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« on: November 15, 2021, 08:28:50 AM »
We recently opened up our house for Airbnb and rented out the extra bedrooms for special occasion weekends.  The guests have been great--- clean, polite, etc, but its amazing how much toilet paper they go through.  We thought it was just the first set of people, a group of four that stayed two nights and used more than a full roll of toilet paper, something like 50 sheets per person per day of the good stuff, because I was curious enough to do the math.  Next was a group of three, using a full roll for their 2 night stay.  This past weekend were just 2 people that also used a full roll for their 2 night stay.  Its not like they're spending much time at the house, as they mostly just sleep, shower, eat breakfast, and then get on to the day's activities. 

We'd love to know what they're doing with all this toilet paper, but are afraid to ask.  They've visited for college football games, so we thought maybe they might have taken a roll with them to the stadium in case the bathrooms run out, but the empty cardboard tube is in our garbage can.  I know renting Airbnb has a reputation for people taking advantage like a hotel (take the extra shampoo/soap/towel) but its not like that at all with our guests so far.

I was also thinking about our plumbing.  Its all pvc drain pipe, so not likely to clog.  The toilets are quite capable and have super flushing ability.  We do have a septic system, but this is so infrequent I don't think it matters. 

Overall, just wondering how much TP people use and where ours might be heading off to.  Anybody else use this much toilet paper or live with people that do?  Or rent out Airbnb and have typical TP usage statistics?

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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2021, 08:48:03 AM »
In the early days of the pandemic, I was watching carefully (and conserving) because shelves were bare for 2 months and I hadn't bothered to hoard much. At that point, 2 of us were going through a roll a week. It seems like we go through more now (but not as much as you're seeing.)

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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2021, 08:51:38 AM »
Is this post for real? You're calculating your Airbnb's toilet paper usage and insinuating they are stealing it? Wow. Maybe they got a big spicy burrito or have IBS. Do you need them to leave receipts for their food so you can give them a TP allotment?

Hotels FTW.

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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2021, 08:56:09 AM »
I don't recall where it was, maybe at an airport in Europe, where the dispenser issued 2 sheets of good quality TP at a time, which I thought is quite nifty and well-thought of. There was a 10-15 sec timeout before it would issue another 2 sheets. But I do remember a lot of people complaining about "insufficient TP" and having to wait a minute to gather sufficient quantities. My wife and kids later asked what's wrong with 2 sheets of TP, two wipes and done.
But then, the janitors at every place I've worked have said that we (Americans) use more TP than necessary.
My family didn't get caught up in the COVID-19 TP FOMO, since we use it efficiently.

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2021, 08:57:42 AM »
My wife goes through a ton of toilet paper some times of the year . . . because she has allergies and a very runny nose that needs constant blowing.

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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2021, 09:17:58 AM »
Is this post for real? You're calculating your Airbnb's toilet paper usage and insinuating they are stealing it? Wow. Maybe they got a big spicy burrito or have IBS. Do you need them to leave receipts for their food so you can give them a TP allotment?

Hotels FTW.

I'm most definitely for real, and I suppose you're probably someone that uses this amount of TP regularly to get this offended.  Care to share your technique?

We're frugal people and its surprising how other people live, so I get curious and analyzing is in my nature.  One weekend like this wouldn't be surprising, but 3 of 3 goes against the odds.  People are generally more wasteful in hotels/Airbnb than they would normally be at home--- leave the lights on, let the water run extra long, etc.  Even so, I'm having trouble thinking through how all that can be used to wipe your butt. 

Hotels FTW--- not sure what that means, but I assume its something snarky. 

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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2021, 09:23:24 AM »
I understand your perplexity.  I use a double roll about every 2 weeks.  When I had a roommate, I had to change the roll every 2-3 days.  Crazy waste.  She's now in an apartment of her own and had to borrow my plunger because she clogged her toilet with paper.  And she's also living on the edge, financially.  Somehow, the two are related ..........

ETA:  I noticed in the store the other day, that double rolls are now "triple" rolls.  Same size. 

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2021, 09:49:45 AM »
Is this post for real? You're calculating your Airbnb's toilet paper usage and insinuating they are stealing it? Wow. Maybe they got a big spicy burrito or have IBS. Do you need them to leave receipts for their food so you can give them a TP allotment?

