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Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« on: April 30, 2015, 04:51:35 PM »
I stumbled upon Mustachianism last fall, read a few posts, but other thing came up it, didn't dive any deeper, so I am relatively new. Got sick this month, forced to stay still for a few days, so I plowed through a whole bunch of posts with great interest. I have concluded that you guys are all being led down the path to frugal oblivion! Here's why:

1.   He seems to spend much of his free time turning the pristine land of the earth into luxurious hives for humans. He does this with an unnaturally large collection of power tools. Really, how many Mustachians (or any other human) have purchased a 163 lb. drill lately?
2.   Even though he is a truly badass non-consumer, he can’t answer the question “How much is Enough?” Frugality = savings = investment = wealth = …What? You will never need the money, so what the hell are you planning on doing with it? Which of course leads to…
3.   Although he apparently will work tirelessly to reduce his trash output, auto exhaust emissions, and KW use, he endlessly accumulates dollars without any clearly expressed purpose. Couldn’t these bucks be used to improve the world, with far more impact? (And beyond ever-so-needy Colorado?) Still waiting for him to hit Mother Theresa mode. Which now leads to…
4.   Owning index funds supports all those companies he bitches about every week! Who markets those giant F-250’s? MMM! He owns (at least part of) the company!
5.   And anyway, giant trucks and SUV’s are not as bad as he portrays them. For example, if you ran over a Smart car in your CRV, you’d notice! This would lead to all sorts of personal crises. With the giant vehicle you just cruise on to the next gas station, calm and secure.
6.   MMM owns at least three motor-powered road vehicles by my count. Seems excessive.
7.   Once someone has achieved Enough, whatever that level of wealth is for that person, what’s wrong with completely wasting a substantial amount of cash on something just because you’ve never done it before? (yes, I know, this completely contradicts #2).
8.   OK, you’re 27, and have 10 years to retirement. Why should you spend the prime of your life eating rolled oats, cashing in soda cans for deposits, working like a dog, and looking forward to the best day of the week--when you get to ride your bike to Safeway! With the trailer! All to be rich when you’re pushing 40 when, as everyone knows, you’re so old you might as well be dead.
9.   MMM is from Canada. He apparently can’t shake a childhood obsession with onesies and twosies. It’s the life-long effect of Queen Elizabeth staring back at you every time you pull coins from your pocket.
10.   Finally (this is really killer) MMM SOLD his VFR!!! And didn’t replace it. Case closed. Checkmate.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2015, 05:26:49 PM »
Wow.   Jealous much? 

Not that I think MMM is Jesus or anything but you're throwing a lot of stones without a single mention of your own situation.  Must be easy from that ivory tower... 

Let's see...

1.   He seems to spend much of his free time turning the pristine land of the earth into luxurious hives for humans. He does this with an unnaturally large collection of power tools. Really, how many Mustachians (or any other human) have purchased a 163 lb. drill lately?

So?  He also homeschools his kid, hangs out with friends, and drives a lot less than Joe Paycheck going to work each day.  His carbon footprint is probably still lower than yours.
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2.   Even though he is a truly badass non-consumer, he can’t answer the question “How much is Enough?” Frugality = savings = investment = wealth = …What? You will never need the money, so what the hell are you planning on doing with it? Which of course leads to…
Believe it or not, the amount of money everyone earns in their lifetime is finite...  Every dollar is either consumed now... or consumed at some point in the future.  I can't possibly forsee what I'll need 20 years from now.
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3.   Although he apparently will work tirelessly to reduce his trash output, auto exhaust emissions, and KW use, he endlessly accumulates dollars without any clearly expressed purpose. Couldn’t these bucks be used to improve the world, with far more impact? (And beyond ever-so-needy Colorado?) Still waiting for him to hit Mother Theresa mode.
I can't speak for MMM, but I myself plan to donate to causes that MATTER TO ME when I have surplus cash. 
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4.   Owning index funds supports all those companies he bitches about every week! Who markets those giant F-250’s? MMM! He owns (at least part of) the company!
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/04/09/what-if-everyone-became-frugal/
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5.   And anyway, giant trucks and SUV’s are not as bad as he portrays them. For example, if you ran over a Smart car in your CRV, you’d notice! This would lead to all sorts of personal crises. With the giant vehicle you just cruise on to the next gas station, calm and secure.
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/06/07/safety-is-an-expensive-illusion/

