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What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?

< 0%: I'm Bleeding money
2 (1%)
0 to 5%
16 (8.2%)
5.01 to 10%
8 (4.1%)
10.01 to 20%
22 (11.2%)
20.01 to 30%
28 (14.3%)
30.01 to 40%
21 (10.7%)
40.01 to 50%
16 (8.2%)
50.01 to 60%
12 (6.1%)
60.01 to 70%
17 (8.7%)
70.01 to 80%
8 (4.1%)
80.01 to 90% and FIREd
0 (0%)
80.01 to 90% and NOT FIREd
15 (7.7%)
90.01 to 100% and FIREd
2 (1%)
90.01 to 100% and NOT FIREd
5 (2.6%)
100.01 to 110% and FIREd
5 (2.6%)
100.01 to 110% and NOT FIREd
4 (2%)
110.01% and up, and FIREd
8 (4.1%)
110.01% and up, and NOT FIREd
6 (3.1%)
FIREd, other %
1 (0.5%)

Total Members Voted: 196

Voting closes: February 06, 2019, 08:56:21 PM

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2019, 06:20:07 AM »
I was touching right at 100% at the top of the market and closer to 90% now, though its all fairly grey as I'm still trying to settle on what my target income is.

There's a tough problem.  Not one that many folks would commiserate with you with, though. :)

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2019, 03:10:58 PM »
148 respondents at the moment.   The last two polls had 500 and 320 respondents.

Get out the vote!

Enquiring minds want to know how you are doing!

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2019, 07:12:02 PM »
Tell us some more stories about where you are and how you're getting there! :)

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2019, 07:18:03 PM »
We're at 110.01+ % and FIRED.

Income is a blend of rented out farmland, rental homes, stocks and bonds, and social security.

We have some US savings bonds that have matured and we're about ready to cash them in.  Don't know whether we'll be able to do that in a timely manner at the moment.   That may impact our ability to invest in real estate this year as they are enough to buy and refurbish a rental home similar to those we already have -- without requiring us to take out a loan or sell our stock.




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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2019, 07:34:30 PM »
12.8% are FIRED or FIRE-ready.    We need to hear from more folks!

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2019, 08:38:02 PM »
Activity and participation on the boards have ebb'd and flowed with the market, it seems.


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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2019, 08:54:56 PM »
Activity and participation on the boards have ebb'd and flowed with the market, it seems.

You may be right!

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« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2019, 09:02:42 PM »
Activity and participation on the boards have ebb'd and flowed with the market, it seems.
We're pretty diversified.    Between several different index funds for stocks, some US bonds, some farmland and homes we rent out, and some social security, we've tried to spread our risk around.   

So even though we FIRED midway thru last year, we actually had our net worth go up (a small amount) last year.   

When we're renovating a house to rent out, I consider it worth what we paid for it until it's rent-ready.  Then I take into account the value all the improvements made to the value of the house.   Our End-of-Year Net Worth would have gone up another $33K if we had finished repairing rental #4 in December instead of later this month.

Think about that!   We not only quit both our jobs half way thru the year, but we now have more wealth than we did at the start of the year -- and that's in a market that went down a bit for the year.

Is this a great country or what!!??

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2019, 04:45:55 AM »
Just broke into the 10-20% range.  I am a Index investor and am counting dividends only as yearly returns in the market is too short a time period as proven last year.

ETA:  Just removed my vote, I'm way above the 10-20% range based on total plan.  I don't have the coffee in me to figure it out right now.
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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2019, 05:40:16 AM »
@SwordGuy, it sure is!!

I'm lucky enough that my firehose of cash and relatively low assets allowed for a 15% NW increase for 2018, despite losing quite a bit in the market.

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2019, 01:30:06 PM »
@SwordGuy, it sure is!!

I'm lucky enough that my firehose of cash and relatively low assets allowed for a 15% NW increase for 2018, despite losing quite a bit in the market.

@2Birds1Stone , funny, 'cause I think I'm lucky to have my NW drop by lots when the market drops.  :)

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2019, 09:49:34 PM »
As of today I am at 107%, not FIRED.  This includes the 17% loss of stache since the end of September.   

I am starting to figure that my planned SWR is over-conservative and I really can do a straight up 4% without worries.  If I go as I hoped I will be 50 and according to the recently posted death chart I might only need 36 years of money instead of my expected later exit.  Lucky that!  /sarc.   

Interesting phenomenon though, with the market flopping around I am doing new analyses and getting some confidence back on how I could still go as planned rather than wait OMY.  The trip through the chaos has helped me get tuned up on my plan.  I have been re-reading some inspirational stuff and trying to get a grip. 

