MMM & Paula Pant and more - Divorces in FIRE leaders

[popcornflying]

Now is anyone curious (nosey) and wondering if there will be a MMM/Paula Pant union in the future or is it just me? Probably just me. 

lol i've imagined it,  and saw mommy and daddy preaching about each other on their blogs.  preach!

i've also imagined them both as street fighter characters,  with pete doing torso-twisting face punches and paula doing stretchy yoga kicks from across the screen

basically all fantasy since i don't know either of them. please somebody make the game though

[TomTX]

That makes the idea of re-marriage really scary for someone who's already been through a divorce.

If they weren't the problem, then remarrying will be fine and they'll have the same chances as anyone. Of course, often (not always) being involved in a divorce signals something about the person's personality, judgment, decision-making, preferences, etc. that correlate with getting another divorce down the line.

I'm starting to get the impression that the FIRE community is going to be mostly single people that never enter in to the legal obligation of marriage and divorcees that could not sustain FIRE together for the rest their (married) lives...  No judgement on others from me here, but I really enjoy being married although I guess it is 'sub-optimal' in terms of FIRE.  As they say, you do you.

Hm? My aunt and uncle FIREd 40+ years ago, still happily together (though medical issues are growing)

[TomTX]

DW and I turned 50 this year and the other night we began listing couples we know our age who share these four things in common with us:

1. Have been married at least 20 years and are still married.
2. Have children.
3. Have never been married to anyone else.
4. Have never had children with anyone else.

It was startling how few couples we could come up with our age that were 4-for-4. Not making a commentary, just a sign of the times.

We check off all those boxes. Well, if it allows "child" rather than "children"

[rocketpj]

My folks celebrate their 50th anniversary later this month, and have been FIRE for almost 20 years.  DW and I have been together for 22 years and (hopefully) going strong.  It can happen.

[elysianfields]

Overall though it's just my impression that belief or value of marriage has gone way down. I guess part of me is really old fashioned and identifies more with people of an older generation. That current culture is everything is disposable, me first culture, and things like fidelity, monogamy, humility, compromise, repairing vs replacing is seen as old fashioned or even outdated.

I agree.  I believe too many people give up way too easily on their marriages.  It's as if they're only committed to the marriage so long as they're happy.  What they don't seem to realize is that most people go through periods of being unhappy (or even depressed), and that it's a totally natural thing and doesn't mean you need a divorce.  The vows do say "til death do us part".

Maybe your vows did. Mine didn't. And I'm quite glad that if either my wife or I want out of the marriage, neither of us has to die.

Our vows did as well.

My wife and I were discussing religion the other day and she told me that if I don't believe in God then I won't be with her in heaven when we die.  I told her I never signed up for that anyway.  Death ends our contract. 

Never sign a contract without an end date.  :)

I always thought that was weird. So you get in Heaven which is supposedly the happiest state you can be in. But basically 99% of your loved ones will not be there, as well as any beloved pets, etc. So either you are there and separated from your loved ones, or do they create simulacra/illusions of your loved ones so you can feel reunited? Certainly they don't provide a viewing hole to watch the people you love getting burned and tortured in Hell for an eternity because that would take some of the buzz off.

My mom asked a monk this question once and he said your memory of those people gets wiped.

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, anyone?  One of the funniest, and most depressing, movies ever made.