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Re: Updating your home - when is it too much $$$?
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2021, 09:39:50 AM »
I see why people don't notice anything unusual about your cabinet setup -- it looks intentional, with the countertop / cabinet colors inverted between the two cabinet groups. I love the pot/pan racks - I wish I had a good place to do that in my kitchen!

It's truly amazing, and now that I have the spices in magnetic jars on the fridge just to the left of the grey unit, it's like a chef's dream come true. It's the best kitchen I've ever had for cooking.

That whole right side section was just empty eat-in kitchen space, so I was able to design exactly what I wanted for my cook space.

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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2021, 09:44:54 AM »
I see why people don't notice anything unusual about your cabinet setup -- it looks intentional, with the countertop / cabinet colors inverted between the two cabinet groups. I love the pot/pan racks - I wish I had a good place to do that in my kitchen!

It's truly amazing, and now that I have the spices in magnetic jars on the fridge just to the left of the grey unit, it's like a chef's dream come true. It's the best kitchen I've ever had for cooking.

That whole right side section was just empty eat-in kitchen space, so I was able to design exactly what I wanted for my cook space.

I had never considered magnetic jars for spices - we have a spice drawer in one of the cabinets which works well enough for storage, but it's difficult to quickly find the exact spice we're looking for...I shall ponder this.

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Re: Updating your home - when is it too much $$$?
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2021, 09:47:59 AM »
I see why people don't notice anything unusual about your cabinet setup -- it looks intentional, with the countertop / cabinet colors inverted between the two cabinet groups. I love the pot/pan racks - I wish I had a good place to do that in my kitchen!

It's truly amazing, and now that I have the spices in magnetic jars on the fridge just to the left of the grey unit, it's like a chef's dream come true. It's the best kitchen I've ever had for cooking.

That whole right side section was just empty eat-in kitchen space, so I was able to design exactly what I wanted for my cook space.

I had never considered magnetic jars for spices - we have a spice drawer in one of the cabinets which works well enough for storage, but it's difficult to quickly find the exact spice we're looking for...I shall ponder this.

I did this but eventually got annoyed that the magnets on my spice jars were not strong enough.  So I replaced the magnets with industrial strength Velcro (2" band).  I've got four rows of velcro running along the side of my fridge which hold all my size jars (which I think are ~4oz each).

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« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2021, 09:49:59 AM »
Lots of good advice offered already. For the record, I'm a fan of doing reasonable updates right away, enjoying the heck out of them, then selling as "updated". However, I'd use this time to plot and plan.

If you join Redfin, you will be able to see photos of prior listings of similar properties in the property history. Start studying them. See what people did and watch the effect their choices have/had on resale prices. You will quickly learn what makes sense and what doesn't. Free ideas for a little bit of your time.

DH and I are RE geeks. We spend hours poring over Redfin listings, viewing the before & afters, noting the good design choices and laughing at the stupid ones. It's free entertainment and we learn a lot along the way. We have four properties and we plan to upgrade each of them, then sell them off one by one. Watching what others have done gives us a clear idea of what we will do. The advance planning will save us a ton and maximize our results.

@JLee, of course I looked at your pictures multiple times and I want to see MORE! Nice job!! It looks the way it should have all along. I'm curious about the angled corner cabinet, because I know that cost extra.

Thank you!  My gf and I spent many weeks agonizing over color decisions, layout, etc - after living with it for a few months, there is literally nothing we want to change. Our cabinet guy was indescribably helpful with the layout too - basic information that I didn't know (e.g. how much room to leave between the fridge and the island, so you can still remove the fridge) and little things that I wouldn't think about, like moving the dishwasher to the right side of the sink (avoids stove/oven and dishwasher space contention, plus loading the dishwasher is easier given we're all right handed). I got super lucky and we were able to install an exterior vented range hood just by clipping the corner out of the corner cabinet - the cabinet guys boxed it in with cabinet material for me so it's barely noticeable.

