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We're moving onto a boat!
« on: September 12, 2015, 11:51:35 AM »
I know that it doesn't sound too frugal but if everything else is cut out then it's very doable. I recently put a little credit towards MMM for getting us to where we are today! You can see it and other post about our plan to move on a boat and sail away at www.lazygeckos.net.  You can also like our Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/lazygeckos

The post that describes our budget for sailing and linking to MMM is at http://lazygeckos.net/2015/09/11/lets-talk-cash-how-can-the-lazy-geckos-afford-that/
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2015, 02:32:40 PM »
Congrats on the change! I'm in the process of doing the same thing. I plan on increasing my sailing skill over the next year before I buy a boat. I'm 33yo and single (don't want kids). I'm planning on getting a 32 footer. Hopefully I'll find a pretty lady one day that loves to sail.

Looking at your blog I'm not really sure if you want a blue water boat. If you do I recommend http://bluewaterboats.org/about/index/ tons of good info. Just because a boat is big it doesn't mean it will handle a storm well.

Best of luck and I'm looking forward to updates.
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2015, 02:53:47 PM »
Also don't rule out a cutter or a ketch. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but these designs are better for short handed sailors. The area of the sail is closer to the deck so the  boat won't heel as much as a Bermuda sloop in strong winds. Important when you have a wife and baby on board. I prefer the classic look of a cutter to a sloop anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2015, 06:46:55 PM »
I have some friends who moved onto a boat sometime around the end of uni, and managed to get live -aboard status at the marina. I think boat was about 10k, annula fee for staying on the boat at the marina was $250. That included unlimited hotwater, power etc. very cheap for them.

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2015, 07:31:54 PM »
Thank you for the replies! You can also get updates if you'll like our Facebook page at "Lazy Geckos". https://www.facebook.com/lazygeckos

The only real reason I posted this on MMM is because without this site I would have never been in the position to be able to do something like this.  My spending was once out of control and this site really helped me realize how stupid that was.

LLCoolDave, thanks for the suggestions...We are looking for a boat that will fare well if we decide to get out into bluewater and will also do well as a liveaboard.  Rigging isn't a huge concern for us, it can be a Sloop, Cutter etc...But we did think about staying away from a Ketch due to the increase in sheets! Cost for replacement is the concern there.

Living aboard and cruising can be very cost effective Flyingkea.  There are a lot of resources out there to show how so.  Please feel free to like our page and follow along, we will be making videos as well.  It will be very active.

As of now (you can see this on the blog if you choose), we have sold a lot of our things and we've downgraded into a basement apartment.  Once I retire in November(I'm 40, the wife is 27), we will sell the remaining household items (all of it) and buy the boat....Move onto it, do any repairs it needs and then set sail.  We will be cruising from Tampa to the Keys, the Bahamas and then the Caribbean.  After a year or two there we plan to start a circumnavigation. 

We hope you'll follow along as we are so thankful of this site (MMM).  It's really gotten us here!
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2015, 07:48:07 PM »
That's amazing!  I am very impressed! I considered this years ago.  Decided to go with an RV instead, but did love this idea too!

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2015, 08:34:18 PM »
Generally, people who want to sail the Caribbean as a first stop, they do it then they stop sailing after a year or two. I've read a lot of blogs and watched a lot of vlogs.  It's not a challenging area. It's as much a dream as a lifestyle.  Anchoring will be your biggest difficulty, not sailing.

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2015, 09:55:53 PM »
Sounds awesome! Keep everyone updated on how it goes! I secretly dream of sailing a Amel Super Maramu 53' :)

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2015, 11:13:04 PM »
Is this something you are actually doing? Or thinking of doing?

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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2015, 12:01:59 AM »
I look forward to checking out your website at home -- it's blocked at work.  The government is out to get you bro, haha.

My wife and I are also going to be living aboard a sailboat, but for only part of each year.  Most of our investments are actually going towards the purchase of a boat and house years from now.

If any of you have a favorite film/book to learn about sailing, then please let me know!  I've seen quite a bit of stuff, but nothing that was exceptional.

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2015, 12:03:45 AM »
Claimom, This is something that we are in the final stage of actually doing after years of planning!  We've moved from our 4br home to a small basement apartment, we've sold most of our belongings.  Once we get to Florida in November, we will sell the rest of our household goods, buy the boat and move onto it. We invite you to check out the blog for sure! We post regularly and will only increase in posting as we get closer and get moving!

