2 years we both plan to go part-time, so we should be able to implement our plan (and spend less on tickets via more flexible travel dates).

Other than that, we don't spend much. Both went to DC for a 3-day weekend, stayed with friends, etc, total cost ~$600. Might do one more similar trip this year, TBD.

So, out of $140k gross (and rising) we're blowing 5-6k total. Could be worse.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: sleepyguy on March 16, 2016, 11:28:25 AM
Fellow TO'er here was thinking the exact same thing.

Maybe if my family or my GF family was in another province/country, as is everyone is within 1hr of us which is super convenient.

As for travel... don't care and don't budget for it.  We'll go here and there... nothing too extravagant.  Won't be like a $10-20k trip or anything... we both are in agreement we don't really care to "see the world".  Canada, heck even Ontario is nice enough with enough nature for our lifetime.

People in this thread spend an astounding amount of money on travel each year.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: HPstache on February 07, 2019, 05:27:17 PM
We budget $2,500 per year, but we are spending $5K this year which includes traveling to Puerta Vallarta for a wedding this month.  We had a bunch of excess rolling over from last year, so we shouldn't bust the budget too badly.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Zikoris on February 07, 2019, 07:13:06 PM
We generally spend around $9,500/year, but to be fair, that gets us a LOT of travel - we typically go to Asia in the winter, Europe in the summer, and maybe five or six other shorter trips around Canada and the US. Meh. It's a lot, but we still save 60-70% and will be retired by 35, so we don't really care.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: sparkytheop on February 07, 2019, 07:17:32 PM
It depends on the year and what else is on my plate.  Right now, the budget for travel is much smaller than I'd like, because I've been saving to build a new house on my property, and to help my son with college (I also had to replace my car much earlier than I'd wanted).

From the time he was 9 until he was 17, we did 4 trips to Europe.  Two two week trips, one 9 day trip, and one five week trip.  For the five week trip, I budgeted $15k, but spend $12k (including a Black Forest cuckoo clock for my parents, as a "thank you" for watching my dog).

Last year I only spent a few hundred on two road trips (one was a drive to Vegas with a friend, then a flight home, the second was a solo five day road trip to Utah-- two nights sleeping in my car, two nights in a hotel).

This year I have a 10 day, solo trip to Sweden and Finland planned for the spring (cost of flight+rooms+ferry between countries = $805, and 44 hours of vacation time.  I could have traded a 12 hour night with someone to make it just 32 hours of vacation, but just taking it was easy, and someone will be happy for the overtime.)  I have another $1k set aside to spend on everything else I'll need there (food, entertainment, souvenirs), but I don't plan to spend that much.

I'm hoping that I can continue to set aside at least $2k for travel until I get the house built.  I can take 16 days off in a row, 10 5 times a year (every 10 weeks), and only use 16 hours of vacation each time, if I want (if I don't want to block it off, I still get 14 days off in that stretch, and can work OT if needed).  Goal is to do at least one international trip every year until the house is built.  After the house is built (which would mean I could sell my current house, or just explore some other options), I hope to do at least 2 international trips each year, with a much larger budget.  I'm guessing I'd want to set aside at least $10k/year.

Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Philociraptor on February 08, 2019, 07:20:52 AM
No budget here, but if I look in Mint it tells me that we've (we = wife and me) averaged $248/mo (around $3k/year) on travel-related expenses since February of 2012. The amount spent appears to be trickling up each year.

Holy thread revival Batman! @v8rx7guy pulled up a nearly 3-year old thread, so I guess I should update my entry: last year we averaged $500/mo, and this year is looking to definitely beat that.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: DadJokes on February 08, 2019, 07:38:57 AM
Recycling old threads is a mustachian thing to do.

I second the old comment about how much people spend on travel. However, if we made more money, it would largely be split between retirement funding and travel.

We only make ~$90k/year and only take 1-2 trips per year. Our budget is around $1,000.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: AMandM on February 08, 2019, 08:35:55 AM
I can take 16 days off in a row, 10 times a year, and only use 16 hours of vacation each time, if I want

What?  You can take half the month off ten months out of the year? I don't understand.