Hotels FTW.

I'm most definitely for real, and I suppose you're probably someone that uses this amount of TP regularly to get this offended.  Care to share your technique?

We're frugal people and its surprising how other people live, so I get curious and analyzing is in my nature.  One weekend like this wouldn't be surprising, but 3 of 3 goes against the odds.  People are generally more wasteful in hotels/Airbnb than they would normally be at home--- leave the lights on, let the water run extra long, etc.  Even so, I'm having trouble thinking through how all that can be used to wipe your butt. 

Hotels FTW--- not sure what that means, but I assume its something snarky.

I just think it's a bit strange to know my Airbnb host is doing things like checking security cams as you go in and out to see what you're up to, looking through your trash, internally criticizing electricity use, and monitoring TP usage. Sure, it's fair game. I get that. But it's a little unsettling as a "guest" to know people are doing this, and who knows what else. Especially when in my area Airbnb's cost more than a hotel room. I feel like if a person needs to have this much knowledge about their guests and goes to stew about it on the internet afterwards. Then maybe they maybe shouldn't be offering up their home for rent. Call me crazy. But it just rubs me the wrong way.

Would you like a week compilation video of my average bathroom habits? Like come on. You do you man. But there's bigger things in life than a $1 roll of toilet paper. If you're able to rent out part of your house on Airbnb, you're already winning the game.

You can use TP for lots of things other than your butt. Bloody noses. Wiping off the sink or counter. Picking up hair out of the shower drain. Wrapping feminine products. Blowing your nose. Grabbing spiders.

I do not think a roll of TP for 2-3 guests over 2 nights is excessive at all.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2021, 10:08:10 AM »
My wife goes through a ton of toilet paper some times of the year . . . because she has allergies and a very runny nose that needs constant blowing.

I think a question would be if she is using three feet of paper for a two square job? That might be the crux of OP's head scratching. If the amount is truly 'needed' so be it, but if they are yanking five foot length, then I think it is interesting…well never mind, not sure any habits are interesting to actually know.

There was some thread here a long time ago where someone talked about they basically wrapped their hand and arm up for each move, just to be sanitary or some sort of nonsense.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2021, 10:10:20 AM »
Is this post for real? You're calculating your Airbnb's toilet paper usage and insinuating they are stealing it? Wow. Maybe they got a big spicy burrito or have IBS. Do you need them to leave receipts for their food so you can give them a TP allotment?

Hotels FTW.

I'm most definitely for real, and I suppose you're probably someone that uses this amount of TP regularly to get this offended.  Care to share your technique?

We're frugal people and its surprising how other people live, so I get curious and analyzing is in my nature.  One weekend like this wouldn't be surprising, but 3 of 3 goes against the odds.  People are generally more wasteful in hotels/Airbnb than they would normally be at home--- leave the lights on, let the water run extra long, etc.  Even so, I'm having trouble thinking through how all that can be used to wipe your butt. 

Hotels FTW--- not sure what that means, but I assume its something snarky.

I just think it's a bit strange to know my Airbnb host is doing things like checking security cams as you go in and out to see what you're up to, looking through your trash, internally criticizing electricity use, and monitoring TP usage. Sure, it's fair game. I get that. But it's a little unsettling as a "guest" to know people are doing this, and who knows what else. Especially when in my area Airbnb's cost more than a hotel room. I feel like if a person needs to have this much knowledge about their guests and goes to stew about it on the internet afterwards. Then maybe they maybe shouldn't be offering up their home for rent. Call me crazy. But it just rubs me the wrong way.

Would you like a week compilation video of my average bathroom habits? Like come on. You do you man. But there's bigger things in life than a $1 roll of toilet paper. If you're able to rent out part of your house on Airbnb, you're already winning the game.

You're falsely accusing me.  There are no security cameras and nothing more than emptying the trash can and noticing an empty cardboard tube.  These are two extra bedrooms in our singe level house, so it difficult not to notice when we're at home with them.  This wouldn't normally bother me, except that this is now 3 times in a row, 100% of our very short Airbnb experience.  Its not the $1 roll of paper, but the idea that this is normal for many people.

