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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2015, 02:33:11 AM »
Good stuff! I'm in Sydney, lots of places to go to in Australia.
Also, I recommend NZ, but to do it full justice you'd need about 4 weeks for NZ itself...

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2015, 02:45:09 AM »
December is hot, and they are predicting an El Nino, so it will be hotter than normal and the east coast will have a drought. You could go inland to see the rock but it will be very hot, and it will be the wet season in the north, so you would be seeing the reef in the heat and wet. At least December is before the fire season really gets underway, so you shouldn't have to worry too much about fires.

In December I would tend to stick to Victoria, Tasmania the highlands of NSW and Queensland, and the coast - there are lots of beautiful places along the coast - particularly the Great Ocean Road (more or less from Melbourne to Adelaide) and the Princes Highway from Melbourne to halfway up the coast to Sydney - although it starts to be good once you have left the environs of the cities.

However, there is a big problem...

Check the dates against the summer school holidays: http://www.australia.com/en/planning/australian-school-holidays.html - it says it all (schoolies week is to be avoided - you really don't want to see drunk teenagers trashing the place)

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The end of year school break is the longest in Australia and a very busy time as it also includes Christmas and New Year. Summer is when Australians head to the beach and seaside towns all along our vast coastline. It can be extremely hot and wet in the Northern Territory, Tropical North Queensland and places such as Broome and the Kimberley in Western Australia. Summer holidays are also the time for cricket, grand slam tennis, music festivals and outdoor events. Our many national parks provide a cool retreat from the summer heat. ‘Schoolies Week’ is a three week graduation festival celebrated by Year 12 school leavers from all around Australia and starts from around mid-November. The Gold Coast is home to the nation’s largest schoolies celebration, however Byron Bay, the Sunshine Coast, Airlie Beach and Lorne in Victoria are also popular, and can be very crowded at this time.

Most of the coastal really good stuff like the Great Ocean Road will be full of people. Every beach will be wall to wall people, but I guess you are used to wall to wall people. A week in New Zealand is quite easy to do.

Where can you go and not be mobbed or deep fried? Tasmania is a bit quieter and cooler, and it is a lovely place (including world heritage areas of forest and mountains - well hills). If you stay in Victoria, the High Country (there are some fantastic 4WD routes there) is nice, go to the Yarra Valley (outskirts of Melbourne) or Rutherglen for wine tastings, see the King valley, Tara Buga National Park and the Grand Ridge road is fantastic and Healesville Sanctury (platypuses are difficult to see in the wild - well camouflaged) - in the Yarra Valley. Go to the world heritage area at Lake Mungo to see where they have found the world's earliest cremation. Go to Sydney and see the harbour, and visit the Blue Mountains (another world heritage area), and the Hunter river (more wineries).

What do your friends suggest? And what sorts of things do you like?
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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2015, 03:38:56 AM »
As a general comment; distances are vast so you can spend quite a bit of time/money getting from place to place. Petrol  is around $1 Euro/litre. On a size comparison Australia is (very) roughly the same size as the USA excluding Alaska and Hawaii. So I would concentrate on a couple of areas and also hit the highlights.

I find Melbourne as having a slightly European feel and the city centre is very walkable. Within day trip distance are Philip Island, Sovereign Hill (a recreation of an 1850's gold rush town) at Ballarat, Healsville Sanctuary mentioned by Deborah and a number of other attractions. The Great Ocean Road is on my 'must do but haven't got there yet' list.

We spent two weeks last year (Oct/Nov) doing a road trip around Tasmania and I would highly recommend it. Great natural beauty (Cradle Mountain, the Wild Rivers on the West Coast, Bay of Fires and Wineglass Bay on the East Coast) and heritage, Hobart is the second oldest city the country and there is a lot of convict heritage - a trip down to Port Arthur is worth it and the Salamanca Markets in Hobart on the weekend are fantastic. 