Edit:  With the giant vehicle, you can just cruise on to the next gas station... until the police pulls you over and arrests you for manslaughter and fleeing the scene.

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6.   MMM owns at least three motor-powered road vehicles by my count. Seems excessive.

So?  Jay Leno owns how many?

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7.   Once someone has achieved Enough, whatever that level of wealth is for that person, what’s wrong with completely wasting a substantial amount of cash on something just because you’ve never done it before? (yes, I know, this completely contradicts #2).
Nothing, if you can afford it.  MMM just rails against mindless consumption by those who cannot, hoping to slap some sense into people. 
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8.   OK, you’re 27, and have 10 years to retirement. Why should you spend the prime of your life eating rolled oats, cashing in soda cans for deposits, working like a dog, and looking forward to the best day of the week--when you get to ride your bike to Safeway! With the trailer! All to be rich when you’re pushing 40 when, as everyone knows, you’re so old you might as well be dead.
When the alternative is to be 68 and still working my tail off instead of doing whatever the eff I want?
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9.   MMM is from Canada. He apparently can’t shake a childhood obsession with onesies and twosies. It’s the life-long effect of Queen Elizabeth staring back at you every time you pull coins from your pocket.
I have no idea what you're even talking about here... 
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10.   Finally (this is really killer) MMM SOLD his VFR!!! And didn’t replace it. Case closed. Checkmate.

So you're yelling at him for owning too many cars, but he can't sell a motorcycle?  Contradict much?





Your entire post reeks of elitism, and you offer zero details about yourself.  I'm gonna throw a wild guess and say you live with your parents.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 05:31:52 PM by jmusic »

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2015, 05:28:53 PM »
Must be easy from that ivory tower... 

@jmusic, I think it's a bridge?


@OP

You're forgetting the primary objective.

With the information you have gleaned...

What would YOU do if you stopped spending all your income and had a surplus enough to live on freely with no commitment to work?

That's all that matters.

Your mileage may vary of course. MMM does what he enjoys, shows everyone else how to get what they want.

#1 *raises hand* oh, also these two... http://www.mikeandlauren.com

I've exhausted my quota for this reply, I'll let others continue.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 05:33:33 PM by zdravé »

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2015, 05:34:25 PM »
Damn jmusic!  Take a breath buddy!

The OP raises some good points.  After all, everyone knows once you're 40 you might as well be dead.

But really, I think the proper response to these is always this:




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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2015, 05:50:05 PM »
This one's my favorite:

8.   OK, you’re 27, and have 10 years to retirement. Why should you spend the prime of your life eating rolled oats (because they're tasty!), cashing in soda cans for deposits (for the environment!), working like a dog (for the kibble!), and looking forward to the best day of the week (Saturday?)--when you get to ride your bike to Safeway! With the trailer! (I use a milk crate!) All to be rich when you’re pushing 40 (I'm rich, beeotch!) when, as everyone knows, you’re so old you might as well be dead. And I'm dead.  Shit.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2015, 05:53:07 PM »
Apparently not only does he live with the 'rents, he's...