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2021, 10:24:47 AM »
I feel like I use a lot of paper products, TP and facial tissue. It's for stuff like blowing my nose, cleaning up makeup, wiping mouth, etc. So I would guess maybe people have allergies or colds and are blowing their nose a lot?

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2021, 10:25:08 AM »
I am not insinuating you (specifically) do all of these things. But as a whole, I've heard Airbnb hosts discuss every one of them. And I just find it borderline creepy that someone focuses on it, even if it occurs out of happenstance while cleaning or co-habitating. That's all.
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2021, 10:54:45 AM »
I think people are just wasteful.

Anecdotally I was helping my dad move a freezer over the weekend from my grandma's house.  Afterward we noticed there was a little bit of meltwater on the basement floor trailing where we had moved the appliance out.  The leak was in two main places.  Nothing hard to handle, I went to go grab a roll of paper towels (if I was at home, I'd grab a towel as I didn't feel like making my 94 year old grandma have to clean a dirty towel, anyway) and took 3 half sheets to clean up the spill nearest me and gave the roll to my dad so he could handle the spill as it trailed out the basement door one room over.  After I came around the corner having cleaned my area and having plenty of dry enough paper towel to soak up what I cleaned, I noticed my dad had used like 30+ sheets to completely envelop the spill area and was pat drying the floor with his shoes.  It was comical but he didn't think it was weird so I didn't say anything.  I have no doubt he would clean up a similar mess at home or any type of mess requiring paper products in a similar inefficient fashion.

My TP stats:
Toilet paper quality: medium to fancy grade
Defecations per day: 1.75
Sheets per defecation: ~10
TP for urine? No
Use a bidet? No
Work from home? Yes
Feminine hygiene usage? N/A
Other uses? 2 sheets per week to clean sink after shaving head (2/7=.286 daily)
Total daily TP usage: 17.786 sheets

Wife uses more per bathroom visit and uses TP for more things but she's a much smaller person (I'm 6' 6", 250), doesn't work from home, and doesn't go #2 as frequently so we're probably in the same neighborhood with overall usage.  We probably go through a double/triple roll or whatever about once every 2-3 weeks.

If an airbnb host asks for my TP stats, I'll be ready for them! :Ž

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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2021, 11:03:09 AM »
I use toilet paper to blow my nose and clean up puppy accidents, in addition to the normal use. I think average usage varies a lot based on how much someone is home, how often they poop, and technique (folding vs bunching). When my partner is away I think a roll lasts me at least a week, when he's here it's more like 2 days, granted, there are two of us. Toilet paper isn't expensive enough to ration it, and we made it through the shortage because I always have at least one extra big pack on hand, more if it's on sale.

It's a little weird to be concerned about TP usage at an Airbnb, beyond using the data to figure out how much you need. Always make sure you leave enough for your guests, and factor it into your budget. Easy, and you don't even have to waste brain energy on how people are wiping.

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2021, 11:19:29 AM »
I use toilet paper to blow my nose and clean up puppy accidents, in addition to the normal use. I think average usage varies a lot based on how much someone is home, how often they poop, and technique (folding vs bunching). When my partner is away I think a roll lasts me at least a week, when he's here it's more like 2 days, granted, there are two of us. Toilet paper isn't expensive enough to ration it, and we made it through the shortage because I always have at least one extra big pack on hand, more if it's on sale.

It's a little weird to be concerned about TP usage at an Airbnb, beyond using the data to figure out how much you need. Always make sure you leave enough for your guests, and factor it into your budget. Easy, and you don't even have to waste brain energy on how people are wiping.

This is similar to our usage.  Both are at home all day at the moment and it seems like we go through two rolls a week.  She uses more than me, but I don't know exactly why other than peeing.  So 2-3 people using a roll in 2 days seems high to me but within a reasonable range.  As others have said, $1 dollar roll of tp is not worth worrying about.  If you are that worried about it, only leave them one roll per every 3 days AirBNB usage.  If they need more make them ask for it or get their own.

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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2021, 12:57:26 PM »
Perhaps the person you are renting to has a medical issue (Ulcerative colitis, Crohn's, or other IBD) that results in frequent bathroom trips? Perhaps they spilled something and used TP to clean up rather than your towels? Perhaps they are just wasteful?