Our family of 5 spends about $2500 on year on travel.  That includes about 10 nights of camping in state parks and 3-4 driving trips to visit family; some of those trips require motels and some eating out.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: HPstache on February 08, 2019, 08:49:56 AM
No budget here, but if I look in Mint it tells me that we've (we = wife and me) averaged $248/mo (around $3k/year) on travel-related expenses since February of 2012. The amount spent appears to be trickling up each year.

Holy thread revival Batman! @v8rx7guy pulled up a nearly 3-year old thread, so I guess I should update my entry: last year we averaged $500/mo, and this year is looking to definitely beat that.

That's weird.  It showed up on my unread posts feed and I didn't even notice the date!
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: the_fixer on February 08, 2019, 09:05:52 AM
Travel / vacation is our largest expense after mortgage and food.

We average about $5,500 per year about 2.4% of our income.

This includes
2x  2 week vacations out of the US typically somewhere warm with good diving

2x 1-2 week trips to a different state typically somewhere with water or a beach

6+ camping trips in the summer

Ways we try to reduce the cost

We have the companion pass from Southwest so my wife flys for free with me and I have a bunch of points.

We have friends that dive / enjoy the beach so we sometimes share a condo with them and take turns cooking breakfast / dinner.

We have family in San Diego by La Jolla and they let us use their spare bedroom.


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Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: sparkytheop on February 08, 2019, 09:56:14 AM
I can take 16 days off in a row, 10 times a year, and only use 16 hours of vacation each time, if I want

What?  You can take half the month off ten months out of the year? I don't understand.

Our family of 5 spends about $2500 on year on travel.  That includes about 10 nights of camping in state parks and 3-4 driving trips to visit family; some of those trips require motels and some eating out.

Oops, I had a mistype there... I meant every 10 weeks, or 5 times a year.  But, yes.

I work a rotating 12 hour shift (that requires a calendar to keep straight).  The shift is on a 10 week rotation, and based on an 80 hour, 2 week, pay period (rather than a 40 hour week).  At one point in those 10 weeks, I work 6 12 hour nights at the very beginning of pay period 1.  The second week, I work one 8 hour day, so 80 hour in pay period 1.  The third week (pay period 2), I work one 8 hour day.  The fourth week, I work my 6 12 hour nights at the end of the pay period.  So, if I take those two 8 hour days off, I get 16 days off in a row.

I'll edit my original post...
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: partgypsy on February 08, 2019, 09:58:12 AM
I don't have a "budget" but I have a category that lumps travel/entertainment together. So this also includes say bowling or movie tickets or other activities done either while on vacation or at home. This is actually an area I want to increase in the future.
Average over past 4 years (2 while married 2 while separated/divorced) average spend is 1907/per year.
The rest of my family lives in another state, so I and the 2 kids visit once a year (800-900 just for the plane tickets). I also go to the beach for a few days each year.
   
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Travis on February 08, 2019, 10:07:36 AM
Since we're still working full time we don't get large breaks, but we'll overnight drive back to our parents 3 or 4 times a year for a long weekend plus a "big" road trip to some national parks in the summer.  The last few years it's averaged out to about $4800/year.  My intent once we FIRE is to spend about $6000/year on vacations, but hack a lot of it which I'm only dabbling in right now. If I can figure out a good system for cheap/free plane tickets we'll travel even more at the same overall cost.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: JoJo on February 08, 2019, 02:32:16 PM
This year's budget was high.  Spent $1000 spending the month of January in CA  (but $0 expenses back home).  $12,000 for an antarctica cruise in November.  Doesn't include airfare and whatever I do before or after the cruise... will for sure do something since I'm already in South American.  Also plan some roadtrips but they should be cheap.

Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Cassie on February 08, 2019, 06:11:48 PM
We didn’t travel much until retirement. The last 4 years we have spent between 9-14k/year.  We want to go while we both are in good health.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Fomerly known as something on February 08, 2019, 06:23:26 PM
Until 2014, I either visited my parents or my sister on vacation so cost was $300-400 a flight 2-3x a year with less than $500 spent during the visit.  In 2013 I move back closer to home and went on my first "adult" vacation ever in my mid 30's.  I've spend anywhere from about $2000-8000 for a week to 4 weeks of vacation since then. I do offset some items with rewards points and I'm working on getting better at finding better deals so total costs should go down in the future.  When it comes to travel hacking I'm totally a novice and I have some brand loyalty I should probably get over.