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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2015, 05:56:00 PM »
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8.   OK, you’re 27, and have 10 years to retirement. Why should you spend the prime of your life eating rolled oats, cashing in soda cans for deposits, working like a dog, and looking forward to the best day of the week--when you get to ride your bike to Safeway! With the trailer! All to be rich when you’re pushing 40 when, as everyone knows, you’re so old you might as well be dead.
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Your Original Post really shows how you just don't get the point of mustachianism.  But this #8 above is just, to put it bluntly, a complete load of horseshit.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2015, 06:06:28 PM »
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8.   OK, you’re 27, and have 10 years to retirement. Why should you spend the prime of your life eating rolled oats, cashing in soda cans for deposits, working like a dog, and looking forward to the best day of the week--when you get to ride your bike to Safeway! With the trailer! All to be rich when you’re pushing 40 when, as everyone knows, you’re so old you might as well be dead.
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Your Original Post really shows how you just don't get the point of mustachianism.  But this #8 above is just, to put it bluntly, a complete load of horseshit.

Agreed.  The entire point is to be MINDFUL instead of MINDLESS about consumption. 

My sarcasm meter was on the "uncertain" line for the entire post, but I'm pretty sure the bit about "40 might as well be dead" definitely was.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2015, 06:12:57 PM »
Deep breaths everyone.

OP is either having a laugh (so laugh with him and move on) or very confused (so laugh at him and move on).

No need to get defensive.  No need to try to refute.  Take a deep breath, smile kindly, and go about your day.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2015, 06:57:39 PM »
LOL @ onesies and twosies!!!

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2015, 07:12:38 PM »
Deep breaths everyone.

OP is either having a laugh (so laugh with him and move on) or very confused (so laugh at him and move on).

No need to get defensive.  No need to try to refute.  Take a deep breath, smile kindly, and go about your day.

1.  Create new username.
2.  Create article calling MMM FOS.
3.  ???
4.  Profit.

nm = not mustachian?

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2015, 07:14:32 PM »
There is no one perfect philosophy to live your life by. But I will say I think the model that MMM is portraying is potentially more freeing than the one the majority in the modern world would have you buy.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2015, 07:16:52 PM »
OP has obviously never been to Canada - the Queen is on the paper money. The $20, of course, the most popular denomination.   The loonies and toonies have a loon (wow, wonder why it is called a loonie?) and a polar bear.  I provided pictures, just so we all know what we are discussing here. 

I think OP's tongue is planted firmly in cheek.  Unless nm = non mustachian, as suggested, in which case he needs to find a more appropriate place to hang out.


LOL @ onesies and twosies!!!

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2015, 07:17:28 PM »
Hilarious. I think a few people around here are too sensitive/defensive, and missed the joke.

I'm sure nm's post will be reported and deleted just like other joke posts. Not that I know anything about that.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2015, 07:18:08 PM »
Deep breaths everyone.

OP is either having a laugh (so laugh with him and move on) or very confused (so laugh at him and move on).

No need to get defensive.  No need to try to refute.  Take a deep breath, smile kindly, and go about your day.

I immediately thought either troll or successor to the "sacred cow" thread.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2015, 07:20:46 PM »
Well, as one of his "#8 should be dead by now over 40's", I can say to you, sincerely, as a basic tenet of my generation, that you are 31, so cannot be trusted.

Of course, on the same basis, neither can I.  ;-/

Hilarious. I think a few people around here are too sensitive/defensive, and missed the joke.

I'm sure nm's post will be reported and deleted just like other joke posts. Not that I know anything about that.

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2015, 07:23:39 PM »
Well, as one of his "#8 should be dead by now over 40's", I can say to you, sincerely, as a basic tenet of my generation, that you are 31, so cannot be trusted.

Of course, on the same basis, neither can I.  ;-/
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Fortunately, as referenced in nm's #5 Nugget of Wisdom, I drive a giant SUV, so I will simply roll over you and onto the nearest gas station, safe and secure.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2015, 07:44:40 PM »
But based on #5, I should be trading in my car for a Hummer.  After all, here in the wilds of the Great White North, what else would I want to drive?  Good luck on that meet-up.  ;-)

Plus the Hummer will keep me safe when I meet a polar bear, like the one on the toonie (oh, the twosie, sorry).  Let's see, the nearest polar bear is at the Toronto Zoo, so I should be OK.