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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2021, 12:59:11 PM »
I use toilet paper to blow my nose and clean up puppy accidents, in addition to the normal use. I think average usage varies a lot based on how much someone is home, how often they poop, and technique (folding vs bunching). When my partner is away I think a roll lasts me at least a week, when he's here it's more like 2 days, granted, there are two of us. Toilet paper isn't expensive enough to ration it, and we made it through the shortage because I always have at least one extra big pack on hand, more if it's on sale.

It's a little weird to be concerned about TP usage at an Airbnb, beyond using the data to figure out how much you need. Always make sure you leave enough for your guests, and factor it into your budget. Easy, and you don't even have to waste brain energy on how people are wiping.

This is similar to our usage.  Both are at home all day at the moment and it seems like we go through two rolls a week.  She uses more than me, but I don't know exactly why other than peeing.  So 2-3 people using a roll in 2 days seems high to me but within a reasonable range.  As others have said, $1 dollar roll of tp is not worth worrying about.  If you are that worried about it, only leave them one roll per every 3 days AirBNB usage.  If they need more make them ask for it or get their own.

This isn't about trying to save $1 from the Airbnb stay.  I suppose I just devote too much time pondering the lesser things in life and like to waste brain energy on these things.  Guest stays are only for a select few (highly lucrative) weekends of the year so I'm not about to try rationing TP. 

It sounds like a roll lasting only two days shouldn't sound surprising based on the responses so far, but the guests are barely here during the weekend.  Maybe they hold it in until they make it back to our place and make full use of it each time?  There's literally only about 5 opportunities during the course of their stay they might end up at the bathroom.

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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2021, 02:07:17 PM »
My guess is allergies and nose blowing. We go through a lot during allergy season, although I don't keep close track.

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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2021, 02:45:03 PM »
I agree people are using this TP for a lot of other stuff not associated with toilet use.  I do find the usage surprising (I'd say we two at my home use a roll every 5-6 days), but I also find some of the statements here surprising at how little people use.  Like that automated dispenser with TWO squares?  I have experimented with folding vs. bunching and etc etc and I just have no confidence my hand would not get wet if I tried to use only two squares to clean up with after urinating.  Which, I guess I'm washing my hands anyway, but in the meantime I need to pull my pants up and button them and what-not so I'd rather have a marginally less dirty (and wet) hand to do that with.  I do think the TP is at least as much about protecting the hand holding it as cleaning up the body part(s).

I've considered switching to a bidet, although we have certain challenges in implementing, but I've also never been convinced that really saves TP.  I still need to dry myself and even though theoretically it's a lot more clean, I still don't want my hand getting wet, so I prob need a similar amount of TP.  I think I've seen people suggest a towel, and maybe I'd just need to mentally transition, but I'd still worry about transferring particles between wipes and potential UTIs that could result.  And that's assuming each of us have our own towel to re-use?

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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2021, 03:21:58 PM »
Hah, I was thinking this post was trolling us... and then I thought it was silly.... but then I realized that whenever my mother comes to visit, I do intentionally put the good/expensive TP in a closet, and buy the very-cheap economy kind to put in the bathroom, because when she visits, it seems to disappear very fast, like at a rate of 2 or more rolls per day.

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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2021, 03:37:32 PM »
The true measure of my desire to avoid work is my willingness to weigh in on this thread with the following: a menstruating woman without access to a bidet can be a power user of TP for a couple of days a month. We also use it to wrap used sanitary products before throwing them away.

sui generis, any TP savings is incidental to the main purpose of the bidet, which is to get you actually clean. You do use a lot less, though, as there is only ever a need to pat dry regardless of what events have transpired.

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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2021, 03:38:24 PM »
I also find some of the statements here surprising at how little people use.  Like that automated dispenser with TWO squares?

The two squares thing made me laugh.  I'm not confident that I could wipe my ass without getting poop on my hands while using only two squares of toilet paper.  My kudos to those who can . . . my own risk tolerance of breakthrough and soakthrough is not up to the task.  I'd rather waddle over to the shower and spray down my backside than play Russian TP roulette of that sort.

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2021, 03:46:10 PM »
I also find some of the statements here surprising at how little people use.  Like that automated dispenser with TWO squares?