Travel is one of my top three spending categories and I'm OK with that.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: AMandM on February 08, 2019, 08:00:07 PM
I work a rotating 12 hour shift (that requires a calendar to keep straight).  The shift is on a 10 week rotation, and based on an 80 hour, 2 week, pay period (rather than a 40 hour week).  At one point in those 10 weeks, I work 6 12 hour nights at the very beginning of pay period 1.  The second week, I work one 8 hour day, so 80 hour in pay period 1.  The third week (pay period 2), I work one 8 hour day.  The fourth week, I work my 6 12 hour nights at the end of the pay period.  So, if I take those two 8 hour days off, I get 16 days off in a row.

I'll edit my original post...

Thanks for the clarification. Wow, being able to have 16 days off in a row for the cost of two 8-hour workdays is terrific. But that rotation--whew!
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: MrThatsDifferent on February 08, 2019, 08:45:14 PM
This, this is my non mustachian splurge, so for just me I have a budget of $7k a year. Travel is important and I do it when I can. I don’t spend all of that but don’t want to be constrained.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: SKL-HOU on February 11, 2019, 10:01:34 AM
I don't have a specific budget. It is just me and my 7-year old son. Every summer my mom flies here (from another country) to pick him up then brings him back at the end of summer. That is roughly $2500-3000 for flights depending on how early I buy the tickets. He spends the summer with my parents at their summer house (by the beach) so that is his main vacation.
Then we also do another vacation with either just the 2 of us or including my mom if she is visiting. In the past it has been Cancun (son, mom and me), Las Vegas (son, mom and me) and again Cancun this spring break (just son and me). Typically around $2500 total or so.

Basically we average roughly $5000 per year. Once our dog passes away (she is 12.5, hopefully we have at least 3-4 more years but she is a big dog so probably less :( ), we will probably do more 3 or 4-day weekend trips increasing the travel costs. It is just more difficult to just pick up and go when you have a dog. We also have a cat but cats are more independent.

Income is around 126k.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: sui generis on February 11, 2019, 10:08:46 AM
My early retirement budget is $1,000/mo just for myself.  It's a huge priority for me in retirement, but I'm in my first year, so we'll see how spending goes.  I definitely didn't have the time to travel as much when I worked so I could be overestimating how much I can spend. 

This year, we're going to Kenya and Rwanda, then to France "on the way back" for a conference for my fiancé.  The flights alone are enough to make me faint.  Also, Puerto Rico for our honeymoon and I'm planning a solo backpacking trip for 3 weeks.  Replacing some gear/supplies should be pretty nominal, but it'll come out of my travel budget.  But that's not even that much more traveling than I did while working and I don't project to have much leftover!  Hopefully some day in my retirement I'll have time to do more travel hacking, but for now we just look for economical flights and lodging, places where we can cook our own food, and of course a lot of our travel is backpacking, which usually costs about $15 per night for a permit (if not more like $15 per week). 

Travel hacking for flights would make a huge difference and it would be such a sweet, sweet feeling to not have to pay very much for what is always an awful experience anyway.  We had the Southwest Companion Pass last year and figured it saved us about $1500, but Southwest makes everything *so easy*.  From accumulating to using miles/points and being able to change flights, etc.  Reading materials on how to get miles on any other airline, and then use the different portals and transfer points between A and B and then the elaborate gymnastics you have to go through to find seats you can use those points on...it's like worse than studying for the Bar exam, TBH.  I'm not sure when in my retirement I will have the capacity to do that work. So I sort of made my travel budget to allow me to spend more time actually traveling than working on the intricacies and frustrations of seat selection and blackout dates on all the carriers.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Sugaree on February 11, 2019, 10:21:09 AM
We put aside ~$3600 a year for travel and do a big trip every 18 months or so.  We do a little travel hacking with credit cards and whatnot to supplement the cost.  We try to make it so that one big expense for every trip is covered, or mostly covered, by points/miles/etc.  Last summer it was the airfare.  This xmas it will be the train. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Sugaree on February 11, 2019, 10:25:29 AM
Have you looked into either the BarclayCard Arrival MasterCard or the Chase Sapphire travel rewards card? Neither of these lock you into using a particular airline or hotel chain (you just buy your airline tickets and other travel-related costs with the card, and reimburse yourself for the purchase with your miles).