In Queensland I would not venture too far north (eg Cairns) without being willing to risk bad weather as it will be monsoon season. I would venture no further north than the Whitsunday Coast and head out on the water from there; Whitehaven beach is stunning. If you can cope with the heat and want to see some Outback, head west from Rockhampton. There are the gemfields around Emerald, the Stockman's Hall of Fame and the Qantas museum in Longreach. Fraser Island is the world's largest sand island and another natural heritage stunner. Within day trip distance from Brisbane there is the Sunshine Coast (where I live), Glasshouse Mountains, Australia Zoo (Crocodile Hunter's zoo) beautiful beaches and the hinterland can be a haven from the heat and crowds. The Gold Coast is more developed (think Miami) and best avoided in mid/late December due to Schoolies (celebrations for finishing year twelve) week.

For Sydney there are the usual suspects, and I would jump on one of the harbour ferries and head across to Manly (about 40 minutes). You will see a lot of the harbour, get great views of the city/bridge/opera house and the end up at Manly with a five minute walk to an ocean beach. Think about doing a Harbour Bridge climb. The Hunter Valley wine region is a reasonable trip from Sydney. Loved the Blue Mountains when we visited last year.

As a point of reference Canberra is much like Washington. As the national capital there are Galleries/Museums old and new Parliament House, nearby wine region. My favourite location is the national War Memorial, I can spend all day there and not see everything I want to.

If you are thinking about New Zealand I would say spend 4 weeks in Aus and a week in NZ just to get a taste for it. I traveled there  for a three week holiday and split it one week North island and two weeks South Island. The North is more populated and the South has more of the natural heritage attractions. Christchurch is very much still in rebuilding mode after the earthquake.

I haven't visited South Australia, Western Australia or the Northern Territory so I will leave those to others.
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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2015, 03:56:04 AM »
You're flying to Melbourne.

LonerMatt's recommendations are:
1. Great Ocean Road (hike, camp, surf, wear sunscreen, stay in fibro shacks)
2. Otways (hike, revel in nature)
3. If you go further along the coast than Apollo Bay there will be significantly fewer people - have a look at my website's Great South West for images!
4. Chill out in Melbourne - go to some cafes, see some buskers, soak up the vibes, enjoy it - it's not a European city, so comparisons are stupid, but it comes alive in summer - people are out, the city is busy and it's a great place to pull up a chair and people watch
5. Grampians for hiking
6. I am a big fan of South East NSW - Bega, Eden, etc, if you have a car those places are just wonderful
7. Achieve spiritual enlightenment the Australian way - relax and stop giving a fuck

Yes it is summer, and there will be some hot days, but it will be fine. Wear sunscreen (and do NOT skimp on this and buy cheap shit, trust me I know, just go for the good stuff).

If you love the beach then just park somewhere and stay and enjoy it.




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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2015, 03:58:19 AM »
Thanks for all the pointers, just for your information.
We're not from the US. :p

NZ sounds as if the southern island is more our cup of tea, or would we miss anything major by not going to the north?

Sorry, I realised after my long post but figured they might still be points of reference/comparison.

I would probably stick to the South Island for NZ. Maybe focus in and around Queenstown often known as the 'adventure capital'. The alpine area (nothing on Europe though) is is very accessible and Fox Glacier/Lake Mathieson are worth a visit. For the north island you would be missing the geothermal areas around Rotorua. There are thermal springs at Hamner Springs on the South Island but not the geysers that there are at Rotorua. You can swim with dolphins at Kaikoura (south island).

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2015, 04:17:50 AM »
Just be aware that Australia is a very diverse place and you will see the cool green parts of the wide brown land if you go for the areas mentioned. The tropics, the huge deserts, the west, and the red earth will all be missing.