Cole, Have you ever watched SV Delos on YouTube? Sailing the world in a 53' Super Maramu?! Pure awesomeness!

LLCoolDave, we are planning on going there to get our skills built up as far as sailing skills and then moving on.  We aren't limited at all so we will see how long we stay there.

Thank you Meadow Lark! We may do the RV idea someday as well! Please click like on our Facebook (Lazy Geckos) and you'll get all of our updates!

Love it forummm!

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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2015, 12:05:30 AM »
I look forward to checking out your website at home -- it's blocked at work.  The government is out to get you bro, haha.

My wife and I are also going to be living aboard a sailboat, but for only part of each year.  Most of our investments are actually going towards the purchase of a boat and house years from now.

If any of you have a favorite film/book to learn about sailing, then please let me know!  I've seen quite a bit of stuff, but nothing that was exceptional.

No, they really are! Haha..I also use a .gov computer at work so I know! Love the plan, so happy to see others out there with the same idea! Especially Mustachians! Favorite movie about sailing?  Captain Ron of course! lol

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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2015, 04:42:23 AM »
Sounds fantastic!  I could for sure do that.  You'll have a blast.  It's great that you are doing this with a baby.  My DH, 2 kids and I just finished two years of slow travel - not on a boat though (can't wait to go again). 

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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2015, 11:57:38 AM »
Sounds fantastic!  I could for sure do that.  You'll have a blast.  It's great that you are doing this with a baby.  My DH, 2 kids and I just finished two years of slow travel - not on a boat though (can't wait to go again).

At first we weren't sure if it were possible with kids but we quickly realized that tons of people do it with little ones!  We are so excited!

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2015, 12:03:13 PM »
You've read this; Sailing Alone Around the World by Joshua Slocum - http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/6317

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2015, 01:43:57 PM »
Awesome! I've always thought about doing the liveaboard thing. From my understanding it can be done fairly frugally, or or course the sky is the limit. Be sure it's what you want before selling the house and your stuff. Best done in a warm climate.

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2015, 02:27:17 PM »
You're a maniac! Good luck!

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2015, 07:29:52 PM »
You're a maniac! Good luck!
You see a maniac, I see someone who's trying to drive traffic to his own site by posting links here. IMHO, it's not cool to draft on Pete's bike rims without his express permission, which you do have, right?

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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2015, 09:33:33 PM »
You're a maniac! Good luck!
You see a maniac, I see someone who's trying to drive traffic to his own site by posting links here. IMHO, it's not cool to draft on Pete's bike rims without his express permission, which you do have, right?

Not at all...doesn't matter how many people look at that site to me. Not like I do or ever will get paid for that and that blog has nothing to do about money other than saying how we got to where we are while mentioning MMM as our inspiration in the same sentence. I was simply expressing what we are doing after using MMM's suggestions about my finances. 

If anything, it's showing what following his blog can do for someone, IMHO.
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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2015, 09:46:25 PM »
You're a maniac! Good luck!
You see a maniac, I see someone who's trying to drive traffic to his own site by posting links here. IMHO, it's not cool to draft on Pete's bike rims without his express permission, which you do have, right?

Not at all...doesn't matter how many people look at that site to me. Not like I do or ever will get paid for that and that blog has nothing to do about money other than saying how we got to where we are while mentioning MMM as our inspiration in the same sentence. I was simply expressing what we are doing after using MMM's suggestions about my finances. 

If anything, it's showing what following his blog can do for someone, IMHO.
Why not put the story here instead of just links to your site?

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2015, 09:47:50 PM »
Cole, Have you ever watched SV Delos on YouTube? Sailing the world in a 53' Super Maramu?! Pure awesomeness!
Those guys are awesome. I have watched every single episode and read every blog post! :)

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2015, 10:01:10 PM »
Cole, Have you ever watched SV Delos on YouTube? Sailing the world in a 53' Super Maramu?! Pure awesomeness!
Those guys are awesome. I have watched every single episode and read every blog post! :)

Us as well! It's like a night event here at our house when they drop a new one! lol...Good stuff!

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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2015, 09:19:54 AM »
Congratulations! What a great adventure your embarking on. The people you'll meet, the places you'll go.

My wife and I lived on a boat for 10 years cruising the Pacific coast from Alaska to Central America and we just recently sold the boat and are moving back to land.

How much does it cost? How much do you have?  But it's worth every penny.