Come to think of it I don't have a photo album of the process and finished product - I'll have to get that and shoot you a link :)

Edit: Oh, and one of the best things was our $500-from-Facebook-Marketplace induction range.  OH MY GOD is it nice to be able to just wipe down the stove and have it be CLEAN!  I had a lovely Maytag Gemini dual oven gas range that came with the house but it was absolutely terrible to clean. Induction is also absurdly fast heat -- I never want to go back to a gas (or regular electric) stove!
Lol, I meant the lower corner cabinet, to the right of the dishwasher.

Also, there's a ton of good kitchen planning stuff available on line. Our last flip house was my first from-scratch design. I wanted it to be a two-cook kitchen, despite tight space restrictions. I found all the info I needed on the internet and the results were great. The new owners are very happy with it. If my own kitchen weren't so nice (we bought it that way), I'd be extremely jealous.

Nice job, @Malcat! I'm reminded of Julia Child's kitchen, now on display at the Smithsonian. She used pegboard to hang her pots and her husband traced them with a marker so everything went back to their proper place.

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« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2021, 09:51:49 AM »
@Dicey  ah that one. I don't think it was any more expensive - if so, marginally?  I did have to patch the floor there, turns out the previous owners installed hardwood around the existing cabinets so when we replaced that one with a corner unit, suddenly I was missing a chunk of floor x.x

The patch came out really well though! I was lucky and found matching hardwood at Home Depot.

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« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2021, 12:19:56 PM »
@Dicey  ah that one. I don't think it was any more expensive - if so, marginally?  I did have to patch the floor there, turns out the previous owners installed hardwood around the existing cabinets so when we replaced that one with a corner unit, suddenly I was missing a chunk of floor x.x

The patch came out really well though! I was lucky and found matching hardwood at Home Depot.
I'm curious why you chose to angle it?

Eventually, I want to reconfigure our island. We have stone floors, which I have no hope of matching. The footprint will just have to be bigger.

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« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2021, 12:30:52 PM »
@Malcat I really like the wall with hanging storage - reminds me very much of Julia Childs' kitchen with simple pegboard. IIRC almost the same color blue as well.

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« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2021, 12:50:44 PM »
@Dicey  ah that one. I don't think it was any more expensive - if so, marginally?  I did have to patch the floor there, turns out the previous owners installed hardwood around the existing cabinets so when we replaced that one with a corner unit, suddenly I was missing a chunk of floor x.x

The patch came out really well though! I was lucky and found matching hardwood at Home Depot.
I'm curious why you chose to angle it?

Eventually, I want to reconfigure our island. We have stone floors, which I have no hope of matching. The footprint will just have to be bigger.

Dicey, You’re the queen of creatively getting renovations to fit perfectly but if you have an smaller or odd footprint a mosaic or boarder (border? Boarder?) could look really nice. It would take some planning to make it look integrated and not like it’s just filling space, but I think it could be done.


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Re: Updating your home - when is it too much $$$?
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2021, 12:53:18 PM »
@Dicey  ah that one. I don't think it was any more expensive - if so, marginally?  I did have to patch the floor there, turns out the previous owners installed hardwood around the existing cabinets so when we replaced that one with a corner unit, suddenly I was missing a chunk of floor x.x

The patch came out really well though! I was lucky and found matching hardwood at Home Depot.
I'm curious why you chose to angle it?

Eventually, I want to reconfigure our island. We have stone floors, which I have no hope of matching. The footprint will just have to be bigger.

The cabinet is immediately against the doorframe for the kitchen door, so angling it provided a nicer path into the kitchen vs having to walk around the cabinet.

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« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2021, 01:41:11 PM »
@Dicey  ah that one. I don't think it was any more expensive - if so, marginally?  I did have to patch the floor there, turns out the previous owners installed hardwood around the existing cabinets so when we replaced that one with a corner unit, suddenly I was missing a chunk of floor x.x

The patch came out really well though! I was lucky and found matching hardwood at Home Depot.
I'm curious why you chose to angle it?

Eventually, I want to reconfigure our island. We have stone floors, which I have no hope of matching. The footprint will just have to be bigger.