Well, as one of his "#8 should be dead by now over 40's", I can say to you, sincerely, as a basic tenet of my generation, that you are 31, so cannot be trusted.

Of course, on the same basis, neither can I.  ;-/

Fortunately, as referenced in nm's #5 Nugget of Wisdom, I drive a giant SUV, so I will simply roll over you and onto the nearest gas station, safe and secure.
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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2015, 07:50:06 PM »
Yes, but the Hummer and SUV aren't quite there. What if you need to run over a Hummer or SUV? http://youtu.be/cDoRmT0iRic

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2015, 08:20:50 PM »
I could use a laugh right now and I was hoping these would be funny. 

#humorfail

Although I now know there's a polar bear on the Loonie (right?) so I've got that going for me.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2015, 08:38:31 PM »
Although I now know there's a polar bear on the Loonie (right?) so I've got that going for me.

Fail.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2015, 08:47:45 PM »
Boooo!

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2015, 09:49:20 PM »
good troll post. Just subtle enough to get everybody riled up.

The line about 40 year olds being practically dead gave it away though lol

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2015, 09:53:05 PM »
Although I now know there's a polar bear on the Loonie (right?) so I've got that going for me.

Fail.

Damn... OK, the bear coin is a toonie?  Canadians are so weird...

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2015, 10:06:41 PM »
Maybe OP is actually God MMM himself just trying to have some fun...

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2015, 05:42:00 AM »
Although I now know there's a polar bear on the Loonie (right?) so I've got that going for me.

Fail.

Damn... OK, the bear coin is a toonie?  Canadians are so weird...

What were you expecting - beavers and maple syrup??

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2015, 05:57:48 AM »
@crucial - Beavers are on the nickel and maple leaves were on the (now gone) penny.  We cover all bases.

@kendallf - I posted pictures so people wouldn't make silly mistakes - polar bear on a loonie, hmmf.  Why do you think it is called a loonie? Because it has a LOON on it.  Loons are cool, listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS0s2T2s6-s
And don't call us weird, when you have that incredibly boring money that is all the same colour.  We have more fun here.  ;-)

@Spartana - no, we will get our Lil' Rascal Senior Mobility Scooters and run over OP.  We can handle his big SUV, there is strength in numbers!  We will cover his windshield first with the Depends packages so he can't see us.

@ tarheeldan - for driving that I might get pulled over by the cops.  Or worse, have to pull into weigh stations.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2015, 06:03:59 AM »
OP has obviously never been to Canada - the Queen is on the paper money. The $20, of course, the most popular denomination.   The loonies and toonies have a loon (wow, wonder why it is called a loonie?) and a polar bear.  I provided pictures, just so we all know what we are discussing here. 

And on the other side of the coins, we do not see a portrait of the Queen -fnord-

As a child I found it confusing that the currency with an image of a buck was only worth a quarter of a buck.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2015, 06:09:05 AM »
Obvious troll is obvious

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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2015, 06:26:09 AM »
OP is making me fondly remember Westchester. 

THAT was an epic thread.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2015, 06:44:59 AM »
Deep breaths everyone.

OP is either having a laugh (so laugh with him and move on) or very confused (so laugh at him and move on).

No need to get defensive.  No need to try to refute.  Take a deep breath, smile kindly, and go about your day.
You're only relaxed it about because you are still a young whippersnapper with 2 whole years left before you are "so old you might as well be dead!". Those of us over 40 are planning to drive our Lil' Rascal Senior Mobility Scooters off the nearest cliff in mass suicide. That is if we can find our glasses, our hearing aids, our dentures, our support hose, our Lil' Rascal keys, and get the damned Depends adult diapers on first.  Um...?? Now what was I saying? Damn kids, get off my lawn and outta my way - Denny's Early Bird Special is about to start.

Funniest post!