If you started by going to the Grampians from Melbourne (after having seen the Yarra Valley, Kinglake and Healesville) via Ballarat, down to the Great Ocean Road, along it, through the Otways and the surf coast, crossed from Queenscliff to Sorento on the ferry (missing Melbourne and Geelong), along the Princes highway (diverting to Phillip Island to see the penguins), in to Tara Buga and Grand Ridge Road, along the coast to Mallacoota, Eden, up the coast  go on the Grand Pacific Drive (goes over the sea), and along the coast through Royal National Park (not the highway) to Sydney, inland to the Blue Mountains, along the inland to the Gondwana Forests world heritage areas, up the hiltop roads behind the glasshouse mountains just past Brisbane...

That would be a fantastic trip. You'd see a lot of walking tracks, and coast and forest.

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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2015, 04:25:55 AM »
Thanks for all the pointers, just for your information.
We're not from the US. :p

NZ sounds as if the southern island is more our cup of tea, or would we miss anything major by not going to the north?

Sorry, I realised after my long post but figured they might still be points of reference/comparison.

I would probably stick to the South Island for NZ. Maybe focus in and around Queenstown often known as the 'adventure capital'. The alpine area (nothing on Europe though) is is very accessible and Fox Glacier/Lake Mathieson are worth a visit. For the north island you would be missing the geothermal areas around Rotorua. There are thermal springs at Hamner Springs on the South Island but not the geysers that there are at Rotorua. You can swim with dolphins at Kaikoura (south island).

Awww, you even changed the petrol price to €/l <3
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Yes, I did. That bit was relatively quick with a bit of Google help to check you work in litres and to find out the exchange rate. The whole litres/gallons/ plus currency conversion had an element of luck in getting roughly the right answer. Picking European cities to compare Aussie cities to was too much of a stretch but I figured the US cities I picked well known enough to give you an idea.

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2015, 04:52:11 AM »
If you do decide to do Nz and only have a few days, I would suggest flying into queenstown (you can fly direct from melbourne or sydney) and just stick round the queenstown lakes area, lots for tourists within a small area- adventure sports, great wineries, amazing scenery. (not that I am bias since I live in this region ;-) ) you could go down to milford sound from here for a night or two.

As for Australia I love-
Melbourne and then along great ocean road
Cairns- great barrier reef, hartley's crocodile world, rainforest cable car.
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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2015, 05:40:22 AM »
You're flying to Melbourne.

LonerMatt's recommendations are:

4. Chill out in Melbourne - go to some cafes, see some buskers, soak up the vibes, enjoy it - it's not a European city, so comparisons are stupid, but it comes alive in summer - people are out, the city is busy and it's a great place to pull up a chair and people watch

Try and be fair; I said it has a 'slightly European feel' as backed up by your statement 'people are out, the city is busy and its a great place to pull up a chair and people watch'. At no time did I say it is a European city.

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2015, 06:04:53 AM »
I did December in Australia a couple of years ago - went to visit my sister who was living in Sydney. Here's my input, for what it's worth.

Don't underestimate the sheer size of the place. Even to get from Sydney to Melbourne is an hour and a half or so to fly. I love to travel by train and really wanted to try it so bought myself a rail pass (it's a travel agent in Munich who sell them on behalf of the Australian railways). Timing on a few different things my sister had planned made it kind of hard to arrange so I only managed to do one trip and basically spent a day and a bit in Brisbane. That was lovely, by the way, I really liked Brisbane. But it was over twelve hours on the train. I did an overnight going and came back during the day. Due to building works we actually had to do that last half of the return trip on a bus, which wasn't as nice as the train but it was kind of cool to arrive back into Sydney driving over the bridge.

Blue Mountains are really impressive. We stayed in Katoomba. Some nice shops and restaurants there. I tried hard to get a good photo and even looked in the tourist shops to find better photos but nothing came anywhere close to the reality so it really seemed to be a place to put the camera down and just take it in. On our second day we went down and did a tour of the rain forest, which was really interesting.
 
Hyams Beach on Jervis Bay was also spectacular. If I ever do go back to Australia I'm likely to just book a week there and spend the time sitting on the beach and running down for a swim every half an hour or so.