I love our BarclayCard--we don't spend nearly as much on travel as you, but so far it's saved us about $1,500 on the two trips to Europe we made in 2014 and 2015. With higher incomes, I bet you would rack up even more points than we do. :)

Honestly, if you've got one of the Sapphires, look into the Freedoms too.  They all earn the Ultimate Rewards points (UR) and with the Sapphire can be combined into one account.  It's almost always a better deal to transfer to airline partners if possible than to use the UR portal to book flights.  Hotels are more hit or miss, but definitely check out the exchange partners before booking something. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Rosy on February 11, 2019, 06:04:04 PM
This is the first time in years that I am not either spending or saving up for next years trip - anywhere from $5K to $10K. Usually, one or two months trip to Europe.

No real travel budget at all for this year. Regardless, we might take like a one week vacation for two, stateside, and a beach weekend or two which shouldn't require any extra savings.
   
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: exterous on February 11, 2019, 08:00:51 PM
It's not something that we actively track and we change credit cards enough that the year end summaries don't really help either (I'm too lazy to aggregate them). Still its significant with 2018 coming in around $13k-15k even with a fair bit of travel hacking. 2018 was a little high though with New Zealand, two European trips and a trip to Africa in the same year. 2019 will probably be less as we'll be more focused on North and South America travels. Both my wife and I are on the same page that we'd rather spend more on travel now even if it means working a little longer. It helps that we both have jobs we don't mind at companies we like. There's just so much beauty out there to explore and amazing cultural exchanges to be had.

This year, we're going to Kenya and Rwanda

(snip)

Travel hacking for flights would make a huge difference and it would be such a sweet, sweet feeling to not have to pay very much for what is always an awful experience anyway.  We had the Southwest Companion Pass last year and figured it saved us about $1500, but Southwest makes everything *so easy*.  From accumulating to using miles/points and being able to change flights, etc.  Reading materials on how to get miles on any other airline, and then use the different portals and transfer points between A and B and then the elaborate gymnastics you have to go through to find seats you can use those points on...it's like worse than studying for the Bar exam, TBH.  I'm not sure when in my retirement I will have the capacity to do that work. So I sort of made my travel budget to allow me to spend more time actually traveling than working on the intricacies and frustrations of seat selection and blackout dates on all the carriers.

Our trip to Kenya ranks #2 on my 'most memorable and impactful trips' that we've taken so far. I hope you guys have a great trip! Hopefully you have some time to head out to somewhere like the Masai Mara.

Travel hacking is easier if you're not tied to specific destinations. Even though my wife has fairly prescribed vacation times during peak travel periods because she's a teacher I've had excellent luck going to United's award search portal and just looking up what award flights actually are available. "So no award flights are available to anywhere in the Caribbean or South America but we could choose from quite a few African countries."* YMMV but United award space had been good to us out of DTW - despite not being remotely close to a United hub.

*It can help to look at alliance route maps like this one: http://onw.innosked.com/ so you don't waste time looking at airports you can't get to with the miles you have
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: MaybeBabyMustache on February 11, 2019, 08:08:28 PM
I'm taking a sabbatical this year, so I'll likely spend more. I'm taking my sister to Hawaii, for example. We generally try to keep it to around $10k. This includes 3-4 long weekends or visits to my family (requires flights for four), an adult only trip (we're driving to Napa for a weekend) & skiing.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: 2Birds1Stone on February 11, 2019, 09:45:23 PM
I'm taking a sabbatical this year, so I'll likely spend more. I'm taking my sister to Hawaii, for example. We generally try to keep it to around $10k. This includes 3-4 long weekends or visits to my family (requires flights for four), an adult only trip (we're driving to Napa for a weekend) & skiing.

