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temp tags on craigslist cars
« on: January 01, 2020, 04:43:53 PM »
I've been looking at used cars on craigslist, and I notice some that have temporary tags. Why would that be? The only reason I can think is that the owner just bought the car from a dealer. But if they just bought the car, why would they be selling it?

Can anyone think of a legitimate reason why a car that is for sale on craigslist would have temp tag?

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Re: temp tags on craigslist cars
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2020, 05:10:11 PM »
A legit seller can remove their plates and provide you with a temp tag so you can get it home and then you're on the hook to get it registered, and they don't have to worry about getting a ticket or arrested for someone else being stupid with their old car. Since plates, color, make and model are pretty much all anyone can use to identify a vehicle, makes sense to remove one major link to it so you don't get dragged into dealing with all that crap, even if you can prove it was sold still imagine it would be a major headache. I get it, the seller technically owns those plates/tags, so better to just take them off and get the new owner to deal with it.

But it is a yellow flag situation - proceed with caution - since there is so many bad things that can be linked to temp tags.

Besides the obvious - bought from dealer/seller and need to get vehicle registered/insured so temp tags allow you to use vehicle until real tags come in... they use it here for a few reasons: to avoid having to get insurance/inspections and drive it until it dies or gets caught, or thieves (BIG deal around here) so they can't trace the VIN and can try to avoid being caught in their getaway car.

There are flippers/shady dealerships that are pretending to be a private seller, but actually buying vehicles in lots from the big auto auctions, and then don't bother getting real plates/registration and flip the car to some unsuspecting buyer. Car may be fine, but you have to take anything the "owner" claims as unlikely because they probably only have driven it a few times around the block to make sure it basically runs.

Temp tag selling is illegal, but happens all the time. Someone will offer to provide the tags if you tell them the make & model (but they make up the address/name) and pay them like $50 for what should cost under $10. It is illegal to do this in my state (sell state issued documents specifically calls out the temp tag stuff) but still so many people think it's fine since they are pretending they have no knowledge of why anyone would pay them more than triple the price for something anyone can do themselves if they are doing it legally... riiiiiight.

Read about one guy in the last year that actually bought a stolen vehicle somehow that had temp tags sold by a supposed private sale from a ad off of craigslist or offerup or something. The VIN number was faked in the obvious places like the dash/door, but they didn't match the real VIN in the motor area (so one thing to do to CYA is look up the prospective vehicle's VIN locations and make sure they all match and are clean!)




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Re: temp tags on craigslist cars
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2020, 10:26:06 AM »
A lot of small car lots list their inventory on Craigslist. You are probably looking at dealer ads.

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Re: temp tags on craigslist cars
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2020, 10:36:23 AM »
You know how when you test drive a car at a dealer, they attached a metal license plate with magnets? That's not what I'm talking about.

When you buy a car at a dealer, they print a temporary, paper license plate. That's what I'm talking about. As far as I know, the only way to get one of these is to buy a car at a dealer. So when I see one of these on craigslist, it looks like somebody just bough a car - from a dealer - in the last month or two, and is now trying to get rid of it. The only reason I can think of why someone would do that is it's a really crappy car, or there is something underhanded going on.

Here's an example: https://images.craigslist.org/00Y0Y_5VShpb18QQM_1200x900.jpg

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Re: temp tags on craigslist cars
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2020, 10:38:34 AM »
Also attaching the file in case the ad gets removed.

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Re: temp tags on craigslist cars
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2020, 10:55:26 AM »
Another case where I have seen it is where someone has had the car for a while and let the plates expire due to being unable to drive it due to a repair or pass emissions they can go down to the DMV and get a temp tag for x amount of days to get and inspection or emissions test.

Colorado is this way not sure about other states.




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Re: temp tags on craigslist cars
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2020, 11:00:58 AM »
You know how when you test drive a car at a dealer, they attached a metal license plate with magnets? That's not what I'm talking about.

When you buy a car at a dealer, they print a temporary, paper license plate. That's what I'm talking about. As far as I know, the only way to get one of these is to buy a car at a dealer. So when I see one of these on craigslist, it looks like somebody just bough a car - from a dealer - in the last month or two, and is now trying to get rid of it. The only reason I can think of why someone would do that is it's a really crappy car, or there is something underhanded going on.

Here's an example: https://images.craigslist.org/00Y0Y_5VShpb18QQM_1200x900.jpg


Yup, that is exactly what I mean. It is a HUGE thing in my state. There are so many cars in the area with paper/temp tags and they are actually really easy to get online and print out.

Anyone can do this - you are actually wrong about only a dealership can get them. Anyone - from a private seller that is legit selling a vehicle they've owned the past 10 years, dealership, scammers trying to "paper" a car so they can avoid getting it registered for whatever reason, etc...  in my state they have a website to go fill in the information and purchase online, print out right then, slap on the car. You (or illegally someone you pay to cover the paper trail) can fill out anything on the details like vehicle make/model, vin, year. If they get caught, they likely lose the car itself for falsifying government paperwork at the very least, but it's a risk many are willing to take in my state due to the rampant "I can't afford inspection/registration/insurance" drivers.

https://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/register-your-vehicle/temporary-permits

It's a yellow flag since it is unusual that a private seller of a single vehicle is also aware of paper tags. That's usually done through dealerships, just like what you mistakenly think. So they know about it, meaning they were told or they've been doing this for more than this one vehicle listed. Again, this could be a person that just found out, and thinks it's great to prevent dealing with the hassles of the plates when selling, or it could be indication that they are not a private seller. You could ask, get the VIN and run a carfax on it to see about owners/auction stuff. Doesn't mean the vehicle is a bad one, just that dealerships/flippers are going to try to find buyers in as many places as they can.