The weather was kind of disappointing - I think I was there during one of their rainiest summers ever. But on the fine days it was great. Soooo nice to have sunshine in the middle of "winter".

Sydney zoo was brilliant and if you're in Sydney it's the best place to get good photos of the harbour.

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2015, 06:19:41 AM »
Another vote for the Blue Mountains here. If hiking, abseiling and canyoning are your thing, this is the place to do it. Not that I'm biased...

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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2015, 05:16:04 AM »
I can't wait to see what you guys end up choosing. If I was going to suggest a journey it would probably sound something like that Deborah has suggested.

We enjoyed the Great Ocean Road a few years ago. It sounds like a short trip (not many kms) but there were so many places to stop and look. We underestimated it. Minimum 2-3 days one way just for that section. The return trip (if you do it that way) would be much faster, with no stops.

I think it would be hard to come to Australia without going to Sydney and seeing the bridge and the Opera House for yourself. And seeing as the Blue Mountains would be so close and you enjoy nature and walking, it would be hard to skip that.

Tasmania will definitely be cooler than other parts of Australia at that time of the year. And I hear it has some of the best bushwalking in Australia.

Flights from Australia to NZ are so cheap outside of school holidays. I'm sure if you look around you could find something reasonable for the time you are here. And it is only a few hours on the plane. South Island is quite far south, so shouldn't be too hot at that time of year!

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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2015, 07:13:17 AM »
Australia is as large as the US or China. Be prepared to fly. Somebody described Australia as like Nevada with no California beyond.

Can you stopover in NZ coming or going? If you are limited by time, I suggest hire a car in Christchurch South Island  and spend a week driving round South Island NZ. South west South Island is called Fiordland because it is the southern hemisphere equivalent of Norway, particularly Milford Sound. Lord of the Rings Scenery, and I am amazed that the film did not make use of the scenery.

North Island means Rotorua, and if you do not have the time, I suggest skip it.

This time of the year, the heat and humidity in the Northern Territory (the Top End) sends people ‘troppo’, as in tropical, that is a bit mad. Top End people have become boringly normal, but in the past the man running Northern Territory, (it is not a state) called himself the King of the Kids.

I agree with the poster who suggested the Whitsunday Islands, off Shute Harbour about half way up the coast of Queensland. Impossible tropical islands, and you half expect to see Captain Hook and his ship moored in one of the bays. You do not have the time, but I once spent a week touring the Whitsundays on an old three masted sailing ship, with others, camping at night on beaches.

I agree with other posters on the following:
Fly to Launceston or Hobart Tasmania and rent a car and spend four or five days driving round Tasmania.
Great Ocean Road, Victoria.
Uluru (Ayers Rock) is a unique place. Fly there and back if you can.
Blue Mountains are good, but nothing like the Grand Canyon. Blue for the haze of turpentine emitted by eucalypts.

Sydney for the Bridge, also known as the coat hanger, for obvious reasons. Also the Opera House and Taronga Zoo. The Melbourne Zoo will be similar to Taronga, so go see the Australian section, particularly kangaroos, emus (our version of ostriches), wombats, and echidnas. The last two you are likely to see if you drive Tasmania. No native mammals in Australia, only marsupials.

Read Nevil Shute’s novel Beyond the Black Stump, life on a cattle station in north west Australia in the fifties. 200 miles to the grocery shop, and you hang out the washing and then immediately return to where you started and take in the dry washing.

Read books on Australian Aboriginal legends. Fascinating, their idea of a Dreaming. At creation, the Rainbow Serpent slithered across the land, and the depressions where it slithered created the rivers. This is a Dreaming.

See the movie Ten Canoes. A stone age Aboriginal soap opera set somewhere in the remote past before white settlement, in what is now Arnhem Land, Top End. It draws you in. Made by a Dutch film maker living in Australia. Not to be confused by his later and lesser offering, Twelve Canoes.