The two squares thing made me laugh.  I'm not confident that I could wipe my ass without getting poop on my hands while using only two squares of toilet paper.  My kudos to those who can . . . my own risk tolerance of breakthrough and soakthrough is not up to the task.  I'd rather waddle over to the shower and spray down my backside than play Russian TP roulette of that sort.

If you try using good quality TP, two squares is all you need per wipe. Charmins ultra strong is my favorite.

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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2021, 03:50:45 PM »
I also find some of the statements here surprising at how little people use.  Like that automated dispenser with TWO squares?

The two squares thing made me laugh.  I'm not confident that I could wipe my ass without getting poop on my hands while using only two squares of toilet paper.  My kudos to those who can . . . my own risk tolerance of breakthrough and soakthrough is not up to the task.  I'd rather waddle over to the shower and spray down my backside than play Russian TP roulette of that sort.

If you try using good quality TP, two squares is all you need per wipe. Charmins ultra strong is my favorite.

I prefer cheap and rough toilet paper.  It should feel like 1000 grit sandpaper and be 1/2 ply or less . . . otherwise you're doing it wrong.

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2021, 03:52:03 PM »
put out a bidet bottle; with instruction on how to use it, on the wall. still need to pat dry, but uses alot less tp

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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2021, 04:17:48 PM »
put out a bidet bottle; with instruction on how to use it, on the wall. still need to pat dry, but uses alot less tp

I actually installed a bidet on the toilet and tell them the basics of how to use it. No one seemed particularly interested, so I didn’t include that info in my posting since I’m assuming it didn’t get any use.

Edited to add— I also avoided the bidet the first time I cam across one a few years ago. Then I got more adventurous a few months back and got hooked. I totally understand my guests reluctance to try it in someone else’s house.
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2021, 04:24:18 PM »
Here are a couple of possible explanations:

Some people have health issues and need to use the toilet often. It isn't limited to digestive issues, either. I know someone who was prone to UTIs, and whose gynecologist advised her to wipe down with toilet paper and make sure that area was dry after every pee. Apparently, it minimizes the risk of infection.

Some people cannot stand having wet sinks and wipe them down after every use (I witnessed a former manager do this all the time at a previous job). I could easily see her wiping down the sink AND cleaning the toilet after every use. Especially if it was a shared toilet.

Some people just need to use more toilet paper to feel "clean."

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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2021, 04:33:50 PM »
If you try using good quality TP, two squares is all you need per wipe. Charmins ultra strong is my favorite.

I have a dear friend who worked for Proctor & Gamble her entire career & insists on only using Charmin. She has a lot of guests at her resort-town home and actually has instructions written out for how little of the Charmin to use because "it's a more superior product than you're probably used to" LOL  I'm a discount TP for life kinda gal myself but she sure has strong opinions on the proper usage of TP!

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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2021, 05:11:38 PM »
Maybe your guests were vegetarian or vegan, which often results in more frequent bowel movements.  Or maybe they just poop more often -- our entire family is a more than once a day family.  Maybe there were one or more menstruating women.  Maybe one of the men had poor aim and the women used TP to wipe down the toilet before using.  Maybe a woman had a urinary tract infection or interstitial cystitis and voided many many times per day and night.  Maybe someone had IBS or Crohn's or ulcerative colitis.  Maybe they didn't trust your cleaning and chose to use TP to line the toilet seat every time they sat down.  Do you also provide facial tissue?  If not, maybe they used the TP for nose blowing and wiping.

Maybe they just wanted to drive you crazy thinking about why they used so my TP!

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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2021, 05:51:06 PM »
If you try using good quality TP, two squares is all you need per wipe. Charmins ultra strong is my favorite.

I have a dear friend who worked for Proctor & Gamble her entire career & insists on only using Charmin. She has a lot of guests at her resort-town home and actually has instructions written out for how little of the Charmin to use because "it's a more superior product than you're probably used to" LOL  I'm a discount TP for life kinda gal myself but she sure has strong opinions on the proper usage of TP!

Or was it because it's more likely to clog the toilet if you use too much?

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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2021, 08:07:36 PM »

I didn't notice anyone mention it, but I know one possibility for excessive TP use because I used to do it myself!