Granted my info is based on MY state, so I obviously may be wrong for other states. It should be easy to search "temporary vehicle tag" with the state and get the info on how they issue tags and see if it's easy or not, then go from there.
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Re: temp tags on craigslist cars
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2020, 11:05:35 AM »
You know how when you test drive a car at a dealer, they attached a metal license plate with magnets? That's not what I'm talking about.

When you buy a car at a dealer, they print a temporary, paper license plate. That's what I'm talking about. As far as I know, the only way to get one of these is to buy a car at a dealer. So when I see one of these on craigslist, it looks like somebody just bough a car - from a dealer - in the last month or two, and is now trying to get rid of it. The only reason I can think of why someone would do that is it's a really crappy car, or there is something underhanded going on.

Here's an example: https://images.craigslist.org/00Y0Y_5VShpb18QQM_1200x900.jpg


Yup, that is exactly what I mean. It is a HUGE thing in my state. There are so many cars in the area with paper/temp tags and they are actually really easy to get online and print out.

Anyone can do this - you are actually wrong about only a dealership can get them. Anyone - from a private seller that is legit selling a vehicle they've owned the past 10 years, dealership, scammers trying to "paper" a car so they can avoid getting it registered for whatever reason, etc...  in my state they have a website to go fill in the information and purchase online, print out right then, slap on the car. You (or illegally someone you pay to cover the paper trail) can fill out anything on the details like vehicle make/model, vin, year). If they get caught, they likely lose the car itself for falsifying government paperwork, but it's a risk many are willing to take in my state due to the rampant "I can't afford inspection/registration/insurance" drivers.

https://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/register-your-vehicle/temporary-permits

It's a yellow flag since it is unusual that a private seller of a single vehicle is also aware of paper tags. That's usually done through dealerships, just like what you mistakenly think. So they know about it, meaning they were told or they've been doing this for more than this one vehicle listed. Again, this could be a person that just found out, and thinks it's great to prevent dealing with the hassles of the plates when selling, or it could be indication that they are not a private seller. You could ask, get the VIN and run a carfax on it to see about owners/auction stuff. Doesn't mean the vehicle is a bad one, just that dealerships/flippers are going to try to find buyers in as many places as they can.

FYI I am pretty sure that is not the case in Colorado RE being able to just print out a temp tag. I believe it is limited to dealerships and the DMV.






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Re: temp tags on craigslist cars
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2020, 11:12:41 AM »
You know how when you test drive a car at a dealer, they attached a metal license plate with magnets? That's not what I'm talking about.

When you buy a car at a dealer, they print a temporary, paper license plate. That's what I'm talking about. As far as I know, the only way to get one of these is to buy a car at a dealer. So when I see one of these on craigslist, it looks like somebody just bough a car - from a dealer - in the last month or two, and is now trying to get rid of it. The only reason I can think of why someone would do that is it's a really crappy car, or there is something underhanded going on.

Here's an example: https://images.craigslist.org/00Y0Y_5VShpb18QQM_1200x900.jpg


Yup, that is exactly what I mean. It is a HUGE thing in my state. There are so many cars in the area with paper/temp tags and they are actually really easy to get online and print out.

Anyone can do this - you are actually wrong about only a dealership can get them. Anyone - from a private seller that is legit selling a vehicle they've owned the past 10 years, dealership, scammers trying to "paper" a car so they can avoid getting it registered for whatever reason, etc...  in my state they have a website to go fill in the information and purchase online, print out right then, slap on the car. You (or illegally someone you pay to cover the paper trail) can fill out anything on the details like vehicle make/model, vin, year). If they get caught, they likely lose the car itself for falsifying government paperwork, but it's a risk many are willing to take in my state due to the rampant "I can't afford inspection/registration/insurance" drivers.

https://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/register-your-vehicle/temporary-permits

It's a yellow flag since it is unusual that a private seller of a single vehicle is also aware of paper tags. That's usually done through dealerships, just like what you mistakenly think. So they know about it, meaning they were told or they've been doing this for more than this one vehicle listed. Again, this could be a person that just found out, and thinks it's great to prevent dealing with the hassles of the plates when selling, or it could be indication that they are not a private seller. You could ask, get the VIN and run a carfax on it to see about owners/auction stuff. Doesn't mean the vehicle is a bad one, just that dealerships/flippers are going to try to find buyers in as many places as they can.

FYI I am pretty sure that is not the case in Colorado RE being able to just print out a temp tag. I believe it is limited to dealerships and the DMV.






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That's great! But other states aren't as stringent. Which means people will be jerks and take advantage.

And it does appear that a private seller can get temp tags, but they have to go to the DVM and pay the sales tags and a few other small fees. Much less chance of fraud, but still possible for a legitimate private seller to obtain.


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Re: temp tags on craigslist cars
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2020, 11:13:42 AM »
I just did a quick search and it looks like Denver county will give temp tags for private transactions. But it looks like most other counties don't. I looked at my county website and they don't address the issue at all. So I'm guessing, in my county at least, temp tags are only from dealers.