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2015, 09:30:37 AM »
Not sure if you have booked flights yet or not but if not I would also highly recommend doing at least one-day stopovers in whichever city you have to change it. I flew Frankfurt -> Kuala Lumpur -> Sydney but could have also gone via Shanghai, Beijing or Dubai, I think. Not sure what the options are for Melbourne but probably similar. I had a day and a half in Kuala Lumpur on the way over and booked myself a couple of tours to hit the main sightseeing highlights (and make sure I didn't just sleep the whole time). It was great. Coming home, I just did the straight flight with a three-hour stay in Kuala Lumpur airport late in the evening. Wouldn't do that again - admittedly I came back with a bad cold but I really struggled with the long flights back-to-back. If I ever to travel long-distance again, I'll make sure to incorporate time between flights. It's usually possible at no extra cost (other than your hotel or whatever, obviously).

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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2015, 05:15:21 PM »
If you end up going to Mungo let me know, I lived in Mildura for a few years so I can give you some solid recommendations.

Be warned, while we were talking about Melbourne and Sydney heat, which is hot but not terrible, if you end up in the desert expect 40-45 degrees.

Mildura will regularly have weeks of 38+ in the summer. Mungo is hotter.

It's not necessarily a deal breaker for everyone, but it can be incredibly difficult when the 'low' is 25 degrees at 4am in the morning a few nights in a row.

On the plus side the food is amazing and the produce is truly some of the best in the world, the people are friendly and even if there's not a lot to do, it is unlike anywhere else in the world, at last as far as I know.

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2015, 04:54:49 AM »
No Tasmania? If you really like hiking I recommend Tassie. There's a beautiful hike from Cradle mountain to Lake St Clair or vice versa. If you want something shorter you could go to wine glass bay. Either way if you like hiking Tasmanua is quite something. In NZ there are some famous hikes too, the routeburn trek and the Milford Track. I think it was Edmund Hillary who said they are the most beautiful hikes in the world!

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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2015, 07:22:57 AM »
Good stuff! I'm in Sydney, lots of places to go to in Australia.
Also, I recommend NZ, but to do it full justice you'd need about 4 weeks for NZ itself...

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2015, 07:52:16 AM »
Just be careful if you leave the coasts, the rest is a wasteland full of motorcycle marauders ready to go to war over a tank of precious juice.

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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2015, 08:24:29 AM »
So we've now booked all the local flights, so the boundary conditions are set in stone.
Next step is to plan places to stay while in Cape Tribulation and Sydney.
Book cars locally in Cairns and Sydney.
And see what we can do while in New Zealand.



Great itinerary.  I am a New Zealander who lived in Sydney for a time and have family in Melbourne.
My only suggested change (since you don't have much time in Sydney) is that you skip the Blue Mountains as you will see more stunning scenery elsewhere (Tasmania, Great Ocean Road, Northern Queensland) and spend that time exploring Sydney Harbour instead.  it is one of the most stunning Harbours in the world.  Blue Mountains is sort of a long day trip for only having a short time in Sydney. 

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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2015, 02:09:36 PM »
The Queen Victoria Market in Melbourne was a fun way to while away a half day or so and pick up some delicious food. All kinds of baked goods, sweets and coffee and an amazing selection of exotic fruits. We still talk about the bread we bought there that had dried apricots and pistachios, so good!

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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2015, 05:04:30 AM »
As mentioned before, the blue mountains is great but you will have to plan your trip here well to get the most out of the available time. For midsummer I would recommend a walk like Leura Cascades to base of Bridal Veil Falls, past the amphitheater, Leura Forest, Federal Pass to the base of the Scenic Railway - the latter is fun going up or coming down. http://www.scenicworld.com.au/experience/scenic-railway It all depends on how fit you are! I would definitely aim for a splash in a waterhole too.

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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2015, 10:02:10 PM »
Your itinerary looks great.
I see you have a few more days in Melbourne after NZ. You might like to check out Wilson's Promontory National Park to the south, seeing as you like nature. I haven't been there myself, but plan to one day. People rave about it, and the pics look awesome.