Live the dream.
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2015, 09:35:27 AM »
Awesome! Thanks for sharing the links. I look forwards to hearing more!

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2015, 12:07:03 PM »
Congratulations! What a great adventure your embarking on. The people you'll meet, the places you'll go.

My wife and I lived on a boat for 10 years cruising the Pacific coast from Alaska to Central America and we just recently sold the boat and are moving back to land.

How much does it cost? How much do you have?  But it's worth every penny.

Live the dream.
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Thanks everyone! Wow Frank that's amazing! 10 years!!  We are so looking forward to getting out there and making those memories as well!

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2015, 04:05:56 PM »
Wow, that's a lot of fun.

I lived on a boat for a few years at one point, and just recently sold our non livaboard boat. 

A few pointers, first on learning to sail and then on buying a boat.

Learning to sail

The best way to learn is by doing, as always.  There are courses that are well worth taking and I encourage you to do so.  However, there is also a very mustachian way to learn to sail, and it's a lot of fun. 

Find the local sailboat racing clubs.  Most of them are full of boats that are desperate for crew, and will take on novices.  By desperate I mean they usually race shorthanded because it's hard to find people willing and interested, especially over the course of an entire racing season.

Find out when the races are and put your name(s) out there.  Some clubs will have a spot where crew can just show up and get recruited on the spot for a particular race.  You will find some skippers are jerks, but most are good people. 

Racing is a lot of fun, usually completely free for local racing, and a great way to learn how to sail a boat to its absolute limit without risking your own gear and cash.  When you go cruising later you will stay well within the comfort envelope, but will be well prepared and even comfortable when things get windy and/or hazardous because you've experienced it while racing.

When I used to race I could have gone out as much as 4 times/week in the summer, and 2x/week in the winter.  The only limit was how much time I had available.

Buying a boat

Never buy a boat that can't be sailed 10 minutes after you complete the transaction.  I've seen more than a few marriages and dreams hit the rocks with 'project boats'.  Don't do it.  Maintain, don't build.  There are boat builders and boat sailors, and they usually aren't the same people.

Low maintenance is the key.  Aluminim mast, fiberglass hull, good diesel engine are the lowest hanging fruit.  Every beautiful little piece of wood requires maintenance.  Wood boats are beautiful but literally a full time job to maintain. 

Costs go up exponentially with the size of the boat.  You can get a great 28' boat for $8-10K, a great 32' boat for 20-30K and a great 40' boat for 40-60K.  As the boat gets bigger, every little part gets bigger with it.  Bigger sails, bigger motor, bigger lines, bigger blocks etc).  Get a decent size boat, but be suspicious if it is really cheap.  Of course, comfort goes up with size as well (though not necessarily at sea).

Get a boat that is fairly common, so if something does break the parts are easy to come by and don't need to be custom built.  It is way easier and cheaper to replace a piece from a Catalina or a C&C (for example) than a custom built boat. 

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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2015, 10:05:59 AM »
You're a maniac! Good luck!
You see a maniac, I see someone who's trying to drive traffic to his own site by posting links here. IMHO, it's not cool to draft on Pete's bike rims without his express permission, which you do have, right?
When I first saw this response I thought 'wow, how prickish', so I then checked on your other comments and was surprised to see they were all very helpful and added to the commentary, and that you came across as a very nice person.

So, I'm not sure what spurred on this negative reaction.  I think it's pretty cool that the OP gave us links to his journey and I'm looking forward to following his adventure. These kind of updates are why I come to MMM.  And, I think it's ridiculous to ask him to double-post his updates, on his blog as well as in this thread.  Seems the links are a far better way to do that.

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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2015, 11:19:01 AM »
You're a maniac! Good luck!
You see a maniac, I see someone who's trying to drive traffic to his own site by posting links here. IMHO, it's not cool to draft on Pete's bike rims without his express permission, which you do have, right?
When I first saw this response I thought 'wow, how prickish', so I then checked on your other comments and was surprised to see they were all very helpful and added to the commentary, and that you came across as a very nice person.

So, I'm not sure what spurred on this negative reaction.  I think it's pretty cool that the OP gave us links to his journey and I'm looking forward to following his adventure. These kind of updates are why I come to MMM.  And, I think it's ridiculous to ask him to double-post his updates, on his blog as well as in this thread.  Seems the links are a far better way to do that.