You're supposed to be retired by now!
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: MaybeBabyMustache on February 12, 2019, 07:00:57 AM
I'm taking a sabbatical this year, so I'll likely spend more. I'm taking my sister to Hawaii, for example. We generally try to keep it to around $10k. This includes 3-4 long weekends or visits to my family (requires flights for four), an adult only trip (we're driving to Napa for a weekend) & skiing.

You're supposed to be retired by now!

Don't I know it! We've settled on the sabbatical to start with, so I'm busy planning that. So many trip options!
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: jlcnuke on February 12, 2019, 07:52:33 AM
Single - plan to spend $8-10k/year on personal vacation and travel most years. Most of my vacations consist of flying to somewhere nice and warm to go diving and/or sailing, neither of which is a cheap hobby in general.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: mountain mustache on February 12, 2019, 08:00:43 AM
I live in a place many people vacation to, so I don't really travel much. I probably spend $100-$200 on gas to drive to various trailheads in CO to camp and climb mountains. Once a year I drive to the desert to camp somewhere warm and ride bikes. I love taking little road trips around the southwest to ride bikes...but it's super cheap car camping type travel.  I love where I live though, so being at home usually trumps any kind of traveling. Seems like it saves me a lot of cash, too! I've just never had the "travel bug" I guess...but I've also always made sure I am living in an amazing place with endless outdoor adventures, surrounded by mountains, etc...then I don't feel like I need to leave.

I wanted to comment also on the international travel before college thing. Seriously? Is this a thing that people think kids "should" be doing? My parents could barely afford to help me a little with groceries in college (paid for college with a scholarship). My only focus in high school was getting into a good college, not paying for it, and graduating as soon as possible. I'm sure it was a good experience for kids to do that type of travel before college, but I firmly believe I did not miss out on anything, and honestly from my perspective I was a lot more grounded than most of my classmates.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Cooper62 on February 12, 2019, 09:11:47 AM
Currently about $5,000/year out of the regular budget.  If I get a bonus we may put some of that towards additional travel.  This year taking a four day cruise over spring break with some of the bonus.  The travel budget has definitely crept up that past five years as my two kids entered their teens.  We used to spend a couple thousand a year on a week long trip often to the beach.  My Mother passed away several years ago and made me realize how short life is and I should see some of the places I've been wanting to.  Now have a child in college so may need to cut back.  I love to travel and we live in a low cost of living area and keep expenses low with paid off cars, public schools, packing lunches, etc.  Travel is where I splurge. 
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: MrThatsDifferent on February 12, 2019, 01:42:32 PM
I live in a place many people vacation to, so I don't really travel much. I probably spend $100-$200 on gas to drive to various trailheads in CO to camp and climb mountains. Once a year I drive to the desert to camp somewhere warm and ride bikes. I love taking little road trips around the southwest to ride bikes...but it's super cheap car camping type travel.  I love where I live though, so being at home usually trumps any kind of traveling. Seems like it saves me a lot of cash, too! I've just never had the "travel bug" I guess...but I've also always made sure I am living in an amazing place with endless outdoor adventures, surrounded by mountains, etc...then I don't feel like I need to leave.

I wanted to comment also on the international travel before college thing. Seriously? Is this a thing that people think kids "should" be doing? My parents could barely afford to help me a little with groceries in college (paid for college with a scholarship). My only focus in high school was getting into a good college, not paying for it, and graduating as soon as possible. I'm sure it was a good experience for kids to do that type of travel before college, but I firmly believe I did not miss out on anything, and honestly from my perspective I was a lot more grounded than most of my classmates.

Well, if you didn’t do it, how do you know the benefits? I did a language trip abroad when I was in high school. Few things are better or more enriching than seeing the world. We tend to think of education as showing up in a box everyday to learning things most won’t use. It’s a big world, life is short. Meeting different cultures, eating different foods. Life, social and survival skills all get tested. You learn that it’s not all about you. You learn how lucky you are. You meet people you never would. You become less racist. It’s an amazing gift to give. True, not many can give it, but mustachian aren’t like everyone else.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: FreelanceToFreedom on February 14, 2019, 10:20:21 PM
I'm FIREd so do longer trips (month or 2 at a time) and spend about $1500/month on average travelling solo (less if with someone and splitting costs). That's been for mostly camping road trips with occasional motels in the US or for a monthly vacation house rental in one place. So probably around $6k/ year for 4 months of solo travel.