I used to pull out a bunch of sheets of TP and lay out in the toilet so that there wouldn't be a splash when I took a dump.  Well, I stopped doing that a long time ago, and I don't go through nearly as much TP now.  It made a huge difference.

Also, some people may even lay out TP on the toilet seat to avoid coming in contact with it with their bare ass and legs.

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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2021, 09:25:23 PM »

I didn't notice anyone mention it, but I know one possibility for excessive TP use because I used to do it myself!

I used to pull out a bunch of sheets of TP and lay out in the toilet so that there wouldn't be a splash when I took a dump.  Well, I stopped doing that a long time ago, and I don't go through nearly as much TP now.  It made a huge difference.

Also, some people may even lay out TP on the toilet seat to avoid coming in contact with it with their bare ass and legs.

I always put tp down on the toilet seat when at someone else's house. I know it's not rational but I don't care.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2021, 10:08:30 PM »
I go through a heap of toilet paper.  My wife hardly uses any.  When I say a heap, I need to wipe my arse about 10 times to make sure it is clean, otherwise I get streakies later.  (Gross, but hey it is the topic at hand).  My son does the same (he's 28) and relayed a conversation he once had with a flat mate who asked why he used so much paper, and then ten seconds later said that "streakies just happen from time to time".  No, they don't just happen.

I use enough paper each wipe to ensure I don't get breakthrough ever.  I will flush about half way through wiping to make sure I never get a clogged toilet.

I also put some down before I go.  It stops splashes, but it also stops the streaks on the bottom of the toilet itself.

As a rough estimate, I will use about 3 of the "long rolls" they sell here in a week.  The two of us would go through about 4 a week combined.

It is cheap, and I am clean.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2021, 10:16:48 PM »
We use 1 roll every other day (15/mo), family of 5... 4 TP users (one child is 2).  Costco Signature brand.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2021, 10:36:11 PM »
who the f keeps cleaning out the kirkland brand tp at costco- just charmin's left

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2021, 12:41:01 AM »
In pre-pandemic days, one used the bathroom almost anywhere without much thought. Now many options are unavailable, so people make sure to go before they leave the house and/or wait until they get home.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2021, 12:46:44 AM »
I've never heard of putting paper in the toilet to prevent splashes. What is the point? I've actually taught my kid to flush any paper in the toilet before going #2, to prevent clogs (we don't flush every time someone wipes their nose). I've occasionally papered the seat in an unclean public restroom, such as after I've had to wipe up the previous person's urine, but never someone's house or a hotel/air bnb.

For periods and other messy situations I use a baby wipe instead of multiple rounds of paper. Feels cleaner and more efficient.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2021, 02:55:10 AM »
Having to have a septic system pumped out more often because of excessive paper going down the sewer gets expensive.  Guests not used to rural living can very easily eff up a septic system with excessive toiletries and cleaning products - it makes obvious the general wastefulness of their lives and the mindset of "out of site out of mind" which is at the heart of the destruction of the environment.

Also, to understand how careless a lot of people are about what goes into the sewer try googling "fatberg".

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2021, 04:40:06 AM »
Ah, now we are getting some good replies. It just shows how crazy everyone is. Tossing half a roll in the toilet just because, using two sheets and folding them multiple times. Everyone's normal is totally insane from the outside.

I bet some of you insane people also let your eggs touch your hash browns at breakfast! Or reuse a water glass without washing it! Insanity.

It’s entertaining for sure. I have tried to recognize some of my biases and just get through visits to family. Drove me crazy for years.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2021, 05:07:08 AM »
I also host Airbnb in my house regularly (near constant during the summer season) and this is a head-scratcher for me too. Most guests aren't TP hogs, but some are, and some steal it (yeah, I don't understand it either). Not a big enough deal to really care about, but I notice because I restock and field questions like "We are out of TP, do you have any more?" (I stocked 4 rolls for 4 days, and you're out of TP by the 3rd day....yeah, someone's using it excessively). I also generally provide paper towels and nose-blowing tissues, so I don't expect people to be using TP as their only paper cleaning product.