Dicey, You’re the queen of creatively getting renovations to fit perfectly but if you have an smaller or odd footprint a mosaic or boarder (border? Boarder?) could look really nice. It would take some planning to make it look integrated and not like it’s just filling space, but I think it could be done.
Thanks for the compliment @PMG , but that's kind of a funny topic. Our rentals are all in the same community. When they were built, typically the kitchen and hallways were tile and the rest was carpet. In a number of cases, the bathrooms were also carpeted, which is just gross. Over the years, people have installed tile where the carpet used to be. DH and I hate it, for several reasons. The most obvious one is the grout lines never match up.* Next is the tile thickness differs, third is the use of borders to "bridge" two or more different tiles, which never works after the fact. None of these options are aesthetically pleasing to us. Oh, and DH despises transition strips of all kinds. (Aren't we a fun pair?)

Two of the three rentals were tiled when they were built (no carpet, except for the bedrooms), so they're fine. The third had linoleum in one bath, carpet in another and glued down commercial carpet in the utility room. (Yes, we got a good deal on this one - it was ugly and smelled of sewage, complete with peeling linoleum around the stinky toilet. It was only a failed wax ring, for the win.) We ended up searching for and finding a wood grain tile that is the exact thickness of the existing tile, so it looks pretty good next to the existing tile.

Our own house is newer and a great room floor plan, but the builder cheaped out and put carpet in the "living room" portion of the room. Before we moved in, we removed jackhammered out a couple rows of stone and replaced the carpet to improve the LR proportions. Imagine a large square divided into four quadrants. Three are tile and one is carpet, except the carpet part is(was) smaller than the other three sections. Now at least they're roughly equal, but we can't pull out any more stone. Then the tile continues down the hallways and into every bathroom and the laundry room. It's going to be a giant pain in the ass if there's no tile under the kitchen island. We could go with a similar solution to what we did in the rentals, but the tile in this house is actually stone** and is very thick. Oh, well, it's an MPP for sure.

*I hate uneven/unbalanced tile floor patterns so much that I paid $1/sf extra to have the tile installed on the diagonal when I bought the first house. It also happened to be very on trend at the time. Alas, now it looks a bit dated...

**Sorry, I have used the words tile and stone interchangeably. Most household tile is made of ceramic or porcelain and is usually thinner. Other times, natural material such as terrazzo, travertine, marble, clay, or cork is created in the shape of tile and they tend to be thicker. Ergo, "tile" is kind of a generic term.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...

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« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2021, 02:28:53 PM »
@Dicey  ah that one. I don't think it was any more expensive - if so, marginally?  I did have to patch the floor there, turns out the previous owners installed hardwood around the existing cabinets so when we replaced that one with a corner unit, suddenly I was missing a chunk of floor x.x

The patch came out really well though! I was lucky and found matching hardwood at Home Depot.
I'm curious why you chose to angle it?

Eventually, I want to reconfigure our island. We have stone floors, which I have no hope of matching. The footprint will just have to be bigger.

Dicey, You’re the queen of creatively getting renovations to fit perfectly but if you have an smaller or odd footprint a mosaic or boarder (border? Boarder?) could look really nice. It would take some planning to make it look integrated and not like it’s just filling space, but I think it could be done.
Thanks for the compliment @PMG , but that's kind of a funny topic. Our rentals are all in the same community. When they were built, typically the kitchen and hallways were tile and the rest was carpet. In a number of cases, the bathrooms were also carpeted, which is just gross. Over the years, people have installed tile where the carpet used to be. DH and I hate it, for several reasons. The most obvious one is the grout lines never match up.* Next is the tile thickness differs, third is the use of borders to "bridge" two or more different tiles, which never works after the fact. None of these options are aesthetically pleasing to us. Oh, and DH despises transition strips of all kinds. (Aren't we a fun pair?)

Two of the three rentals were tiled when they were built (no carpet, except for the bedrooms), so they're fine. The third had linoleum in one bath, carpet in another and glued down commercial carpet in the utility room. (Yes, we got a good deal on this one - it was ugly and smelled of sewage, complete with peeling linoleum around the stinky toilet. It was only a failed wax ring, for the win.) We ended up searching for and finding a wood grain tile that is the exact thickness of the existing tile, so it looks pretty good next to the existing tile.