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2015, 08:21:50 AM »
At that time of year Wilsons prom will be chock full of people. they recently put up their fees too.

Cape Tribulation at that time of year is in the wet season and Cape Trib. is not far from the place that regularly records the highest rainfall of anywhere in Australia. However, when you are going is early for the really wet weather and the road is quite drivable. Just be prepared for a lot of rain. This will be a distinct change from further south where you will probably get no rain at all, and it is predicted that the countryside will be quite dry as we are beginning to get an El Nino (which always makes our normally dry summers even drier).

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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2015, 01:03:42 AM »
Yes it will probably be too warm. SO says to think of Florida in July. Cape Trib. is good. It has the Daintree. I'm not sure why you're not going to the Whitsundays.
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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2015, 12:44:31 PM »
I asked my wife, who spent a month there this year, what she enjoyed the most and what she would make sure to do again- a resounding "Great Ocean Road".

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2015, 06:16:16 PM »
Werribee Park and the Melbourne zoo both appear to have fairy penguins

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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2015, 06:58:16 PM »
I can only speak to New Zealand, as I did the opposite of you. I did one week in Sydney and 2 months in New Zealand.
First off Zew Zealand has a great bus system. It was super easy to google "south island buses" and book them online, and they are always on time. They don't go all the way to the bottom, but they go most places. Also some of the roads in southern New Zealand are harrowing.
I went to Wanaka, which was beautiful. I wish I had visited an ice cave at Fox Glacier and seen some penguins.
I thought Dunedin was cool, but probably not worth the trip.
You definetly need to rent a car if you want to go to Foirdland National Park.
If you liked the Hobbit this web page has some trip ideas:
http://www.newzealand.com/us/feature/the-hobbit-trilogy-filming-locations/

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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2015, 01:56:46 PM »
Ok, so I'm starting up the planing process again.

Question for the locals.
  • What is the best/cheapest car rental to get from Cairns Airport to Cape Tribulation? We will need the car for 4 days (2015-12-15 - 2015-12-18)
  • What is the best/cheapest caravan rental in and around Melbourne to drive up the Great ocean road? For 5 people between Christmas and New Years.
  • What is the best/cheapest car rental in Queenstown? For a week in January, preferably something that will not baulk at going off the beaten track.
  • Is wild camping allowed/recommended in NZ?
  • What are recommendations for locations to visit in NZ on the south island? Should I open a new thread?

It's the first time ever that we will be renting cars on our holiday so I am totally lost. But I see no other way to logistically visit Australia and New Zealand.
There are plenty of companies who offer day trips down the Great Ocean Road from Melbourne.

I have never stayed in a caravan park in Melbourne but I suspect that they are all way out in the sticks, rather than anywhere you would want to be. Public transport is reasonable in Melbourne, but between Christmas and New Year it would probably be working on the Sunday/Public Holiday time table (in fact my memory is that they have a special Christmas timetable at that time), so I would stay somewhere near the centre of Melbourne, and catch public transport depending on what you want to see there. Avoid the centre of Melbourne on 26th December, because that is when all the shops open for boxing day sales and it is bedlam!

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2016, 03:53:52 AM »
Hope you've been enjoying it here, despite our kooky weather (36 today, and the forecast is 24 tomorrow, 41 Wednesday, 20 Thursday) :)

I'm assuming you weren't able to get to the Great Ocean Road, with the fires there over Christmas. What did you end up doing instead?

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2016, 02:01:22 AM »
Its always interesting to hear an outsiders perspective,

So in summary, what would you recommend for someone else coming downunder? what do you wish you'd done, but didn't?

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2016, 02:21:33 AM »
ok, thanks for the reply.

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Re: Visiting Australia; What to do what to see?
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2016, 06:42:55 PM »
What a trip! I'm glad to hear you had a great time.