+1 The internet (and this forum) is big enough for everyone. If it was just a spammer then Diane would be correct. The OP is a fan and I don't have a problem with people sharing their story through a blog. If it was against forum rules then the thread would have been removed by the moderators by now.

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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2015, 11:26:25 AM »
Wow, that's a lot of fun.

I lived on a boat for a few years at one point, and just recently sold our non livaboard boat. 

A few pointers, first on learning to sail and then on buying a boat.

Learning to sail

The best way to learn is by doing, as always.  There are courses that are well worth taking and I encourage you to do so.  However, there is also a very mustachian way to learn to sail, and it's a lot of fun. 

Find the local sailboat racing clubs.  Most of them are full of boats that are desperate for crew, and will take on novices.  By desperate I mean they usually race shorthanded because it's hard to find people willing and interested, especially over the course of an entire racing season.

Find out when the races are and put your name(s) out there.  Some clubs will have a spot where crew can just show up and get recruited on the spot for a particular race.  You will find some skippers are jerks, but most are good people. 

Racing is a lot of fun, usually completely free for local racing, and a great way to learn how to sail a boat to its absolute limit without risking your own gear and cash.  When you go cruising later you will stay well within the comfort envelope, but will be well prepared and even comfortable when things get windy and/or hazardous because you've experienced it while racing.

When I used to race I could have gone out as much as 4 times/week in the summer, and 2x/week in the winter.  The only limit was how much time I had available.

Buying a boat

Never buy a boat that can't be sailed 10 minutes after you complete the transaction.  I've seen more than a few marriages and dreams hit the rocks with 'project boats'.  Don't do it.  Maintain, don't build.  There are boat builders and boat sailors, and they usually aren't the same people.

Low maintenance is the key.  Aluminim mast, fiberglass hull, good diesel engine are the lowest hanging fruit.  Every beautiful little piece of wood requires maintenance.  Wood boats are beautiful but literally a full time job to maintain. 

Costs go up exponentially with the size of the boat.  You can get a great 28' boat for $8-10K, a great 32' boat for 20-30K and a great 40' boat for 40-60K.  As the boat gets bigger, every little part gets bigger with it.  Bigger sails, bigger motor, bigger lines, bigger blocks etc).  Get a decent size boat, but be suspicious if it is really cheap.  Of course, comfort goes up with size as well (though not necessarily at sea).

Get a boat that is fairly common, so if something does break the parts are easy to come by and don't need to be custom built.  It is way easier and cheaper to replace a piece from a Catalina or a C&C (for example) than a custom built boat.

Rocketpj, what an outstanding post! Thank you for your advice, we will certainly use it! We were right on track with most everything you said too, which is exciting! We are looking at a boat that is 37'-43' in length and as you know, we are very mustachian so expense will be important.  We are hoping to find something in 'sail ready' condition for around 60k, we plan on purchasing with cash and then putting about 10-20k into it for needed repairs and upgrades...It must have AC and we'd like a watermaker as well (these items aren't cheap).  We are hoping to have a very decent boat (rigging, sails, engine, etc) by that point that we can set sail with for a good long time with only the normal maintenance. Great info on the races too! We are both planning on taking various ASA courses but that suggestion is a GREAT idea and we will certainly check into it!  Thanks again!
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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2015, 05:45:30 PM »
Really cool! All the best and smooth sailing!

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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2015, 10:28:51 PM »
Wow, that's a lot of fun.

I lived on a boat for a few years at one point, and just recently sold our non livaboard boat. 

A few pointers, first on learning to sail and then on buying a boat.

Learning to sail

The best way to learn is by doing, as always.  There are courses that are well worth taking and I encourage you to do so.  However, there is also a very mustachian way to learn to sail, and it's a lot of fun. 

Find the local sailboat racing clubs.  Most of them are full of boats that are desperate for crew, and will take on novices.  By desperate I mean they usually race shorthanded because it's hard to find people willing and interested, especially over the course of an entire racing season.

Find out when the races are and put your name(s) out there.  Some clubs will have a spot where crew can just show up and get recruited on the spot for a particular race.  You will find some skippers are jerks, but most are good people. 

Racing is a lot of fun, usually completely free for local racing, and a great way to learn how to sail a boat to its absolute limit without risking your own gear and cash.  When you go cruising later you will stay well within the comfort envelope, but will be well prepared and even comfortable when things get windy and/or hazardous because you've experienced it while racing.

When I used to race I could have gone out as much as 4 times/week in the summer, and 2x/week in the winter.  The only limit was how much time I had available.