Spartana, you are one funny lady.
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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2015, 07:27:19 AM »
Awsome post, even if a joke or not. Great to hear other peoples opinions and then form you're own. I am turning 40 next month :-)

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2015, 07:43:44 AM »
Trolololololololol

Point 2 - MMM can't answer how much is enough?

The 4% rule/shockingly simple math is a cornerstone of MMM lul kek jajajajajaja

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« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2015, 07:45:38 AM »
Deep breaths everyone.

OP is either having a laugh (so laugh with him and move on) or very confused (so laugh at him and move on).

No need to get defensive.  No need to try to refute.  Take a deep breath, smile kindly, and go about your day.
You're only relaxed it about because you are still a young whippersnapper with 2 whole years left before you are "so old you might as well be dead!". Those of us over 40 are planning to drive our Lil' Rascal Senior Mobility Scooters off the nearest cliff in mass suicide. That is if we can find our glasses, our hearing aids, our dentures, our support hose, our Lil' Rascal keys, and get the damned Depends adult diapers on first.  Um...?? Now what was I saying? Damn kids, get off my lawn and outta my way - Denny's Early Bird Special is about to start.

I though ObamaCare was going to get rid of all the old people for us?

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2015, 07:58:10 AM »
It's not an extremist religion. You don't have to be MMM or not MMM.

I save 50% but will retire only at 45-50
I drive a ridiculous F250. There is 50% need for it nad 50% fun of driving a big truck for a short while in my life.
I have to say early MMM posts were much more interesting to me than later ones.

I think the OP was sarcastic and doing de devil's advocate work. I'm sure MMM would agree with people questioning his choices for themselves.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2015, 09:21:06 AM »
I read a thread over on the fastlane forum about people teaching slowlane as a fastlane business lol.

Dave Ramsey says to store money in an envelope, and sells envelopes.

I'm just here for the rolled oats. nomnomnom

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« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2015, 09:26:28 AM »

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2015, 09:43:33 AM »
The Poe's Law is strong with this one. I think it's a joke.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2015, 11:32:49 AM »
OK. I admit I chose a provocative title. This was bound to be irritating to some, which I understand completely. I apologize to the serious and loyal members of this forum whom I may have offended. Sorry.

(However, I refuse to apologize to all the Canadians about the coins. You guys do go on…)

My purpose was to poke a little at some minor Mustachian inconsistencies I saw, have some fun, and ask a few Big Questions.

I honestly did not believe that there existed a sentient being in our universe who would actually take #5 seriously. Geez, folks, c’mon.

If I were told to remove every trace of parody, nuance, sarcasm and plain-old entertainment value from #5, it might read something like this:

People who drive giant SUV’s and trucks seem aloof, and they seem to have less concern for their fellow human beings than they should. They have to come up with elaborate excuses to rationalize their gas-guzzling ways. A Honda CRV would probably be a better choice.

I may have hit a nerve with #8 too, although it’s hardly an original thought. One of the foundations of Mustachianism is deferred gratification, and for human beings that is really, really hard. At 27, when your friends are leasing BMW’s and putting trips to Cabo on their cards, and the whole world is telling you to spend now, it can be very tough to stand strong and do the right thing. And 40 (and early retirement) can seem many lifetimes in the future. Hang in there, you can do it!

Although I can only begin to scratch the surface, much of this forum seems to focus on the nuts and bolts of how to get there, along the lines of how to cut another $15 off this month’s grocery bill. It’s a great road map. But I don’t see a lot of discussion of how much is Enough, and what you should do as a human being when you have More Than Enough. Believe me, you will get there. Maybe we should think a little about who we will be when we arrive.

For the record:

I’m in my 50”s, have been retired for a while. My life is good and I am very, very lucky to be living it.

I drive a Honda Element, which I bought new 12 years ago for $20k, paying cash. And it’s a five-speed manual, so no one but my family ever borrows it, because they can’t drive it!