I'm generally a tidy person, and usually use 6 squares (two iterations of a folded set of 3 squares) of the "Marathon" brand from Costco per #2 (inexpensive TP, but not one-ply, state park level cheap). If I were using really nice TP like Charmin, I'd use 2 squares x 2. Even if I assume that someone with a harder to wipe butt than mine uses double or QUADRUPLE what I do, it would still not come anywhere close to a roll per day, even for multiple people. Possibly other folks didn't have parents who taught them how to wipe cleanly/efficiently/effectively? I've also been told that there exist people who believe that touching butts is gay (or will turn them gay? I didn't ask the details) and therefore use literal piles of TP to keep themselves from making accidental contact (This seems dubious to me, but I've been wrong about people before).

FWIW-- Myself, SO + 2 kids will generally use about 1 "Marathon" roll per week, including usage for nose-blowing, as I don't buy kleenex of any kind.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2021, 05:25:06 AM »
I have never in my life counted my TP squares

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2021, 06:24:48 AM »
Some days you use more - some days you use less, depends on what was for dinner the evening before.

FWIW - I made an addition to my oblutions (yep- a scrabble word) when I had shoulder surgery on my dominant arm; a bidet. Its one of those simple attachments and allows you a handy little knob to dial up and down the spray volume/force.

Although it was a bit of a test for me to try it, I am glad I did - it certainly has made it much easier and cleaner in the nether. And it has dramatically dropped the amount of TP needed.



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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2021, 06:57:37 AM »
I guess you need a larger sample size.   Maybe 33 would give us a good data point.... But it would only represent airbnbers on vacation.  So I guess you would also need another group that doesn't represent people on vacation as I'm afraid the diet change and traveling could produce different bathroom habits. 

Collect the data and report back.  From there we can maybe get a solid working hypothesis and conduct  interviews. Don't be afraid to weigh the guest, this information could be valuable!




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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2021, 07:07:34 AM »
I have lived with a lot of men (several exes and a lot of male roommates), and the ones who didn't use a lot of TP had scary laundry.

Apparently it's also a thing that a lot of men don't actually wash their butts either because they feel too self conscious to touch it.

So this thread is just making me think about the tragic number of men out there walking around with dirty butts. I have no idea why I read an article about men's dirty butts, but when I did, it made me sad.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2021, 07:34:04 AM »
I guess you need a larger sample size.   Maybe 33 would give us a good data point.... But it would only represent airbnbers on vacation.  So I guess you would also need another group that doesn't represent people on vacation as I'm afraid the diet change and traveling could produce different bathroom habits. 

Collect the data and report back.  From there we can maybe get a solid working hypothesis and conduct  interviews. Don't be afraid to weigh the guest, this information could be valuable!

Might not be the best source, but it was a fun read and does cite several studies---- https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgekj7/how-much-toilet-paper-do-you-need-to-survive-a-coronavirus-quarantine-an-investigation

The author assumes in the calculation that all trips to the bathroom for women are equal, so 8.6 sheets of TP per trip, regardless of whether it was #1 or #2.  The assumption is that men only use it for #2.  Bathroom trips were calculated as 1.71 per day for men and 8.71 for women.

And this quote from Georgia-Pacific to the Today show---
The average U.S. household (2.6 people) uses 409 equivalized regular rolls per year. Using our own calculations, staying at home 24-7 would result in ~40% increase vs. average daily usage,” a spokesman told TODAY in an email.
“Therefore, to last approximately 2 weeks, a 2-person household would need ~9 double rolls, or ~5 mega rolls. A 4-person household would need ~17 double rolls, or~ 9 mega rolls to last approximately 2 weeks.”


In conclusion, it seems Americans use a crap ton of TP.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2021, 08:03:20 AM »
Less than two trips a day for men?

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2021, 08:20:14 AM »
Less than two trips a day for men?

The number of bowel movements. Assumption of no TP for peeing.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2021, 08:38:49 AM »
Underwear is the default drying mechanism for men?
Very fortunate that DH does his own laundry...

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2021, 08:40:10 AM »
Underwear is the default drying mechanism for men?
Very fortunate that DH does his own laundry...

We've also been known to butt scootch on fluffy bath mats.

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Re: toilet paper usage
« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2021, 08:45:32 AM »
Underwear is the default drying mechanism for men?
Very fortunate that DH does his own laundry...

The shake is the primary mechanism. Underwear is the backup.

 

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