Sheesh, my posts are giving me whiplash-- Will she?  Won't she?  Tune in tomorrow and see if Nancy gets off the pot.

@MissNancyPryor , is you is or is you ain't?

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2019, 10:25:54 PM »
I didn't participate in 2016, but in 2017 I was in the 80-90% and not FIREd group.  After the drop we're at either 90-100% or 100-110% and not FIREd, depending on our budget update and the withdrawal rate we finally decide we're comfortable with.  I voted as 90-100% and not FIREd because I would probably be ok but very nervous if I actually did something worthy of the Epic FU money thread.

@FIRE 20/20 , yeah, I found my tolerance for bullshit started to dramatically drop in the last couple of years I worked.   Thankfully, we're done with that.

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« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2019, 10:00:49 AM »
Halfway to getting the same number of people voting as last time.   Get your votes in! :)

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2019, 11:17:58 AM »
I was touching right at 100% at the top of the market and closer to 90% now, though its all fairly grey as I'm still trying to settle on what my target income is.
@Much Fishing to Do ,
Where has the recent up-tick in the market put you?

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2019, 11:19:35 PM »
Look guys, if you want this poll to get a lot of votes, it has to stay near the top of the list in its category.  That means it needs to be posted to every day until polling closes on5-Feb. 


Y'all aren't giving me much to work with...   Include some background to go with your vote!

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #66 on: January 17, 2019, 03:25:34 PM »
Currently, 14.6% are either FIRED or FIRE-ready.   

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2019, 06:15:17 PM »
We started this journey later in life, and figure we can just about retire at age 60-62 and pick up our social security, which will help us, so not counting the SS, the wife and I are at about 40-45%.
FI should be in about 4-5 years, with retirement at about 60 for the wife and 62 for me.
All of this depends on a lot of things, so we'll see how that works out. Luckily we both like what we do...

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« Reply #68 on: January 17, 2019, 07:48:45 PM »
We started this journey later in life, and figure we can just about retire at age 60-62 and pick up our social security, which will help us, so not counting the SS, the wife and I are at about 40-45%.
FI should be in about 4-5 years, with retirement at about 60 for the wife and 62 for me.
All of this depends on a lot of things, so we'll see how that works out. Luckily we both like what we do...

Very cool!   I FIRED at 60 (learned the info MMM shares late in life) so I totally get where you're at.

Make sure your FIRE plans work with just one person's SS.   Use the other person's SS as a safety buffer or for fun money.   That's because if one of you dies, the smaller of the two SS checks will disappear. :(   For some reason I almost never see that mentioned in the FIRE literature...

One of the cool things about being on the FIRE path is that it's so flexible once you get a bit of momentum built up.

Stocks keep going up for the next 5 years?  Woot!    You'll fire with more money!

Stocks go down for the next few years but you keep investing?   Woot!   You'll fire with more money!

As long as your FIRE date is a bit flexible, it literally is a win-win situation.

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #69 on: January 18, 2019, 10:33:28 AM »
Since joining MMM in 2015 when i was somewhere around -0.5% to 0.5% I have seen my % go up about 4.5% annually (so that means I am at 18% now). I wonder how much of that was market growth...
I have to say I picked a withdrawal rate of 4%, generating 40K, even though I haven't ever spent more than 24K in my life (just planning for hiccups in life!). So I could be much closer to my goal... or not.
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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #70 on: January 18, 2019, 06:59:39 PM »
Since joining MMM in 2015 when i was somewhere around -0.5% to 0.5% I have seen my % go up about 4.5% annually (so that means I am at 18% now). I wonder how much of that was market growth...
I have to say I picked a withdrawal rate of 4%, generating 40K, even though I haven't ever spent more than 24K in my life (just planning for hiccups in life!). So I could be much closer to my goal... or not.

So, @JZinCO , 18% of the way to a Fat FIRE and 30% to a Lean FIRE.  Not bad for 3-4 years!

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #71 on: January 18, 2019, 09:07:58 PM »
274% and FIREd.

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« Reply #72 on: January 18, 2019, 11:51:30 PM »
Since joining MMM in 2015 when i was somewhere around -0.5% to 0.5% I have seen my % go up about 4.5% annually (so that means I am at 18% now). I wonder how much of that was market growth...
I have to say I picked a withdrawal rate of 4%, generating 40K, even though I haven't ever spent more than 24K in my life (just planning for hiccups in life!). So I could be much closer to my goal... or not.