Our own house is newer and a great room floor plan, but the builder cheaped out and put carpet in the "living room" portion of the room. Before we moved in, we removed jackhammered out a couple rows of stone and replaced the carpet to improve the LR proportions. Imagine a large square divided into four quadrants. Three are tile and one is carpet, except the carpet part is(was) smaller than the other three sections. Now at least they're roughly equal, but we can't pull out any more stone. Then the tile continues down the hallways and into every bathroom and the laundry room. It's going to be a giant pain in the ass if there's no tile under the kitchen island. We could go with a similar solution to what we did in the rentals, but the tile in this house is actually stone** and is very thick. Oh, well, it's an MPP for sure.

*I hate uneven/unbalanced tile floor patterns so much that I paid $1/sf extra to have the tile installed on the diagonal when I bought the first house. It also happened to be very on trend at the time. Alas, now it looks a bit dated...

**Sorry, I have used the words tile and stone interchangeably. Most household tile is made of ceramic or porcelain and is usually thinner. Other times, natural material such as terrazzo, travertine, marble, clay, or cork is created in the shape of tile and they tend to be thicker. Ergo, "tile" is kind of a generic term.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Dicey, you should have seen my upstairs bathroom. Long and narrow, with tile sections at the ends and carpet in the middle. I waited way too long to rip that out. We were so close to selling that we just went with commercial grade linoleum. It looks so much better!

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Re: Updating your home - when is it too much $$$?
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2021, 05:07:59 PM »
I see why people don't notice anything unusual about your cabinet setup -- it looks intentional, with the countertop / cabinet colors inverted between the two cabinet groups. I love the pot/pan racks - I wish I had a good place to do that in my kitchen!

it would bother me but I can be a tiny bit anal about some things. When I did my remodel as I saved the info from when we remodeled in 99; the company was still existing so was able to order the same design and wood as what we had. Absurdly expensive for like 3 cabinets (like 700). Still less than replacing all the cabinets with new.

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« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2021, 06:30:03 PM »
When we added a peninsula (which meant the kitchen finally got a dishwasher) a few houses ago we had a local finish carpenter make the base cabinets in oak, designed to match the existing oak cabinets.  I found a marching stain and stained them.  Since the peninsula needed a countertop we put in new laminate countertops in a much better colour, the old one was a sort of pukey yellow.  We changed out all the hardware and it was an amazing reno.  The only expensive things were the cabinets (less expensive than Ikea and made to measure), the added electrical outlets and plumbing for the dishwasher. We didn't have to change the floor but we did anyway, it was old vinyl installed by the previous owner.  We went with laminate planks that were waterproof.  It was a chunk of money but nothing compared to a regular redo.

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« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2021, 07:16:36 PM »
I see why people don't notice anything unusual about your cabinet setup -- it looks intentional, with the countertop / cabinet colors inverted between the two cabinet groups. I love the pot/pan racks - I wish I had a good place to do that in my kitchen!

it would bother me but I can be a tiny bit anal about some things. When I did my remodel as I saved the info from when we remodeled in 99; the company was still existing so was able to order the same design and wood as what we had. Absurdly expensive for like 3 cabinets (like 700). Still less than replacing all the cabinets with new.

Yep, I would have liked to have matching cabinets, but not enough to rip out an entire kitchen just for the sake of optimal prettiness.

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« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2021, 04:58:17 AM »
I see why people don't notice anything unusual about your cabinet setup -- it looks intentional, with the countertop / cabinet colors inverted between the two cabinet groups. I love the pot/pan racks - I wish I had a good place to do that in my kitchen!

it would bother me but I can be a tiny bit anal about some things. When I did my remodel as I saved the info from when we remodeled in 99; the company was still existing so was able to order the same design and wood as what we had. Absurdly expensive for like 3 cabinets (like 700). Still less than replacing all the cabinets with new.

Yep, I would have liked to have matching cabinets, but not enough to rip out an entire kitchen just for the sake of optimal prettiness.

I think ‘optimal prettiness’ is a great name for a punk band.