Buying a boat

Never buy a boat that can't be sailed 10 minutes after you complete the transaction.  I've seen more than a few marriages and dreams hit the rocks with 'project boats'.  Don't do it.  Maintain, don't build.  There are boat builders and boat sailors, and they usually aren't the same people.

Low maintenance is the key.  Aluminim mast, fiberglass hull, good diesel engine are the lowest hanging fruit.  Every beautiful little piece of wood requires maintenance.  Wood boats are beautiful but literally a full time job to maintain. 

Costs go up exponentially with the size of the boat.  You can get a great 28' boat for $8-10K, a great 32' boat for 20-30K and a great 40' boat for 40-60K.  As the boat gets bigger, every little part gets bigger with it.  Bigger sails, bigger motor, bigger lines, bigger blocks etc).  Get a decent size boat, but be suspicious if it is really cheap.  Of course, comfort goes up with size as well (though not necessarily at sea).

Get a boat that is fairly common, so if something does break the parts are easy to come by and don't need to be custom built.  It is way easier and cheaper to replace a piece from a Catalina or a C&C (for example) than a custom built boat.
If you had the kind of attitude MMM has, I'll bet you'd be OK with a project boat. But not a lot of people have that "love work" attitude, so it pays to be cautious.

Also, there's a matter of the expense. I have been reading that sundowner blog and while it's amazing what they've done, they have sunk about $100k into that boat. Looking around at local listings, it's easy to find sailboats in the same class with less than ten years on them for $30k less than what they've spent.

Does that mean I think they made a mistake? No! Or at least, an honest one. Usually it is better to fix'er up than to buy a newer thing. But it's just something to be aware of.

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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2015, 10:36:04 PM »
I have been reading that sundowner blog and while it's amazing what they've done, they have sunk about $100k into that boat. Looking around at local listings, it's easy to find sailboats in the same class with less than ten years on them for $30k less than what they've spent.
I think it's the difference between buying a boat knowing you will have to replace the engine and buying a boat not knowing you are going to have to replace the engine ;-)

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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2015, 10:43:02 PM »
Perhaps so, perhaps. But, for example, I saw a 2006 Catalina 34' for $80k with less than 300 hours on the engine. (Presumably this can be verified somehow -- I'm not in the market so I do not know.) And anyway they spent just north of $10k on the engine refit. :P

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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2015, 11:03:04 PM »
I have been reading that sundowner blog and while it's amazing what they've done, they have sunk about $100k into that boat. Looking around at local listings, it's easy to find sailboats in the same class with less than ten years on them for $30k less than what they've spent.
I think it's the difference between buying a boat knowing you will have to replace the engine and buying a boat not knowing you are going to have to replace the engine ;-)

To add to that, what about insurance? My friends who bought a boat to live on, had the first one fall through because insurance refused to cover it - I think it was a concrete hull type, that far too many amateurs made, and so had bad track records.

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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2015, 01:53:37 AM »
I'm looking for a houseboat for the family to live in. Technically a yacht, as I want it to use it in blue water (i.e., the ocean). I know I've checked before, but prices have fallen a LOT (or my memory's not what it used to be). $40k can get a 30 year old boat with two bedrooms and two bathrooms (cabins and heads in boating terms). I'm looking at a three bedroom two bathroom one for $35k, and trying to get in touch with the seller of a two bedroom two bathroom for $35k (the first one was listed at $40k, the second is listed at $35k so I think they'll come down; it's also newer and I figured out where to add that third bedroom).

Note that I'm talking about a powered boat, not a sailboat (yes, I know a sailboat can have a motor).

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like it's a buyer's market right now.

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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2015, 07:18:08 AM »
What I've seen by closely watching the market for over a year is that every once in a while there will be a legit boat in good shape pop up that is priced to sell, it sells fairly quickly. The market is flooded with overpriced boats that are 30 years old.  You can get a nice boat that is less than 30 years old for that price.  We are hesitant to purchase such an old boat...They can be plagued with problems.  I'd rather pay more upfront than deal with major issues if I can avoid a few of them.

The insurance issue depends on where you want to go, what you're willing to do for hurricane season, etc.  We plan to pay cash for the boat and only carry the min insurance that is required for marinas.  Should a tragic event take place and we lose the boat, it won't break us so I don't like the idea of paying $2000 a year for insurance. I'm not planning on losing the boat.  If it happened though, we could buy again or just move on.