So, @JZinCO , 18% of the way to a Fat FIRE and 30% to a Lean FIRE.  Not bad for 3-4 years!
Thank you! The encouragements on this forum mean alot, especially from those like you who have accomplished much. Sometimes it feels like watching water boil.
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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #73 on: January 19, 2019, 11:19:05 AM »
I didn't participate in 2016, but in 2017 I was in the 80-90% and not FIREd group.  After the drop we're at either 90-100% or 100-110% and not FIREd, depending on our budget update and the withdrawal rate we finally decide we're comfortable with.  I voted as 90-100% and not FIREd because I would probably be ok but very nervous if I actually did something worthy of the Epic FU money thread.

With the market growth since I posted this, a minor reassessment (downward) to our FIRE budget, plus contributions we're now about 110% of our target.  I'm feeling more and more confident about pulling the plug in a few months. 

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« Reply #74 on: January 19, 2019, 07:46:32 PM »
I didn't participate in 2016, but in 2017 I was in the 80-90% and not FIREd group.  After the drop we're at either 90-100% or 100-110% and not FIREd, depending on our budget update and the withdrawal rate we finally decide we're comfortable with.  I voted as 90-100% and not FIREd because I would probably be ok but very nervous if I actually did something worthy of the Epic FU money thread.

With the market growth since I posted this, a minor reassessment (downward) to our FIRE budget, plus contributions we're now about 110% of our target.  I'm feeling more and more confident about pulling the plug in a few months.
Yeah @FIRE 20/20 !!!!   Did you sign up on the 2019 Cohort thread?

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #75 on: January 19, 2019, 07:57:24 PM »
I was touching right at 100% at the top of the market and closer to 90% now, though its all fairly grey as I'm still trying to settle on what my target income is.
@Much Fishing to Do ,
Where has the recent up-tick in the market put you?
Like the market in general about half way back to the top, so about at 95% using the same target numbers.  BUt I'm also starting to believe that target was higher than needed so maybe its really more like 100% now anyway.

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« Reply #76 on: January 20, 2019, 07:54:33 AM »
I didn't participate in 2016, but in 2017 I was in the 80-90% and not FIREd group.  After the drop we're at either 90-100% or 100-110% and not FIREd, depending on our budget update and the withdrawal rate we finally decide we're comfortable with.  I voted as 90-100% and not FIREd because I would probably be ok but very nervous if I actually did something worthy of the Epic FU money thread.

With the market growth since I posted this, a minor reassessment (downward) to our FIRE budget, plus contributions we're now about 110% of our target.  I'm feeling more and more confident about pulling the plug in a few months.
Yeah @FIRE 20/20 !!!!   Did you sign up on the 2019 Cohort thread?

Yep, I signed up for the 2020 thread back in 2016 and moved into the 2019 cohort thread in 2017.  4 more months! 

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« Reply #77 on: January 20, 2019, 08:41:14 PM »
I didn't participate in 2016, but in 2017 I was in the 80-90% and not FIREd group.  After the drop we're at either 90-100% or 100-110% and not FIREd, depending on our budget update and the withdrawal rate we finally decide we're comfortable with.  I voted as 90-100% and not FIREd because I would probably be ok but very nervous if I actually did something worthy of the Epic FU money thread.

With the market growth since I posted this, a minor reassessment (downward) to our FIRE budget, plus contributions we're now about 110% of our target.  I'm feeling more and more confident about pulling the plug in a few months.
Yeah @FIRE 20/20 !!!!   Did you sign up on the 2019 Cohort thread?

Yep, I signed up for the 2020 thread back in 2016 and moved into the 2019 cohort thread in 2017.  4 more months!


I don't know how to explain that this is possible, but that 4 months will go incredibly fast and take forever all at the same time.

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« Reply #78 on: January 20, 2019, 08:42:09 PM »
I didn't participate in 2016, but in 2017 I was in the 80-90% and not FIREd group.  After the drop we're at either 90-100% or 100-110% and not FIREd, depending on our budget update and the withdrawal rate we finally decide we're comfortable with.  I voted as 90-100% and not FIREd because I would probably be ok but very nervous if I actually did something worthy of the Epic FU money thread.

With the market growth since I posted this, a minor reassessment (downward) to our FIRE budget, plus contributions we're now about 110% of our target.  I'm feeling more and more confident about pulling the plug in a few months.
Yeah @FIRE 20/20 !!!!   Did you sign up on the 2019 Cohort thread?

Yep, I signed up for the 2020 thread back in 2016 and moved into the 2019 cohort thread in 2017.  4 more months!

I don't know how to explain that this is possible ,but  that 4 months will go both incredibly fast and take absolutely forever at the same time.

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Re: What's your CURRENT % of your Target Passive Income as of EOY 2018?
« Reply #79 on: January 21, 2019, 07:19:07 PM »
Currently at 13.4% FIRED or FIRE-ready.