I expect it to be the same for longer overseas slow travel I plan to do this year. lf solo I budgeted approx $2k/month all in but believe it will be less -  and probably half if travelling with someone else. At this point I already booked a 3 month solo  trip to Europe with r/t airfare for $360 and plan to either bike tour or do a 3 month Eurail Pass (about $300/month). Probably Hostels or cheap AirBNBs or some kind of low cost longer term apt rental. So should easily be able to stay on a budget of $1500 -$2000/month.

ETA currently my travel expenses ARE also my living expenses since I sold my house to travel full time. But back when I owned a place I spent about $6k/ year once FIREd - much less when working as I didn't travel much then.

Nice! That sounds like a great retirement plan. I'm transitioning into full time traveling (still working, just remotely) and I'm interested to see how my expenses change. It obviously depends on the locations you choose, but it's pretty easy to spend a lot less traveling full time than you would living a normal existence most places in the US. Particularly with travel hacking, it can become quite cheap.

For example, we're starting with 4 months in Eastern Europe. Just finished booking all our AirBNB's. We're staying for 1-3 weeks in each city, so slow traveling. Our average monthly "rent" is about $700 - and of course there are no utilities, internet, maintenance costs, etc. Can't really beat that!
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: itchyfeet on February 15, 2019, 03:46:00 AM
I am guilty of spending a bomb on travel.

DW and I know we have a spending problem here, but as we are Expats living on the other side of the world from our homes, we are drawn into a lefestyle of constant world exploration.

We have had many trips of a lifetime over the past 5 years and this year will be the same. $$$$$

In FIRE, once we have repatriated, we will have to spend much less. Before we became “ expats” we spent much less.

But at the moment there is always another flight just around the corner.

This week I’ll be in europe for work and DW will tag along at our expense. I’ll fly back to australia next month for a family event. In April we will be in Portugal. In august we will be in Sweden. It’s a bit ridiculous, but will all be over soon.

Our future will be slow travel, at a far lower cost/day.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: londonbanker on February 15, 2019, 08:44:22 PM
We spend about £10k on average a year on travel. We live in the UK, but my parents now live in France and my in laws retired in Thailand. The kids spend most holidays on the sea side in France (3-4 trips a year) and we spend Christmas in Thailand to get some much needed winter sun. That Thai trip is usually £5-6k alone.
Although it is quite a material amount,  we always felt it was important for the kids to see their grandparents.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: DeltaBond on February 16, 2019, 05:02:47 AM
Hmm, this is easy, $0.00 lmao

What do I win? lol
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: MrThatsDifferent on February 16, 2019, 01:09:39 PM
Hmm, this is easy, $0.00 lmao

What do I win? lol

As the kids would say “weird flex but ok”
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: MonkeyJenga on February 16, 2019, 08:18:03 PM
For half of 2018, travel expenses replaced rent. I can't get into my cc transactions to verify, but rough guess is $1,600-$2,600 for 5 months.

$1,000 - $2,000 for a whole bunch of bus, train, and plane tickets Jan-April (stayed with friends, family, and campaign housing)
$30 for a NY > DC bus ticket in September (had a ride DC > NY, stayed with friends)
$600-ish in December for 3 weeks in California (flights and some cabs, stayed with a friend)
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: clarkfan1979 on February 17, 2019, 01:09:44 AM
We are normally around $10,000/year. We spent $16,000 last year because we had our first child and paraded him around to family and friends. We should go back to $10,000 this year.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Just Joe on February 23, 2019, 12:03:58 AM
Generally we take a "big" trip every two years or so.

Last year it was NYC for our family of four plus a friend of one of our teens. We drove to NYC, ate out some, tickets for museums, bike rentals, Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island, hotel in the city, etc. About $4K. Left our family car with friends outside the city and rode the train in.