Most of my investments are in Vanguard index funds, definitely the way to go.

No mortgage, car payments or credit card debt. As near as I can tell, I’m at least 75% in agreement with MMM on how to manage your financial life.

And yes, I own a VFR! I still can’t believe he sold it (I should get over this, I know, but I am obviously unable to do so). There is nothing like exploring large chunks of the planet on a decent sport-touring bike.

Thanks for listening.

nm

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2015, 11:46:16 AM »
lol nice thread.  I'll just leave this image here.  It get's funnier the longer you stare at it. 



And i'll leave all these here too.
















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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2015, 11:59:09 AM »
Ah ha.  So you were really poking fun at yourself...

Also for the record, the article about selling the VFR was a guest post by Mr. Frugal Toque. 

I take myself a bit too seriously at times, but I agree that there's a point where we should choose to splurge on experiences.  I think where the average consumer goes wrong is that they DO allocate every dollar to current spending.  They either consciously try to do this, or they do it unconsciously via the magically draining bank account.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2015, 12:05:40 PM »
But I don’t see a lot of discussion of how much is Enough, and what you should do as a human being when you have More Than Enough. Believe me, you will get there. Maybe we should think a little about who we will be when we arrive.

Protip:  If you want an actual discussion, don't post like a troll.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2015, 12:09:01 PM »
But I don’t see a lot of discussion of how much is Enough, and what you should do as a human being when you have More Than Enough. Believe me, you will get there. Maybe we should think a little about who we will be when we arrive.

Protip:  If you want an actual discussion, don't post like a troll.

Exactly.  It was your first post, without any context, or background on you.  No one "knows" you at all. How in the hell would you expect people to know that you were posting tongue in cheek? 

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2015, 01:59:25 PM »
Yo dawg I heard you like frugality. So I frugaled your frugal so you could be frugal while being frugal.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2015, 02:59:52 PM »
Pretty silly.

I do agree that "bad for the environment" is a lousy way to objectively denigrate one lifestyle when compared to another.

I mean, the existence of my house precludes the existence of 2000 square feet of nature. It is pretty silly for me to cast stones at my H2 driving neighbor.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2015, 03:28:15 PM »
But I don’t see a lot of discussion of how much is Enough, and what you should do as a human being when you have More Than Enough. Believe me, you will get there. Maybe we should think a little about who we will be when we arrive.

Protip:  If you want an actual discussion, don't post like a troll.

Exactly.  It was your first post, without any context, or background on you.  No one "knows" you at all. How in the hell would you expect people to know that you were posting tongue in cheek?

After lurking a VERY long time (like, a year of concentrated reading) I dived in like this with my first posting evar, expecting The Proletariat to be Cool and Understanding. I was Extremely Disappointed. I ended up having to defend for my life people who really didn't get the concept of "Spirited Discussion".

It's important for those who don't freakin' Get It to realize this dude waded into our midst and kicked us in the Jesus. That means he's laying himself wide, wide open, standing there like a little nekkid baby flipping us all the bird. Yes, either he's a 12 year old living in his parents' attic, or a 50 year old dude who's tightly aligned with us and just needing to find out if we are a bunch of sharp-toothed bottom feeders or truly the Cool Dudes we claim we are.

nm, I'm glad you showed a little of yourself. I'm you, just 3 years older. Yes, you are us and we are you. I'll fling a cow-pie of luv your direction and see if it sticks or slides off.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2015, 03:29:28 PM »
And BTW, I'll call your VFR and raise you a damned R1200RT.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2015, 03:40:24 PM »
How does any of this prove that MMM is Full On Sexy?

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2015, 03:43:35 PM »
How does any of this prove that MMM is Full On Sexy?

His jesus got kicked and didn't even flinch. That means sexy biotch. Or sexy, biotch. I don no which.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons MMM is FOS
« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2015, 04:04:19 PM »
Anyone who missed the sarcasm needs a sarcasm re-combobulation.

 

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