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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2015, 10:35:31 AM »
I'm guessing there is a big price difference between a blue-water ocean crossing 34" boat like a Norsea and a 34" weekend cruiser like a C&C.
Plus the costs of outfitting it with ocean crossing type gear


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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2015, 11:21:15 AM »
Awesome, and congratulations!

I was seriously planning to do that last year but my wife does not feel comfortable on a boat so I gave up and instead bought a small acreage on one of BC's Gulf Islands. My daughter and her partner lived on a Catalina 38 for a few years until they broke up a few months ago. They were moored in a marina just a kilometre or so from our place. She is now back on land but feels so miserable in her huge 300 square feet studio. I loved the lifestyle, and with a little perseverance, I think my wife would have caved in...But we are only 800 metres from a nice cove where we can sink a home mooring, so my new plan is to get a smallish 27-30-footer for my daughter and share it.

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« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2015, 09:22:40 AM »
Awesome, and congratulations!

I was seriously planning to do that last year but my wife does not feel comfortable on a boat so I gave up and instead bought a small acreage on one of BC's Gulf Islands. My daughter and her partner lived on a Catalina 38 for a few years until they broke up a few months ago. They were moored in a marina just a kilometre or so from our place. She is now back on land but feels so miserable in her huge 300 square feet studio. I loved the lifestyle, and with a little perseverance, I think my wife would have caved in...But we are only 800 metres from a nice cove where we can sink a home mooring, so my new plan is to get a smallish 27-30-footer for my daughter and share it.

Awesome! I was a bit worried when I presented it to my wife but fortunately she loved the idea! Great plan sharing the boat with your daughter, you'll be close and thats wonderful!

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« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2015, 06:46:45 PM »
Just in case anyone wanted to see the first of our video series....Not to upset anyone for putting up a link to something else ;) ...and yes, we do talk about saving money on it! Happy weekend everyone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzvl2rNuPIs

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« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2015, 07:29:50 PM »
Nice. WE spent some time talking to Carla Gray Bedell and her family a few years ago (author of life without borders). They seemed to really enjoy doing it. They also had a lot of fun backpacking down to south american which is more our sort of style..

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« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2015, 04:01:27 AM »
Hey mxer54, do you have a sailing or boating background? I can't really tell from your responses. If not, I'd recommend an STCW Basic Safety course for your entire family. Heck, it's still a pretty good course for people who do have a boating background.

Also, GPS (and therefore your eNav system) is not the failsafe Overlord we tend to think it is. Knowing basic terrestrial navigation pays in spades and unbroken keels. Once you move towards circumnavigation, pick up celestial nav. The Pacific is unholy big, and we are small. Plus celestial is fun.

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« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2015, 10:40:37 AM »
Hey Sailor Sam! I have just enough experience to get myself into trouble! Haha...My father built sailboats around the 20-30 foot range so I did sail as a kid but we do plan to take ASA courses ourselves and also try to get into a few racing clubs to get some more experience before we set off.  I've owned a boat but nothing of this size and it was a SeaRay, not a sailboat. I retire on the 6th on November, we are heading to Florida to start the process of taking courses and getting more experience. The wife will be taking the courses too.

That with sailing our own boat as often as possible is our plan to get our feet wet but we will still be taking it slow before we even try a passage across the Gulf to the Bahamas. Thank you for the recommendations! I'll certainly check into celestial navigation! I was planning on getting some training in that area as well. We hope you guys will follow along with us! We plan to "drop" (term now used by older folks as I've been told) the Annapolis video in about a week. We'll be on a schedule of releasing a video about every 2 weeks.



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« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2015, 05:00:51 PM »
That's my dream too. I'm 400 miles from the beach now, but one day...

Depending on how long I can survive work for, it'll be somewhere between a 38 foot cat, to a 26 foot mono! I'll follow your adventures, please post updates on what your spending is.

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« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2015, 06:16:47 PM »
That's my dream too. I'm 400 miles from the beach now, but one day...

Depending on how long I can survive work for, it'll be somewhere between a 38 foot cat, to a 26 foot mono! I'll follow your adventures, please post updates on what your spending is.

We will ABSOLUTELY do that.  We try to include a lot about spending or not spending really, plus budget stuff....although we seem to have found that we have family members interested in allowing us to pay their way for things now that they see we might have savings lol...Please do follow the blog, youtube and Facebook! We are so happy you'll follow along!