Big trip before that was a beach trip. A week of near beach condo rental, grocery store trips, a little eating out, a little seafood from the fresh market, gas money, maybe a museum trip (fort exploring last time) and some fun amusement stuff for the kids. Less than $2K for the week.

Then once in a while we'll do a weekend trip to a tourist town we like. Couple nights in a hotel, restaurants, gas money, hiking, etc. Few hundred dollars.

Trips to see family involve gas money. We do the trip in a day, spend the night with family - try to help with groceries or occasionally eat out if the extended family group wants to. Not much tourist stuff done b/c its all old hat to them. When the kids were little we'd take them to a trampoline park occasionally.

We don't budget for these trips, we just take the cost out of savings b/c we don't invest every last cent. Nothing we do with that money affects our retirement plans at all.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: AlotToLearn on March 30, 2019, 09:11:37 AM
This post is eye opening for me. Income range is 160K annually, and last year I spent approx 5k on travel just for me.
That was for 7 trips, including 1 cruise.

This year I have prepaid a few trips for later in the year, however will look to cut the budget by 10 percent.


One question for all - Is everyone solely including the costs of travel or what you spend while on vacation? I can get to Disney and stay for 4 nights for 1000-1500, but might spend another 500 while there.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: OtherJen on March 30, 2019, 12:29:58 PM
We’ve never budgeted, but we aren’t frequent or extravagant travelers. This year, I expect that we’ll spend about $1800 total on a couple of in-state multi-night camping trips, a hotel room for 2 nights at on-season rates so that we can attend a family reunion in a resort town on the other side of the state, and 3 nights on Mackinac Island at off-season hotel rates (plus ferry tickets). We always try to bring our own food or stock up at local grocers as much as possible, and both hotel rooms will have a fridge and microwave. Still, we’re not going to turn down a big dinner out with family during the reunion weekend, and Mackinac Island has too many good restaurants not to have dinner out every night.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Cranky on March 30, 2019, 04:17:45 PM
I don't especially enjoy traveling, being a Homebody Extrodinaire, but I *do* enjoy spending time with my family, and I good way to do that is to lure them into a Fun Vacation situation. So we do something vacation-y every summer. Last year we went to a water park resort.

This summer we are meeting my sister and her dh in Florida for the purpose of interring our mom's ashes in the family plot, but we are spending the week at the beach as well. I'm budgeting about $5000 for this (I've got the accommodations all paid for at this point) for the 5 adults and one small child from my family, and really will pay for most of my sister and her dh's housing expense as well.

Dh and I will probably go to Wisconsin a couple of times to see dd, as well, but that's cheap.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Villanelle on March 30, 2019, 06:45:30 PM
We've had years that were $10k+, and years where it was probably $300 in gas money for a handful of trips to see family less than 2 hours away. 

Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: BlueMR2 on March 31, 2019, 04:37:44 PM
$0 budgeted for travel.  Just not a thing we do anymore.  Did some traveling in our earlier years, but no longer have much interest in it (or at least our interest in it is lower than our interest in having money to invest).
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: JGS1980 on March 31, 2019, 06:11:52 PM
We spent about $6500 last year, $3500 the prior 2 years, and $6500 3 years ago.  My guess is our family of five probably have 10K in travel per year, but travel hacking mitigates this quite a bit. We just booked $2500 in flights for about $500. Hotels and AirBNB for our coming 2 week trip will be mostly covered by credit card points. A few nights at friends' homes will help as well.

Travel makes us happy. It's definitely pur thing worse splurging on. I look forward to spending MORE on travel when we FIRE.
Title: Re: What is everyones travel/vacation budget per year?
Post by: Just Joe on April 01, 2019, 08:19:07 AM
Our budget varies b/c our vacation preferences are changing as we get older. Clean and quiet is important. I don't enjoy traffic or crowds. I have no idea how we'll ever visit some of the famous places. ;)

This year DW will fly to the west coast to see friends. I'll stay at home - we have a number of projects that need attention. We'll likely do a few weekend trips over the course of the year - camping, landmark exploration, hiking, etc.